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    Banshee Titan LT 29er 2020

    Wow, so after all the IG-fuzz here it is, the bike I have been waiting for 2 years!!

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    It is interesting, and I'd like a chance to demo one. A LT Prime was on my wishlist for a while now. Some aspects I like and others I'll need to warm up to.

    The rear triangle looks like a Giant Reign, albeit with adjustable dropouts.
    And does the trunnion mount mean the shock gets more exposed to side loads? I'm not an engineer so am genuinely asking.

    Either way, they've been busy!

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    If someone could build this up with a 180mm front fork and a coil... and tell me how sweet it is... thanks!
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    I just ordered one.
    XL in red, no shock.

    I won't have the funds to complete the build until spring, but at least I'll have the frame. I plan to set it up with a 170mm Fox 36 with a Push ASC coil and a coil shock for the rear. My rune has this same fork (but as a 27.5) and a Fox DHX2 coil shock. It works quite well on the rune, so eager to try this combo on the titan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock-rod View Post
    I just ordered one.
    XL in red, no shock.

    I won't have the funds to complete the build until spring, but at least I'll have the frame. I plan to set it up with a 170mm Fox 36 with a Push ASC coil and a coil shock for the rear. My rune has this same fork (but as a 27.5) and a Fox DHX2 coil shock. It works quite well on the rune, so eager to try this combo on the titan.
    Coil front and rear, oh my! Sounds scary fast!
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    Sounds awesome! A few reviews will start rolling out soon so keep an eye online. The initial production run is pretty much sold out but we are taking pre orders for the next December drop in a few months. Hopefully I will have demo going to Qld and Adelaide by then too 🤘
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    Managed to bag a raw large from dirt merchant - thanks!

    Just got to pin down the spec now. Thinking xt8100 group and maybe a Mezzer if I can get the 42 offset which seems rare. Will 51 not work?

    Also did you do any mullet testing in development? Iím sure its best as banshee intended, but the geo does look like it could suit a 27.5 in the back in the high setting with a 170 fork.

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    I know the mullet set up on the paradox has some good results when the trail gets rowdy. It seems a personal thing though. Best thing is to try it out when sheís built up. Even if you know someone with a 27.5 compatible boost rear wheel you can borrow so you donít have to lay out cash on a wheel unless you like it 👌 (PS the raw is an awesome choice !)

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    My raw large (lol - sounds a little raunchy) Titan frame is also coming form dirt merchant. Evan is super easy going and patient with fools like me who struggle with making up one's mind.

    At any rate, my build plan is:
    -Fox 36 grip 2 170mm travel fork with 44mm offset and a Push ACS coil
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    -Fox DHX2 coil shock, 500lb coil
    -Race Face Next carbon cranks with Wheels Mfg BB
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    -KS Lev 150mm dropper
    -Diety bladerunner flat pedals
    -Spec saddle and carbon bar
    -ODI Rogue grips

    My Rune has a lot of these same parts and they work very well together.

    It's getting spendy, but it should be sendy when done! Since the Rune is a 27.5 bike, it's an easy step to try the mullet option

    I can't wait to get this beast built!
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    Nice one, sounds like a sweet build!

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    Any ride reports from folks here yet? I've seen a few things on Instagram indicating that bikes are arriving with customers, but still no other reviews to compare to other than what's in Spoke Mag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhendo View Post
    Any ride reports from folks here yet? I've seen a few things on Instagram indicating that bikes are arriving with customers, but still no other reviews to compare to other than what's in Spoke Mag.
    I'm the Distributor in NZ and the bike on the Youtube video is our demo bike/my bike

    In bullet points my impressions are:

    1. Pedals very well, not just for a 155 29er but well. My last regular bike was a Prime V2. This pedals better than the prime and the spitfire V2.

    2. It descends with controlled aggression. I've spent plenty of kms on the legend, rune and prime - the Titan descends better than V2 models and is as close to a DH bike without having a bike that is cumbersome.

    3. Off the top plushness blows your mind. Even with 240psi the thing moves without much input.

    4. Remains playful even with all that squish. Yes it is a 29er with 155mm travel but keith has done really well balancing opposing forces to create a beast that can party.

    5. Its comfortable to ride. From the second you sit on the saddle it feels good. I didnt feel that same instant comfort with the V2s. Don't get me wrong they were and are very good bikes but the Titan is next level.

