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    Downieville Shuttle rumoured this weekend?

    I heard that possible shuttles starting in Downieville this weekend?

    I know shuttles started in Georgetown this weekend....

    Anyone confirm Dville shuttles?

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    Woah -- I guess I'll be planning a Georgetown trip soon!
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    Yuba says no.

    Info direct from the Yuba FB page, posted 3 days ago:
    "Yes people are visiting. Our Quincy shop is open Friday through Monday from 9am to 4pm. Downieville shop is still closed. If you choose to come to visit, please be sure to wear a mask, wash your hands, keep your social distance and ride only in small groups. We are not out of the COVID woods yet, so please be courteous, thoughtful and most of all respect each other. Thank you!"

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    "Currently, there are no shuttles being offered, and we are not sure if we will be running shuttles at all this year. We will definitely keep you informed if we do. We will sadly and kindly refuse all requests for shuttles. At this time, we do not want to put our beloved employees or customers at risk riding shoulder-to-shoulder in a confined tin can for 45 minutes. We'll keep you posted if that changes. Thanks!"

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    Long tow rope behind van with attachments at 6ft increments? I'd pay for that before I'll get into the van!

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    Yuba and Downieville Outfitters may have different approaches this summer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ananth View Post
    Long tow rope behind van with attachments at 6ft increments? I'd pay for that before I'll get into the van!
    LOL. Amazed that some folks are still this scared of this thing. Recommend you stop listening to CNN and look at the facts for yourself.

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    DV Outfitters told me they are ready the first day the County gives them the OK. I like Yuba as well and use them every year but their approach to this is over the top. I'm with Endurobro45. I can't believe otherwise healthy riders are afraid of Covid to begin with. Whatever, more room for me.
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    I am a Yuba loyalist ( logo tattooed on my left leg ) , my guess is Outfitters will pull the trigger first and Yuba may (?) follow. Just got back from a weekend of shuttles in Ashland, everyone wore masks with no drama. Ate out in restaurants like grown ups and everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endubro45 View Post
    LOL. Amazed that some folks are still this scared of this thing. Recommend you stop listening to CNN and look at the facts for yourself.
    So far in June 476 deaths in California, no need to be scared but it's not over, not close. What I would recommend for the shuttle companies is buying KN95's for every passenger, just tack on a fee, they are available in quantity from online stores. If someone won't wear one then kick them off.
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    I suspect there is more than a is it legal aspect----these companies need to feel enough folks show to make money with paying folks---vans--insurance etc.----they seem to barely make it in normal years----certainly not a cash machine--note they are already trying to sell their demo bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k2rider1964 View Post
    I can't believe otherwise healthy riders are afraid of Covid to begin with. Whatever, more room for me.
    I know several 'otherwise healthy' people who have gotten Covid.

    It can be harmless. It might kill you (pretty low chance if you're young/healthy.)

    But a real common thing is to mess you up for months--among other things, many people have their heart and lungs stop working right. If it's like past similar viruses, many will recover after months, some will never be able to do hard cardiovascular things again. We don't yet know.

    Sitting in a van for 45 minutes sounds like a great way to get it from fellow passengers. Sitting in an open pickup or something, probably pretty low risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmtb View Post
    I know several 'otherwise healthy' people who have gotten Covid.

    It can be harmless. It might kill you (pretty low chance if you're young/healthy.)

    But a real common thing is to mess you up for months--among other things, many people have their heart and lungs stop working right. If it's like past similar viruses, many will recover after months, some will never be able to do hard cardiovascular things again. We don't yet know.

    Sitting in a van for 45 minutes sounds like a great way to get it from fellow passengers. Sitting in an open pickup or something, probably pretty low risk.

    There will be no convincing certain people this isn't the 2nd coming of the plauge. If you're under 30, the flu has a higher death rate. Above 50 it's worse. I'm sure you didn't know that the average death of covid, is higher than the average life span. Facts like these miraculously fail to persuade or offer perspective in this partisan point in time. Lastly, regarding your messed up for months comment, sure, if you get put in the ICU and on a vent. But unlike people preaching this, I was aware ventilators caused irreparable damage. But nothing like a pandemic to sell some fear porn for clicks.

    I have asthma, and I'll be on the first shuttle lapping up that loam.

