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    Well, Crap . . .

    I know I promised no more posts, but as it turns out, I won't be able to put my money where my mouth is on Wednesday. I just booked a Grand Canyon hike for Wednesday and a canyoneering trip for Friday.

    Probably just as well anyway.

    Best of luck; keep the rubber side down!


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    Whew! I was expecting another S-storm thread of cat fighting.

    Enjoy your trip! Isn't the canyon a bit hot this tiime of year? Like REALLY hot?
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    The Grand Canyon gets warmer as you descend but we're only going down to Cedar Mesa for lunch. The temps @ the rim should only be in the 80's too.

    As for the canyoneering trip we're going into Salome - a wet canyon. The hike in/out is warm but not bad if properly prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    As for the canyoneering trip we're going into Salome - a wet canyon. The hike in/out is warm but not bad if properly prepared.
    Enjoy the slime. The green is in full effect right now.

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    really? I have a group in today so I was expecting to hear some beta from them . . .crud! How recently were you in?

    Thanks for the feedback.

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    Just be sure to not hike over the center line, or run around blind corners and you should be ok


    Does the up-hill hiker have the right-away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    The Grand Canyon gets warmer as you descend ...
    Really? We had no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    The Grand Canyon gets warmer as you descend but we're only going down to Cedar Mesa for lunch. The temps @ the rim should only be in the 80's too.

    As for the canyoneering trip we're going into Salome - a wet canyon. The hike in/out is warm but not bad if properly prepared.

    Sounds nice. Congrats on leaving this oven of a city for a few days
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    Those slackers on the burros are lazy and have not earned their turns.

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    You could learn a lot from me skinny . . .I even wrote a book: How to piss off people in 100 words or less.

    Not available in stores so order now! But wait, there's more . . . order now & we'll send you a copy of my original book Lose friends & alienate everyone. Just pay separate postage & handling.

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    Serenity NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    really? I have a group in today so I was expecting to hear some beta from them . . .crud! How recently were you in?

    Thanks for the feedback.
    I was in the Jug last month and the slime was coming in nicely. It may or may not be worse now. The general consensus is that April/May is the best time to avoid the slippery green stuff. It might be better to hit one of the West Clear Creek canyons (Xpine, Meadow, Sundance (if you have big cojones)).

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    PHEW!!!! Judging from title of this thread I thought I was going to see another Geronimo Bench Pooh story...

    Have fun hiking the canyon...hiking down is worse than hiking up IMO. As for Salome, a friend does that canyoneering hike and the pics of that are always awesome!
    ~~~

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    We don't have commercial permits for WC canyons yet and dealing with Red Rock Ranger District is a little dicey right now - workin' on it though. As for Salome, April is great, May & June are perfect, but for some real excitement go in late March - tons of flow.

    April & May also afford some great 30' & 50' cliff jumps in Salome that you can do over & over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    You could learn a lot from me skinny . . .I even wrote a book: How to piss off people in 100 words or less.

    Not available in stores so order now! But wait, there's more . . . order now & we'll send you a copy of my original book Lose friends & alienate everyone. Just pay separate postage & handling.
    This guy has a pretty good sense of humor

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    Yes, transportation is included in every tour. That's the primary reason I own a 15 passenger van. The secondary reason is because chicks dig vans - combined with a hammer & black mask it's the best way to get a girlfriend.

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    OK food for thought how much to drag 4-6 Dh'ers to Angelfire for Labor Day weekend?

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    Wow! That looks fun. Great pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    Yes, transportation is included in every tour. That's the primary reason I own a 15 passenger van.
    I want one of those 15 passenger vans.
    they are neat. I like them better than my current one. A Dodge Ram Van would be sweet...

    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    The secondary reason is because chicks dig vans - combined with a hammer & black mask it's the best way to get a girlfriend.
    This is how I meet girls...this isn't the right way?

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    Well, despite my aversion to driving my bike to the top of a hill, I'm not opposed to helping out fellow riders.

    HOWEVER, I'm the trip leader & chef on a private Grand Canyon rafting trip from August 28th through September 12th so I won't be around then. Maybe next time though!

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    That sounds pretty awesome and gnar in its own way.

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    It IS one of the coolest trips of all time. We even get to do Deer Creek, a technical canyon w/ a 180' rappel in a waterfall!

    I'll take photos.

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    ah....that cliff jumping looks fun!

    Cess...you guys thinking about rolling to Angel Fire for Labor Day?
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    Yea, I think Mikey and Posh Bigelow are down also. Posh has the free passes.

