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    ... and if we just ... Your Entry Level MTB (Pics and Upgrades)

    Well guys if you like me you have just as much passion for your entry level bike as anybody who has poured thousands into their FS rig. However there seems to be no dedicated thread to show off to the world our bikes. Well here it is.

    Well folks lets see those entry level MTB that are so dear to you. After all they have introduced you to one of the greatest sports on earth. Be sure to include those upgrades

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    Here is my contribution...



    08 Specialized Hardrock Sport

    Upgrades:

    Oury Mtn Grips
    Kool Stop dual compound Mtn brake pads
    WTB Velociraptor Kevlar tires Front and Back (back had to be sent back not pictured here)
    Lizard Skins chainstay protector
    Seat
    Wellgo Platform Pedals

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    06' GT i-drive 5 2.0

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    What kind of pedals are those? Did they come with the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist
    [IMG]What kind of pedals are those? Did they come with the bike?
    No, they were some cheap bmx pedals i picked up at the lbs. I was havin problems slipping off so i got those and a pair of walmart skater shoes. Problem solved...

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    <a href="https://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/nike103103/?action=view&current=bikephotobucket.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/nike103103/bikephotobucket.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

    Its a 2009 Gary Fisher Advance. Everything is stock excpept for the sigma computer I added.


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    I was stoked after my ride!!hahaha

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    My new toy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by siscoOGpimp
    06' GT i-drive 5 2.0

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    Do you have that yet? I thought you were trying to back out of the sale after looking at the pics of scratches on the fork for the first time...?

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    So far so good - a year with my dependable xc machine has gone by: how fun its been.





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    This is my daily ride. I love it more than the other bikes simply because it's been with me the longest and has spent more time with me than any other bike.



    Rock Shox Dart 2 front shock, Alex DH 20 rim up front, Mavic X317 in the rear, Bontrager Jones XR tires (I find the give me a good balance since this bike is used really only for commuting and for long trail rides on paved surfaces or hardpack with minimal need for high grip in the corners)

    I will never EVER part with it.

    Oh and her name is Sweaty Betty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_me_Al
    Do you have that yet? I thought you were trying to back out of the sale after looking at the pics of scratches on the fork for the first time...?
    Ya im in the process of getting it. I decided since its my first entry level bike I cant get the best but i can get the best bang for my buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spec4life
    Here is my contribution...



    08 Specialized Hardrock Sport

    Upgrades:

    Oury Mtn Grips
    Kool Stop dual compound Mtn brake pads
    WTB Velociraptor Kevlar tires Front and Back (back had to be sent back not pictured here)
    Lizard Skins chainstay protector
    Seat
    Wellgo Platform Pedals
    Sweet ride!! Mine with Wellgo MAC3 pedals: Am saving pesos for a Tora 318 front shock. What fork is that on there?

    08 Specialized Hardrock Comp Disc


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    My Hardrock. I think its a 2004 model. Maybe a 2005.
    Got it off ebay for a song.
    Got the 100mm Manitou Black fork off ebay for under $40 shipped. Added the extra stiff spring kit.
    I built it up from a frame.
    Right now it is spec'd as follows.

    21" XL Hardrock
    100mm Manitou Black Comp
    Easton Vice 50mm stem
    Titec El Norte 2" riser bar
    Lizard skin north shore lock on grips
    Easton Vice seatpost
    Salsa non QR seatpost clamp
    SDG Grand Prix Chrome saddle
    Truvativ Fire-x cranks 22t-36t-bash with outboard BB
    Wellgo platform pedals
    Sun Rhyno Lite Wheelset
    Forte Gotham 1.75 city tires
    Avid BB7 front brake 160mm
    Tektro Rear brake 160mm
    Old Shimano brake levers
    Sram X0 Gripshifter 9spd rear shifter
    Sram X7 front shifter
    Sram X7 Rear Deraileur
    Shimano Acera front deraileur
    Sram PC991 chain
    Sram PG990 cassette 9spd

    I used an old 160mm disc brake adapter to mount the rear blinky light to the rack mount on the rear seatstay. It's complete with a bing bell and headlight as well.

    If you didn't guess yet, this is now my commuter bike. This bike has seen a few different build ups since I bought it. Here it is as my trail bike.


    This bike got me back into the sport after a layover of not owning a bike. I'm very stoked to be back btw.
    Here are the bikes I have built up over the last year or so.



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    Magura Menja fokr
    Avid BB7's front and rear
    Avid Speed Dial Ti levers
    Wellgo B37's
    Sram X-7 shifters
    Funn Fatboy bar

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    My 08 6000. New WTB Rocket Pro saddle and M647 pedals. Everything else is stock until I break it.

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    Thanks to Phadreus for naming it Darth Vader...
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    This is not mine, but it is the same model that got me started in mountain biking back in teh early '90s. U brakes FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roswell52
    My 08 6000. New WTB Rocket Pro saddle and M647 pedals. Everything else is stock until I break it.

    08 600000001.JPG

    Thanks to Phadreus for naming it Darth Vader...
    Anytime, glad to help! Glad to hear you're enjoying the ride Ros!
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    [QUOTE=HardRockCop]Sweet ride!! Mine with Wellgo MAC3 pedals: Am saving pesos for a Tora 318 front shock. What fork is that on there?

    The point of taking the stickers off is so noone knows for sure...

    No seriously its just the stock suntour 100mm..

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    Stevens M6 Race

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    Stock..so far..

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    '07 Diamond Back Response Comp. Not a pic of mine, but for the most part the same. I have alloy pedals with toe clips instead of the clipless.

    <img src="https://bluecollarmtb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/diamondback.jpg">

    Upgrades:

    Grips: Bontrager Selects
    Chain: SRAM PG951
    Water cages

    Waiting for the bottom bracket to wear out so I can replace the cranks.

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    Here is my bike, 2008 Haro, I guess it's entry level, I paid $800 for it at the shop. Since I bought it I have replaced the brakes with Avid Juicy Sevens, Sram Attack shifters, Rock Shox Recon 351 fork, RaceFace crank, Red Line BMX pedals (sharp as razor blades!) , 2.5 Weirwolf Race tires, ODI lock on grips. Threw on a bottle cage and a wireless computer to track my stamina (which is improving by the day)
    Future upgrades will be a new wheelset, new rear shock, new derails and what ever else I can get my hands on. I am building a extra bike to loan out to guests with all the extra parts.
    I ride this every day, it's twice the ride now than when I bought it. My five year old grandaughter took a wet rag to it today and gave it a good cleaning. A.H




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    some shots of my iron horse maverick, all stock.... for now


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    IH Warrior 1.3

    Pretty much "stock" except for seat, saddlepack, and tube-chainstay. Takes a beating.


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    I upgraded the pedals to Time Aliums since i took this pic.

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    My Iron Horse Warrior 5.0 that I bought from Rscycle.com. It has been a solid bike which has kept up with most of my friend's much more expensive rigs. Upgrades include:
    • Several Pounds of dust
    • Chunks of Colorado Rock
    • Many foreign objects stuck in chain
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    Forge Sawback

    Forge Sawback - After a fresh bath and a new fork

    Upgrades - all ebay buys except the tires

    XT Dual Control Shifters
    XT Rear Derailleur
    XT Hydro Brakes
    Manitou R7 Super

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    Quote Originally Posted by dana109


    I upgraded the pedals to Time Aliums since i took this pic.
    Nice Rocky!

    Looks real nice in that colour.

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    this was an entry level GT avalanche, about 2 years ago ... my first bike ... and not 1 month into it, i have already upgraded the brakes and rotors

    20080829 GT 01 MTBR FORUM.jpg

    then it was the saddle and seat post and fork and wheels

    20080829 GT 02 MTBR FORUM.jpg

    thereafter i caught the deadly disease, upgradis canceritis, and the GT frame was history ... i still have the upgraded parts mentioned above just that it is on another frame and so at least i did not actually upgrade a part that was previously an upgrade itself ...


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    my 2008 Marlin Disc, stock except the saddle which was replaced with an unknown bontrager that was narrower and thinner than the original, which was torn when I picked up the bike.

    Mine and my Fiance's bikes on our super cheap target rack. She made me take it down though, she said it was too big for our one bedroom apartment. She's right lol!

    yeah that's the Marlin going off its first pretty sweet jump

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    Here's my IH Maverick 5.0.

    F&R Avid BB7
    Avid Full Metal Jacket
    Avid SpeedDial 7
    Panaracer XC Fire Pro
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    WTB PrueV saddle
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    Which bike should i get ?

    Hello fellow riders, I started riding to get some exercise at the beginning of this year.When I first started it was like work but I stuck with it and now its fun if I dont ride everyday I dont feel right. I've been riding trails and single tracks and the single is rough so heres my problem I've been doing this on a Pacific mountain bike from Toys R Us LOL I did'nt know how hard I was working riding this bike until I went to some bike shop's that were having sale's, so here's my ? I want to get a real entry level mountain bike and these or my pick's Gaint XTC1,Cannondale F4 or 5,Trek 6000 all hardtails. I would like some feedback PS. you may laugh at my Pacific but it got me in shape and opened up a whole new world .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonhendon
    Hello fellow riders, I started riding to get some exercise at the beginning of this year.When I first started it was like work but I stuck with it and now its fun if I dont ride everyday I dont feel right. I've been riding trails and single tracks and the single is rough so heres my problem I've been doing this on a Pacific mountain bike from Toys R Us LOL I did'nt know how hard I was working riding this bike until I went to some bike shop's that were having sale's, so here's my ? I want to get a real entry level mountain bike and these or my pick's Gaint XTC1,Cannondale F4 or 5,Trek 6000 all hardtails. I would like some feedback PS. you may laugh at my Pacific but it got me in shape and opened up a whole new world .
    Dont be a thread jacker...

    Start a new one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProjectBomber

    Mine and my Fiance's bikes on our super cheap target rack. She made me take it down though, she said it was too big for our one bedroom apartment. She's right lol!
    Hey so ya selling the rack? I booted mine (MTB hater) and that would great in my two bedroom apartment....right next to my big-screen HD football watching 56" DLP TV!

    Nice bike, btw, too!

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    Thanks for all the help guys NOT I quess I'm flying solo !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroverTheClover
    Here's my IH Maverick 5.0.

    F&R Avid BB7
    Avid Full Metal Jacket
    Avid SpeedDial 7
    Panaracer XC Fire Pro

    I'm in love with the color of your frame

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    Marin Hawk Hill SE 2005.

    Upgrades are XT front and rear derailleur, LX shifters, Truvativ Stylo Crankset, Mavic/Shimano front wheel, Alex/Shimano rear wheel and Avid BB7 brakes.



