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    New question here. Does this (monster cross) frameset (of my dreams) exist?

    Hi. I'm new around here! I'll jump straight to my question. Here's what I'm after:

    • Steel frame and fork. Rigid.
    • Minimum 700x45mm tire clearance with Honjo fenders. I don't want to run 650b wheels. 700c it is.
    • Sub 405 mm reach (I have a short torso, 93 cm inseam).
    • Front rack eyelets.
    • Disc brake ready.
    • Near horizontal top tube (not the sloping kind).
    • Big frame size available (~60 cm C-C seat tube). ~85 cm standover and above.
    • Sub $1000.
    • Preferably quick release, not thru-axle (not a deal breaker).
    • Available as frameset. I'm not after a complete bike.
    • Ships to Sweden, preferably from Europe (not a deal breaker).

    I intend to run it with drop bars. Closest thing I've found is Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross, but it has no support for disc brakes. They've got a disc version coming out, but for that they're changing the geometry (sloping top tube). Soulcraft Dirtbomb is close (well, not the price), but no disc brakes either. Surly Disc Trucker 62 cm frameset looks good too, but clearance seems to be around 40mm with fenders.

    Actually, the Soma Wolverine looks exactly like what I'm after. But reach is a bit long for the 62 cm frame. The Salsa Marrakesh is also very close, but the 59.5 cm size seems to completely match the bike I have now in terms of size (although it has a longer seat post which gives it a near horizontal top tube). Which brings me to...

    I currently have the 56 cm Kona Sutra LTD, which ticks many of these boxes (although the top tube may be the sloping kind). The frame is too small though (seat post in the sky). The 58 cm isn't available as a frameset.
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    Fisticuff Frame

    if you plug in the numbers for the large frame here, you'll find that the reach is 373 mm. check my math.

    https://www.chumbausa.com/terlingua-700c-650bplus/

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    At your height, check out this tool for looking at stack and reach for tall bikes:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/clydesdales-t...s-1043334.html
    http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/
    RIGID, not "ridged" or "ridgid"
    PEDAL, not "peddle." Unless you're selling stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    Thanks. Nice frame, I wish I had shorter legs. 575 mm C-T puts it about where my 56 cm Sutra LTD is. It will be the seatpost in the sky syndrome. I need at least 600 mm C-C or about 62 cm C-T.

    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    if you plug in the numbers for the large frame here, you'll find that the reach is 373 mm. check my math.
    https://www.chumbausa.com/terlingua-700c-650bplus/
    Seatpost for 60 cm size is 560 mm, exactly as my Sutra LTD. Too bad. Nice frame again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Squirrel View Post
    Thank you! Sloping top tube, but probably the closest yet. 700c 53mm tyre clearance, should fit 45mm tires without problem! Tiny reach and reasonably high stack. Cheap too! Can't seem to find the frameset in Europe. But at that price an overseas order may be OK.
    Last edited by not_hip; 05-19-2018 at 08:12 AM.

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    Is there a specific reason for not wanting a sloped Top Tube? Eg, need space for a frame bag? The modern seat posts can handle any load that a gravel grinder can put through it.
    I am the same leg length and have no problem with 'low' style frames with long Seat Stems protruding out. I prefer them, but I respect a 'traditional' point of view as well. I have made both styles, but prefer to design out the 'tallness' of these bikes unless a frame bag is a requirement.

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