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    good to see so many vocal medical experts on these forums-------personally am riding Downieville as a self-shuttle with 2 cars-which is what folks are currently doing.

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    This isn't about death, that's why I said a tiny chance of that.

    This isn't about ventilators. Those will mess you up in all sorts of ways, and hospitals have mostly stopped using them. So an even smaller chance there.

    This is about long term cardiovascular and other issues from 'mild' cases.

    It does, for some people, act like this:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-paul-garner?

    While the person highlighted in the article is older, the people I know dealing with this are in their 30s and 40s. They have it milder than that, but same pattern. So after 2-3 months they're like "I had enough energy to go for a short bike ride today!".

    P.S. There appears to be limited correlation with asthma. But there is strong evidence that being in close contact with breathing with other people is how it's spread. While being outside and spaced apart a bit is probably not how it is spread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k2rider1964 View Post
    DV Outfitters told me they are ready the first day the County gives them the OK. I like Yuba as well and use them every year but their approach to this is over the top. I'm with Endurobro45. I can't believe otherwise healthy riders are afraid of Covid to begin with. Whatever, more room for me.
    FWIW - Sounds like Yuba is worried about their local community, which I can't hate. The world could use more people like this.

    Sierra County is among the only counties in California with currently zero reported cases of COVID-19. With about 3,000 residents, the aging population has limited medical resources and is highly vulnerable to a viral outbreak. SBTS and its bike shop Yuba Expeditions invest immeasurable love into Downieville, and we don't want our operations or guests to be responsible for potentially introducing the virus. In addition to canceling the 2020 Downieville Classic, Yuba Expeditions in Downieville will be closed until further notice. At this time, we urge you to please not visit Downieville or other Lost Sierra mountain communities until government officials say it is safe to do so.
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    On the bright side and regardless of one's opinion, at least we can still get on our bikes and pedal.

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    Has anyone actually been up to the Saddle and know the snow situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridinHigh View Post
    just ride your bike to the top. duh
    C’mon dude, they’re afraid they might gain some fitness. Go easy on the lazy mofos.
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    The road to Packer Saddle usually gets plowed by memorial weekend in order to let the shuttles start running. It has not been plowed yet this year. So there's that.

    Then there's the community angle. There are signs all the way from Sierraville through Graeagle saying "Welcome visitors, please respect our community and our social distance." This matters. In Downieville and Sierra County the average age of the resident population is up in the risk group. Eastern Plumas med center probably doesn't have much in the way of ventilators, and any real care is going to be hours away in either Reno or Sac. The businesses want to open, as any business would. The local residents, on the other hand, are not super stoked about the masses of young, potentially asymptomatic people coming through, especially when a given percentage of those young, potentially asymptomatic visitors get all pissy when asked to wear masks and to be mindful of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtotheF View Post
    The road to Packer Saddle usually gets plowed by memorial weekend in order to let the shuttles start running. It has not been plowed yet this year. So there's that.

    Then there's the community angle. There are signs all the way from Sierraville through Graeagle saying "Welcome visitors, please respect our community and our social distance." This matters. In Downieville and Sierra County the average age of the resident population is up in the risk group. Eastern Plumas med center probably doesn't have much in the way of ventilators, and any real care is going to be hours away in either Reno or Sac. The businesses want to open, as any business would. The local residents, on the other hand, are not super stoked about the masses of young, potentially asymptomatic people coming through, especially when a given percentage of those young, potentially asymptomatic visitors get all pissy when asked to wear masks and to be mindful of others.
    In Downieville the sign says 'Please respect our community and social distance somewhere else"

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    This is the perfect year to rent an ebike. Socially distancing a crowd in a small town like Downieville seems impossible though.
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    Not sure if this is going to be relevant going forward as things change, but in checking for Mt Hough shuttle from Yuba Expeditions, this was on the reservations page, not looking to good at this point.

    "Due to the Coronavirus, we are not running shuttles this year, for the safety of our customers, our staff, our staff's families and for the safety of the small mountain towns we love so much."

    In checking with Downieville Outfitters website, they say they are booking reservations now! Maybe worth giving them a call.

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    I see... so it's self-shuttle optimized.

    I have a test ebike that can climb 10,000 feet on Eco/Trail. Should give that a try up there.

