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    Trek Transport Cargo Bike - revealed.

    I got to try the Trek Transport, Transport + in Vegas and I've now owned the Transport for about a week. Here's some key observations.

    $1300 - That is a great value. It comes complete with all the racks and one bag.

    Specs - Weight is about 45 lbs. Wheelbase is 49 inches for the medium. Sizing is 17 and 20 inches.

    All Aluminum frame - This is key as this bike is relatively light and it seems structurally sound and laterally stiff.

    200 lb cargo capacity - 100 lbs on the rear tray and 50 lbs each on the side trays. Maybe another 25 in the front rack.

    2x8 speed - gearing is perfect with 28/38 up front. 3 rings up front for a cargo bike is silly.

    Disc brake in the front, Vbrake in the rear - Disc/Disc would have been nice but it is upgradeable in the rear and it has not been an issue yet.

    Low BB and short cranks - BB is low at 11.4 inches. That's about 1 to 2 inches lower than most mountain bikes. To avoid hitting the cranks on the ground, they've been shortened to 165mm.

    Mary-style handlebar and ergo grips - These are cool touches as the cockpit is very comfortable.

    BB and rear triangle are extremely stiff. Because of the beefy aluminum construction to support all the rear cargo, the BB area has been reinforced quite a bit. The result is acceleration and responsiveness that is really surprising!! Handling is awesome too.


    My research:
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    This is the golden age of cargo bikes. As health, energy and environment issues arise, people are looking to bike more. The cargo bike is one solution to many of life's errands and To do list trips. It is a possible car replacement solution.

    But all is not well. The cargo bike solutions are very immature and the current setups and pricing are just a hint of what they need to be. Here are some of the things I looked into:


    Surly Big Dummy - about $2500 for a bike and $800 for a frame msrp. Xtracycle compatible and it seems that this is not usually a complete bike but a building block for an enthusiast or build kit ready system depending on the store you purchase from. Cargo capability is about 200 lbs assuming a 200lb rider.
    Sizes: s, m, l, xl
    frame weight: 12.6 lbs
    wheelbase: 57.4 inches for medium
    <img src="https://www.surlybikes.com/uploads/bikes/BK3266.jpg" width="500">



    Xtracycle Radish - $1200, 45 lb complete chromoly bike. Load ability seems light at <100 lbs. Available in 2011. Pre-order only. Seems built for city and short trips.
    wheelbase: around 54 inches
    sizes: one available
    <img src="https://www.xtracycle.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/a/radish2010-freeLoaderNew-side-A_1_1.png" width="500">

    Xtracycle Freeradical BigStoker - around $630 add on kits are available for normal mountain bikes. This connects to any old mountain bike and has a rear tray and two side bags. Many other configurations are available
    <img src="https://www.xtracycle.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/r/freerad-cargoloader-guitar.jpg" width ="500">


    Kona Ute - Built with an aluminum frame and 29er wheels. $1050 with bags. Wheelbase is a little shorter. Big tire options are limited for pavement
    Wheelbase: 50 inches
    sizes: M, L
    <img src="https://www.konaworld.com/images/bikes/med/ute.jpg" width="500">

    Yuba Mundo - $1250 complete bike without bags. This is an extremely heavy bike with 400 lb cargo capacity. This bike is suited for flat city riding as a minivan replacement
    wheelbase: 59.5 inches
    sizes: one available
    <img src="https://www.yubaride.com/wp-content/gallery/mundo/yd5e9705a.jpg" width="500">



    So that's the landscape as I understood it. Please comment and give me feedback as I'm starting to write an article on cargo bikes.


    My experience:
    Here's some of my photos. They will show what a blast I'm having with the Trek Transport. My biggest revelation is how fun it is to ride and how easy it is to pedal.

    The bottom bracket is extemely stiff and low at 11.4 inches. So it's easy to get on and power really transfers to the ground. It takes a bit to get it going but it keeps its speed well.

    Handling is truly incredible. Because it's laterally stiff and low to the ground, it feels like a stretch limo sports car. It's very predictable on corners and really easy to maneuver. Surprisingly, despite an aluminium frame and small tires, it is very, very comfortable. The long wheelbase seems to smooth everything out.