    I was going to upgrade some other things as well (especially the fork), but at this point I'm looking at getting a Chumba XCL frame and doing that up with an all XT setup with a TALAS 32 fork. I'm pretty sure that the bike shop I bought this bike at didn't fit me properly. Doing longer rides (1.5+ hrs) I get significant discomfort in my back and when I ran my measurements through a few online calculators they calculated that I need a TT length of 23.5 to 24". The Marin is 21.7" I believe.

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    '09 Specialized Hardrock disc

    All stock for now except for the Specialized Speedzone Comp computer i added.
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    Heres my 08 Diamondback Responce... This is for getting me back and forth from school (around 2-3 miles) and to hit minor trails when i want! Im basically using this til i get used to trails and can start hitting bigger ones. Im going to get road tires for this bike pretty soon so i can basically use this as a road and trail rider til i feel like i need to upgrade and when i do im going to get the competition version of this bike!!! DIAMONDBACK FOR LIFE!!!



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    This is my entry lvl Diamondback Hardtail Responce... And i Love it!!!


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    This might be a little off topic, but many of us who have posted have mainly entry level bikes with upgrades. At what point do you stop with the upgrades and move on to another bike? Is it really worth it to invest heavily in an entry level bike? I am most likely done with upgrades until something breaks.

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    Hello to all, this is my first post after being a lurker for a while . Currently only have the one pic of my Spec Hardrock Comp Disc 08. I look a little bemused but the photo was taken about 10 minutes after doing a flying act over the handle bars and snapping my wrists back (luckly no break of fracture). Currently no upgrades but only had for a couple of months. I'm fairly new to mountain biking, haven't been on a bike for a good 10 years but thoroughly enjoying it
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    08 fisher tassajara

    Finally have a picture up. No major upgrades...terry fly gel saddle, crank brothers mallet 1's, and a cateye computer. That's about all.

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    Here's my 08 Hardrock

    No real upgrades...just some Time ATAC pedals. I also changed the stem and bar out. But they're back at the stock setup now. Saddle has been upgraded to something smaller than I can slide back on easier. The stock saddle was way too big and made descents fairly difficult and dangerous!

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/averen1/2354335293/" title="Specialized Hardrock by averen, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/2354335293_35062b3595.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Specialized Hardrock" /></a>

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    08 Trek 4500 (converted to 1x9)
    C.B. EggBeaters, WTB PureV Saddle, WTB VelociRaptors 2.1, Blackspire 34T, Gamut Bashguard, Rohloff Chainguide Half, Deore LX Rear Derailleur.

    She gets around alright, nice and light on the climbs. Wish i had a granny today, but nothin a little mashing wouldntt get me through on that trail.
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    1x9 Hardtail, yummy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonhendon
    Hello fellow riders, I started riding to get some exercise..... ......I want to get a real entry level mountain bike and these or my pick's Gaint XTC1,Cannondale F4 or 5,Trek 6000 all hardtails. I would like some feedback PS. you may laugh at my Pacific but it got me in shape and opened up a whole new world .
    not going to laugh at your pacific. any of those bikes are good, pick the one that fits the best and that you like the best. its really that easy.
    now.... dont hijack threads

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    Old bike. 2000 Gary Fisher Marlin. Totally stock.

    New bike. 2008 GT Force 3.0. Totally stock except the standard pedals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HardRockCop
    Hey so ya selling the rack? I booted mine (MTB hater) and that would great in my two bedroom apartment....right next to my big-screen HD football watching 56" DLP TV!

    Nice bike, btw, too!
    sorry, I'm not planning on selling the rack quite yet. we should be moving around the first of the year to a bigger place and I hope to have room for it then, maybe even a garage lol.

    For all you people with rockin' the DiamondBacks, have you had any issues i should look out for on my fiance's ride?

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    2003 Jamis Eureka converted to a singlespeed.


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    hmmm how much does single speed upgrades cost and what is it mainly for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mychal89
    hmmm how much does single speed upgrades cost and what is it mainly for?
    Having a single speeder is mostly about being a true American badass, and telling the world, "Gears? I don't need no stinkin' gears!!!"

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    2009 Gary Fisher Marlin Disc, and 2008 Trek 6000 Disc

    I just purchased new bikes for the wife and I. Here they are in all of their stock glory!

    Hope you don't mind a bunch of pictures.

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    2008 Trek 6000 Disc








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    2007 Cannondale F7. Upgrades are Eggbeater pedals, WTB saddle, stem, flat bar, SRAM Attack Gripshift, IRC Mibro tires, and Dart 3 fork (wanted lockout but wish I bought something better).
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    Nice bikes Matt. Lose the reflectors though. I wish my 6000 series was still that clean. lol. She's a bit dirty.

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    ^^Thanks. Yeah, my reflectors will be gone soon. I was just too excited when I got home and grabbed the camera. The wife won't let me take her's off, though. She's the "what if" type. Nothing wrong with that, though, and it's her bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATT0404
    ^^Thanks. Yeah, my reflectors will be gone soon. I was just too excited when I got home and grabbed the camera. The wife won't let me take her's off, though. She's the "what if" type. Nothing wrong with that, though, and it's her bike.
    How do you like the Marlin? I'm thinking about getting one for my first MTB in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lshaker
    How do you like the Marlin? I'm thinking about getting one for my first MTB in a while.
    I am really liking the Marlin and its G2 geometry. I haven't had too much time to put it through the wringer yet, but so far so good!

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    My entry level mtn bike still building her


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    Y00, after 8 years i felt that it was time to get started with xc again. So i uppgraded my old schauff hurricane xt to an easton whiskey pete. The old frame felt actually lighter then the new one but the new one feels very nice and responsive.
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    I bought this bike a year or two ago, and had it sitting in my garage. One day I looked at it and thought about getting into mountain biking. So for now this is my entry level bike, but I am looking into getting a better and stronger bike

    Sorry for the crappy pictures, this was taken at a local park (wakefield)

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    2009 Giant Rincon, originally bought the bike to do some light XC, trail riding, etc

    A friend of mine got me to try downhilling.. it's ridiculously fun, but I'm still absolutely horrible at it. I decided to upgrade the original Suntour fork with a Marzocchi Dirt Jumper 2 to put up with that extra abuse and I definitely feel like I'm getting better.

    Love the bike so far and its been so much fun getting back into biking. I didn't realize how much I missed it.

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    Hopefully that image works... I got it used, and a bunch of it was upgraded. I dont know what was or wasnt, so here is a component list:

    Shifters and both derailleurs--Shimano Deore XT
    Brakes--Hayes Mag hydraulic disks
    Fork--Magura Quake w/80mm of travel
    Wheels--Forte Terra Max
    Crankset--Shimano Deore LX Hollowtech
    Headset--Cane Creek S6 cartridge bearings
    Saddle--Forte Team titanium rails
    Handlebars--Topo XC-220 aluminum risers
    Seatpost--O'rion aluminum

    it weighs 27.7 lbs, and I got it for $300. Works for me!

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    Got it used, so not sure what was upgraded and what wasnt. a lot of it was though. here are the components:

    Shifters and both derailleurs--Shimano Deore XT
    Brakes--Hayes Mag hydraulic disks
    Fork--Magura Quake s/ 80mm of travel
    Wheels--Forte Terra Max
    Crankset--Shimano Deore LX Hollowtech
    Headset--Cane Creek S6 cartridge bearings
    Saddle--Forte Team titanium rails
    Handlebars--Topo XC-220 aluminum risers
    Seatpost--O'rion aluminum

    weighs in at 27.7 lbs. got it for only $300.

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    2008 Trek 6500 Disc





    Upgrades:
    Shimano M520 clipless
    Raceface Ride flat handlebar
    Panaracer Fire XC Pro tires (66 tpi)
    WTB Speed V saddle
    Sette Edge stem
    Ourey Mountain grips
    Stickers: Raceface, Sette, Ourey, Pricepoint.com (all together add 1.37 mph at all times)

    I love this bike! I just started riding around the beginning July. I was about 224 lbs then, and now I'm at 215. The gut's shrinking as the legs get bigger. I attribute this to riding nearly every day because my diet hasn't changed. My goal is to be out of clydesdale status by the end of the year.

    If you noticed that the fork isn't stock, that's because my Tora 302 was leaking oil. Right now, I have a '09 Tora XC temporarily while the '09 Tora SL's are backordered at SRAM. I should have it in about a month I guess.

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    Love the 6500. I wanted one but they were sold out. Bike shop gave me a good deal on a 6000 out of pity so I have a 6000. Love the oreo paint scheme.

    Beautiful bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNickels
    Love the 6500. I wanted one but they were sold out. Bike shop gave me a good deal on a 6000 out of pity so I have a 6000. Love the oreo paint scheme.

    Beautiful bike!
    Thanks.

    The 6000 is still a very nice bike, and with the money you saved you can justify more upgrades! One of my riding buddies has a '08 6000. I upgraded all the "contact points" and feel the bike is 2x as good as it was stock. I wiped out quite a bit with the stock tires.

    Oreos are good, but zebras are faster. Although, I can eat an oreo faster than I can eat a zebra. But can a zebra eat an oreo faster than me? I think its a wash. At any rate, if possible, my future upgrades will be white. Then it will be double stuffd.

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    Me and my '08 Marlin that I got back in May. This was yesterday morning at the races!

    Only changes thus far are a Spesh BG Sport saddle, Spesh BG grips, some Shimano M520 pedals, and an old busted tube from my roadie I turned into a slapguard for my chainstay.

    Trying to win hearts and minds, but willing to stomp them if necessary.

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    2002 Kona Stuff. Bought it yesterday. Went and did some dirt jumping with it, very nice. old owner added OURY grips and shimano deore disks.


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    Nice 6500, that was the other bike I was looking at when I got my fisher. I was wondering about that 09 Tora on there. I had the same problem as soon as I picked up my bike at the beginning of the year. The same fork came back to me but just with a Reba rebound assembly instead. So does the 09 Tora SL come with motion control or is it just about the same as the '08 tora 302?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncfisherman
    Nice 6500, that was the other bike I was looking at when I got my fisher. I was wondering about that 09 Tora on there. I had the same problem as soon as I picked up my bike at the beginning of the year. The same fork came back to me but just with a Reba rebound assembly instead. So does the 09 Tora SL come with motion control or is it just about the same as the '08 tora 302?
    What Fisher did you end up getting? I probably would have gotten one equivalent to the 6500 but I got a pretty good deal on the Trek. The Rockshox website is updated, so you can check out the '09 forks there. The SL is different from the 302 in that it is lighter, has wider stanchions (what my LBS told me), has no steer tube offset and has different decals.

