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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    So much talk here from the brave anonymous ones. No attempts have been made. Just a lot of talk.
    I like where this is going. Hey FC- wanna start a "Drop Bounty"? First person to hit that and post up pictures or video of it happening gets a pair of socks or something?

    From then on, we'll all know that people in MTBR socks aren't cowards, they are pro level riders hitting pro level drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdamschen View Post
    I like where this is going. Hey FC- wanna start a "Drop Bounty"? First person to hit that and post up pictures or video of it happening gets a pair of socks or something?

    From then on, we'll all know that people in MTBR socks aren't cowards, they are pro level riders hitting pro level drops.
    Yeah, the prize is they get to spend a day with pvd and put that in their portfolio. Oh wait.
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    I notice several issues. The bike looks like a steep head angle hardtail. Not the ideal tool for the job. The rider roles in too slow. Hits a knob on the rock which he is not compensating for with a manual. It throws the front down and the rest is history.

    A bit more speed is required, then use the knob to pop the front. Yourl need good manual technique to manual over knob and complete the drop without nose dive.

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    Fun fact:

    When you search "peter verdone asshole," one of the top results contains this astute gem -

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    Quote Originally Posted by plummet View Post
    I notice several issues. The bike looks like a steep head angle hardtail. Not the ideal tool for the job. The rider roles in too slow. Hits a knob on the rock which he is not compensating for with a manual. It throws the front down and the rest is history.

    A bit more speed is required, then use the knob to pop the front. Yourl need good manual technique to manual over knob and complete the drop without nose dive.
    Never blame the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plummet View Post
    I notice several issues. The bike looks like a steep head angle hardtail. Not the ideal tool for the job. The rider roles in too slow. Hits a knob on the rock which he is not compensating for with a manual. It throws the front down and the rest is history.

    A bit more speed is required, then use the knob to pop the front. Yourl need good manual technique to manual over knob and complete the drop without nose dive.
    Yup, not the ideal tool for the job. A rigid fork bike would have worked too but leaves a lot less room for the unexpected.

    It's a hardtail 29er and when he hit the 2nd knuckle rock/shelf on the drop, the rear did not give at all, just pushed upwards to the rider. With a big tire, it hit the butt, braked and it was over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodypalms View Post
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    Insisted on a 100mm -15 rise stem on a Nomad https://www.peterverdone.com/the-broadsword/
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBoardman View Post
    Never blame the bike.
    Why not? It's a contributing factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Insisted...
    Excellent. Please let me hear more about fit and geometry from someone who knows nothing about either! How on earth do you know what the correct stem on that bike is?
    I usually get the best geometry advice from folks that wouldn't know how to even draw a bike, let alone put one together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    Excellent. Please let me hear more about fit and geometry from someone who knows nothing about either! How on earth do you know what the correct stem on that bike is?
    I usually get the best geometry advice from folks that wouldn't know how to even draw a bike, let alone put one together.
    That's why all those pros getting paid to do pro drops on pro race courses trying to squeeze the most performance possible out of their pro equipment are running that setup- because it's correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    Excellent. Please let me hear more about fit and geometry from someone who knows nothing about either! How on earth do you know what the correct stem on that bike is?
    I usually get the best geometry advice from folks that wouldn't know how to even draw a bike, let alone put one together.
    Again, it doesn't matter, you are being mocked for your shitty online persona, they are jokes and they are being made at your expense. You are ultimately just a troll and you and your opinions are made of the same vapor as everyone else. You just think your shit smells like roses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdamschen View Post
    I like where this is going. Hey FC- wanna start a "Drop Bounty"? First person to hit that and post up pictures or video of it happening gets a pair of socks or something?

    From then on, we'll all know that people in MTBR socks aren't cowards, they are pro level riders hitting pro level drops.
    Something like this?
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    God dammit. I couldn't resist. Where's the popcorn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdamschen View Post
    That's why all those pros getting paid to do pro drops on pro race courses trying to squeeze the most performance possible out of their pro equipment are running that setup- because it's correct.
    Most of those so-called "pros" can't even draw a bike, much less carve one out of marble.
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    Looks like he under rotated his front flip attempt with a stem too short <100

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbrdan View Post
    Again, it doesn't matter, you are being mocked for your shitty online persona, they are jokes and they are being made at your expense. You are ultimately just a troll and you and your opinions are made of the same vapor as everyone else. You just think your shit smells like roses.
    I'm more interested in where he finds his helmets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob-o View Post
    Looks like he under rotated his front flip attempt with a stem too short <100
    omg, some gems here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    What exactly went wrong? What could he have done better?