    Is Sunrise clear of snow yet??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbrdan View Post
    I am a Yuba loyalist ( logo tattooed on my left leg ) , my guess is Outfitters will pull the trigger first and Yuba may (?) follow. Just got back from a weekend of shuttles in Ashland, everyone wore masks with no drama. Ate out in restaurants like grown ups and everything.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mtbrdan again.

    Nice!! I was just on Ashland Mountain Adventures shuttle page checking things out for a trip in July. I won't get up to DV until September...unless I can somehow swing back thru on the way home from our Whistler (or OR/WA road trip)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motosc View Post
    In Downieville the sign says 'Please respect our community and social distance somewhere else"
    If that's true, their city council or whatever authority they have up there will issue a local order advising businesses they can't open up and will tell their AirBnB owners they can't book rentals. I received an email from the AirBnB owner we use today and she said she was advised they can start booking for June 12th and beyond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalTaz View Post
    Not sure if this is going to be relevant going forward as things change, but in checking for Mt Hough shuttle from Yuba Expeditions, this was on the reservations page, not looking to good at this point.

    "Due to the Coronavirus, we are not running shuttles this year, for the safety of our customers, our staff, our staff's families and for the safety of the small mountain towns we love so much."

    In checking with Downieville Outfitters website, they say they are booking reservations now! Maybe worth giving them a call.
    You can always self shuttle Hough..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    C’mon dude, they’re afraid they might gain some fitness. Go easy on the lazy mofos.
    Nailed it.

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    I usually ride up. Take 49 to 93 which is a dirt road but well maintained. Vehicles use it. The climb is not steep but yeah, it's long! It's about a total of 4200 feet climb and tho I forgot the miles I'd guess around 15 total. It's a bit less than 3 hours to the Saddle riding at a pace that I'd describe as comfortable. You can do it faster if you wanna crank.

    Makes the ride down even better for me. And when you get to the bottom, oh that beer tastes soooo good especially if it's 100 degrees out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    I see... so it's self-shuttle optimized.

    I have a test ebike that can climb 10,000 feet on Eco/Trail. Should give that a try up there.

    Is Sunrise clear of snow yet??

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    The North facing bit of Sunrise tucked in below Packer Saddle still has a fair bit of snow, but the flow trail is more or less clear, save for a few rideable drifts.

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    Was just in Downieville last week and ran into the guy from Outfitters, said they're hoping to start shuttling in the next couple weeks. Rode it as an out and back per his suggestion, but the thought of getting a couple laps in definitely makes me salivate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motosc View Post
    The North facing bit of Sunrise tucked in below Packer Saddle still has a fair bit of snow, but the flow trail is more or less clear, save for a few rideable drifts.
    Very, very good to hear. That flowy left side is so cool. Usually do 2 or 3 there before descending all the way down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    This is the perfect year to rent an ebike. Socially distancing a crowd in a small town like Downieville seems impossible though.
    What? It's super easy. There's nothing to do in Dvillie except ride. Just rent a house, ride, and stay home after you ride. Bring your own food. Are you itching to hit up the club/bar scene in Downieville or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    What? It's super easy. There's nothing to do in Dvillie except ride. Just rent a house, ride, and stay home after you ride. Bring your own food. Are you itching to hit up the club/bar scene in Downieville or something?
    100%. There are literally no places to congregate at in Downieville. When I am there mid-week some days I don't see another person when walking through town to go swimming, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmtb View Post
    I know several 'otherwise healthy' people who have gotten Covid.

    It can be harmless. It might kill you (pretty low chance if you're young/healthy.)

    But a real common thing is to mess you up for months--among other things, many people have their heart and lungs stop working right. If it's like past similar viruses, many will recover after months, some will never be able to do hard cardiovascular things again. We don't yet know.

    Sitting in a van for 45 minutes sounds like a great way to get it from fellow passengers. Sitting in an open pickup or something, probably pretty low risk.
    I know a young girl (mid 20’s) who got Covid-19 and was really sick for a time. She’s recovered, but she lost her sense of taste. Weird. So there are possible after effects.

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    Was self shuttling Mt Hough last weekend and stopped by Yuba Outfitters. They confirmed that they are not running planning on running shuttles for the rest of the year. They cited a an report from the UK where Covid spread on a bus and they are playing it safe. There is some extra risk being in a van for 45 mins with a bunch of people so I can't hold it against them if they want to play it safe. They are however renting eBikes and I think doing guided ebike tours.