    Leave on a Friday and drive to Candy to camp out. Wake up early and get to Angelfire for riding on Sat. Ride Sun and either leave to go back to candy or wait to drive back on Monday. Tentative itinerary (sp).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    It IS one of the coolest trips of all time. We even get to do Deer Creek, a technical canyon w/ a 180' rappel in a waterfall!

    I'll take photos.
    See? Now you're motivating me to get my certifications and start doing those tours too.

    You're livin the dream, man...

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    Yes, transportation is included in every tour. That's the primary reason I own a 15 passenger van.
    I will add, that is the BEST HANDLING 15-passenger van in existence. Felt like a BMW on the corners.

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    You can totaly see down that girls shirt.
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    Nice catch Matty, giggedy.

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    We're always looking for qualified guides! Obviously it's slower than geriatrics humping right now but we usually pick up during the cooler months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    We don't have commercial permits for WC canyons yet and dealing with Red Rock Ranger District is a little dicey right now - workin' on it though. As for Salome, April is great, May & June are perfect, but for some real excitement go in late March - tons of flow.

    April & May also afford some great 30' & 50' cliff jumps in Salome that you can do over & over.
    The upper end of Salome is pretty cool too but the hike is not nearly as tame as the JUG.

    You ever get into Cibecue? I guess now you have to go w/ and "official" Apache guide but that's about the coolest canyon I've been to in AZ, incl. Grand Canyon and it's wonderful plethora of side canyons.

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    Yea, the jug is pretty easy; the upper end just takes so long. Yes, I've done Cibecue; there's an Apache guide named Greg Henry; he's an ACA certified guide. Cool dude! You can go up as far as the first waterfall w/o a guide, but you'll still need a day permit.

    You should do Parker Canyon. It's a parallel drainage to Salome, but deeper & more technical. There's a good hike out, canyon right, just after the 80' rappel. It's a 3rd class hike that takes you out to the road. It's a GREAT canyon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    Yea, the jug is pretty easy; the upper end just takes so long. Yes, I've done Cibecue; there's an Apache guide named Greg Henry; he's an ACA certified guide. Cool dude! You can go up as far as the first waterfall w/o a guide, but you'll still need a day permit.

    You should do Parker Canyon. It's a parallel drainage to Salome, but deeper & more technical. There's a good hike out, canyon right, just after the 80' rappel. It's a 3rd class hike that takes you out to the road. It's a GREAT canyon.

    I second that. Here's the 80' rappel right before the Stair Climber exit. This picture is from April, so there is likely little or no water right now.


    Also good is Crystal Canyon. There's a 40', followed by a swim before the 70' (with consequences if you miss the second anchor).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cesslinger
    Yea, I think Mikey and Posh Bigelow are down also. Posh has the free passes.

    Leave on a Friday and drive to Candy to camp out. Wake up early and get to Angelfire for riding on Sat. Ride Sun and either leave to go back to candy or wait to drive back on Monday. Tentative itinerary (sp).
    Dude, adam and i were just kicking the idea of rollin to angelfire labor day weekend. we should get a group to head up there and represent the az.


    Have u ever ridden up there, if not u have to go, it's incredible. the speeds u can reach are waaaaay fast!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpvet73
    I second that. Here's the 80' rappel right before the Stair Climber exit. This picture is from April, so there is likely little or no water right now.


    Also good is Crystal Canyon. There's a 40', followed by a swim before the 70' (with consequences if you miss the second anchor).
    Nice! I've heard of Crystal. Is that the San Carlos? Otherwise, Parker is on the too do list but the last decade or so seems to have been more dedicated to mtn biking

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgiles
    Dude, adam and i were just kicking the idea of rollin to angelfire labor day weekend. we should get a group to head up there and represent the az.


    Have u ever ridden up there, if not u have to go, it's incredible. the speeds u can reach are waaaaay fast!!!!
    Sounds good. Posh is down for sure... hopefully his bike lives long enough to see the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman
    Nice! I've heard of Crystal. Is that the San Carlos? Otherwise, Parker is on the too do list but the last decade or so seems to have been more dedicated to mtn biking
    Yes, Crystal is on San Carlos res. It is a good long day if you run the tech section twice.

    Parker is highly recommended. It is my favorite in that area of the state. You can do it and the Jug in the same day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 360 Adventures
    As for the canyoneering trip we're going into Salome - a wet canyon. The hike in/out is warm but not bad if properly prepared.
    fun canyon! Have you ever done upper Salome?

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