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    I got the 08 tassajara(its on page 2). It's equivalent to the 6500. Pretty much the exact same component set stock. The fisher just fit me a little better. Gonna check out the RS site...didn't know they updated it yet. Thanks for the info.

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    I had to choose between the '08 Tass and 6500. I got the Trek for $150 less, so I figured I was doing pretty good considering they had the same components. The Tass is a bit lighter than the 6500, maybe by about 2 lbs, so if I had to make the decision again it would be tougher. At the time, they both seemed super light to me considering its my first serious bike.

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    Trek 6000



    upgrades: some free trails tires
    red grips
    some shimano discs
    and the computer
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    Why the shimano discs?

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    2006 Iron Horse Warrior Team SE from Dick's. Paid $300.

    Upgrades:
    • Kaloy seat post
    • Egg Beater pedals
    • scored a sweet deal on a new XT rear dérailleur from eBay (after the Alivio wore out)
    • cheap bar-end grips
    • Lizard Skins chainstay protector
    • SRAM chain with Power Link
    • WTB Velociraptor rear tire
    • SRAM 8-speed cassette with 34 tooth big ring (not installed yet)
    • scored another sweet deal on an LX front dérailleur from Chainlove (not installed yet)


    This is an old photo - I'm using a hydration pack instead of the seat bag & the reflectors are gone.

    The next logical upgrade would be the fork, but any decent fork would cost as much as the bike & the other upgrades combined, so maybe I'll just save up a while & upgrade bikes instead. I'd like to get a DW Link XC race machine.
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    Very Nice

    Very nice bike you have there. It looks like it is light and tough. What kind of crank setup is that? Never mind. It's better that I not know...I'll end up going shopping instead of working on the bike I have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncfisherman
    Why the shimano discs?
    Why the shimano discs you ask? I have a few reasons for that choice. The bike came standard with the avid discs. For some reason they just didn't feel like they worked as well as they should. I spent hours trying to get them adjusted but they always squealed, and things like that get under my skin when i ride , so i found some old shimano discs and mounted them on. They work good in my opinion.
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    I guess it's my turn to contribute, although I don't have pics yet.

    2005 Giant Boulder SE (was stock until last year )
    Magura Odur 80mm Fork
    2007 Avid BB7's with Cleansweep G2 rotors (185/160) rear is A2Z adapted
    Avid Speed Dial Ti levers with Jagwire ripcord cables and housing
    Mavic Crossride wheelset
    Shimano XT front and rear Der's
    Some crappy Shimano plastic shifters
    Truvativ FireX GXP crank
    Shimano M520 pedals
    Easton EA70 OS riser bars
    ODI Rogue clamp-on grips
    Sette Edge OS stem
    Sette APX seatpost
    WTB Power V DH saddle
    Panaracer Smoke/Dart combo

    I think thats about it. Main goal was to drop some weight while strengthening certain areas. Stock weight: 34 pounds, Now: 28.5

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    this is my 98 or maybe it was a 97 kona mountain shock. used it for a year or so then didnt touch it till 3 years ago and ive been slowly upgrading

    thudbuster seatpost
    wtb seat
    kore stem
    time atac alum pedals
    panaracer fire rear tire

    the computer is in the back cuz i use a trainer in the winter

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    I recently went through my 2003 Specialized Hardrock. This is the first mountain bike I purchased.

    Rock Shox - Tora 318 U-Turn fork 85-130mm - X firm spring.
    ODI Rogue lock on grips
    CraneCreek Direct Curve brake levers
    FSA 36 deg head set
    Avid single digit V- Brakes
    Shimano - LX front derailer
    RaceFace Atlas XC bars
    RaceFace Deus 70mm stem
    RaceFace Dues Cranks and rings
    Seat-Specialized Rival SL 143
    Thudbuster LT seat post
    Sram PG 980 cassett
    Sram X0 Shifters
    Sram X0 Medium rear derailer
    Shimano XT chain
    Crank Brothers Candy pedals
    Bontrager Mustang rear wheel with Cris King Hub
    Cat Eye mini wireless computer
    Tires - Maxxis Minnion F+R
    And of course the Kickstand.....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07 FSRxc
    I recently went through my 2003 Specialized Hardrock. This is the first mountain bike I purchased.

    Rock Shox - Tora 318 U-Turn fork 85-130mm - X firm spring.
    ODI Rogue lock on grips
    CraneCreek Direct Curve brake levers
    FSA 36 deg head set
    Avid single digit V- Brakes
    Shimano - LX front derailer
    RaceFace Atlas XC bars
    RaceFace Deus 70mm stem
    RaceFace Dues Cranks and rings
    Seat-Specialized Rival SL 143
    Thudbuster LT seat post
    Sram PG 980 cassett
    Sram X0 Shifters
    Sram X0 Medium rear derailer
    Shimano XT chain
    Crank Brothers Candy pedals
    Bontrager Mustang rear wheel with Cris King Hub
    Cat Eye mini wireless computer
    Tires - Maxxis Minnion F+R
    And of course the Kickstand.....lol
    A KICKSTAND?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy Smoke!

    I've never seen one of those on a nice mountain bike. May I ask why you put that on?

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    '09 Marine Alpine Trail

    No much to brag about; all stock but I am stoked!

    Tomorrow I will go ahead and change the tires to Kenda slicks for commuting (I need to get in better shape before I hit some trails).
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    Here's my Schwinn Delta. Got it on-line from Costco back in Jan just to see if I like this thing called mountain biking. After my first off-road ride in June, turns out I am obsessed with this sport. Only thing I changed were the pedals to a set of Shimano M520 clipless. Not planning on any further upgrades but am now looking for my next bike.








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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow
    A KICKSTAND?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy Smoke!

    I've never seen one of those on a nice mountain bike. May I ask why you put that on?
    I retired the bike for awhile to just ridding around the neighborhood with the Mrs and my son (5 now). Then I gave to my best friends son. He used it for a year or so. He returned it when he out grew it. When I got it back the kickstand was on it. Kinda convenient so it has stayed....lol

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    99 Specialized Hard Rock, all stock except the grips.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 07 FSRxc
    I retired the bike for awhile to just ridding around the neighborhood with the Mrs and my son (5 now). Then I gave to my best friends son. He used it for a year or so. He returned it when he out grew it. When I got it back the kickstand was on it. Kinda convenient so it has stayed....lol
    Hey, i feel ya. i'd get rid of the kickstand if it weren't so gosh darn convenient

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvlc4door
    My entry level mtn bike still building her


    uhh this bike doesnt fit this thread very well

    beautiful and sexy it is tho !!!

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    only upgrades are time pedals and bb-7's
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    This is my 99 GT Zaskar LE. I bought it with all original stock components on the bay a few years ago. The drive train is still original XT/XTR but I have added an Easton EA70 stem/bar, XTR dual control and discs and a Rock Shox Revelation Uturn Air.




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    My Fisher...

    This is my 08' Gary fisher Marlin...
    Bone Stock for now.
    Waiting for some cash...
    or something to brake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 07 FSRxc
    I recently went through my 2003 Specialized Hardrock. This is the first mountain bike I purchased.

    Rock Shox - Tora 318 U-Turn fork 85-130mm - X firm spring.
    ODI Rogue lock on grips
    CraneCreek Direct Curve brake levers
    FSA 36 deg head set
    Avid single digit V- Brakes
    Shimano - LX front derailer
    RaceFace Atlas XC bars
    RaceFace Deus 70mm stem
    RaceFace Dues Cranks and rings
    Seat-Specialized Rival SL 143
    Thudbuster LT seat post
    Sram PG 980 cassett
    Sram X0 Shifters
    Sram X0 Medium rear derailer
    Shimano XT chain
    Crank Brothers Candy pedals
    Bontrager Mustang rear wheel with Cris King Hub
    Cat Eye mini wireless computer
    Tires - Maxxis Minnion F+R
    And of course the Kickstand.....lol
    If you intend to ride mountain on that, then you'd best take off the kickstand. It can be dangerous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley
    If you intend to ride mountain on that, then you'd best take off the kickstand. It can be dangerous...
    I know, I took it on a ride this AM and could hear the kickstand rattling when I went through the rock garden at speed. First time I have heard anything from it. It will more than likely come off in the AM.

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    Right here folks, we have a 2008 Gary Fisher Marlin. It's stock except for...

    -WTB saddle.
    -Shimano PD-520's.
    -Avid Juicy 5 brakes.

    But the seasons done for me now. I ate it on a fairly tame piece of traverse the other day down in SLC near the Shoreline trail. Now I'm in a splint and the docs are x-raying me every few days making sure I don't have a scaphoid fracture.
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    Heck, why not?

    2000 Univega Alpina. Bought this 8 years ago. I stoped ridding it but fell in love again recently. Ever since I got back, I put in a new MX Pro Lo instead of the stock fork.


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    Just got my 09 GF Piranha the other day. Hasn't seen dirt yet but so far it's a great ride. Hoping to take some better pictures outside with a real camera soon.

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    F400

    Finally! Well mine is back up and running. Upgraded to dual control's , rapid rise, and black v-brake (since i cant go disc on the back, mise well hide the v). Been riding for 3 months and this is what i built to keep me on the dirt.






    I know i know. I could lose some weight, by ditching the walky dog

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    My first MTB:

    2000 Schwinn Mesa......Bought it new and it's still going strong with all the original components!!!!


    Recently upgraded to this:
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    Here is mine. It is my first real mountain bike. Upgraded a bit, the frame and fork are still stock. I still prefer this one over all my other mountain bikes.

    Bike: 2001 Kona Cinder Cone
    Fork: Bomber

    Upgrades: Mavic CrossMax, Shimano xt cranks, Cane Creek S2 headset, Easton ec70 carbon flat bar, lx levers, lx shifters, yeti grips, xt front derailer, lx rear derailer, spd pedals, Titec Ithys saddle, irc mythosxc tires, avid bb7 disc brakes, bontrager stem.


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    My first bike....sold...

    My second bike...still got...love it...
    Hold on 2 your f***n fillings !!!!!

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    Nice rides G4...definitely digging the rootbeer color. But, what is entry level about those exactly? Just busting your chops...enjoy the ride.

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    upgrades are:
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    WTB Rocket V Pro saddle
    Sun Rhyno Lite wheelset with Deore Hubs
    Lizard skins chainstay guard
    Hayes Hydraulic disc brakes
    Cateye wireless computer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncfisherman
    Nice rides G4...definitely digging the rootbeer color. But, what is entry level about those exactly? Just busting your chops...enjoy the ride.
    ......they are just first rides.....spent too much ££££/$$$$ too start haha
    Hold on 2 your f***n fillings !!!!!