    Shuttled with Ashland Mountain Adventures the weekend before memorial day. Masks are required and we all wore them but we had a private shuttle so we knew everyone on board. We also made sure to crack all the windows so at least there was some airflow.

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    Patrick with Sierra Buttes Trail Stewardship / Yuba Expeditions here.

    We are not running shuttles this year, we have converted the vans to Trail Crew work vans. The shop will be opened in Downieville and is open in Quincy, however, and we will be renting Santa Cruz Heckler e-bikes as well as other Santa Cruz bikes.

    The eBike thing is significant in that amazing trails that mountain bikers rarely ride in the area are game-on. It's like Downieville has a bunch of new trails - or in reality, new trails to most people.

    Back to the no shuttles...
    We found a study where a bus of 66 passengers traveled with one asymptomatic infected passenger, the trip was 50 minutes each way. 24 of those passengers became infected.
    You can read the details here: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/05/23/your-guide-how/

    This is about more than just us.
    This is about protecting the at-risk residents of Sierra and Plumas Counties of which there are many, notably in Downieville. In addition, Downieville has no medical services. And the town is scared of people from other places bringing the virus.

    Not running shuttles hurts us. And it hurts the town. But there are more important issues at hand. And you can still ride Downieville and Mt. Hough and self-shuttle. If you want to help support us, you can come to the shop and buy a tee shirt or hat or something as simple as a sticker - it all helps.

    We converted the shuttle vans to Trail Crew vans as we pivoted to focusing our efforts on building more trails. You can read about that here: https://sierratrails.org/a-new-trails-renaissance/

    We are communicating the latest via our social, email newsletter and website: Yuba Expeditions Downieville Shuttle and Bike Shop

    I hope this provides the information you are looking for. Feel free to ask any questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endubro45 View Post
    LOL. Amazed that some folks are still this scared of this thing. Recommend you stop listening to CNN and look at the facts for yourself.
    agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.P View Post
    Patrick with Sierra Buttes Trail Stewardship / Yuba Expeditions here.

    We are not running shuttles this year, we have converted the vans to Trail Crew work vans. The shop will be opened in Downieville and is open in Quincy, however, and we will be renting Santa Cruz Heckler e-bikes as well as other Santa Cruz bikes.

    The eBike thing is significant in that amazing trails that mountain bikers rarely ride in the area are game-on. It's like Downieville has a bunch of new trails - or in reality, new trails to most people.

    Back to the no shuttles...
    We found a study where a bus of 66 passengers traveled with one asymptomatic infected passenger, the trip was 50 minutes each way. 24 of those passengers became infected.
    You can read the details here: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/05/23/your-guide-how/

    This is about more than just us.
    This is about protecting the at-risk residents of Sierra and Plumas Counties of which there are many, notably in Downieville. In addition, Downieville has no medical services. And the town is scared of people from other places bringing the virus.

    Not running shuttles hurts us. And it hurts the town. But there are more important issues at hand. And you can still ride Downieville and Mt. Hough and self-shuttle. If you want to help support us, you can come to the shop and buy a tee shirt or hat or something as simple as a sticker - it all helps.

    We converted the shuttle vans to Trail Crew vans as we pivoted to focusing our efforts on building more trails. You can read about that here: https://sierratrails.org/a-new-trails-renaissance/

    We are communicating the latest via our social, email newsletter and website: Yuba Expeditions Downieville Shuttle and Bike Shop

    I hope this provides the information you are looking for. Feel free to ask any questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.P View Post
    Patrick with Sierra Buttes Trail Stewardship / Yuba Expeditions here.

    We are not running shuttles this year, we have converted the vans to Trail Crew work vans. The shop will be opened in Downieville and is open in Quincy, however, and we will be renting Santa Cruz Heckler e-bikes as well as other Santa Cruz bikes.

    The eBike thing is significant in that amazing trails that mountain bikers rarely ride in the area are game-on. It's like Downieville has a bunch of new trails - or in reality, new trails to most people.

    Back to the no shuttles...
    We found a study where a bus of 66 passengers traveled with one asymptomatic infected passenger, the trip was 50 minutes each way. 24 of those passengers became infected.
    You can read the details here: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/05/23/your-guide-how/

    This is about more than just us.
    This is about protecting the at-risk residents of Sierra and Plumas Counties of which there are many, notably in Downieville. In addition, Downieville has no medical services. And the town is scared of people from other places bringing the virus.

