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    Where to ride after the rain?

    I have off after 930AM tomorrow and wanted to go for a longer ride (I was originally planning on BCT out and back from bumblebee rd to the top of antelope). But itís supposed to rain all night. I know PMP is great after a rain but was hopping to do a longer ride then I usually do there and go someplace I donít ride all the time.

    Any suggestions? Last Friday I did Mcdowell / Browns a lot of it was fine but some of it was wet sand that caked into my tires.

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    Cave Creek Regional Park has been great after a rain in my experience. Traction was perfect last Sat after the rains and the Creek crossing wasn't bad at all.

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    Far as I can tell, everywhere in the valley is amazing after rain, as long as the trails are just damp and not soaking wet. Favorite time to ride.
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    Rain totals so far and from the forecast tonight and tomorrow look pretty minimal. I don't think any locations near the metro area will be too wet. PMP today was hardly damp; not a puddle to be found. There's a section just south of the 32nd street entrance that gets a little sticky and it was solid as can be.

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    I must be doing it wrong.

    Last Friday my tires were so laden with mud trying to ride from Cave Creek Regional Park to Spur Cross I had to turn around.

    I'm hoping the Maricopa Trail will be in shape by Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myt1 View Post
    I must be doing it wrong.

    Last Friday my tires were so laden with mud trying to ride from Cave Creek Regional Park to Spur Cross I had to turn around.

    I'm hoping the Maricopa Trail will be in shape by Sunday.
    I rode the C4 route in the rain and it was muddy up between Spur Cross and the park. Especially the section that goes downhill and across to meet the Go John trail. That does get nasty in the rain.

    Last week I rode military, flat rock, quartz, go john, overton, and slate as well as the flat back around to surrey. I think the stuff on the rockier slopes fares better

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    Anywhere you want to ride....Az sucks up the rain.

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    I have no idea of the weather pattern going from SoCal into AZ but I can tell you what was supposed to be a "light steady rain" in Oceanside was an mostly steady pounding with some thunder and lightning thrown in for good measure. Consequently, you may get more than what was expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball View Post
    I rode the C4 route in the rain and it was muddy up between Spur Cross and the park. Especially the section that goes downhill and across to meet the Go John trail. That does get nasty in the rain.

    Last week I rode military, flat rock, quartz, go john, overton, and slate as well as the flat back around to surrey. I think the stuff on the rockier slopes fares better
    Yes, it was precisely the section you mentioned...between Spur Cross and the park...that my tires turned into mud magnets.

    The part of the trail in CCRP wasn't so bad.

    Things should be good for this Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones2 View Post
    I have off after 930AM tomorrow and wanted to go for a longer ride (I was originally planning on BCT out and back from bumblebee rd to the top of antelope). But itís supposed to rain all night. I know PMP is great after a rain but was hopping to do a longer ride then I usually do there and go someplace I donít ride all the time.

    Any suggestions? Last Friday I did Mcdowell / Browns a lot of it was fine but some of it was wet sand that caked into my tires.
    I hit the Bumblebee-Antelope section of the BCT today about an hour after the rain stopped. A little tacky, but no sticky mud. Seems to dry out pretty fast: much drier on the retrun trip. With heavier, more sustained rainfall I could see a potential for death mud in some spots. Do watch out for the cow pies after a rain as they take on the consistency of chocolate pudding. Don't ask how I know.
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    Riding conditions in Sedona will be excellent.

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    I haven't been here long, but White Tanks is the closest riding to me and drains nicely. If I wasn't out of town, I'd do Mesquite to Goat Camp, then Ford Canyon.
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    Anywhere without mud...

    Seriously as said before our trails drain really well unless itís a monsoon. So pick your favorite spot

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    So, I still must be doing it wrong...please see my above post.

    This is my tire after dropping down the north side of Kentuck Mtn. on segment 22 of the Maricopa Trail on Sunday.

    My plan was to ride this section south to north and then return by retracing the trail north to south.

    I just returned on the road. At least that wasn't muddy.


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    Honestly, you're choosing to ride some of the worst death mud sections!
    Maricopa TR over Kentuck is aweful and takes a long time to dry out since part is always in the shade this time of year. Once you get over that first little saddle heading north, the geology changes from decomposed granite to sticky stuff...only gets worse as you do that last big climb.
    Spur Cross...Aweful...all deathmud pretty much.
    I think Deems is the same.
    I'm no geologist, but anything that looks like lava rock tends to contain basalt and is like peanut butter.
    btw, we rode out in that area Saturday but not up Kentuck and there was no problem at all. The ground was damp making for some nice velcro dirt.

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    Here's a useful thread from years gone by, a list of sorts of places/trails to AVOID after a good soaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybum View Post
    Honestly, you're choosing to ride some of the worst death mud sections!
    Maricopa TR over Kentuck is aweful and takes a long time to dry out since part is always in the shade this time of year. Once you get over that first little saddle heading north, the geology changes from decomposed granite to sticky stuff...only gets worse as you do that last big climb.
    Spur Cross...Aweful...all deathmud pretty much.
    I think Deems is the same.
    I'm no geologist, but anything that looks like lava rock tends to contain basalt and is like peanut butter.
    btw, we rode out in that area Saturday but not up Kentuck and there was no problem at all. The ground was damp making for some nice velcro dirt.
    You are exactly right.

    Up until the first little saddle the trail is decomposed granite. I had no problem with mud up to that point.

    Immediately after dropping off the saddle the nature of the trail changes dramatically. It gets pretty muddy.

    And also yes, the north side of Kentuck Mountain was totally in the shade and was very muddy.

    Thanks so much for the feedback.

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