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    Nice bikes. I like the diff. bikes from you guys.

    I will post some pictures of my bike soon.

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    My Bike: 05 Hardrock Sport

    Got it a couple years ago to just mess around with, and the rest is history. I bought this off a guy who totally neglected the bike, it spent its whole life since he bought it outside, and just about every component was ruined.
    I rebuilt the whole bike with 07 hardrock comp components, and some other little goodies like a better saddle, Blackspire chainrings, and some Specialized Mud spring tires (off for the season.) I currently have Panaracer Firecomp Pro's on, and I'll never buy another tire again!
    So, the only original parts to the bike are the pedals and the fork, but it desperately needs a new fork, but I'm content at the moment.


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    My Haro Flightline Comp She's currently in the shop for oil leaking from around the rebound adjuster. I've got some BB7s and Speed Dial 7 levers waiting for her to come home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whayong
    Heck, why not?

    2000 Univega Alpina. Bought this 8 years ago. I stoped ridding it but fell in love again recently. Ever since I got back, I put in a new MX Pro Lo instead of the stock fork.

    that is a work of art.. i love the old univega bikes.... yours is simply beautiful

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    these sure are some snazzy entry level bikes.

    I would have taken any of them as my entry level mountain bike.

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    '08 Gary Fisher Marlin Disc. Stock in this picture. I've only been doing this since May and I've already gotten into XC racing.

    So far it has:
    WTB Speed V saddle
    Maxxis ADvantage tires
    An XT rear derailleur(to replace the Deore I trashed in my first race)
    M520 pedals

    Plans:
    Mavic 717's
    Reba Race
    BB7's
    LX/XT drivetrain bits as they wear out/break.
    new seatpost/bars/stem to drop more weight.

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    08 Rincon

    Damn, there's some nice bikes here! Mine looks a little boring to the others, but i'm still happy with it

    Here is my 2008 Giant Rincon.

    Only upgrades are Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1's and a pair of DMR V8's...mainly because i'm too chicken to use clipless yet


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    My beloved steed. Univega Alpina 2000

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    seatbag strapped to the stem
    after plastic clip and velcro strap broke
    now i like it there-very handy

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    I've been keeping up to date on this thread, It has brought me to a good question I suppose. I noticed that some people upgraded from bb5's to bb7's. Is it actually worth it?
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    Now I have this:


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    This is my Specialized XC Comp my 1st bike but an awesome entry XC bike I would recommend one! I have since upgraded to a Cube Fritzz for Freeriding and Downhilling!

    If your not falling off, your not riding fast enough!

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    This is my first bike. Haro Extreme. I've had this for almost 15 years. Still going strong. Current ride is a Kona Kikapu deluxe.

    Upgrades:

    Mavic Crossrides
    Sram X7 F & R derailleurs
    Sram X9 thumb shifters
    Avid SD7 levers
    Sram PC991 chain
    Sram pg980 cassette


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    That ^ Haro is interesting. This is my 3-day old Rockhopper

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    Quote Originally Posted by frdfandc
    This is my first bike. Haro Extreme. I've had this for almost 15 years. Still going strong. Current ride is a Kona Kikapu deluxe.

    Upgrades:

    Mavic Crossrides
    Sram X7 F & R derailleurs
    Sram X9 thumb shifters
    Avid SD7 levers
    Sram PC991 chain
    Sram pg980 cassette

    That is one sweet ass ride!

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    Great pics and descriptions. Pics of my new entry-level Forge Sawback 7xx coming soon.

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    My 07 Diamondback Response 22" frame
    SRAM Attack shifters
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    Shimano Deore front derailleur
    Shimano LX 9sp cassette
    Shimano Deore hubs
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    IRC Mibro 2.1 tires
    Titec Hellbent Nemesis saddle
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndersShadow
    That is one sweet ass ride!

    Thanks. I've tried to keep it in good shape over the years. The previous owner (a good friend) made more spills in the first 2 years of ownership than I have the past 15. lol

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    I got back into the sport this spring after a too long hiatus. I bought this bike in March, and it's been alright.

    2008 Specialized Rockhopper
    • Sun Rhyno Lite Wheels with Deore Hubs
    • Avid BB-7 discs with SD-7 Levers
    • Jagwire Ripcord Cables & Housing
    • 1x8 Setup with a Blackspire Mono Veloce 34 tooth chain ring.
    • NGear Jumpstop as a chain guide
    • Old outer ring turned into a bashguard by grinding off the teeth
    • Full length rear dérailleur housing routed on the TT.
    • Shimano PD M520 pedals

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    Nice looking Rockhopper there. How are the BB7s? My bike has BB5s. I'm not planning on upgrading my brakes anytime soon, but I would like to know what they're like.

    What do you mean by "full length rear derailleur housing"? Do you mean your cables have full length housings? I was thinking that might be one of the first upgrades I make to my bike in the spring of next year.
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    I previously had this bike:

    1999 Giant Upland 19.5", stock (swapped out the pedals)

    I just traded it for this (the Giant was way to big for me):

    2001 Gary Fisher Mamba 17" Also stock (so far)... dont know if im diggin the colors... this thing may get a rattlecan sprayover in the color of my 3 year old's choosing and some ebay knockoff GF decals... well see. First thing I think is gonna be an upgrade to threadless so i can get a better fork and stem as well as flat bar with ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopping_Rocks
    Nice looking Rockhopper there. How are the BB7s? My bike has BB5s. I'm not planning on upgrading my brakes anytime soon, but I would like to know what they're like.

    What do you mean by "full length rear derailleur housing"? Do you mean your cables have full length housings? I was thinking that might be one of the first upgrades I make to my bike in the spring of next year.
    Some of the guys I ride with have BB-5s, I think the only difference is the adjusting knobs on the inside and outside pads. They were easy to install and are easier to adjust than the V-s.

    Yes, I used full length housing on the rear dérailleur cable and routed it along the top tube using the brake line guides and zip ties. When the creek gets high, it is almost up to the bottom bracket and I found mud and dirt was getting into the housing they way it is routed along the down tube.

    It's good quality cable and housing, I haven't noticed any increased friction running full length. It still shifts as crisp as an alivo dérailleur will.

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    My first bike (still have it) is a year end closeout '04 GT I-drive 2.0 I got for $800.
    Upgrades over the years include;
    Marzocchi mx comp fork 120mm
    riser bars
    shorty stem
    SRAM x7 shifters and rear der.
    Azonic magnesium pedals
    Race Face bottom bracket
    Avid juicy 3 brakes with 7 inch front rotor
    Mavic crossride wheelset
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    Continental tires

    It still going strong!

    Worked at Moab too.

    It may be getting time to upgrade to something with more travel, but until I can afford to, the GT gets hammered.
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    Ok, with most of the attention and recommendations favoring the Forge Sawback 5xx HT, I thought I'd post some pics of my Forge Sawback 7xx, 19.5 in., FS bike since nobody else has. Hopefully this can help some people make a decision on a Forge mountain bike.

    I've read that the collective "they" do not recommend a FS bike for under $1000 b/c of the lower quality components but seeing this bike in person and reading the overwhelmingly positive reviews by other owners makes it difficult to agree with that.

    While not having as high-end components overall as the 5xx, the 7xx does have a mixture of what I and others consider quality entry-level, mid-grade and higher-end components that, along with the fully adjustable FS frame, makes it worth it especially considering that the bike can be easily upgraded with 5xx components or better if need be.

    There is no mistaking this bike for a dept. store toy. Coming from a Walmart Huffy HT that I had for a decade (recently sold), I can tell you that this bike is far above and beyond. It is absolutely beautiful out of the box, the fit and finish are great and, as many owners have said in their outstanding reviews, it's got to be the best dual-disc brake, adjustable FS bike for under $400 out there! Finally seeing the bike is person, I have to agree.

    I tried to include detailed pics to illustrate what most of you would be interested in seeing (please forgive some of the blurry photos). While the frame is definitely heavier than a full tilt comp rig, take note of the reinforced/gussetted frame in several locations particularly underneath the steer tube and in front of the crank which has to make this frame very strong. Coincidentally, before installing the front tire/rim, I was surprised by how light it was. It felt like I was barely holding anything and that's with the "entry-level" Kenda tires.

    I've gotten everything adjusted preliminarily except the drivetrain which I'll test + tune during my first ride in a few days. Thanks to the info on this forum, I realized that I should properly adjust a bike to my specific physical dimensions which I did for the first time using the GREAT bike-fitting article by Peter White of Peter White cycles. Still learning so I'm taking my time. As soon as I purchase a Presta valve adapter to fill the tires it'll be ready for it's maiden voyage. I'll keep you posted and include some action shots ASAP. Pics on my "Picturetrail" album below. Enjoy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrason

    I've read that the collective "they" do not recommend a FS bike for under $1000 b/c of the lower quality components but seeing this bike in person and reading the overwhelmingly positive reviews by other owners makes it difficult to agree with that.
    I will include myself in your discription of they, since I dool out that same advise to as manny as possible. You seem to have the reasoning a bit off. I will take the liberty and speak for "they" and see if I can help you better understand. DISCLAIMER "They" may not all agree with me but most will.

    1st reason newby should not get a entry leval FS.
    Newby does not know what style of riding they like; XC, AM, DS, FR, DH, and also don't know what type of rider they are. (stand and Hammer or sit&spin) This will affect what FS design is best for you.

    2nd reason newby should not get a entry leval FS.
    Entry level bikes do not only have a lower leval componant group, but will often also have lower leval shocks front and rear, frame pivots, and hardware. Not all bikes are created equal. When we ("they") hear newby say I want FS and only have 500 to spend we cringe thinking of the feelings that we had as young riders and all the mistakes made, and wish we could reach back in time and slap the purple ano out of our hands.

    3rd reason newby should not buy entry leval FS.
    Skills. skills will compound faster on a bike with less technology designed to enhance a developed skill set. The worst thing for the sport is to get new riders on the trail, who hate there bike because it will not perform the way they expect it to, there for they stop riding or just grow to resent it.

    Finally your overwhelming reviews are mostly done by newby to FS; so you are getting reviews by riders that are affected by the reasons stated above.

    Disclaimer: If you were lucky enough to hit the magic button and none of these things affected you and your first FS bike then consider yourself lucky, don't waist your time telling me about it, because it will not change my mind. I am simply trying to explain what goes through the head of "they" when we hear I am new to this and want FS. Thanks for your time. Mark

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    Thanks for the input. Allow me to first say that I'm not a "newbie" to mountain biking in terms of riding as I have been riding one for the last 10 years albeit until recently, a Walmart, steel Huffy HT as I mentioned previously.