    Weaknesses:
    - there's a lot of rattling in the back from the folding side trays and locking pin
    - the stem is way too short because of the mary style bars
    - the bag needs better compartments and the straps can use some improvement.


    Photos:

    UPS cannot deliver a box this big!!
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    hope it's all here:
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    all done
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    Nice bag and kickstand. Notice it's standing even though not balanced
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    massive yoke
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    mighty chainstay
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    roast pig tray
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    art shot
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    loaded with dog and baseball gear
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    We call this the happy bike
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    it's strong and easy to handle
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    150 lb rider plus 180 lbs in passengers
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    1000 foot mtb climb
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    thats tight!! Nice man

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    I got my Xtracycle Freeradical back in June 2007 and have no regrets converting my old mountain bike to a long tail. The bike has so many uses from hauling people/kids to groceries.

    Like you, I have a blast riding it and the kids as well. I find that the free loader design is very useful as you can see from my pictures on how I use them.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/rgonzalo...eat=directlink

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    Nice! I like the concept of the fold up side trays, but the rattling would drive me bonkers.
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    Cool, I like the low top tube & front rack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superjohnny
    Cool, I like the low top tube & front rack.
    Yes, that front rack is a bonus. Nobody else seems to have that in stock configuration.

    The super low top tube allows for 'female' style bike entry. I'm trying to get used to that. It's convenient to avoid hitting your knee on the rear rack or when there's something big back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baker
    Nice! I like the concept of the fold up side trays, but the rattling would drive me bonkers.
    It rattles a bit on trails and where's no bags. I think I've figured it out by putting ample spacers on the moving pivots of the side trays. Now it's pretty tight and they stay in the location you leave them even without the locking pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgonzalo
    I got my Xtracycle Freeradical back in June 2007 and have no regrets converting my old mountain bike to a long tail. The bike has so many uses from hauling people/kids to groceries.

    Like you, I have a blast riding it and the kids as well. I find that the free loader design is very useful as you can see from my pictures on how I use them.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/rgonzalo...eat=directlink

    Awesome! I've always wanted to learn about that system. How is it mounted to the bike and how does it stay laterally stiff? Is it just mounted on the dropouts? Are disc brakes possible?

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    There are 3 mount points 1 in front just behind the bottom bracket and the 2 rear dropouts. The free radical I got has the disc brake option in the rear. They designed the free loaders buckle system so you can use them as straps over the top to tie down things like the dog carrier.

    I like the fold down trays that the Trek has. Xtracycle has them as well as an option called wide loaders I think but they don't fold up like the Trek ones. I put on the footsie pad instead for the back passengers and added a stoker bar for them to hold on to.

    The nice about the conversion, is that its completely reversible.

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    Cool ride, Francois. It's great it comes stock with the front rack and loving the lechon sized rear platform. I wished my Dummy had that sized rear rack. I'm glad there are more cargo bike options out there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Yes, that front rack is a bonus. Nobody else seems to have that in stock configuration.

    The super low top tube allows for 'female' style bike entry. I'm trying to get used to that. It's convenient to avoid hitting your knee on the rear rack or when there's something big back there.

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    Iíve accidentally kicked my kid in the ribs twice getting on the Big Dummy with the PeaPod LT installed, swinging my leg over the top of the seat. (see photo) I have since become accustomed to mounting more ďchick-styleĒ, such that the wellbeing of my sonís ribs is taken into consideration.
    Donít frail and blow if youíre going to Braille and Flow.

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    i just copied this over from the Cargo Bike forum in case anyone here is interested in this kind of bike.

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    video!!!!

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    Nice job from GF and Trek. It seems stronger than the others cargo bikes and it has very good details as the side trays and the front rack.

    It has also a good design.

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    Seatpost size

    Francois,

    I just ordered a transport+ and want to put on a Cane Creek suspension seatpost. Can you tell me the diameter of the seatpost?

    Thanks
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    Francois, love the bike, especially the saddle. Do you know where I can find that saddle for sale, as I do not see it on Bontrager's website?

    thanks!

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    thanks!

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