    I've got 2 customers on them at the moment so will try to get some audio about how they feel. I'll post it on the Banshee Bike NZ facebook page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    I'm the Distributor in NZ and the bike on the Youtube video is our demo bike/my bike

    In bullet points my impressions are:

    1. Pedals very well, not just for a 155 29er but well. My last regular bike was a Prime V2. This pedals better than the prime and the spitfire V2.

    2. It descends with controlled aggression. I've spent plenty of kms on the legend, rune and prime - the Titan descends better than V2 models and is as close to a DH bike without having a bike that is cumbersome.

    3. Off the top plushness blows your mind. Even with 240psi the thing moves without much input.

    4. Remains playful even with all that squish. Yes it is a 29er with 155mm travel but keith has done really well balancing opposing forces to create a beast that can party.

    5. Its comfortable to ride. From the second you sit on the saddle it feels good. I didnt feel that same instant comfort with the V2s. Don't get me wrong they were and are very good bikes but the Titan is next level.

    I've got 2 customers on them at the moment so will try to get some audio about how they feel. I'll post it on the Banshee Bike NZ facebook page.

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    Good to know. My frame is supposed to come tomorrow. Iíll try to get it built up quick and get a ride in on it.

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    Mine should be shipping out next week. I have all the parts accumulated and will work to it built up as quickly as possible!
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    Having trouble but trying to post pics. Hopefully it works.
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    wow looks really nice. You went the X-large route? I was almost going to go that way but settled on a large frame because the dimensions seemed to match my current X-large rune V2 the closest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock-rod View Post
    wow looks really nice. You went the X-large route? I was almost going to go that way but settled on a large frame because the dimensions seemed to match my current X-large rune V2 the closest.
    I did. Getting to ride Longer new geo on other bikes changed my perspective on bike sizing.

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    Does anybody have a preference on the Titan, coil or air shock?

    Also, any word if Push will offer an 11-6 for the Titan?
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Any one know if a 29 x 3.0 would fit in the back with the longer drop outs?

    I did see a spec that said max 2.8...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottitus View Post
    Having trouble but trying to post pics. Hopefully it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Does anybody have a preference on the Titan, coil or air shock?

    Also, any word if Push will offer an 11-6 for the Titan?
    I've been riding my Rune with a DHX2 coil and it's been awesome. I spec'd my Titan with the same shock (and coil converted Fox 36 fork).

    I'm sure Push will do the 11-6 for a Titan because the Transition Patrol uses the same design shock and they offer one for that bike (both use the metric trunnion mount). It's just a function of tuning.
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    I asked Push about their HC97 and also mentioned that I was deciding between another Sentinel or the Titan, and they said that they are going to be bringing the Titan in late this year/early next to decide whether to develop a tune. I assume part of the decision will hinge around how many of these bikes Banshee ends up selling.

    On a related note, I just placed an order for a black Titan. Wanted the raw, but its sold out in Large through February, and I'm impatient. Plus, didn't realize that the black frame is anodized - I haven't seen an ano frame in-person in years since companies have gotten cheap and gone with wet paint for the most part, but man I'm stoked.

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    The raw has a beautiful tinted clear coat finish, same as the Paradox, but I still wish it was true raw aluminum. You can't go wrong with Banshee's classic black anodizing!
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    Mine was delivered today (looks a lot like the one in that pic, except for the shock). It's gorgeous. The pics don't do it any justice. The fabrication work is over the top amazing. Can't wait to get it built up and on the trail!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchantBicycles View Post


    The raw has a beautiful tinted clear coat finish, same as the Paradox, but I still wish it was true raw aluminum. You can't go wrong with Banshee's classic black anodizing!
    What size is that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchantBicycles View Post
    Size large
    Thanks, considering a medium. Had a medium Prime which I loved, but was stolen from my garage last Feb. Currently riding a medium OGHT...but suddenly have upgraditis!


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    What's the brake routing like on these new bikes? Trying to figure out how much of a PITA I'm in for when I sprint to build my new frame up on Thursday...

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    It's a bit of a pain. I had to disconnect the line for the rear brake from the lever and feed it up through the frame, only to find out the hose is too short. I order a new hose kit that's longer to solve for this, and will then have to do a full bleed.
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    Beautiful frame.
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    Wow...killer looking frame. I've been wanting a raw frame since I first saw Cannondale's road frames in 2007. If Banshee ever revises the Spitfire with a raw frame...I might have to get one.