    I think your reasons for suggesting that newbies not get an entry level FS bike are legitimate ones and make sense primarily for those few riders who are looking to become very serious about the sport. That being said, I don't think that the vast majority of amateur, weekend-warrior riders new or old (even some who want to get serious about it) need to put that kind of time and energy into scrutinizing every minor detail like fork, shock and frame type and manufacturer in an effort to determine which bike is best for them.

    Why? Because MOST people are use to buying generic bikes from dept. stores and being happy with them for years without knowing a fraction if any of the technical info that's peppered throughout these forums. That's what I and millions like me did growing up and to make a decision on any bike with even slightly more information than what most usually go into a bike purchase with will put them ahead of the game no matter what.

    They had very little if any of that technical knowledge at their disposal when they bought those bikes yet they loved them just the same and didn't end up so unhappy with them that they stopped riding or resented the bike or sport all together as you suggested. It's a BIKE, not a house or a car.

    Therefore, to say that's much more likely to happen with an entry-level FS bike than it is with a higher-end comp. bike is a bit dramatic. Put MOST people on both and they probably couldn't tell the difference at least not enough to convince them that they must have a $1,000+ FS bike.



    Entry-level bikes obviously have lower-end components and hardware. However, I question how significant that really is to MOST riders who don't get caught up in the parts/name dropping of higher end components and bikes most of which is hype. Something that's not easy to do if we listen to the collective "they."

    I think that unless you're a professional rider who's living depends on it, what bike, fork or shock your mountain bike has doesn't make that much of a difference and changing or upgrading those parts for the sake of doing so is pointless. Should a rider find that their riding style exceeds the limitations of a bike and/or they find that they are consistently breaking parts on a regular basis while riding, then and only then does an upgrade in parts or a new, better bike make sense.

    For that reason it makes more sense to me to start out with an entry-level rig that you can either use "as is" for life, upgrade at some point or replace with something better in the future if your usage demands it. This as opposed to throwing $1000+ at a higher end bike that may be no better in terms of your particular usage and riding style. Call me crazy.


    Finally your overwhelming reviews are mostly done by newby to FS; so you are getting reviews by riders that are affected by the reasons stated above.

    I take the biggest issue with this comment as you couldn't possibly know who's buying entry-level FS bikes. There can be an infinite # of reasons but you can not assume that they are ALL newbies. I'm not, could've afforded a $1,000 bike if I chose to and none of the reviews I read mentioned that they were new riders either. In fact, one impressed owner even said that the Sawback 7xx was "almost as good as my $2000 bike!!" That's his own words from a guy who probably knows his way around higher-end mt bikes. If he already owns a $2,000 rig then he's not likely to be a newbie.

    Disclaimer: If you were lucky enough to hit the magic button and none of these things affected you and your first FS bike then consider yourself lucky, don't waist your time telling me about it, because it will not change my mind. I am simply trying to explain what goes through the head of "they" when we hear I am new to this and want FS. Thanks for your time. Mark[/QUOTE]

    And I'm simply trying to explain what goes through the head of a lot of honest, intelligent and realistic people who aren't so quick to get caught up in the hype of forums like this where the collective "they" recommend a $1000+ FS bike or no FS anything.

    While I certainly respect the knowledge of experienced riders primarily when it comes to riding, trails and general advice, I also know where to draw the line.

    As with all hobbies and interests, those most involved with them tend to sometimes get caught up in the minutia of minor details that, in reality, make little difference and are less important to the vast majority of everyone else out there who are "average joes."

    Now, while you could ultimately be correct in stating that I might not be happy with my $400 FS bike b/c the components or frame aren't top-notch, the chance of that being the only reason for my unhappiness (if I'm unhappy at all) is very slim. Extremely slim! Most people will have other, more general reasons for being unhappy about it that might be easily remedied without plunking down thousands for a full-tilt comp rig.

    Regardless, to suggest to EVERYONE shopping for a FS bike for the first time that they will probably not be happy with and therefore shouldn't purchase one that is less than $1000 is simply absurd because everyone's cycling wants and needs are different. Common sense tells me that MOST riders would be very happy with a FS bike costing less than a $1000 as long as it functioned properly and fulfilled their needs unless they had a very specific idea of what they wanted and what they were looking for beforehand. Just my opinion.

    Quote from "Mountain Biking 101" on this very forum:
    3. Don't belive the hype. Just because your favorite rider or best friend rides a certain bike, that doesn't mean that's the best one for you. Have an open mind and be realistic about your needs and ability.


    Take care,

    Mike
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    I told you not to respond, I was simply trying to give you a glimpse into the mind of someone looking into giving advise on a public forum and not knowing what is on the other side on the monitor. You have obviously put alot of effort into your responce and I applaud you for it, but you did not get the gist of what I was saying. What was tring to convey is how we "them" come to give advise. Thank you for your well thought out responce, but it was a waste of time, and you got all in an uproar for nothing, for those of up who are "them" will continue to give our same advise, and now I will get back to drinking Beer. Which by the way is the real reason to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrason
    take the biggest issue with this comment as you couldn't possibly know who's buying entry-level FS bikes. There can be an infinite # of reasons but you can not assume that they are ALL newbies. I'm not, could've afforded a $1,000 bike if I chose to and none of the reviews I read mentioned that they were new riders either. In fact, one impressed owner even said that the Sawback 7xx was "almost as good as my $2000 bike!!" That's his own words from a guy who probably knows his way around higher-end mt bikes. If he already owns a $2,000 rig then he's not likely to be a newbie.
    Nonsense. No one riding a FS bike that costs 2 grand will think your Sawback is better than their bike. A lot of component advertising is hype, yes. The average rider might not notice the difference between XT and XTR. But they (and you) WILL notice the difference between Shimano ST-EF50 shifters and Shimano Deore shifters. The components on the 7xx are very low-end. What you will find is that the shifters will constantly be of of adjustment and they won't shift cleanly. The Deore shifters of the 5xx would be much better. The fork on the 7xx is poor. A buddy of mine had the Manitou Axel and it randomly decided to iniate lock-out whenever it felt like it. Dangerous. The 5xx's Dart 1 on the other hand is much more reliable.

    You'd have been better off with a $300 bike shop hardtail - I think that before long you'll notice that things start breaking and you won't want to ride anymore. Additionally, it's worth noting that the drivetrain is 7-speed, so if you do decide to upgrade components, you'll pretty much have to do the whole thing at once. Most bike shops don't stock a lot of 7-speed stuff, to my knowledge.
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    I stumbled on the giant Forge thread here right after dusting off my $40 thrift store Haro V2 and deciding that I did in fact miss riding bikes.

    Upgrades so far are the cheap Panaracer Fire XC tires, RaceFace Evolve XC seatpost, an ancient pair of Time Atac Alium pedals I had lying around and a RaceFace Evolve XC stem added after the picture was taken.
    Besides shortening the cables and housing for the lower stem, I think I'm happy with the setup.
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    Bought this frame, cuz it was beefy and light, and started building it up. The frame is a no name brand, but the parts are a good start.

    Avid BB7 discs, s, some free ride wheels (since im a big boy), Origin 8 carbon bar, FSA stem and seat, LX components, with deore shifters, all 8 speed. Dart 2 shock, ordering either a Zoche, Reba, or a SID in the next few weeks.

    Ordered my egg beaters, origin 8 carbon post, and all my XT components.








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    that Access frame is made for and sold by performance bikes. They are sweet. I had 1 I got on clearance and rode for a while. Sold it to a buddy for $80 in new condition with some extra parts.
    If my memory serves me correctly, that frame weighs 2.8 lbs. Nice ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley
    Nonsense. No one riding a FS bike that costs 2 grand will think your Sawback is better than their bike. A lot of component advertising is hype, yes. The average rider might not notice the difference between XT and XTR. But they (and you) WILL notice the difference between Shimano ST-EF50 shifters and Shimano Deore shifters. The components on the 7xx are very low-end. What you will find is that the shifters will constantly be of of adjustment and they won't shift cleanly. The Deore shifters of the 5xx would be much better. The fork on the 7xx is poor. A buddy of mine had the Manitou Axel and it randomly decided to iniate lock-out whenever it felt like it. Dangerous. The 5xx's Dart 1 on the other hand is much more reliable.

    You'd have been better off with a $300 bike shop hardtail - I think that before long you'll notice that things start breaking and you won't want to ride anymore. Additionally, it's worth noting that the drivetrain is 7-speed, so if you do decide to upgrade components, you'll pretty much have to do the whole thing at once. Most bike shops don't stock a lot of 7-speed stuff, to my knowledge.


    Hi there,

    Thanks for the response but you didn't read my comments carefully. The impressed 7xx reviewer said that he thought that the Sawback 7xx was ALMOST as good as his $2,000 bike. Not better than, but almost as good as --- implying that the 7xx is in fact a very good bike and very close in craftmanship and quality to what I assume from the price tag must be his high-end comp bike. Unless he's secretly a Forge employee/share holder planting isolated positive reviews in obscure internet locations (highly unlikely) to drive up sales, he has no vested interest in saying so. I've included his entire review below obtained from "Target.com" which is one of many echoing similar sentiments.

    Glad to see that you agree about the exaggerated hype and the fact that most riders could not tell the difference between the minor nuances of what some make a big deal out of here. Common sense and a little intelligence drive most people to that conclusion.

    While I've been told that Deore shifters are superior, how will I tell the difference between Shimano ST-EF50 and Deore shifters if I've never used either before and compared the two???? Not one person who actually owns and uses the 7xx on this forum or who posted a review online (that I could find) complained about these entry-level shifters nor did they complain about anything regarding the Axel fork let alone that it randomly "locks out."

    ALL the components on the 7xx are "very low-end?" You might be right and know better than me but according to other 7xx owners on this forum and those who submitted reviews of the bike, the 7xx is actually composed of a mixture of entry-level ( Axel Fork, KS-291 shock), mid-grade (Shimano Acera rear derailleur for ex.) and higher end (Hays MX-2 brakes, WTB speeddisc rims and saddle) parts. Certainly not as high-end overall as the 5xx but not all around bottom of the barrel either. The 7xx owner I'm referring to who posted on this forum even went to the Shimano website, got a ranking of their sub-types and Acera was in the middle of the pack rather than at the bottom.


    You think that before long my bike is going to start breaking and I'm not going to want to ride anymore????????????? lol....Based on what? I mean, that is absolutely ridiculous! I think that's a bit over the top to say the least. You don't even know what kind of riding I do!! I think that unless you've owned and use this or any bike for an extended period of time and found, THROUGH YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, that you were breaking parts prematurely on almost every ride, these kinds of factless, cynical and negative comments should be avoided especially being a mtb club president. Wouldn't you agree?