    Is this a trick question?
    All my drops higher than a gutter end this way, l thought thats just how its done (maybe lm not so "probro" as l thought????)
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    In the name of all that is merciful and good, can we please kill, or somehow put this thread out of it's misery before it goes anymore sideways, and becomes an "enduroey" parody of this?

    https://youtu.be/NHCP9R_LjMI
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    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    In the name of all that is merciful and good, can we please kill, or somehow put this thread out of it's misery before it goes anymore sideways, and becomes an "enduroey" parody of this?

    https://youtu.be/NHCP9R_LjMI
    I just watched a 15 second Citibank commercial and some figure skating? You sent this thread waaaaay sideways, breh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH40 View Post
    I just watched a 15 second Citibank commercial and some figure skating? You sent this thread waaaaay sideways, breh.
    Is there a guide I can refer to for the current incarnation of Bro and how it's used? Of the short versions I've got bro, brah, bruh, and now breh. Then there's broski, broseph, broseiden,....I'm just lost
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmg71 View Post
    Is this a trick question?
    All my drops higher than a gutter end this way, l thought thats just how its done (maybe lm not so "probro" as l thought????)
    Gutter like a roof gutter or a curb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    In the name of all that is merciful and good, can we please kill, or somehow put this thread out of it's misery before it goes anymore sideways, and becomes an "enduroey" parody of this?

    https://youtu.be/NHCP9R_LjMI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzaro View Post
    Is there a guide I can refer to for the current incarnation of Bro and how it's used? Of the short versions I've got bro, brah, bruh, and now breh. Then there's broski, broseph, broseiden,....I'm just lost
    It's brodisatva now.

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    I'm going to do that drop

    Shooting for this weekend. I'll post it if I don't do the same thing dude did.

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    Yes, the guide is at Google brougham.

    Origins:

    Bro - brother
    Bruh - bruddah
    Breh - bretheren
    Brah - lameass Marina kooks.

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    Don't forget broham!

    -Where pvd go??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMFT View Post
    Don't forget broham!

    -Where pvd go??
    bro-heim - Giants?
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    Brociferous - chief of the endurobro crew, calls the shots and always rides shotgun on Dville shuttles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob-o View Post
    Brociferous - chief of the endurobro crew, calls the shots and always rides shotgun on Dville shuttles.
    I resemble that remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    Excellent. Please let me hear more about fit and geometry from someone who knows nothing about either! How on earth do you know what the correct stem on that bike is?
    I usually get the best geometry advice from folks that wouldn't know how to even draw a bike, let alone put one together.
    by this rationale, we should all be drawing shoes to make sure they're the right "fit"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbrdan View Post
    I resemble that remark.
    Definitely a compliment

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    This thread has devolved into some serious localism? "Bro", "Kook"? Is this the Late-80's Early 90's or what? 2 pages of pure comedy.

    "Dat drop sure looks good 'eh Vince? Plenty of wannabe huckers eh"
    "When da rock drop is here don't be there."


    "Brosiphu." This thread reads like a wannabe surf movie.

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    You one crazy Haolie kook, eh brah?

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    Smile This thread needs bears

    This is a pro level bear.
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    I guess that all of the talk about folks going to do this drop was just that, talk. Completely predictable.

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    We're just waiting for your sick edit to get the ball rolling. But if you want to go low pro-file until your sponsors give you the green light, we understand.







    "You one crazy Haolie kook, eh brah?"
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    Turns out none of us watched the video carefully enough - but at least this should put a stop to this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyno View Post

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    It's hard to tell, it that Bob in the blue shirt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    I guess that all of the talk about folks going to do this drop was just that, talk. Completely predictable.
    Sorry man, been sick with the strep thats going around. I know you've been eagerly awaiting my video so you can figure out how to do the drop and add it to your portfolio, but you'll just have to wait a little longer. I'm sure literally any other relatively skilled biker in marin can show you. While you wait, why don't you keep practicing rolling off the curb in front of your house, you'll conquer it one of these days!

    By the way, that article posted earlier was a great read. "After a few colorful Facebook threads, I was contacted by Quoc Phan of Tam Bikes in Mill Valley to take a very well specíd Nomad out for a week of riding. He was looking for the kind of input nobody but PVD could give."
    that last bit cracks me up every time. Everyone has curbs in front of their house buddy, fewer people talk about themselves in the third person!

