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    Formula R1 leaking brake fluid

    I got my R1's yesterday. When I spread the brake pads apart with a plastic shim, brake fluid leaks from the top of the master cylinder on both front and rear brakes (picture of location below).


    The fluid would leak from one of the 4 holes seen above. Has anyone experienced this before? If you have, what was the solution? I called FormulaBrakeUSA and left a message since they're closed today.
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    Yes, mine did and a few others did that. Apparently it happened in the early 2009 batch which has since been fixed. People reportedly sent them to formula and they were fixed. I have yet to do so, but don't anticipate any problems as formula service is top notch.

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    Thank you, Civil. I'll wait for a response from FormulaBrakeUSA.
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    Same as civil. I just got mine back from Formula USA and they were repaired free of charge. They did change the lever from the Mg lever though to Al. Said some of the Mg levers were having problems. Good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-record
    Same as civil. I just got mine back from Formula USA and they were repaired free of charge. They did change the lever from the Mg lever though to Al. Said some of the Mg levers were having problems. Good people.
    how long did it take? I've been waiting until riding season was over......but now I'm just procrastinating

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil
    how long did it take? I've been waiting until riding season was over......but now I'm just procrastinating
    I've had Chris turn things around the same day he received them
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    Mine was quick too. Probably about a week with shipping both ways.

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    +1

    Put my brand new set of R1's on my bike this weekend. After a couple minutes of messing with the lever angle and reach and seeing how they felt I noticed fluid dripping out from behind the rear MC.

    Freaked out and looked it up here and this was the first thread I saw.

    They're headed back to Formula today. So far they've been really easy to work with and have promised a fast turn around.

    Still not happy about this. I have K24's and Puro's and have been very happy with them and now this.

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    Do all of these brakes wind up leaking like this. Also those of you who have gotten your brakes back from Formula....Did the leak completely stop?

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    Formula Brake USA has my brakes now. They seem to be working on a same-day turnaround time. I requested next day shipping to return the brakes to me. Should have them back in my hands tomorrow. Onetrack, I'll be able to report on your second question by then.
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    what exactly is causing the leaking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david8613
    what exactly is causing the leaking?
    Seems like defective caps. They had to be replaced on mine. Charlie from Formula Brake USA received mine today, squared them away and sent them off. I should have them tomorrow.
    -Greg
    Lynskey Ridgeline 29-SL, Truvativ Hammerschmidt, Cannondale Lefty 29er SL w/ DLR (Project321 adaptor). 26 lbs.

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    Charlie from Formula Brake USA came through! I got the brakes back today and re-installed them. Charlie included a Formula t-shirt. Here's the new cap:
    -Greg
    Lynskey Ridgeline 29-SL, Truvativ Hammerschmidt, Cannondale Lefty 29er SL w/ DLR (Project321 adaptor). 26 lbs.

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    How can you tell if your lever is alloy or magnesium? Mine seem to be painted so i guess they are magnesium rather than alloy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Draper
    How can you tell if your lever is alloy or magnesium? Mine seem to be painted so i guess they are magnesium rather than alloy?
    Torch!!??

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    Has everyones leking R1's been resolved. I would love feedback from anyone that had the problem

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    Mine have been fine though I haven't ridden much yet.

    Side note: I just got my The Ones trimmed down for my 29er and they look really good so far.

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    Charlie at Formula took care of me as well. Turnaround was quick. Brakes are mounted up and so far no issues. Since I live in Minnesota I've got a little time yet but the way I noticed the leaking in the first place was by mounting them in the garage and squeezing the levers...

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    Just went for a ride and had both brakes (R-1) leak fluid onto the bars. Unfortunately the bars are Truvative Noir riser bars and the carbon fiber is already blistered. Brakes and bars, I'm not pleased. Did I miss a recall ?
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    No recall issued. Problem has been occuring with my (and other users) R1 too. New R1's are supposedly better (redesigned membrane).
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    Charlie at Formula fixed mine too, but they started leaking again after a while.

    Between that and the incessant pad rubbing issues, I decided to give up on mine. They've been seating on a shelf for months.
    Last edited by sfer1; 09-11-2014 at 11:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-record View Post
    Same as civil. I just got mine back from Formula USA and they were repaired free of charge. They did change the lever from the Mg lever though to Al. Said some of the Mg levers were having problems. Good people.
    Wtf difference does a mg to

    al lever do ? , I think it is a new o ring seal that solves the problem

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    can anyone share contacts?

    sent request from formuls site - no answer

    i am even ready to buy spare parts - but cant find out where

    can anybode ahsre contacts ?

    thanks

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    Formula North America Inc.