    Not running shuttles hurts us. And it hurts the town. But there are more important issues at hand. And you can still ride Downieville and Mt. Hough and self-shuttle. If you want to help support us, you can come to the shop and buy a tee shirt or hat or something as simple as a sticker - it all helps.

    We converted the shuttle vans to Trail Crew vans as we pivoted to focusing our efforts on building more trails. You can read about that here: https://sierratrails.org/a-new-trails-renaissance/

    We are communicating the latest via our social, email newsletter and website: Yuba Expeditions Downieville Shuttle and Bike Shop

    I hope this provides the information you are looking for. Feel free to ask any questions.

    P

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    All the best to you and the team, Patrick. Look forward to stopping by the shop this summer to say hello and grab some swag. Thank you for all that you do for our exceptional community.

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    Looks like self shuttles are the best option

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.P View Post
    Patrick with Sierra Buttes Trail Stewardship / Yuba Expeditions here.

    We are not running shuttles this year, we have converted the vans to Trail Crew work vans. The shop will be opened in Downieville and is open in Quincy, however, and we will be renting Santa Cruz Heckler e-bikes as well as other Santa Cruz bikes.

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    Awesome seeing a company looking out for their community like that. Looking forward to popping into the shop next time I'm up there. I don't think people in riding shape are overly concerned with catching it and having things so south for themselves, the fear is spreading it to someone at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpatrickb View Post
    Awesome seeing a company looking out for their community like that. Looking forward to popping into the shop next time I'm up there. I don't think people in riding shape are overly concerned with catching it and having things so south for themselves, the fear is spreading it to someone at risk.
    Absolutely spot on. To add another layer to this: SBTS and Yuba have worked wonders to convince a sometimes reluctant community of the benefits that MTB brings to the region. That could very quickly erode if coronavirus cases hit the county, with MTB tourism being an all-too-easy target for blame. Protecting trail access is a delicate act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.P View Post
    Patrick with Sierra Buttes Trail Stewardship / Yuba Expeditions here.

    We are not running shuttles this year, we have converted the vans to Trail Crew work vans. The shop will be opened in Downieville and is open in Quincy, however, and we will be renting Santa Cruz Heckler e-bikes as well as other Santa Cruz bikes.

    The eBike thing is significant in that amazing trails that mountain bikers rarely ride in the area are game-on. It's like Downieville has a bunch of new trails - or in reality, new trails to most people.

    Back to the no shuttles...
    We found a study where a bus of 66 passengers traveled with one asymptomatic infected passenger, the trip was 50 minutes each way. 24 of those passengers became infected.
    You can read the details here: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/05/23/your-guide-how/

    This is about more than just us.
    This is about protecting the at-risk residents of Sierra and Plumas Counties of which there are many, notably in Downieville. In addition, Downieville has no medical services. And the town is scared of people from other places bringing the virus.

    Not running shuttles hurts us. And it hurts the town. But there are more important issues at hand. And you can still ride Downieville and Mt. Hough and self-shuttle. If you want to help support us, you can come to the shop and buy a tee shirt or hat or something as simple as a sticker - it all helps.

    We converted the shuttle vans to Trail Crew vans as we pivoted to focusing our efforts on building more trails. You can read about that here: https://sierratrails.org/a-new-trails-renaissance/

    We are communicating the latest via our social, email newsletter and website: Yuba Expeditions Downieville Shuttle and Bike Shop

    I hope this provides the information you are looking for. Feel free to ask any questions.

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    Just got confirmation that Dville Outfitters started shuttling today....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagonger View Post
    Just got confirmation that Dville Outfitters started shuttling today....

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    Awesome. People I am sure will be required to wear masks, but excited to hear that Greg is getting his business going again. Will benefit the other local businesses as well.

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    That sounds like it will be an unpopular decision for the locals. I'll pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callender View Post
    That sounds like it will be an unpopular decision for the locals. I'll pass.
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    Shuttled with Downieville outfitters on Sat and Sun. It was busy in town this weekend. Conditions were prime!