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    Drops are so 1999.... it's all about flow trails, berms, and roosting loam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfmtber View Post
    Drops are so 1999....
    Mostly because of this thread:

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    I guess that all of the talk about folks going to do this drop was just that, talk. Completely predictable.

    Who else said the were going to roll off that little outcropping besides myself and sosburn? I rode in SC last weekend. I'll get to it when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosburn View Post
    Everyone has curbs in front of their house buddy, fewer people talk about themselves in the third person!
    Well....except for pvd and....Jimmy!


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    only 2 pages... damn... this had a chance to be epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    it's obvious... he didn't draw the bike before riding it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    He was caught on film....... poor bastard
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    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    He was caught on film....... poor bastard
    Exactly.


    Bikestable sometimes has some fun stuff - they are also on FB Lite for those without the full zuckerBorg hookup:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfmtber View Post
    it's obvious... he didn't draw the bike before riding it...
    Ha ha...pro level cowards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtvert View Post
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    Pete doesnít drink...he hasnít for many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    pro level rider on a pro level drop

    C'mon now.

    And it's good to analyze what went wrong here if we can learn something from it. Dental insurance is overrated. I have four coaches/icons looking at this video on my FB and we've learned a lot.
    Nothing to learn here....

    The problem is that the pro-level angels were not able to ascend up to the heavens with mere mortals observing with their unclean eyes. It was their lack of faith that made him falter and ultimately fall from the rocky precipice. We could never begin to understand such supernatural happenings.... It's not like skill or talent was involved....skill can be explained with science. Skill can be practiced. But this...this...this is the second of the MTB Messiah!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Pete doesnít drink...he hasnít for many years.
    I was referring to the would-be pro-level drop masters.

    Besides, the vast majority of riders looking for air aren't going out of their way to ride Tamo!
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    I checked this out on Sunday and the takeoff is actually a fairly narrow, uneven spine that is not easily rolled off. I'd recommend pre-jumping or at least manualing off it. There are quite a few tire tracks in the dead grass leading down to it, so it looks like plenty of 'Pros' do hit it. The run-out is rock-free and fairly forgiving. Now you can eviscerate me for not hitting it because I'm an anonymous coward, but I wasn't ready to turn Pro all by myself (no one to hold my beer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    correct. Many think he braked but his butt stopped the rear tire.
    Iím a bit late to this thread but hereís my take on it.

    He didnít pre-load the suspension before going off. Simply going off with your butt and weight back doesnít always get the job done. Mid air his weight transitioned to the front which made him endo. If he had preloaded a bit and bunny hopped just a little and prior to going off and put his weight back he would have nailed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DH40 View Post
    Now you can eviscerate me for not hitting it because I'm an anonymous coward, but I wasn't ready to turn Pro all by myself (no one to hold my beer).
    It's all good. As we all know- if there wasn't someone there to film you, it didn't happen anyway.

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    It keeps getting better.

    Keyboads 'r 4 crushers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post

    Keyboads 'r 4 crushers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    It keeps getting better.

    Keyboads 'r 4 crushers.
    PVD is in Whistler now so this thread should get spiced up with clip after clip of the man himself riding nothing but the Pro Lines on his hardtail. Let's see it Champ!
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    ^^ Only losers ride hardtails. He rolls full rigid.

    One of the all-time great scenes in cinema.

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    Get them to sign on the line that is dotted.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Analyzed now by the great Jeff Lenosky.

    Not comparing myself to the great Jeff Lenosky but it appears he could have just asked me what went wrong



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    Looks like the little lip a couple feet back from the edge kicked the nose down when his rear wheel hit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.B. Weld View Post
    Not comparing myself to the great Jeff Lenosky but it appears he could have just asked me what went wrong
    Yup, imo the best way to tackle it would be to avoid hitting the last ft or so of the takeoff by prejumping.

    I also think beginners should stay away from drops that don't have a smooth even takeoff until they get it down and gain confidence... adding a lip or uneven surfaces going into the drop increases it's difficulty by quite a bit.

    I paid for the above advise with a Ti plate and screws.

