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    Pre-Ride 24ITOP Course - Permit?

    We are planning on riding the course this Sat AM. Any know if you still need a BLM permit to pre-ride the 24ITOP course. If so, where can you get one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoplea
    We are planning on riding the course this Sat AM. Any know if you still need a BLM permit to pre-ride the 24ITOP course. If so, where can you get one?

    Thanks!
    You're suppose to, and that's all I'll say. My guess is, you can get them from the BLM. I think they have an office downtown. I was also told that some bike shops--Bike Ranch specifically--that sold them, but somebody told me I was mistaken.

    Are you doing the race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny-tire
    You're suppose to, and that's all I'll say. My guess is, you can get them from the BLM. I think they have an office downtown. I was also told that some bike shops--Bike Ranch specifically--that sold them, but somebody told me I was mistaken.

    Are you doing the race?
    Tyler and I are planning on doing it Duo. I wanted him to pre-ride it so he knows what he is up against.

    Our goal is to beat the # of laps of the legendary "Double D"!

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    This is just need to know information: Am i supposed to enjoy the irony or pity the sincerity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoplea
    Tyler and I are planning on doing it Duo. I wanted him to pre-ride it so he knows what he is up against.

    Our goal is to beat the # of laps of the legendary "Double D"!
    Awesome. He's going to have a blast. And as far as beating those hacks, no problem.

    Let's touch base offline closer to the race. I'm doing it again with Geoff and a couple other buddies.

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    Fair warning

    Last year the sheriff's department was having a great time handing out $250 tickets at the parking area near the arch. The State Land Department is very MTB unfriendly. I personally would not take the chance of going out without a permit.

    While we are on the subject of the 24HOP. The rancher that leases the land that the Corral Singletrack is on has asked us not to go through the corral. Just head up the road(about a mile) past the corral and you can pick it up at the southern most corner of the section, the gate is open.

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    what time are you going to ride on Sat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikeking
    what time are you going to ride on Sat?
    I am not sure that we are going to be able to go this Sat, now. It seems that you have to request they mail you an application, then fill it out and send it back in with your $$. I will not be able to get to downtown Phx tomorrow and I cannot afford the $250 ticket.

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    Thanks for the info. I did find where you can print the application online and mail it in. Here is the link...

    http://www.land.state.az.us/programs...oad_permit.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoplea
    Thanks for the info. I did find where you can print the application online and mail it in. Here is the link...

    http://www.land.state.az.us/programs...oad_permit.htm

    FYI
    I thought I read something about the permits being available at shops and such. Paul B may know.
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    The forms...

    are availiable at some shops, here in Tucson at least. They still need to be sent to the State Land Department for "approval".

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    It's started...

    The following is a note from a buddy that was out there today.

    However - the above wouldn't prompt me to send this out. The visit from the
    Sheriff's department did, however. Be SURE you have your State Land Permit
    AND that you put your yellow parking permit in plain sight when you park.
    The officer mentioned that he'd made $2500 for the governor so far this
    morning. I'd count on being checked anytime you're out there between now
    and race day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slugobikes
    The following is a note from a buddy that was out there today.

    However - the above wouldn't prompt me to send this out. The visit from the
    Sheriff's department did, however. Be SURE you have your State Land Permit
    AND that you put your yellow parking permit in plain sight when you park.
    The officer mentioned that he'd made $2500 for the governor so far this
    morning. I'd count on being checked anytime you're out there between now
    and race day.
    Nice...good to know they're keeping us safe...
    Ride more; post less...

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    We rode the course today, and parked at the race venue area. No signs of officials patrolling where we were. The course is in good condition but very dry and has some sneaky sandy spots. I hit a huge rut barreling down one of the *****es and augered in. I am now the proud owner of an attractive road rash from the back of my right shoulder all the way to the knee. This is the infamous "broken collarbone" wash, glad it was just skin!

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    I am headed out there in about 15min. I don't expect there will be any L.O.'s out there at this hour... I plan on riding 4 loops should be done by early afternoon, say hi if you see a guy on a all carbon fetish.

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    More info - enforcement clarifications

    Quote Originally Posted by slugobikes
    The following is a note from a buddy that was out there today.

    However - the above wouldn't prompt me to send this out. The visit from the
    Sheriff's department did, however. Be SURE you have your State Land Permit
    AND that you put your yellow parking permit in plain sight when you park.
    The officer mentioned that he'd made $2500 for the governor so far this
    morning. I'd count on being checked anytime you're out there between now
    and race day.

    Every year, it's a pattern of selective enforcement.

    I just hung up with the land department minutes ago from a 'fact-finding' call.

    Law/Enforcement Clarifications: I've seen it posted, previously and on other forums, that a hunting or fishing permit will suffice for state land use. FALSE - If not actively engaged in hunting or fishing you ARE NOT COVERED and will be issued a ticket.

    Obtaining permit: While it is true that you CAN mail in your application, wait for processing and return mail, (approval is merely a formality), you can get 'instant processing' by obtaining/returning yur permit form IN PERSON to:

    1616 W Adams St
    Phoenix, AZ 85007

    50 Year Trail Clarification: No permit needed for non-commercial trail use. Due to no 'official parking areas' to park your car on state land to ride 50 Year Trail, you need a permit. I believe some of the parking discrepencies will be rectified upon finalization and completion of the new recreation and parking areas along Lago Del Oro Parkway.
    CJ
    WOW Arizona!

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