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    Advocate Cycles "Seldom Seen"

    Anyone know when this is coming out?It's not on their website yet and I'm very interested in the specs.Advocate Cycles "Seldom Seen"-20160801_212816.jpg
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    I've heard this fall, but not a specific date yet.
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    Thank you, I'll look for some patience.

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    Is there any info out there on this? Curious, but this is the first I have heard of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garcia View Post
    Is there any info out there on this? Curious, but this is the first I have heard of it.
    This... and an instagram photo is about all I've seen.


    Advocate Cycles previews two new touring bikes

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    What do you think does Seldom Seen have aluminum or steel frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoran View Post
    What do you think does Seldom Seen have aluminum or steel frame?
    Steel. Tubes a way too skinny for AL.

    Also, Seldom Seen Smith was a old soul, and steel seems more his flavor.

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    Just read it on Wikipedia ... "Seldom Seen" Smith was mormon river guide and had 3 wives.

    Advocate cycles is really cool company!

    George Washington Hayduke's first set of adventures outlined in The Monkey Wrench Gang leave him stranded at the top of a 700-foot (210 m) cliff after a raging storm, surrounded by law enforcement officers in helicopters dropping grenades on his position. Hayduke's body is thought to be seen shredded by gunfire as he topples into the maelstrom of the raging canyon waters 700 feet (210 m) below, thus ending the last of the Monkey Wrench Gang's heroic work in America's besieged Southwest.

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    "The Seldom Seen is a bikepacking and off-road touring specific model that departs from the Hayduke by having an integrated frame bag, load-bearing specific geometries, full rack and fender mounts and proprietary tubing that Advocate designed specifically for this model.
    The two, touring-specific bikes will slot into the lineup alongside the all-road Lorax (which we will have a review of in our next print issue) and the Hayduke, a 27plus hardtail. Naturally, people have been using both of those bikes for on- and off-road touring, so it makes sense to see Advocate step up and offer bikes specifically for that purpose."

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    Looks like an updated El Mar, which it is I guess. Definitely steel. Is that a 142 or 148 rear? Under downtube bottle mount - nice. Looks like the bag has screw in mounts too which is great, and the way things seem to be going. 44mm headtube. Fat seatpost. 70 or 69 degree headtube? Crazy bad cable installation there for the photo... Is that an external threaded BB I see, praise the lord they have seen the light! Pressfit BB's should go the way of the dinosaaur IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by markymark View Post
    Is that a 142 or 148 rear?
    I'm guessing it will be the same as the Hayduke - 148 Boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markymark View Post
    Looks like an updated El Mar, which it is I guess. Definitely steel. Is that a 142 or 148 rear? Under downtube bottle mount - nice. Looks like the bag has screw in mounts too which is great, and the way things seem to be going. 44mm headtube. Fat seatpost. 70 or 69 degree headtube? Crazy bad cable installation there for the photo... Is that an external threaded BB I see, praise the lord they have seen the light! Pressfit BB's should go the way of the dinosaaur IMHO
    Exactly! I'm on an ElMar now, and it my understanding that my 2013 ElMar and Advocate "Hayduke" and "Seldom Seen" are designed by the same guy, Tim. Who left Salsa and went to Advocate. So I am getting my updated ElMar, it's just called an Advocate Seldom Seen, now.

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    Looking at it again, that's a 120mm boosted fork and the head angle looks slacker than 70 degrees. Am sure it will be able to run 100mm. For me personally 120mm is too much for bikepacking, much rather go 100mm and a steeper HA, or rigid. Don't want slacked out HA for long days of traveling riding all sorts of mixed conditions. But that's just me, never bought into the slack HA trend, especially on 29ers - YMMV!

    The bike looks great though, too bad I've just built up an El Mar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoran View Post
    Just read it on Wikipedia ... "Seldom Seen" Smith was mormon river guide and had 3 wives.

    Advocate cycles is really cool company!
    May I respectfully suggest that anyone who enjoys nature and wild lands enough to ride a heavy, loaded bike around as a form of enjoyment, to read some Ed Abbey. Don't be satisfied with a wikipedia outline of who Seldom Seem Smith was.

    Read a book, get inspired!

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    Yep. Found The Monkey Wrench Gang in the "buck-a-book" bin at the local grocery store about three years ago. I'd never heard of it, but became intrigued, so I picked it up. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

    I also found it thoroughly annoying.

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    You'll have to dig up "Hayduke Lives".
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    Do you know what type of Rohloff can fit this frame? It is hard to see dropouts ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoran View Post
    Do you know what type of Rohloff can fit this frame? It is hard to see dropouts ...
    It's hard to imagine it being anything other than a 142 or 148 maxle. Rohloff is coming out with (or has come out with?) a 142 maxle compatible version of the Speedhub, but it won't work with boost.
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    Seldom Seen frame is not split frame and if rider needs Rohloff with belt, frame must be customized? Hayduke is more versatile but missing few things like:

    threaded BB
    downtube bottle holder
    and ...?

    What else do you see as step forward from Hayduke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garcia View Post
    Is there any info out there on this? Curious, but this is the first I have heard of it.


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    You can ride a demo at Interbike’s Dirt Demo and will be at the indoor show on Advocate Cycles’ stand on Wednesday!

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