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    Maybe if they put the bikes in the van and the people in an open air trailer with masks that would be a better solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Fil View Post
    Shuttled with Downieville outfitters on Sat and Sun. It was busy in town this weekend. Conditions were prime!
    I am sure that there were some folks in town that welcomed the crowds and business they brought. Thanks for the good news, now to book a trip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5k bike 50cent legs View Post
    Maybe if they put the bikes in the van and the people in an open air trailer with masks that would be a better solution?
    I would want that if I was the shuttle driver

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endubro45 View Post
    Awesome. People I am sure will be required to wear masks, but excited to hear that Greg is getting his business going again. Will benefit the other local businesses as well.
    Um.... Doesn't Greg own Yuba Expeditions and not Downieville Outfitters?

    Ooops... Looks like it's the other Greg. Nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfmtber View Post
    Um.... Doesn't Greg own Yuba Expeditions and not Downieville Outfitters?

    Ooops... Looks like it's the other Greg. Nevermind.
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    Thanks for posting the facts Mr P.

    To those who “aren’t worried about the virus,” it’s just incredible that you still don’t get it. Nobody is worried about your health. Rather, communities that have virtually zero virus (like Sierra County) are rightly concerned you might be carrying it and give it to the driver who then gives it to the bartender who gives it to his grandma who dies along with the rest of her bridge club.

    Gonna be pedaling up the hill this year.

    An ebike is tempting though. One of the best and hardest rides I ever did was an out-and-back to Chimney Rock (via Empire Creek) from the bottom of Third Divide. I will never do that again without electric assistance.

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    For those going keep your valuables locked up, word is Downieville has a few tweakers and they have started stealing bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Fil View Post
    Shuttled with Downieville outfitters on Sat and Sun. It was busy in town this weekend. Conditions were prime!
    Wow! It is starting huh? Thanks for the report.
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    Am hearing they got more rain last night...June conditions are only topped by September, gotta get up there while the getting is good.

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    Heading up Friday...1pm shuttle and staying overnight. Any intel on trail conditions? What should I avoid (snow)? Bringing eBike so should make for some epic laps....recommendations? Might try some of that south(?) facing stuff Saturday.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    ^^^you will need an e-bike old man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Meat View Post
    ^^^you will need an e-bike old man
    E-Indeedio! 85 miles in 2 days...it was glorious. Also first time driving that heinous drive home not feeling absolutely destroyed. It was not hero dirt but fun for (2) days.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    How do eBikers charge their bikes on multi day trips? I'm assuming you have to stay at a motel/hotel instead of camping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUZe View Post
    How do eBikers charge their bikes on multi day trips? I'm assuming you have to stay at a motel/hotel instead of camping?
    I have two 700 batteries (Levo) and an electric generator. But forgot the charging cord so the amazingly cool guys at Outfitters let us charge our batteries overnight using theirs in their shop. We slept in our cars this trip (everything was booked) but ideally a hotel room would have worked best.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Take note--came back today----very hot----was like 92 at the TOP--so take fluids

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    Quote Originally Posted by pctloper View Post
    Take note--came back today----very hot----was like 92 at the TOP--so take fluids
    THIS was a huge life saver for us last weekend. We used it frequently. https://www.rei.com/product/100537/k...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Temps cooling off starting this weekend. It's been consistently in the mid 90s in Graeagle all week. Getting out early and riding has been the key for me. It's usually ~80 by 10:30am.

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    Gunman shooting up three random people on the trails in Downieville?

    SFGate: Bay Area father shot and killed during Sierra trip with son, who spent 30 hours hiding in wilderness.
    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...e-15390090.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUZe View Post
    Gunman shooting up three random people on the trails in Downieville?

    SFGate: Bay Area father shot and killed during Sierra trip with son, who spent 30 hours hiding in wilderness.
    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...e-15390090.php
    Rip..sad

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    Slightly OT....

    Anyone have recs for pedal-only ride starting from the top of Packer Saddle, that also ends at Packer?

    Here's my thinking, let me know if you've got a better pedal-only...

    Sunrise/Sunrise Flow down to
    Butcher down to
    Pauley Creek, Go UP Pauley (I've ridden down...but not up)
    UP Baby Heads
    Up Gold Lake Rim Trail, back to Packer.
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    We'll also get a day of shuttling in, but camping at Packer, and will need some pedal therapy without faffing with shuttles.

    Speaking of, anyone been recently and comment how easy it is to grab last-minute shuttles? Usually, it's easy, but with only DO running...wasn't sure how busy they are. Thanks peeple!

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