    QUOTE FROM SAWBACK 7xx REVIEW ON TARGET.COM:
    ""Great frame, very good components, excellent service!, February 3, 2008
    Reviewer: Biking4Jesus (Brandon, MS) - See all my reviews
    I have several dept. store bikes as well as a couple of bikes from bike shops. I couldn't believe the quality of the components and the frame on this [reasonably priced] full suspension bike. It is almost as good as my $2000 bike. I haven't seen any other bikes in this price range with front and rear disk brakes and adjustable shocks. The wheels, seat, seatpost, stem, and bar are all top quality brands or copies. The drivetrain is mid-range Shimano and could be upgraded for serious off-road ridiing. Unlike most dept. store dualies, the Forge can be riden hard on just about any trail. It would be nice to have a water bottle cage, but I usually use a hydration pack offroad anyway.
    I was really impressed with Forge's service. I got my bike at a salvage store, so I knew it was damaged. Other than cosmetic damage, the main problem was a bent brake rotor. I couldn't quite get it flattened, so I called Forge. They sent me a new rotor right away, and I haven't had any problems since. Great frame, very good components, excellent service!""
    - Conrad




    Call me crazy but this sounds like an honest review from a guy who knows his way around mountain bikes. It's difficult to ignore the many 7xx reviews like this, no?
    Take care,

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    Here's my entry level bike I have been and am still working on.
    ’97 Cannondale Killer V900HT


    Frame: Killer V900HT
    Fork: dd60 headshok
    Brakes: Tektro V brakes and levers
    Cranks: Coda 300
    Front Derailleur: Deore Lx
    Front Shifter: Deore XT M739
    Rear Shifter: Gripshift srt-800
    Rear Derailleur: Alivio m410
    Pedals: shimano pd-m515
    Stem: Coda Headshok
    Handlebar: Dirt Research bars
    Seatpost: kalloy sp-263b cut 100mm shorter
    Saddle: Cannondale f4 saddle
    Bottom Bracket:
    Cassette: Nashbar 7spd
    Headset: Headshok
    Grips: gripshift grips
    Tires: Schwinn Carbon steel ATB
    Wheels: cheapy front, rear Acera X hub unknown wheel
    Cheap cup and cone Bottom Bracket.
    Serfas s1 computer
    Weight: 27lbs.

    Upgrades to come after Christmas:
    Fatty Ultra disc fork.
    Avid bb7 mech front disk
    Ryno lite wheels with shimano deore hubs
    BBG bashguard
    Inner chain guide.


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    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann
    that Access frame is made for and sold by performance bikes. They are sweet. I had 1 I got on clearance and rode for a while. Sold it to a buddy for $80 in new condition with some extra parts.
    If my memory serves me correctly, that frame weighs 2.8 lbs. Nice ride.
    thank you for the info! I didnt know that.

    Took it out on its maiden voyage today... found out that i need a beefier headset and seatpost. Switching the post to a Raceface downhill model.

    Keep in mind i am 6'4" 280... im a big boy.
    But other than that, not so much as a squibble out of the frame. I am super excited!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrason


    ALL the components on the 7xx are "very low-end?" You might be right and know better than me but according to other 7xx owners on this forum and those who submitted reviews of the bike, the 7xx is actually composed of a mixture of entry-level ( Axel Fork, KS-291 shock), mid-grade (Shimano Acera rear derailleur for ex.) and higher end (Hays MX-2 brakes, WTB speeddisc rims and saddle) parts. Certainly not as high-end overall as the 5xx but not all around bottom of the barrel either. The 7xx owner I'm referring to who posted on this forum even went to the Shimano website, got a ranking of their sub-types and Acera was in the middle of the pack rather than at the bottom.
    Well, really, I hope you enjoy the bike. You've been defending the 7xx for quite awhile now. However, I've gotta agree with the others that have doubted the value of the 7xx. The components are all pretty much low-end. The Shimano Acera is definitely not mid-grade. When it comes to Shimano stuff, it goes (from low to high) :

    SIS (real junk)
    ALTUS
    ACERA
    ALIVO
    DEORE
    DEORE LX
    DEORE XT
    DEORE XTR

    Acera is pretty much at the low end. In fact, most people stray away from anything below Alivo for mountain bike trails, as Alivo is right at the beginning of Shimano's product line for specific mountain bike usage. Ask any bike shop and any bike tech, and they'll let you know that SIS/Acera/Altus components are primarily used for commuter bikes and light trail bikes, not mountain bikes. Trust me, I did my research and didn't even believe it/understand it at first. But you start checking really low end bikes, you and see that Altus and Acera pop up everywhere. Companies dump these products onto mountain bike frames because it's the cheapest route, not necessarily because it's matched for real xc/singletrack usage.

    I also have to disagree with your comment about the brakes. The MX-2 brakes are in no way high end. Compare the MX-2 to the rest of Hayes products. In fact, not too many people even seem to enjoy any of Haye's disc brakes products. They tend to produce lower quality disc's than other companies in the field. Calling the MX-2 a "high end" component is a bit of a stretch. I could maybe take it as a mid-level component, but high end? Yeeesh...I just can't buy that, especially when you compare it to other mechanical brakes.

    You can try and lump in the WTB rims and saddle as high end, but these parts are some of the most non-essential components on a bike. Anyone can put up with a junky saddle and maybe less-than-great rims. But settling for really low-end drivetrain parts is just asking for more spent money down the line. Again, it all depends on your use. But if I were hitting any intermediate trails, I'd make sure that at the very least, my fork and drivetrain could handle it for quite awhile, thus saving me headaches and money later, while providing me with an undeniably better ride quality. I'm still questioning how long the 7xx will last before stuff begins to wear out and break.

    Is it better than almost any department store bike? Sure, I could definitely see it. Is it better than other intro FS bikes? I'm gonna doubt that. Especially in the used market. And if FS is absolutely important to someone, then they might just want to either a.) go used or b.) save money for a complete package. For the same price of that 7xx, you can go hard-tail and get better components via the 5xx. That isn't even debatable. And if you are a beginner, is it really necessary to go FS?

    It could just be different strokes for different folks, but I know that if I friend were to ask my opinion on what to buy, I'd tell them get the hard-tail with better components, as it will undeniably have a lower risk of broken parts down the line, which should lead to a better enjoyment of the trails.

    Again, I really do hope you enjoy the 7xx, but I've also got to keep in mind that I remember you defending the bike before you even bought it. Give us a run-down when you put some good abuse on it. I really do hope that it is the killer deal for intro FS, because I like the Forge company and what they're doing.

    Best of luck

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    Here's mine, brand new with only 91km's on it (2 or 3 days of riding). It was regular $829 Cnd. on sale for $699 since it's a leftover 2008. I've read mixed reviews on here, but it seems to work really good for me since I've never rode anything good before. I'm 5'11 and about 140lbs, not doing any serious downhill riding or anything so I think it should hold up fine for me.








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    [QUOTE=holycrikey]Well, really, I hope you enjoy the bike. You've been defending the 7xx for quite awhile now. However, I've gotta agree with the others that have doubted the value of the 7xx. The components are all pretty much low-end. The Shimano Acera is definitely not mid-grade. When it comes to Shimano stuff, it goes (from low to high) :

    "I also have to disagree with your comment about the brakes. The MX-2 brakes are in no way high end......Calling the MX-2 a "high end" component is a bit of a stretch. I could maybe take it as a mid-level component, but high end?"

    Well, you'd actually be primarily disagreeing with the other 7xx owner who supposedly did his Shimano research and posted those comments. I don't care either way b/c I don't buy into the name-dropping hype and am not going to waste my valuable time scrutinizing the Shimano website. Makes no difference to me, and besides, my exact words were "higher end" not high end. There's a clear difference between the two. The other guy mis-quoted me too.


    "Again, it all depends on your use."

    Exactly, which is a point I made in my last post. It depends on a rider's use so for anyone to automatically dismiss an entry-level FS bike as low-end garbage and claim that it will surely break without knowing how it will be used or even owning one themselves is simply absurd. I could say the same thing about somebody's $1500 bike vs one costing $4000 and be correct in saying that the $1500 bike has a greater chance of wearing out and breaking. We can take that slippery-slope argument to the stratosphere if you want.


    "I'm still questioning how long the 7xx will last before stuff begins to wear out and break."

    Funny, b/c I bashed around on a Walmart Huffy HT for years and never broke a thing but all of a sudden, in your eyes, the clearly-superior 7xx is made of tissue paper and will surely wear out and break in no time?????????????????? I guess I'm lucky that I didn't defend my Huffy in here. God knows what you guys would've done to me. lol

    "For the same price of that 7xx, you can go hard-tail and get better components via the 5xx. That isn't even debatable."

    Nobody's denying that. I've even acknowledge that in one of my posts which makes me objective and realistic about this discussion. However, put identical riders on identical trails, one on a 7xx and one on a 5xx, and my money is on the 7xx getting that rider through that trail quicker and smoother b/c of it's FS frame. Why do I say that?? Because, IMO the mere presence of the 7xx's entry-level but adjustable rear shock/FS frame matters MORE than the 5xx's superior Deore shifters (for ex.) when the rubber actually meets the OFF-road.


    "It could just be different strokes for different folks, but I know that if I friend were to ask my opinion on what to buy, I'd tell them get the hard-tail with better components, as it will undeniably have a lower risk of broken parts down the line, which should lead to a better enjoyment of the trails."

    Boy, I would sure love to meet these people who's low-end bike components have broken soooo often that they are miserably unhappy about not buying a more expensive bike with better components. They must be hard-core to be breaking that much stuff all the time. Common sense tells me and most people that the breakage of any parts on any bike on a REGULAR BASIS due to inferior components/frame as opposed to freak accidents is a very rare occurence unless a rider is clearly exceeding the limitations of the bike and even then most bikes will hold up for a decent amount of time.

    "Again, I really do hope you enjoy the 7xx, but I've also got to keep in mind that I remember you defending the bike before you even bought it. Give us a run-down when you put some good abuse on it."

    Oh, I'm sure I'll enjoy it and I'll keep in mind that alot of name-dropping, component-obscessed riders in here who have NO EXPERIENCE with the 7xx are very quick to dismiss it based on nothing more than reading a component list despite overwhelmingly positive reviews from riders who actually own one. It doesn't say much for those people but I hope that you're all equal-opportunity bashers and are dishing out these negative opinions to every entry-level bike owner in here. If not, your anti-7xx comments could be viewed as biased.

