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    New question here. help me compare some local closeout bikes... XC mostly

    I'm also a bike commuter (15 miles roundtrip) but I do XC style riding on weekends
    I am new to FS bikes but have borrowed one on occasion and I must admit I know little about component quality. I did really enjoy a test ride of a fuel 90 large frame bike in a bike store yesterday (I'm 6'1, 195)

    please help me decide which is the best deal?
    cliff notes:
    '03 trek fuel 80 $850
    '03 trek fuel 90 $1199
    '03 gary fisher sugar 3+ $999
    '03 trek liquid 10 $1199

    full details:

    '03 trek fuel 80 $850

    Frame ZR 9000 aluminum
    Fork RockShox Pilot SL
    Headset Steel
    Rear Shock Fox Float
    Rims/Wheels Bontrager Corvair
    Hubs Front: aluminum; Rear: Shimano
    Spokes 14g stainless-steel
    Tires Bontrager Jones AC
    Crankset Shimano M440
    Chainwheel 44/32/22
    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore
    Rear Cogs SRAM 7.0, 9-speed: 11-34
    Shifters Shimano Deore
    Handlebars Bontrager Crowbar Sport
    Stem Bontrager Sport
    Brake Levers Aluminum
    Brakes Shimano 420, linear-pull
    Pedals Shimano M515, clipless
    Saddle Bontrager FS2000
    Seat Post Bontrager Sport

    or
    2003 Gary Fisher sugar 3+ $999
    Frame Platinum Series ZR9000 aluminum, Genesis Geometry
    Fork RockShox Duke XC
    Headset Direct connect
    Rear Shock Fox Float R
    Rims/Wheels Bontrager Select wheelset
    Hubs See Rims/Wheels
    Spokes See Rims/Wheels
    Tires IRC Backcountry, 26 x 2.25
    Crankset Bontrager Race
    Chainwheel 22/32/44
    Bottom Bracket ISIS splined
    Chain Shimano
    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore LX
    Rear Derailleur Shimano XT
    Rear Cogs SRAM 7.0, 9-speed: 11-32
    Shifters Shimano Deore LX
    Handlebars Bontrager Crowbar Sport
    Tape/Grips Serfas dual-density
    Stem Bontrager Select
    Brake Levers Avid SD-5
    Brakes Avid SD-3, linear-pull
    Pedals Shimano M515 clipless
    Saddle Titec Ithys Amore
    Seat Post Bontrager Sport
    Accessories & Extras Rear shock pump

    or...
    2003 trek fuel 90 $1199

    FRAMESET:
    FRAME: ZR 9000 Alloy. World Cup tested. Double butted seamless drawn tubing. Custom butted head tube. Bi-axial downtube. Triangulated Rocker Link. Disc-O disc brake mount. Cold forged replaceable derailleur hanger. Trek Pro Race geometry. Handmade in the USA.

    FORK: RockShox Duke XC hydra air, HC2 damping, 30mm upper tubes, external rebound adjust, 80mm travel
    REAR SHOCK: Fox Float R air spring, self-adjusting negative spring, rebound adjusting knob, Ni charged

    WHEELS:
    WHEELS: Bontrager Select: Durable welded rims, machined for smooth braking; OSB rear rim provides good stiffness for any size rider; Hi-Lo ATB rear hub design w/excellent spoke bracing angles for improved lateral wheel rigidity; Cro-Moly skewers; 780 g, 24h front/1045 g, 28h rear
    TIRES: Bontrager Jones AC, folding, 26x49/54

    COMPONENTS:
    SADDLE: Bontrager FS 2000, Cro-Moly rails
    SEATPOST: Bontrager Select
    HANDLEBARS: Bontrager Crowbar Sport
    STEM: Bontrager Select, 10
    HEADSET: AHS 1-1/8" alloy cups, semi cartridge, sealed