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    That looks lovely, and I'm very partial to Banshee's raw finish. I still prefer the look of the Prime but would very much like to try riding this given the geo and travel.

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    Hard to keep these on hand long enough to snap a picture! Here's a medium anodized black frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchantBicycles View Post
    Hard to keep these on hand long enough to snap a picture! Here's a medium anodized black frame.
    I thought I wanted raw...now I'm conflicted! What is on the top of the top tube? This shot: https://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/...10867b49f0.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    I thought I wanted raw...now I'm conflicted! What is on the top of the top tube? This shot: https://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/...10867b49f0.jpg
    Same decals, glossy black on top of the "matte" anodized black. Black on black. The frame pictured is the last medium available until February.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchantBicycles View Post
    Same decals, glossy black on top of the "matte" anodized black. Black on black. The frame pictured is the last medium available until February.
    It's coming my way!


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    Built up

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    You beat me to it. I'm still waiting on parts .Hopefully will be done tomorrow. I have the same color. It looks good. You'll have to post up what you think about the coil shock. Have you ridden it yet?

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    Today is itís maiden trip. Iíll let you know how it goes.
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    Man, if I wasn't so stoked on the Ripmo, I'd be buying one of these. Beautiful rig. Can't wait to hear some ride feedback.
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    I got my titan assembled today. Got to bop around the neighborhood with it. First thing I notice is the rear suspension is much more plush then my prime. Not sure how many spacers come in the shock, but will be interested to see how it holds up in its travel on big hits. I seem to need to load a shock full of spacers to keep from blowing through its travel on my past bikes.
    I sized up to an xl. I wanted a bigger bike. My prime was a large. XL is bigger, about 2 in longer than prime, but feels fine. I put a 30mm stem and slammed an sq lab all the way forward. Reach feels fine. Titan feels noticeably different than my prime. I also squeezed a 180mm oneup dropper post in the frame and it feels fine at full extension as well. So far I'm happy with it. I will say I'm not really a fan of the internally routed brake line. I got it in without to much trouble though. I can't wait to dial it in more!

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    First ride in the books. Broke it in properly with a ride in White Ranch, which is a network of trails near Golden, CO. The group I was with did Long Horn, which is the techy, chunky decent with tons of water bars and rocks to drop down. This bike is amazing. Compared to my rune v2 itís very controllable and I felt like I could pick my lines and hold them. The rune just smashes down stuff. The rear suspension with the coil was incredibly easy to dial in and itís insanely smooth. This bike can absolutely climb like a goat. So glad I went with this bike. Canít wait to get out again and learn how to really ride it. Well done Banshee.
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    actually... we might have more stock available early December... working on it!
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    The black is so nice in person - my frame showed up last week, and honestly the construction quality is fantastic. Welds are great, the ano will be incredibly durable, and everything is will aligned when you pull apart the linkage.

    Which does bring me to one thing - a couple of bolts on my frame weren't up to proper torque spec, and most had little if any grease or loc-tite. I'm pretty obsessive about those sorts of details when I first build up a bike, but I'd generally recommend a quick bolt check and loc-tite/grease job.

    Cable routing is a whole lot easier if you pull out the rear shock as well, and some thin cable/AC line insulation works nicely to put around cables and prevent rattling in the downtube.

    My buddy saw my frame and was blown away - he immediately said it reminds him of an old Iron Horse Sunday. Stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock-rod View Post
    Broke it in properly with a ride in White Ranch, which is a network of trails near Golden, CO. The group I was with did Long Horn, which is the techy, chunky decent with tons of water bars and rocks to drop down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock-rod View Post
    First ride in the books. Broke it in properly with a ride in White Ranch, which is a network of trails near Golden, CO. The group I was with did Long Horn, which is the techy, chunky decent with tons of water bars and rocks to drop down. This bike is amazing. Compared to my rune v2 itís very controllable and I felt like I could pick my lines and hold them. The rune just smashes down stuff. The rear suspension with the coil was incredibly easy to dial in and itís insanely smooth. This bike can absolutely climb like a goat. So glad I went with this bike. Canít wait to get out again and learn how to really ride it. Well done Banshee.
    I probably just missed you on Sunday! That's my go to after work ride, Maverick to Longhorn for me. I have yet to test out a Titan there...I'm sure it handles it well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchantBicycles View Post
    I probably just missed you on Sunday! That's my go to after work ride, Maverick to Longhorn for me. I have yet to test out a Titan there...I'm sure it handles it well!
    bummer we missed each other. Would have been cool to see another banshee on the trail. Trying to decide on hitting Dakota Ridge or Deer Creek Canyon this weekend..
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    My build is at a standstill, as I apparently have a hanger or end cap with a manufacturing defect. I am curious if these holes on the underside of the bb section are intended for a ziptie/ cable tie solution?
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    Those holes are for a ziptie to loop through and hold your cables snug and out of the way of the shock
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    Those holes are for a ziptie to loop through and hold your cables snug and out of the way of the shock
    Thanks, that's what I figured!