    You want MY run down after I abuse the bike?? That's funny b/c the "run-down" by current 7xx owners all over the internet and in this forum who ACTUALLY OWN AND ABUSE THE BIKE and have done so a lot longer than I have has been nothing but positive. They all have great things to say about it. I guess their opinions don't count or don't you believe them??!! Have no fear though b/c as soon as I blow by a 5xx and/or a $1000+ comp. rig on the trail I'll let you know if my 7xx broke doing it.

    How about this: why don't you all reserve your judgement and instead allow those who actually own and use a bike and are therefore uniquely qualified to pass judgement on it do so. Man, I should really run for President.

    Take care
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    First post.

    Raleigh Mojave 8.0:




    Raleigh Mojave 8.0

    Upgrades:
    the seat from WTB Speed V (ouch) to a nice comfy Giant Unity.
    the pedals from some cheap (plastic center) cage pedals to Transition Bike Stepdown Pedals.
    the grips from the Raleigh branded "dual density" (super thin) to the OD Rogue Lock-on.



    Other than that, I bought a Camelbak and absolutely love it for those long rides.

    Now that the upgrade bug has been satisfied, I just enjoy riding my bike.



    Back to lurking,
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    Quote Originally Posted by 350Rocket
    Here's mine, brand new with only 91km's on it (2 or 3 days of riding). It was regular $829 Cnd. on sale for $699 since it's a leftover 2008. I've read mixed reviews on here, but it seems to work really good for me since I've never rode anything good before. I'm 5'11 and about 140lbs, not doing any serious downhill riding or anything so I think it should hold up fine for me.







    Nice bike. I like it. But please lose the kickstand. That thing is bad news waiting to happen.

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    specialized hardrock comp disc 08
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    i baught it a couple of moths ago on special for $679 australian
    ive so far found it to b one of the best hardtails ive ever ridden
    stock componants:
    avid bb5 disc brakes
    sr suntour forks
    sr suntour cranks
    shimano bottom bracket
    wellgo pedals
    and the list go's on.

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    ive so far added these upgrades:
    titan headstem
    bullet valve caps (must haves XD)
    syncros bht 1 26x2.7 rear tyre (on the front for insane look)

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    ^^Both really nice looking bikes :-)
    I didn't even realize that nobody else was leaving the kickstand on. I don't do real serious off road riding yet so not sure if it will be an issue for me. I'm not used to having to find something to lean it up against. I'll probably be sleeping and it'll fall on me and my girlfriend will get jealous. lol. I keep it nearby at night in the appt until the novelty of the new bike wears off.

    This was a lot of $$ for me to spend, anything higher than an entry level bike would have been out of the question for me, so I'll have to wait on upgrades until stuff starts to get worn out a bit. At least it has somewhat lower level components (Altus front derailleur, Deore rear, ST-EF60 shifters, etc.) making it more possible to do upgrades in the future. I don't tend to wear bikes out fast so it should take a while.

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    2008 Specialized HRXC

    Added shimano clipless pedals, new avid brake levels(big difference), rapid fire shifters(grip shifters blew), Specialized lock on grips The levers, grips, and shifters not pictured.

    Next is a wheelset, dt spokes, hope hubs, xc 717 rims

    pretty much upgrading the parts time to time, no rush, and then transfering everything over to a damn good frame.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 350Rocket
    I didn't even realize that nobody else was leaving the kickstand on.
    I didn't know bikes still came with kickstands.

    You say you haven't done any serious offroad? Do some!!! It's a blast! I've been at this for just over a month and have ridden 4 trails so far.

    -Bemis

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    Well I just did some offroading today. Mainly backroads cruising until I found little rutted trails to ride on, and also some rocky hills to fly up and down. I tried to jump off of every rock and rough spot I could find. Yes it was a blast. But I guess when I said serious offroading I was thinking of jumps 6feet or more in the air, or flying down a rocky hill at 40mph+.

    Now that I'm actually using it offroad I'm already starting to think of the parts I'm going to wear out first and upgrades to make. First thing is in the spring I'll take the kickstand off. Not much riding left this year and I'll have it sitting in the appt on the kickstand all winter anyways. Front derailleur (Altus) I'll probably wear out first since they aren't the best from what I read. Maybe the pedals I'll replace soon after that, gave them some bashes on rocks already today. Who knows after that. Long term I may upgrade from 8 speed to 9 or 10 speed on the back for higher speed down long steep downhills on the road. My ass is pretty sore today, so a better seat or gel seat cover is going to be needed soon. Also a good headlight since if I get into good enough shape I'll be trying to make the 84km round trip to work every day which is going to be pitch black the whole 2hr ride in the morning.

    Another cool thing today was I met another Rocky Mountain owner today, who used to be a customer of mine when I was the service advisor at the Saturn dealership and now he makes deliveries to my work for the trucking company he works for. I didn't even know he was into biking, just saw him and stopped to say hi and he said he had the same brand of bike at home. Now I might have someone to ride with next summer.

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    Forge Sawback 7xx initial run down

    Ok, so I got most of the 7xx adjusted and took it for a quick ride down the street and back a few days ago. I was on my way out so I didn't have time to shift through all the gears but the bike felt really smooth and the suspension was extremely soft. I have it set for the most travel and rebound and it was like riding on a cushion of air when I was bouncing on the pedals. It's probably a little soft for off-road use so I need to set the sag and gears and then it'll be ready for some off-road tests. I'll keep you posted.

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    Welp, here is my first mountain bike. 2006 Giant Pistol 1. It was a demo bike for one season, then I scooped it up. Other than some small scratches and dings, it's in great shape. Got it at a killer price. Should do me well for awhile until I decide to step up to something a bit better.

    I was about the pull the trigger on a Forge 5xx, but I'm thankful that I found this. Way better components for an even better price. I love finding stuff used!!





    Thoughts?

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    Crikey:

    Congrats on the new bike! I was following your thread over on nasioc, believe it or not. Glad you found a good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MATT0404
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    Congrats on the new bike! I was following your thread over on nasioc, believe it or not. Glad you found a good deal.
    Haha, awesome! Always good to hear from NASIOC members!

    Still trying to figure out the adjustments on the deraileurs.. sigh.

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    Congratulations on the ride, Holycrikey. You ended up with a nice bike there. Looks like you can find a good deal if you are willing to put the time in. Maybe try picking up a MTN bike maintenance book for the derailleurs(heard zinns' book is good). Either that or Youtube and parktool are very helpful.

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    I've gone almost 200km's now (over 120 miles) since I bought my bike a couple weeks ago and my shifting hasn't given me any problems yet. Since they said I'd have to bring it back within the first couple weeks or so for adjustment, I was planning on getting it to the bike shop for a free adjustment after break in but it doesn't seem to be happening. The snow will be flying pretty soon and I guess I won't be getting any adjustments done until at least spring by the looks of it.

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    my steed

    I've had my 2008 Ibex Alpine 650 ( hardtail ) for ~ 1year now. *** It's been great and I've updgraded " just cuz" with the exception of the wheels I got yesterday because I bent my front on a jump ( my version of one anyway and I told my wife that " it just made no sense to only buy 1 wheel and brake levers ( broke 1 but bought 2 for same reason - see a pattern? )

    Upgrades to date:
    * Panaracer Fire XC Pro tires
    * Cane Creek Thudbuster suspension seatpost( $75 from owner of LBS )
    * Oury grips
    * Mavic 717 rims w/ XT hubs
    * Shimano DX clipless pedals ( I think they're M646, maybe 647, something like that )
    * $5 stem I bought at a swap meet ( 90mm versus the 115mm that came with it )
    * Avid SpeedDial brake levers

    ***After purchase I read with dismay some of the 'issues' surrounding Ibex but I've been happy. I simply don't have the $$ to make a statement with my purchases - just bought what I thought was as much bike as I could get for my limited dollars. If I had the money to buy LBS then I wouldn't be talking about my entry level bike. Ha

    This mountain biking thing surely is a passion/obsession/just plain fun thing. I'm not much of a mechanical, tinkerer type but I could be out in my garage or on these boards or looking at magazines all day.

    Peace and happy trails.

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    I roll on a Warrior Disc. Here is what I did.
    1. Shimano Deore LX long cage rear derailer.
    2. Shimano Deore LX front derailer.
    3. Shimano Deore LX trigger shifters.
    4. Avid TI adjustable brake levers.
    5. FSA Carbon Kforce riser bars.
    6. FSA Carbon SLK seatpost.
    7. Q2 Carbon Stem.
    8. Cane Creek S2 headset.
    9. Rockshox Tora 302SL 100mm forks.
    10. Sram Chain and 9 speed Cassette.
    11. WTB Speed V Comp Saddle.
    12. Panaracer Fire XC Pro tires.
    Most of the parts were purchased on [email protected] and the rest from various online retailers.




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    I just received my Motobecane Fantom Trail today

    No upgrades yet, but I'll be getting a computer and new peddles tomorrow.







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    Quote Originally Posted by musky
    Magura Menja fokr
    Avid BB7's front and rear
    Avid Speed Dial Ti levers
    Wellgo B37's
    Sram X-7 shifters
    Funn Fatboy bar
    How is that entry level?

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    Here is my 2006 Marin Attack Trail
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    Quote Originally Posted by D1PHAM
    Here is my 2006 Marin Attack Trail
    Nice Marin.

    I have GOT to stop looking at FS bikes! HAHAHA! I think for my 1 year mark I'll drop around 3 grand on something fancy.

    -Bemis

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    Got her finished about 2 weeks ago. Started with an upgraded Schwinn that a friend built me to give this a try. Loved it right from the start and began building this bike right away. I've been riding a little less than 3 months now.

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    I have a RMB Fusion in 15in. Its a pretty good comuter as i havent hardly used the 3 chainring yet and can still average 13mph on a 30mile ride with a lot of hills. I dont have pictures of it yet as i have been to busy riding it. I just got it 4 days ago and have rode it for 30miles each day off and on road and havent noticed anything wrong with it yet. I'm I the only one on here with a RMB fusion? All the RMB i see are FS not XC.

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    look at the bottom of page 1. I have a Rocky Mountain Fusion.

    Also just because a bike is FS doesn't mean it isn't XC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dana109
    look at the bottom of page 1. I have a Rocky Mountain Fusion.

    Also just because a bike is FS doesn't mean it isn't XC.
    Have you had any problems with the components on it? I heard that the BB is worthless after a month or two. I was wondering what kind of riding will it stand up to
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    I've ridden it around 3-5 days a week since June. I ride a lot of rooty single track. It isn't a downhill bike. But for XC it is a solid bike. I haven't had any problems except with the wheels coming out of true. But the shop took care of that with a tune up.

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    Thanks for answers i just wanted to find out before something went wrong and I didnt have a part.

