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    Any ride recommendations for a Saturday sunset? Iíll be doing National/Mormon Sunday morning, so looking for a 10-15mile, 2hr, loop ride for Saturday with some views, maybe 800-1200ft of climbing, single track but can be just fast and flowy, doesnít need to be as techy as South Mtn. Was thinking something in Brownís Ranch or west side McDowell. And, this will be late June.

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    Late June and late in the day do not really mix well. It could be close to 115* +. Where are you visiting from?

    Browns Ranch would be a good choice.

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    The bar would be a better one.

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    i wouldnt do it unless you are used to heat and in good shape. But, if you can suffer your way up about 40 min and 800 feet to the peak of Gateway loop, that's a good sunset and all downhill from there. Browns is much easier riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybum View Post
    The bar would be a better one.
    Iíll meet you there afterwards. You can say I told you so.

    I may dial it back a bit but do want to get shake down ride on the rental.

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    Hereís a thought. Park at the Pemberton trailhead in McDowell Mtn Regional Park. Ride clockwise about 6 miles. Then turn left at the Rock Knob trail and go about a mile and cross into McDowell Sonoran Preserve. Keep going up. You will pass the turn off to the Gooseneck trail on the right. But keep going another quarter mile until you intersect the Marcus Landslide Trail. Stop and enjoy the view to the east and northwest. Turn around and head back to the Gooseneck Trail and turn left and head back down. After about 2.5 miles you will intersect a trail that will lead you back to the Pemberton Trail at a place called Jackass Junction. you will see a ramada with a dead guy on top. Go left on the Pemberton trail for about 7 miles back to the trailhead. By the time you are done you will have done a fairly mellow 17 miles and about 1200 ft climbing. The views are pretty good and depending on timing and the amount of dust in the air, the sunset could be spectacular. Hereís a map that will make my directions more clear:

    https://www.maricopacountyparks.net/...ll-8x11-mi.pdf

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    PS-on the map Jackass Junction is called Granite Tank, which is the name that all us old timers call that place. Again, look for the dead guy on top of the ramada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Late June and late in the day do not really mix well. It could be close to 115* +. Where are you visiting from?

    Browns Ranch would be a good choice.
    Coming from NC. By then Iíll have some hot weather fitness built up, but granted, in the humidity. Was thinking that when the shadows grew it would be a bit cooler but maybe that doesnít happen there. Have ridden Sedona but for sure it wasnít 115.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bituman View Post
    Hereís a thought. Park at the Pemberton trailhead in McDowell Mtn Regional Park. Ride clockwise about 6 miles. Then turn left at the Rock Knob trail and go about a mile and cross into McDowell Sonoran Preserve. Keep going up. You will pass the turn off to the Gooseneck trail on the right. But keep going another quarter mile until you intersect the Marcus Landslide Trail. Stop and enjoy the view to the east and northwest. Turn around and head back to the Gooseneck Trail and turn left and head back down. After about 2.5 miles you will intersect a trail that will lead you back to the Pemberton Trail at a place called Jackass Junction. you will see a ramada with a dead guy on top. Go left on the Pemberton trail for about 7 miles back to the trailhead. By the time you are done you will have done a fairly mellow 17 miles and about 1200 ft climbing. The views are pretty good and depending on timing and the amount of dust in the air, the sunset could be spectacular. Hereís a map that will make my directions more clear:

    https://www.maricopacountyparks.net/...ll-8x11-mi.pdf

    Have fun.

    Bob
    PS-on the map Jackass Junction is called Granite Tank, which is the name that all us old timers call that place. Again, look for the dead guy on top of the ramada.
    Mention of the dead guy really makes me want to pursue that, but the level of detail, and distance, makes me wary Iíll be another non-desert sucker. Either way, thx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu-D View Post
    Coming from NC. By then Iíll have some hot weather fitness built up, but granted, in the humidity. Was thinking that when the shadows grew it would be a bit cooler but maybe that doesnít happen there. Have ridden Sedona but for sure it wasnít 115.
    I lived in Western NC (Winston-Salem) and I'll be honest going out in the middle of the Summer there was sticky and uncomfortable, but could be done safely. I wouldn't attempt a ride here on a 115 day unless it was a late evening/night ride or dawn patrol.

    That being said, if you can tough it out Browns is a good option because there are a some interesting landmarks to check out and nice flowy trails. If you want something with a bit more elevation and technical riding you could consider the mineshaft trail at Hawes.

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    If you are going to ride I would really recommend doing it after the sun goes down. Either Brownís or McDowell Mountain Park offer good night riding. Bring plenty of water and let someone know your route and your expected time to check in.