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    gosh!! how tall are you, and what's your inseam...... you're sky high on that large frame!!

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    6'1" 33" inseam. Bike fits and feels great. The seat looks a little high because this pic was taken just after finishing the install of the dropper and it had not been set to the correct height.
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    Yet another snag on my build
    I am transferring components over from my SC Hightower, With my 6" Fox Transfer inserted to the limit, my feet are 2" from touching the pedals! And that's with 165mm crank arms! I didn't even consider that the dropper would be an issue...


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    I got a first ride in today. I can say the new KS2 link is noticeably improved over my prime. The bike does have a different feel. The shock was plush over small stuff. I was expecting the rear to blow through its travel, but I could feel it hold deeper into its travel without feeling it bottom. It ended up being lively'er ( I know its not a word, you know what I mean) on jump faces than I expected. I asked Banshee how many spacers came in the shock. The reply was 1 spacer. They also replied the Titan has more progression than my prime. They said the prime is 9% whereas the titan is 26%.

    I have the same wheels/tires on the titan that I had on my prime. It was slippery and greasy where I rode today due to rain. I had a few spots that I was ready for the rear tire to let go and slide because it would have on my prime, but it didn't. That's not to say the rear didn't slide at all because it did. I was impressed by the extra traction.

    I did notice the rear axle came loose. I will have to keep an eye on that. I will probably end up swapping the rear axle. I don't really care for the DT swiss one it came with. Overall I do like the ride. It was stable and predictable. I have the fork and shock in the ballpark for tuning. Unfortunately my first ride was a mud ride so its all ready dirty as $*@t. The PNW is good for that once the rains come.

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    Nice! I removed the dt axle and swapped it for a maxle because I had some issues in the past with the dt axle coming loose on my rune. The improved traction is significant and I agree the rear axle tracks small bumps ridiculously well yet doesnít blow through the travel.
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    3rd ride on the Titan in the books. I went out to hidden mesa (near Franktown, CO) and did 3-4 hot laps with some slick rock challenges. This bike is flat out awesome.
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    This thing is awesome. Stability/fun balance bang on. At home on anything from AM to bike park and somehow not over or under-biked anywhere.

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    Bravo banshee - iíll be riding this until it dies or you bring out a mk2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock-rod View Post
    ^^pics no workie!
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    I finally have a dropper installed that fits (for my short legs)! I have only ridden it with a fixed post thus far...but looking forward to a real shakedown ride now! Temps just need to rise above 30 degrees here in Fruita

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    I finally have a dropper installed that fits (for my short legs)! I have only ridden it with a fixed post thus far...but looking forward to a real shakedown ride now! Temps just need to rise above 30 degrees here in Fruita

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    What size frame? How tall are you and how short are your legs? Finally, which dropper (length)?

    I'm planning on a Titan next year and I'm in the same boat as you. Is it a post insertion depth issue with the seat tube?

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    My large has a 180mm oneup v2 and i can get it in almost to the collar - about half an inch short. Perfect for me (33.5 inseem).
    I can see how the smaller frames may have an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearTech View Post
    What size frame? How tall are you and how short are your legs? Finally, which dropper (length)?

    I'm planning on a Titan next year and I'm in the same boat as you. Is it a post insertion depth issue with the seat tube?
    I'm just shy of 6' tall & wear pants with a 30" inseam generally. The frame is a medium, dropper is a 150mm, and was literally my only choice for that much drop. Seat tube length is 16.9", insertion depth 210mm & I need at least 25.5" bb to saddle rails (running 165mm crank arms). The One Up post is the shortest on the market & barely makes it work.

    Essentially, add overall effective dropper length to 220mm (closest you can get dropper post to bb with full insertion), and that is the closest you can get your saddle rails to the bb center.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    I'm just shy of 6' tall & wear pants with a 30" inseam generally. The frame is a medium, dropper is a 150mm, and was literally my only choice for that much drop. Seat tube length is 16.9", insertion depth 210mm & I need at least 25.5" bb to saddle rails (running 165mm crank arms). The One Up post is the shortest on the market & barely makes it work.