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    Here's my 2006 Marin Northside Trail I just recently bought from a LBS for $430 out the door. It was new old stock that they had, never ridden. It's completely stock for now but as shown in the picture, I have a M961 XTR front derailer, Race Face Evolve crankset and XTR brake cables. As of this morning, I just ordered an XT rear derailer. Piece by piece i'm going to can the stock components.



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    Here is my 06 Marin Bobcat Trail all stock except the seat. I upgraded to a WTB Power V seat.
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    Here's my '08 Gary Fisher Tassajara. This was my first new bike after my last bike was stolen more than 10 years ago. I thought about getting a FS but didn't want to drop too much $ and figured I'd get a decent hardtail instead. Cost $899

    Upgrades so far:

    WTB Pure V Saddle (stock Bontrager was a torture device)
    WTB Velociraptor Tires (stock Bontrager Jones just didn't cut it in the loose stuff around here)
    XT rear derailleur (busted the original LX)
    Ergon Grips (help with the numbness)
    Red Salsa Skewers (Mainly because the stock Shimanos were a pain, they didn't clear the shock on the lever side. Plus these look purty)
    Crank Brothers Mallet C Pedals (gotta go clipless)
    Rockshox Reba Team (This was a warranty replacement after the stock Toras blew out. I'm certainly not complaining)
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    Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come

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    Just made a purchase today. 2008 Giant Rincon


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    I love the look of that rincon. You can't go wrong with OD green and flat black

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    I know. It's part of the reason I liked it. I saw the 2009 model and was like no way. It looks like every other bike and the components were the same. I love the design of the frame and color is like icing on the cake I cant wait to get it dirty.

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    that's a pretty sweet looking paint job! Almost looks army!
    It's easy to make a buck, it's much harder to make a difference."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerkid
    I know. It's part of the reason I liked it. I saw the 2009 model and was like no way. It looks like every other bike and the components were the same. I love the design of the frame and color is like icing on the cake I cant wait to get it dirty.
    I dig that bike. How much did it set you back if you don't mind me asking.

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    ^^^

    Very nice Rincon! I love that flat olive green! Awesome color.

    I'd just ditch the reflectors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbsigman
    I dig that bike. How much did it set you back if you don't mind me asking.
    It set me back $420 and he threw in a free water bottle.lol

    Quote Originally Posted by holycrikey
    ^^^

    Very nice Rincon! I love that flat olive green! Awesome color.

    I'd just ditch the reflectors
    Thank you sir. I rode it to the the pole to go vote today and she rides nice.Yeah I already took off the front and rear ones but I cant get the ones in the spokes out w/o scratching the finish in the spokes.

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    there should be little white "screws" on the reflector. Just turn those woth a regular screwdriver and the reflector should slide down and you can pull it out.

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    Got it. Thanks dude.

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    my contribution

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    My daughter's Hardrock.



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    Here is my Iron Horse Quantum II




    Parts List:
    Rock Shox Dart 1 Fork
    Hayes MX4 Disc Brakes
    Truvativ X-Flow Crank
    Shimano Acera Rear Derailer
    WTB Speed V Saddle

    Future Upgrades:
    Wellgo MG-1 Pedals
    WTB Velociraptor 2.1 Tires
    Race Face Next XC Handlebars
    Avid BB7 Brake upgrade
    Rock Shox Recon Fork
    Last edited by preludedriven; 11-11-2008 at 01:18 AM.

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    Small upgrades from stock...

    Race Face Evolve longer Steam
    Ritchey Comp Seat post
    DMR V8 pedals White
    Panaracer FireXC
    Selle Italia saddle.

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    stoo61 - which saddle is that? ^
    '08 Specialized Rockhopper 29er (modified)

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    Here is my Motobecane Fantom Comp DS start it on 32.5 lbs, on the first pic i already upgraded crankset and wheelset to shimano Deore and Vuelta XRP Team SL and Saddle with Selle Italia Onda , then i upgraded handlebar with Easton Monkey Lite SL, Headset with Cane Creek S-8, Cassette with Shimano XT, Saddle again with Nashbar Race 190 gr. , Front Suspension with Rock shox Reba Team U-turn, Pushloc and now the bike weight 28 lbs , i'm very happy with the performance of this bike and i will onlu upgrade again as is need it



    Actual Bike Set Up

    Frame TripleActive 4B, 3"/4"/5" Travel - Four Bar Rocker Arm. Gussetted SL 7005 Aluminum (Disc Brake Equipped) SuperSmooth Sealed Cartridge Bearings at critical pivots, replaceable rear derailleur hanger

    Fork/Rear Shock RockShox REBA TEAM WITH UTURN ADJUSTABLE TRAVEL (85-115MM) TurnKey LOCKOUT COMPRESSION and PUSHLOC /Rockshox Ario 2.2 Air with Rebound and LOCKOUT

    Crankset Shimano Deore Hollowtech

    Bottom Bracket Shimano Deore

    Pedals Plataform witth toe clips

    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore LX

    Rear Derailleur Shimano XT long cage

    Shifters Shimano Deore LX Rapid Fire 27 speed trigger shift

    Cassette/Freewheel Shimano XT cs-750

    Chain Z9000 super narrow 9 speed

    Hubs Vuelta forged alloy with high flanged hubs with CNC machined 6 bolt rotor mounts

    Spokes 2.2mm stainless bladed Count: Front: 28 Rear: 28 Lacing: 3 cross Nipple: Brass CP Finish

    Rims XRP Vuelta Team SL

    Tires/Tubes Panaracer FireXC PRO 26x2.1 / Presta Valve

    Brakes Avid Juicy 3 Hydraulic Disc front and rear, 160mm rotor

    Brake Levers Avid Juicy 3 Hydraulic

    Headset Cane Creek S-8

    Handlebar Easton Monkey Lite SL Riser Bar

    Stem Ritchey Comp Aluminum threadless

    Tape/Grip WTB DualCompound

    Saddle Nashbar Race Saddle 190 gr.

    Seat Post Ritchey Comp Mountain 31.6mm aluminum

    Seat Post Clamp Super Light Aluminum

    Size Small 42c

    Color GlossBlack
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    well on the las pic instead of the first pic i mean it, i uploaded the pics in wrong orther

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    Here is my ride: a Trek 4300. Got is used in good condition for a great price.

    Upgrades:
    LX cranks, derailleurs, and cassette
    XT shifters
    Mavic XC 717 wheels with XT hubs
    Avid BB7 disc brakes
    WTB Motoraptors
    Crank Bros Mallet C pedals
    WTB Speed V saddle
    Sigma computer



    A couple of things I've learned. If you are sure you want to be riding for a long time, save the necessary funds to get what you want at the start. The wait will kill you but will be more efficient. If on the other hand, you are just wanting to try it out then get the best used bike you can afford. When you are hooked you can then decide if you want to upgrade by bargain shopping like I did or if you are going to want/need more bike (I don't), in which case just ride what you've got until you get the necessary funds for your next bike. I probably should have listened to this advice from the outset...but I wanted a bike right then

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    Here's mine....


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    Quote Originally Posted by flipside
    Here's mine....

    Where did you get those bar end caps?

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    '09 Fisher Wahoo Disc

    My first post on MTBR!

    Here's my recent purchase. So new it still has the reflectors on!




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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndtime04gt
    Where did you get those bar end caps?
    I got them from Purely Custom

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerohnine
    My first post on MTBR!

    Tip of the week: rubber side goes down.

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    La Goose

    There are some good looking bikes posted.

    Here is a real entry level bike - 01 Wallyworld Mongoose. Good for kicking it around the yard or the occasional street ride. It wouldn't hold up on trails.

    Upgrades: Those $7 Forte slicks.
    Last edited by rlouder; 01-26-2011 at 06:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopping_Rocks
    stoo61 - which saddle is that? ^
    All I can really tell you is what it says on it. San Marco, pretty sure its Selle Itallia too....I haven't got it just now, loaned it to someone.

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    My Warrior 3.5 taken minutes after purchase!!

    Brakes: Avid BB-5 w/ 160mm rotor
    Levers: Avid FR-5
    Frame: Double Butted Aluminum Hardtail
    Bottom Bracket: FSA
    Crankset: FSA Gamma, 42/32/22T Alloy
    Seatpost: FSA SL-280
    Stem: FSA ST-OS-190LX
    Handlebar: FSA XC-282A-OS, 18mm rise
    Wheelset: Hubs: Alloy Disc, 32H; Rim: WTB SX-24, 32H w/ eyelets
    Chain: KMC HG-73
    Fork: Marzocchi Race, 100mm travel
    Rear Shock: NA
    Pedals: Shimano M505 Clipless
    Cassette: SRAM PG-950, 11/34T, 9-speed
    Shifters: SRAM SX5 Triggers
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.7
    Front Derailleur: SRAM X.7, low clamp
    Saddle: WTB Pure V Sport
    Grips/Tape: WTB Technical Trail Grip
    Tires: WTB Weirwolf 26 x 2.1
    Headset: Zero Stack


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    Last edited by mschwab82; 11-07-2008 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroverTheClover
    Here's my IH Maverick 5.0.

    F&R Avid BB7
    Avid Full Metal Jacket
    Avid SpeedDial 7
    Panaracer XC Fire Pro

    Nice job on the upgrade list... I'm now actually thinking about getting the Panaracer's instead of the WTB Velociraptor's.

    BTW I regret everyday not choosing the Maverick 5.0 (got my Quantum II for the same price)...that green is sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrix
    This is my daily ride. I love it more than the other bikes simply because it's been with me the longest and has spent more time with me than any other bike.



    Rock Shox Dart 2 front shock, Alex DH 20 rim up front, Mavic X317 in the rear, Bontrager Jones XR tires (I find the give me a good balance since this bike is used really only for commuting and for long trail rides on paved surfaces or hardpack with minimal need for high grip in the corners)

    I will never EVER part with it.

    Oh and her name is Sweaty Betty.

    I have the same bike and I use it as a daily commuter with occasional trail use although I have not named her as you have. ( If anything thing, its a "Beast" )

    Current upgrades:

    Specialized Bar Ends
    Crankbrothers Smarty Pedals
    Avid 160mm Rotors ( they just look cool!! )
    Mavic Crossride Rims
    Shimano Deore Rr Der (broke the stock one)
    Bontrager Flat Bar w/ Easton EA70 Aluminum

    And I agree with you, I will NEVER get rid of it, I bought it brand new and it has been through hell and back and keeps on ticking every time.
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    Always remember, "Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body."

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    07 Cannondale F3:

    FSA V-drive Crankset

    SRAM Powerglide II PG-980 cassette

    CrankBros Eggbeater

    Panaracer Fire XC Pro tires

    Forte Classic saddle


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