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    Just drink lots of water before the ride and bring some on your ride. You will be fine, My first ride in PHX after moving from CT was a 113F summer day on South Mountain. I still don't ride with water any time of the year and ride in the middle of the day and hottest times here and there. I hydrate with just water before a ride and never ever come close to having a problem, not sure if it's my body vs others, but I just think you guys are over thinking it. With that said dehydration will kill you, just hydrate it's obvious no matter how hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driverfound337 View Post
    I still don't ride with water any time of the year and ride in the middle of the day and hottest times here and there.
    Not sound advise.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Not sound advise.....
    I do enjoy the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestont View Post
    I lived in Western NC (Winston-Salem) and I'll be honest going out in the middle of the Summer there was sticky and uncomfortable, but could be done safely. I wouldn't attempt a ride here on a 115 day unless it was a late evening/night ride or dawn patrol.

    That being said, if you can tough it out Browns is a good option because there are a some interesting landmarks to check out and nice flowy trails. If you want something with a bit more elevation and technical riding you could consider the mineshaft trail at Hawes.

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    Thx for the tips. Yeah, Western Carolina can be uncomfortable, but it does tend to be about 10 degrees cooler than the the lowlands (and Pisgah is, after all, a rain forest, so agua, no problem).

    Think Iíll head to Brown, as late as possible, with lots of water and low expectations. I donít need a bunch of climbing. But I do want some daylight for the expansive views. Sunday Iíll be on dawn patrol, seeking more challenge, which I expect to find on National.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu-D View Post
    Mention of the dead guy really makes me want to pursue that, but the level of detail, and distance, makes me wary Iíll be another non-desert sucker. Either way, thx.
    Actually, in suggesting that route I was trying to give you something that a non-desert dweller might be able to survive in the late afternoon of June. But if you are going to try Browns Ranch, I would suggest starting at Granite Mtn trailhead. FYI, ďBrowns RanchĒ is just one of the trailheads in the McDowell Sonoran Preserve North Area but has become the generic name for that area. IMO the area around Granite Mtn is the most scenic in that area. So hereís another map to help you:

    https://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/Assets/...+Trail+Map.pdf

    Suggest you ride the Granite Mtn Loop trail and if you want a little longer ride, add the Cholla Mtn Loop trail via Branding Iron. The good thing about that area is that the trails are really well marked and if you use the map, you canít get lost. From the trails Iím talking about you will get a decent view of sunset. FYI, there are no dead guys on top of ramadas there. Yes, bring plenty of water. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    i wouldnt do it unless you are used to heat and in good shape. But, if you can suffer your way up about 40 min and 800 feet to the peak of Gateway loop, that's a good sunset and all downhill from there. Browns is much easier riding.
    If Iíve found the right trail on Trailforks, Gateway loop is 4 miles, 682ft climbing. Is this what youíre thinking? Thatís little for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu-D View Post
    If Iíve found the right trail on Trailforks, Gateway loop is 4 miles, 682ft climbing. Is this what youíre thinking? Thatís little for sure.
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    It's not Scottsdale but I'd go to Gold Canyon if you want some epic scenery. The Superstitions at sunset and sunrise are both pretty magical....plus it's legit twisty, windy singletrack vs the wide openers at Browns IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu-D View Post
    If Iíve found the right trail on Trailforks, Gateway loop is 4 miles, 682ft climbing. Is this what youíre thinking? Thatís little for sure.
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    Gateway is like Disneyland on a weekend for pedestrian traffic. I suggest if you go out Gateway, drop down Paradise to Quartz and you could go off to Lost Dog Wash and Old Jeep. Or go the other way on Gateway and find your way over to Windgate and Bell Pass. But I wouldn't suggest those rides the night before SoMo.

    If you want easier miles versus to technical miles, park at Toms Thumb TH. Drop down Rock Knob to Pemberton to Bluff or Coachwhip/Dixie Mine and pick your route back to Toms Thumb, possibly Tonto Tank. Very pretty desert here, the Bluff DH is a fast, swoopy roller. Other option is Browns Ranch and pick your trails. Hawkesnest going from West to East is fun. Latigo is fun either direction out of the parking lot. If you get to Cholla Mt Loop you can check out Cathedral Rock. Again very pretty desert and laid back fun roller riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k2rider1964 View Post
    It's not Scottsdale but I'd go to Gold Canyon if you want some epic scenery. The Superstitions at sunset and sunrise are both pretty magical....plus it's legit twisty, windy singletrack vs the wide openers at Browns IMO.
    Another 25mins to get there. I guess you mean the view of the S mountains from the GC trails? Any particular routes or just fool around in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    this is where I call you a touron.
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    I actually answered this but I guess I forgot to hit enter. The bonuses of GC are that it's 95% singletrack, 95% intermediate (good to keep speeds down due to all the cactus/fauna) and signed very well. It's all on Trailforks so impossible to get lost. We went with a board member, Transition Senior, who is a Canadian that lives in Gold Canyon during the Winter. We started on the east end and rode out 'Don't Fence Me In', went all over the place and came back to the trailhead on 'Outer Limits'. Sorry I couldn't help more.
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    You will be coming from a time zone 3 hours earlier so you will be wide awake at 4:00am. Best time to ride is early morning arriving at the trail just when it is light enough to ride. I consider 3 liters of water minimum amount for a hot summer ride and I often run dry on the way back to the Trailhead.

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