    414 Hwy 21 Bypass Fort Mill, SC 29715

    Phone: +1 (803) 547 7010

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    I've had :

    - K24's
    - Oro Puro's
    - The One
    - R1

    all of them had this leaking issue except the Puro's. It was always going to be fixed in the next batch. What I don't understand is that the same problem that is already present since the K24's is still present in the newer brake models.

    The issue with the brake pads rubbing the discs due to lack of space, the discs rubbing the inside of the caliper (especially when one piston is sticky, and the other one tends to tilt the disc a little) is now solved with a new 2013 feature called 'enhanced calliper design' (read : more space between pads and disc and a wider slot in the caliper where the disc fits in). A new flashy term for design flaws? Come on. I already pointed these issues out 4 years ago (since Formula The Ones). Formula makes great brakes when they work, but it seems they don't learn from their mistakes.

    I moved to Magura MT6'es, couldn't be happier. The 2013 version of the MT6'es is even better than the 2012, with a firmer bite point.

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    Hey there,

    Have you tried our Ukraine distributor for Formula ?

    Company Drive Ltd.
    Office 14, 58A Goloseevsky Ave, 03039, Kiev, Ukraine
    Phone: +380 44 257 14 99 / +380 44 257 16 99
    drivesport.com.ua

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    Anyone having this issue with 2012 R1s?

    When Iīm reseting the pistons on my 2012 R1s, there is a leak at the back of the MC and after pistons are reset, brakes need to be bled in order to make them work properly again.
    Brakes have been ridden for less than 1500 km (still with original pads) without any steep of long descents and I feel like they have just broken in...

    That rear MC cap looks differently than those pictured above (even differently than those replaced after warranty claims) so thatīs probably just some random flaw. Hope it will be fixed under warranty.
    Last edited by Tomas91; 05-07-2013 at 03:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORMULA Canada View Post
    Hey there,

    Have you tried our Ukraine distributor for Formula ?

    Company Drive Ltd.
    Office 14, 58A Goloseevsky Ave, 03039, Kiev, Ukraine
    Phone: +380 44 257 14 99 / +380 44 257 16 99
    drivesport.com.ua
    these guys have nothing to do with service and repair unfortunately. they just have big load of Formula brakes they cannot sell because of overpricing. and no replacement parts available yet.

    Formula in Europe have worst customer service ever. I have recommended all my friends, coallegues and customers to not buy brakes from Formula, any model, any year, new or used. price is very high like a premium product but when they broke, owner will get no service or support.

    anyone can read more details here about my own case with R1 leaking levers. the same case happened with my friend about 3 months before. and year ago the same. I did not trusted before faced by myself. top prices, no service. this is how Formula works here, took money and disappeared.

    I did not asked for full replacement of brakes or levers but only for these small rubber membranes with caps to stop leaks. I am bike tech myself and have tools & experience to do replacement. direct calls and emails forwarded me to local office (Drivesport). local office first tried to resolve issue but found that italian office isn't responding, then told me to gtfo.

    ps. for people who are using Formula brakes already I would recommend to install them at aluminium handlebars only. when Formula starts to leak (it will happen sooner or later) then your carbon handlebar coverage will be destroyed by brake fluid. also drops of fluid may screw up your frame coverage and equipment.

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    after a single email they sent 2 weeks ago with promise to clear situation with locals, customer support disappeared again. no answer from local retailer as well. so I tell you guys, stay away from Formula products. no customers service. no responsibility. no replacement or repair by warranty.

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    I've got a pair of 2012 T1's and a pair of 2013 T1s's (latter came as standard on Spesh Camber). The piston seals on the rear caliper of the T1's leaked from new, and then the front caliper joined in! I returned these to Formula's UK distributor, who fixed them under warranty. Now the master cylinder on the T1s's are leaking, which I found out when I took them off my nice carbon bars - as someone else has mentioned, the fluid will melt the clearcoat on carbon bars, so I'd agreed - avoid using formula brakes on carbon bars! I also noticed dampness behind the R1 levers on a bike that I was cleaning up to sell; at the time I thought this was just maybe water from cleaning, but it did smell a bit brake fluidy. From what others have experienced, there's got to be a design fault with the master cylinder/reservoir cap(?)

    p.s. have just posted the T1s's back to the UK distributor, so will see what they come back like.

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