    Essentially, add overall effective dropper length to 220mm (closest you can get dropper post to bb with full insertion), and that is the closest you can get your saddle rails to the bb center.
    Shoot, this might be a dealbreaker for me. I currently run a 150mm post on my 2020 Hightower and it's 1/2" from being slammed.

    I'm 5'8" with a shorter inseam than you. There's no way I could run a 150mm and I'd hate to lose drop by going to a 125mm. I like the seat as out of the way as possible.

    I'll have to seek a built medium Titan out to see how it fits. Anyone know of any US shops that will be stocking them? I travel for work so I could conveniently have an appointment near just about any shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearTech View Post
    Shoot, this might be a dealbreaker for me. I currently run a 150mm post on my 2020 Hightower and it's 1/2" from being slammed.

    I'm 5'8" with a shorter inseam than you. There's no way I could run a 150mm and I'd hate to lose drop by going to a 125mm. I like the seat as out of the way as possible.

    I'll have to seek a built medium Titan out to see how it fits. Anyone know of any US shops that will be stocking them? I travel for work so I could conveniently have an appointment near just about any shop.

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    The One Up post does offer some flexibility, in that you can reduce overall drop/ effective length by 10mm increments (max 20mm)...so a 130mm drop, worst case. The 165mm cranks I bought for my OG Hightower to gain some pedal strike clearance also give me an additional 10mm of wiggle room. I would have to slam the post if running 175's.

    Bummed I have to sell my Fox Transfer I just bought a few months ago, as it was my favorite dropper I have run. However, so far the One Up seems like a very nice option...especially considering the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    The One Up post does offer some flexibility, in that you can reduce overall drop/ effective length by 10mm increments (max 20mm)...so a 130mm drop, worst case. The 165mm cranks I bought for my OG Hightower to gain some pedal strike clearance also give me an additional 10mm of wiggle room. I would have to slam the post if running 175's.

    Bummed I have to sell my Fox Transfer I just bought a few months ago, as it was my favorite dropper I have run. However, so far the One Up seems like a very nice option...especially considering the cost.

    https://www.oneupcomponents.com/prod...ropper-post-v2
    I'm excited to hear how you like the Titan vs the OGHT once you had some proper rides on it. I forgot about the oneup adjustability, that may be the ticket. I have CC eeWings cranks at 170mm that I'll be keeping...forever lol.

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    Starting to think some more about this bike. I've always been a huge Banshee fan and have enjoyed the heck out of my Primes and Phantoms.

    Surprised there's not more feedback/reviews available; certainly there are some of these out there in the wild.

    Seriously considering the Titan as a daily driver in Phoenix (big high-speed chunk). I'm a little concerned about sizing. I'm 6'2, 34 inseam, +2 ape index. I've generally ridden XL in all my Banshees (and most other bikes).

    I would love to size down a bit to a Large and I'm right in the middle of Banshee's stated sizing. Numbers do seem a little on the tight side, though, so it's a gamble. Would welcome thoughts and more riding stoke.
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    Iím 6í1 and +1 ape index, 33.5 inseem - i have about an inch of a 180mm oneup dropper sticking out. Sizing feels bang on. I could get away with the XL which would be more stable/less playful Iíd imagine. Very happy on the large and made the right choice, both with the bike and the size - Its awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.oakes4 View Post
    Iím 6í1 and +1 ape index, 33.5 inseem - i have about an inch of a 180mm oneup dropper sticking out. Sizing feels bang on. I could get away with the XL which would be more stable/less playful Iíd imagine. Very happy on the large and made the right choice, both with the bike and the size - Its awesome!
    For reference I am 6'2" with +2.5" ape index and ride a large with 40mm stem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.oakes4 View Post
    Iím 6í1 and +1 ape index, 33.5 inseem - i have about an inch of a 180mm oneup dropper sticking out. Sizing feels bang on. I could get away with the XL which would be more stable/less playful Iíd imagine. Very happy on the large and made the right choice, both with the bike and the size - Its awesome!
    I'm 6,1 and some, +2 ape and long 35+ inseam ... and (after Keith suggestion) I ride with great satisfaction a L '13 Prime and in case I'd ride an L Titan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blatant View Post
    ... Seriously considering the Titan as a daily driver in Phoenix (big high-speed chunk). I'm a little concerned about sizing. I'm 6'2, 34 inseam, +2 ape index. I've generally ridden XL in all my Banshees (and most other bikes).

