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    Would this headset fit the Spitfire?

    Talked a friend into pulling the trigger on a Spitfire, but now we're having problems finding a suitable headset to buy, online. I was wondering if this would fit the frame?

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=41911

    It's the Gravity DX ZS headset.

    Would really appreciate any help we could get.

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    Info is in the blog: http://bansheebikes.blogspot.com/search/label/Spitfire

    Drop n Zone guys ordered/installed the Cane Creek ones for me.

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    CRC isn't working for me but if its the same as this
    DX Pro 1-1/8" ZS top/1.5" std lower cup (http://www.treefortbikes.com/98_3332...lower-cup.html)

    then it looks like it'd work fine.

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    Sorry, I forgot to mention that the fork has a 1 1/8 steerer. The DX Pro is for a tapered steerer, yes?

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    Yes the DX Pro is for a tapered steerer. You can find out if you can run a different crown race for it to allow you to run a 1 1/8 fork on it. I'd check with FSA/Gravity to see if they have them or if there are parts you can buy to adapt it to fit.

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    Just remember if your running a 160mm fork your gonna want to go flush on the lower to keep the geometry in check.

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    Here's the specs of the headset I linked to -
    Features:
    • 1-1/8",36° / 45° ACB
    For tapered 55mm/57mm OD headtube
    For 1-1/8" steerer
    • Alloy upper cup with Angular Contact Bearings (Blue seal)
    • Forged alloy lower cup with 1.5" Angular Contact Bearings (Black seal)
    • Stack Height 6.3+13.4=19.7mm

    I'm really sorry, but I can't make heads, or tails of the specs listed on the Banshee blog, regarding the Cane Creek headsets. I'd also rather not get the Cane Creeks, they're going to be a little expensive once shipping is added(I'm not from America).

    Can anybody help with the linked headset?

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    this is the setup from cane creek if running 160mm fork with flush mount lower

    http://canecreek.com/component-heads...tapered-110-ZS

    if running external lower cup 1 1/8" for both options

    http://canecreek.com/component-heads...tapered-110-ZS


    don't know any one else with the setup needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanbeegas
    Can anybody help with the linked headset?
    What fork will you be using? 140mm? 150mm? 160mm? Regular 1 1/8" steerer tube? Or fork with tapered steerer tube?

    Headset selection depends on all those factors.

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    I'm sorry, I must have forgot to mention. The fork is a 32 Talas(140mm) with a 1 1/8 steerer tube.
    What I'm confused about, are the listed diameters.

    Headset specs - 55/57mm OD head tube.

    Banshee listed specs - 44/49.1mm - is this internal, or outer dimensions, does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanbeegas
    I'm sorry, I must have forgot to mention. The fork is a 32 Talas(140mm) with a 1 1/8 steerer tube.
    What I'm confused about, are the listed diameters.

    Headset specs - 55/57mm OD head tube.

    Banshee listed specs - 44/49.1mm - is this internal, or outer dimensions, does it matter?
    44/49.1mm are the upper and lower diameters (inner) of the head tube.

    Try to have your shop order the Cane Creek headsets that come in a set. These are listed in US catalogs, so should appear overseas as well.

    If you want to order online and can't find these sets, you will have to order 2 headsets, and take the appropriate one from each set. For example, if you want to order from CRC:

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=35225

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=35219

    Someone correct me if I am wrong, as I have been typing all day, and a little light-headed.

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    Instead of the Cane Creek 110.ZS for the upper, you can use the S3.ZS which is much cheaper.

    http://www.canecreek.com/component-h...t=tapered-ZS-3

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanbeegas
    I'm sorry, I must have forgot to mention. The fork is a 32 Talas(140mm) with a 1 1/8 steerer tube.
    What I'm confused about, are the listed diameters.

    Headset specs - 55/57mm OD head tube.

    Banshee listed specs - 44/49.1mm - is this internal, or outer dimensions, does it matter?
    Specs are Internal on the Banshee site


    •Upper 1-1/8" ZS assembly: Zero Stack semi-integrated cup, premium 36/45 degree angular contact cartridge bearing (44mm upper headtube ID)
    •Lower 1.5" assembly: traditional (external) 1.5" cup with sealed cartridge bearing (50mm lower headtube ID)
    These are the specs for the Gravity DX,so it looks like it should work according to the Banshee specs.
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    Thanks for the replies everyone. Just placed the order with CRC and my friend's put down a deposit for his frame.

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    If anyone's interested, the headset, I bought, fits.

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    hello boys, one question about headsets in spitfires:
    itīs possible to run with a 160 fork 1-1/8" with a external cups (not ZS) and steep angle? itīs sound like a 160mm with a ZS headset with dh angle.

    how do you think about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramonet
    hello boys, one question about headsets in spitfires:
    itīs possible to run with a 160 fork 1-1/8" with a external cups (not ZS) and steep angle? itīs sound like a 160mm with a ZS headset with dh angle.

    how do you think about this?
    Bottom bracket will be about 14.2in with reasonable tires but if that's not a problem for you, I don't see why not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramonet
    hello boys, one question about headsets in spitfires:
    itīs possible to run with a 160 fork 1-1/8" with a external cups (not ZS) and steep angle? itīs sound like a 160mm with a ZS headset with dh angle.

    how do you think about this?
    I don't know how I think about it, my mind just sort of thinks and then produces a thought.
    But what I think about it is that like nybike mentioned you're putting the BB in a very precarious situation there.

    The Spitfire's a low and fast bike. All you're doing with this e-scenario is putting heels on the petite girl and trying to pass her off as the hot member of the volleyball team when everyone knows she's still the fast little track star who's not very good at swatting balls away.

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    I run a Fox Float 36 and external headset, with shock in low/slack mode. This bike still goes up and down awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d
    I run a Fox Float 36 and external headset, with shock in low/slack mode. This bike still goes up and down awesome!
    How is your seat angle?

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    Also, why not use the Banshee Munro headset?? It comes with 2 fork crowns: tapered steerer 1.5 and standard 1 1/8. The lower cup is basically a CK Devolution and the upper cup looks as good quality as Chris King too. The bonus is that you get a top cap with the Banshee on it! Looks tough.

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