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    Avid Juicys...

    Thinking about a set...does anyone actually have them? What are your feelings? Positives, negatives?

    Thanks, later
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    tscheezy has them...

    Quote Originally Posted by ManbIKE
    Thinking about a set...does anyone actually have them? What are your feelings? Positives, negatives?

    Thanks, later
    tscheezy has them, here's one of his posts:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...=9214#poststop

    And another:
    http://forums13.consumerreview.com/c...8Hd.4@.efe548c

    And another:
    http://forums13.consumerreview.com/c...8Hd.9@.efdd23b

    And another:
    http://forums13.consumerreview.com/c...Hd.12@.efdbb7c
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    Thumbs up from me

    I have the Juicy 7's on a new Blur. Have no other experience with discs so coming from ten year old XT canti's I was pretty well blown away by the peformance of the J7's (power, modulation, caliper alignment system - all excellent). I did read some informative posts from Tscheezy in the old brake time board reviewing the details of the J7's. As I recall, he quite liked them but did have problems with a vibration (stuccato, I think he called it) due to the wavy rotors. Tscheezy's word is gospel as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you can coax an update out of him.
    **Edited - Just saw Andy's post snuck in above me here. Follow the links. (Thanks Andy)

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    They're pretty nice. We've had a few sets come into the shop with Santa Cruz build kits.
    The Factory bleeding is pretty consistant and the rotors have been only decent....they've needed a little truing if ya know what I mean . I haven't been on the trail with them yet but will soon...

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    Second opinon on Juicy's

    Although Tchessy is by far the expert on the Juicy's, I'll give a second opinion.

    I just put a set of Avids on a couple of weeks ago. Although I can not speak about long term results, I do have one ride on them in very muddy conditions. I switched from XTR V-Brakes to the Juicy's and can say the Avids are great.

    They were very easy to set up. I took me less than an hour and I have never set up disc brakes before. They are also very easy to bleed...I would recomend getting a bleed kit when if you get the breaks.

    My initial riding impressions is that they are very smooth and modulate very well. IMO they also handle mud well exceptionally well. My first ride was a mix of heavy mud and loose rocks. The Avids were about the only component on my bike that did not malfunction. They handled downhill sections well and I could tell a major improvement over my old XTR's V's. They ran make a little noise when they get wet, but that stops after a minute or two.

    I did have to true one rotor out of the box, but thats not very unusual from what I've heard.

    The only complaint I have, which has been mentioned on this board, is that there is not much clearance between the front caliper and the front spokes. I was lucky in that there was no rubbing, but the clearance is around 2mm. I've heard putting washers on the rotor to move it out slightly fixes any rubbing, but its definatly a slight weakness.

    Other than that I have not complaints. My initial impression is they are the best brakes I've ridden. I would recomend them!

    Consider Larry Mettler (ventanarama) if you are looking to buy a pair. He has killer prices and superior service.

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    Looks like you guys have it covered. Great brakes now that I took a file to the rotors and knocked the edges off which were causing the strange pad-grab.

    <img border=3 src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/Jbars.jpg">

    <img border=3 src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/JTightFront.jpg">

    <img border=3 src="https://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/JCaliperTight.jpg">

    tscheezy

    PS "Gospel"? I'm just a dork with brakes.
    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    SCHWEET RIG CHEESY!!!!!
    How's the SRAM triggers?

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    Uhhhhhhh.............I meant Cheezy.

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    AVID J7 Hope mini or Magura Marta SL??

    Quote Originally Posted by ManbIKE
    Thinking about a set...does anyone actually have them? What are your feelings? Positives, negatives?

    Thanks, later
    I haven't heard many bad things about any of the following brakes

    Avid Juicy-are these brakes an open or closed system?

    Hope Mini Mono

    Magura Marta SL

    they all seem to be relatively comparable in weight and price.
    does any have a distinct advantage/disavantage over the other?

    what about the avid mechanicals it seems to be a better choice in terms of weight and price, what about performance vs. a hydro?

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    They are all open. It is hard to find a closed system for bikes (Hope Gusav?). All are good brakes. The Juicys have the most adjustments. The Avid mechs are by far the heaviest, but are cheap and good brakes. As powerful as hydros, very tunable. Lacks the "hydro feel" if you care.

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    what exactly do you mean by truing?

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    Truing is what you do to a rotor which has a side-to-side wobble in it to straighten it out, just like a bike wheel. Read the FAQ at the top of the Brakes page to learn about truing a rotor.

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    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaco
    what exactly do you mean by truing?
    Nothing to worry about. Truing rotors is something you'll have to do with any disc brake. Go read this, http://www.mtbr.com/techtalks/brakes/brakesfaq.shtml, particularly the section entitled "What can I do with warped rotors?" for tips on truing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    They are all open. It is hard to find a closed system for bikes (Hope Gusav?). All are good brakes. The Juicys have the most adjustments. The Avid mechs are by far the heaviest, but are cheap and good brakes. As powerful as hydros, very tunable. Lacks the "hydro feel" if you care.

    tscheezy
    Hope Gusav? I think you're referring to the Magura Gustav which actually is an open disc brake system as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    They are all open. It is hard to find a closed system for bikes (Hope Gusav?).
    Hope C2 Pros are a closed-system brake that uses a dial adjuster on the master-cylinder to adjust the pistons/pads. I had a set several years ago and they were a very nice brake. But, having used open-system brakes for the last couple of years (Hope Mini, Formula B4, B4 SLs and Shimano XTR/XT), I'd say these are better brakes and I have never experienced pump-up problems.
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    thanks for the info

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