    I would love to size down a bit to a Large and I'm right in the middle of Banshee's stated sizing. Numbers do seem a little on the tight side, though, so it's a gamble. Would welcome thoughts and more riding stoke.
    In all theory: Why size down when you are familiar with Banshees XL sizing? Especially from your description?
    Bikes get longer reaches and wheelbases these days, so does Banshee. And if you are in-between sizes (L->XL) I personally would always size up. I did so on my Spitfire (M to L) and canīt imagine go back to medium again, once youīve experienced the advantages of a longer bike ... just my 2 cent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    In all theory: Why size down when you are familiar with Banshees XL sizing? Especially from your description?
    Bikes get longer reaches and wheelbases these days, so does Banshee. And if you are in-between sizes (L->XL) I personally would always size up. I did so on my Spitfire (M to L) and canīt imagine go back to medium again, once youīve experienced the advantages of a longer bike ... just my 2 cent.
    I'm pretty much the opposite...rode large frames for years, now I try to ride the shortest frame I feel comfortable on. Especially bikes that already have a long wheelbase (like the Titan), you can benefit from added maneuverability while still enjoying a stable bike at speed. So far my medium Titan feels roomier than the medium Prime I rode for years.

    To me, a lot of it comes down to how & where you ride.


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    After some waiting trying to get my Titan fully built, I finally finished it this past Friday and hit it hard this weekend with 2 very descending-heavy days both Saturday and Sunday. I typically like to do some dial-in days for a new bike riding some familiar and less rowdy trails, but the primo weather in the PNW had me too excited, so I hit some of the more tech / unforgiving stuff around here.

    In short, the Titan absolutely crushed it. Despite looking quite burly and being even longer than my size L Sentinel that I came from, the bike feels very light-footed and changes direction more easily than I would have expected for such a long bike. The chainstays are quite a bit longer than the Sentinel, and while I did find myself overcooking a couple of steep corners where the back end of the Sentinel wanted to slide through them more than the Titan does, it barely took any time to adapt and the extra grip and stability afforded is worth the slight adjustment period.

    Most surprising aspects of this bike were:

    1. It climbs well. Even with new bike excitement, I noticed that it responds well to laying power down, and at 6'1, the climbing position on the L frame is perfect with a 50mm stem. It feels instantly comfortable

    2. The bike strikes a unique balance between stability and playfulness. The Sentinel was not particularly playful, instead liking to hunker down in the middle of its travel. This led to a very stable feeling when descending super steep stuff, but I feel that the Titan almost matches that level of stability while being a whole lot faster and more fun when the going gets rough. Despite being my first rides on the Titan, I beat my best times on several rough-and-steep trails, the biggest differences being that the Titan seems to be more settled in really rough stuff, allowing you to make otherwise risky line choices.

    3. The bike has no discernible speed limit. The length paired with the long stays encourages you to stay super centered even when speeds get ludicrous. I still think that the Sentinel is the better bike for rear wheel sliding through steep rut tracks, but that's in part because the Titan just wants to you jump up out of the rut and gap the whole damn thing.

    I swap bikes pretty often, and I can already say that the Titan is the most comfortable I've ever been on a new bike from first ride. The ride feel is very solid yet its comfortable for multi-hour riders, and I found myself less fatigued than on my Sentinel despite also riding more aggressively and recording faster DH times. Can't wait until next season to give this thing a proper shakedown on some of the 2000'+ descents up high.

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    First proper shakedown ride today for me, and I would parallel your initial assessment. I rode a familiar loop that is mostly slower techy chunk, typical Western CO ledgy climbs followed by similar descents.

    The bike is a very solid climber, in or out of the saddle. It also felt very plush at slow to medium speeds. I need to spend some time dialing in the shock, as the last chunky high speed descent felt really spiky. Having a highly tunable shock that offers hi/lo speed adjustments for both compression & rebound is a nice luxury...but can really make the rear feel like arse if not properly tuned. If anybody (Keith) has some decent beta on where to start with the settings it would be appreciated. I plan to borrow the lbs' shock wiz at some point as well, but I suspect too much hi speed adjustment of the compression or rebound.