    DRIVETRAIN:
    SHIFTERS: Shimano Deore LX
    FRONT DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore LX
    REAR DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore XT
    CRANKSET: Bontrager Race 44/32/22
    CASSETTE: SRAM 7.0 11-34, 9spd

    OTHER:
    BRAKESET: Avid SD3 linear pull
    PEDALS: Shimano M515, clipless

    or...
    2003 trek liquid 10 $1199
    FRAMESET:
    FRAME: ZR 9000 Alloy. Double butted seamless drawn tubing. Custom butted head tube. Bi-axial downtube. Triangulated Rocker Link design. Black Magic composite seatstays. Liquid geometry adjusts to changing terrain. Handmade in the USA.
    FORK: RockShox Psylo C, U-Turn, HC2 damping, travel gradients, 80/125mm travel
    REAR SHOCK: Fox Talas R air spring, self-adjusting negative, travel adjust on shock, adjustable rebound

    WHEELS:
    WHEELS: Bontrager Select Disc: Machined rims welded for strength; OSB rear rim provides good stiffness for any size rider; Hi-Lo ATB rear hub design w/excellent spoke bracing angles for improved lateral wheel rigidity; Cro-Moly skewers; 780 g, 24h front/1045 g, 28h rear
    TIRES: IRC TrailBear, folding, 26x2.25"

    COMPONENTS:
    SADDLE: Bontrager FS 2000
    SEATPOST: Bontrager Sport
    HANDLEBARS: Bontrager Crowbar Sport
    STEM: Bontrager Sport, 15
    HEADSET: AHS 1-1/8" semi cartridge, sealed

    DRIVETRAIN:
    SHIFTERS: Shimano Deore
    FRONT DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore
    REAR DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore LX
    CRANKSET: Bontrager Race 44/32/22
    CASSETTE: SRAM 7.0 11-34, 9spd

    OTHER:
    BRAKESET: Hayes HFX-9, hydraulic disc
    PEDALS: Shimano M515, clipless

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    Alright firstly you have to decide.
    The Gary fisher and the Treks will fit differently. So you should have a ride on them and decide which one fits 'you' best!
    Next you will have to decide if you want a lighter, more efficient, racier bike(ie the Fuel or Sugar) or if you want a trail bike made for rougher/harder riding, not really going to be as light nor as efficient(the liguid or GF's Cake).
    Once you have deicded that and narrowed down your choices, Go with the Best you can afford or want to afford.
    Hope this helps

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    ok to make it even more complicated, found another LBS selling GF '04 closeouts...
    I am leaning towards a fuel 90 (non disc brake) but these Cake bikes have me interested.

    how do they compare? say on flatground? with the shock locked down out back it's basically a fuel? or? and with the suspension opened it's kind of a liquid or that's not fair to say?

    Gary Fisher Cake 2
    carbon rear, lightweight all-mountain frame
    $1299 SALE ($1600 regular price)
    17.5" MED, 19" LRG (email about add'l sizes)

    Gary Fisher Cake 3
    $1099 SALE ($1400 regular price)
    17.5" MED, 19" LRG (email about add'l sizes)

    Gary Fisher Cake 3 DLX
    Hayes HFX-9 Disc brakes
    $1399 SALE ($1600 regular price)
    17.5" MED, 19" LRG (email about add'l sizes)

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    I have a 2000 Sugar and it's been great. I've never ridden the Cake but I've seen one in person and it looked sweet. It's a single pivot so it won't be as efficient as the Fuel but it will be able to take more abuse. I've beat the crap out of my Sugar and she's still going strong. Of course, now she's just a racing bike and doesn't see a whole lot of action. But she's fun, super light (about 24 lbs.) and a fast racing bike.

    That being said, I'd post your questions about the Cake in the Fisher forum. Lots of reviews and people to help you with the decision. Plus, since Trek and Fisher and basically the same company, you should be able to get all your answers there.

    Hope this helps and good luck.
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