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    Great, now we get to hear from the blowhard again.
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    I liked how everyone was having a lighthearted conversation about something that probably doesn't matter, and then PVD just comes storming in like a rhino on methamphetamines to shit all over the place

    I dont think anyone actually cared all that much, but that turned out hilarious.

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    So far, everyone here is too scared to even attempt this drop. It seem so easy for folks to give advise on something they don't even know how to do. Keyboard heros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    So far, everyone here is too scared to even attempt this drop. It seem so easy for folks to give advise on something they don't even know how to do. Keyboard heros.
    The irony here is quite thick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Pivot View Post
    I liked how everyone was having a lighthearted conversation about something that probably doesn't matter, and then PVD just comes storming in like a rhino on methamphetamines to shit all over the place

    I dont think anyone actually cared all that much, but that turned out hilarious.
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    Speed is often your friend in so many MTB situations.

    I've done the same exact maneuver thinking I could generate enough pedal turns to drop off a picnic table. No brakes applied and my attempt looked the same as the original video. Hard to hold and balance a manual without movement.

    Couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread, but hope whoever it was got a chance to go back and clear it.
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    I can teach anyone how to successfully negotiate that drop. Ride 10 feet to the right and go around the rock!
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    Was the rider in the video the great PVD himself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.B. Weld View Post
    I can teach anyone how to successfully negotiate that drop. Ride 10 feet to the right and go around the rock!
    You ARE awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamis View Post
    Couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread
    Dude you are missing the best part!

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbrdan View Post
    Was the rider in the video the great PVD himself?
    Well, it kinda looks like the bike may be a PVD frame ... if so, that is clearly the problem!

    /thread

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    No it looks like someone who is on a gigantic reach bike. You know someone who itís not 6í3

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    One of the smoothest 30'(-ish) drops of all time. A nearly imperceptible headbob on a drop that big?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Max View Post
    One of the smoothest 30'(-ish) drops of all time. A nearly imperceptible headbob on a drop that big?!
    Opps! That was about the clip of James Doerfling on page one.
    The rider in question is a rad dude, took an unfortunate fall, kindly cut him some slack.
    Pete loves this banter, moths to the flame
    From memory, that rock is at an odd angle with an even odder dual fall-line landing.
    For me, being a keyboard pro (who clearly is not pro enough to figure out how to post a video...) means saying that cliff jump looks like a bad Idea, I'd rather throw some sick whips off a proper jump instead.

    Now with video!
    https://youtu.be/Xelfo0078cg
    Last edited by T.Max; 07-26-2018 at 10:39 AM.

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    Yeah, I'd like to see some of the contributors to this thread try this drop at tamorancho and post a video.

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    I'm late to the party, he he. Could have had something to do with the massive wheelbase and that inverted stem that guy uses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyhiphopper View Post
    I'm late to the party, he he. Could have had something to do with the massive wheelbase and that inverted stem that guy uses!
    I didn't notice the stem, nice spot. Not going to help but but the more I watch that vid the more I think that guy just isn't going fast enough and that's it. Sure, his technique might not be hundred-percent perfect but it's not tragic. He was just too dang slow to clear the thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pig View Post
    Not going to help but but the more I watch that vid the more I think that guy just isn't going fast enough and that's it. Sure, his technique might not be hundred-percent perfect but it's not tragic. He was just too dang slow to clear the thing.

    Well I guess Lenosky got it all wrong then.
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    All this talk and no one's thought to check Huckin' Kitty's portfolio?

    How to: Drop gone wrong-dropgonehk-copy.jpg

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    How to: Drop gone wrong-pee-vd-stem.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wacha Wacha Wacha View Post
    I read this whole thread and burst out laughing at dinner in public.

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    How to: Drop gone wrong-pee-vd.jpg

    I'd have a hard time manualing this rig too, and I'm taller than 5'8".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5k bike 50cent legs View Post
    There are dire consequences in my household for reading the MTBR forum under the table at dinner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post

    ^I found this video very helpful, the way he explains it really makes it click. I may not be able to do it but at least I finally get it (I think) I'm going outside now to practice some gnarly 6" drops

    Thanks Jeff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd View Post
    You will never even try it. We still haven't seen anyone step up to it. That and my summation makes it pretty clear to me what kind of drop it is.
    Hi Peter,
    My name is griz...will you show me how you do this drop...and where it Is???

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Hi Peter,
    My name is griz...will you show me how you do this drop...and where it Is???
    Otis Campbell is the only person who knows where that drop is, and he's not telling.....


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