    The longer rear center made keeping the nose up on drops a bit harder, especially if you don't anticipate it ahead of time...I suspect that will become intuitive with time. Very balanced once in the air though & landings feel super plush & planted.

    I got my first blemish out of the way when a big rock flew up & made contact with the downtube 100 feet from the end of the ride

    I look forward to more time in the saddle!
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    Any weights on complete builds? Especially those that aimed for a light build?

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    What rear tyres are people running And whats the clearance like? Iím on Michelin wild enduro 2.4 and thereís not enough clearance.

    May have to go to the 29+ rear dropouts... what will this do to the geo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    For reference I am 6'2" with +2.5" ape index and ride a large with 40mm stem.
    I am 5'11 and I will get my L Titan frame tomorrow! :-D

    I also own a Rune V2 and Phantom in L and had a Spitfire L. I've always been using a 40mm stem.

    Honestly I was struggeling a lot with taking the decision on the size of the new Titan, but after testing a mondraker Superfoxy in M (same Reach of 470mm, little shorter chainstays), I am certain it will fit nicely! I am so excited already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.oakes4 View Post
    What rear tyres are people running And whats the clearance like? Iím on Michelin wild enduro 2.4 and thereís not enough clearance.

    May have to go to the 29+ rear dropouts... what will this do to the geo?

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    I haven't had my hand/eyes on the newer Michelin tires but that does look pretty big compared to a Maxxis 2.4". The long/29"+ are 10mm longer...massive chainstay length.
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    Yea Iíd rather leave the length as it is... but I love these tyres! You can see 3 rides in its already scratched - not that Iím bothered about scratches there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearTech View Post
    Any weights on complete builds? Especially those that aimed for a light build?

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    Mine is 32.5lbs with Catalyst flat pedals (not light).


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    I really wouldnít worry about weight. Mines 36lbs (with pedals, bottle cage, pump, multi tool, all in). But I have coils front and rear and heavy tyres. It climbs the same/slightly better than my 29lb carbon mondraker Foxy did.

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    Mine is also about 36lbs with coils and heavy tires. I am not worried about it. Itís an amazing climber and kills the decents.
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    I have several rides on different types of terrain now. I let a friend do a lap on it and he was impressed as well. I've started to get into trouble because I can brake later due to the rear giving more traction and have been coming in really hot into corners. I've made the corners most of the time. That's on me though.

    The bike feels neutral in the air. I sized up to an XL frame. I like the extra room on the bike in the corner. It feels more centered between the wheels. It rails corners. I can feel the rear tracking the ground in the corners.

    As for the tight stuff with a longer bike. It will do it, but you need to commit to the line, If you hesitate you might not make it. You need to put your front wheel were you want it at the right time. It takes a little more body English but its not really a big deal.

    You need to practice with the long rear end. The Titan is only 4mm longer than my Prime, but it does take more effort to lift it. After a couple trails it was a non issue. The bike is fast. It doesn't seem to really get hung up to much and you can feel when it just takes off and keeps accelerating contributing to coming into corners too fast.
    The Titan climbs as well or better than my Prime. I'm pretty happy about that!

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    Am I really the first one with a "ferrari red", or better call it "screaming naughty orange-red" TITAN?

    Still waiting for the seatpost and tyres...


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    Awesome...friggin' sweeeeeet.
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    The color is beautiful!
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    The camera might be playing tricks but that sure looks like an orange Titan...

    edit: the orange/red above is a more accurate color representation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMerchantBicycles View Post
    The camera might be playing tricks but that sure looks like an orange Titan...

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    It totally depends on the light conditions. To me it looks more like orange than red, although it has a lot of red in it *ggg*

    The kids kitchen in the back has some red elements which are clearly red. There's a big difference in reality.

    Some more pics from today. Added some decals....


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    I had to look at a frame in person and check. The picture I posted definitely looks like a deeper red than it is in person. Your pictures above look bang on.
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    :-)

    I am so excited to ride this giant!!

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    Here we go!!!!! :-D


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    Quote Originally Posted by grazertourer View Post
    Here we go!!!!! :-D


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    weight of the red beast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by filbike View Post
    weight of the red beast?
    15,34kg.

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    Settings time!

    What suspension are you running and what settings......

    Here's mine:

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    Not sure on rebound as its done from feel.......

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    Here's my ride - 14.5kg (no pedals)

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    More ride reports please!

    This is a long shot but has anyone ridden a SB150 and can compare?

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