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    Overlook & Onceler with Rockman

    A montage of a great ride. Overlook and AZ-Onceler. Grass to the handlebars. With Rockman, natch.
    Music: Rocks & Daggers -- Noah and the Whale
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockychrysler View Post
    A montage of a great ride. Overlook and AZ-Onceler. Grass to the handlebars. With Rockman, natch.
    Music: Rocks & Daggers -- Noah and the Whale
    Enjoy
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    Nice video. I loved that tall log roll. It is fun taking a large fallen tree like the one in the video and make a user friendly mountain bike feature out of it. I think the camera needs to be tilted up slightly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
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    Nice video. I loved that tall log roll. It is fun taking a large fallen tree like the one in the video and make a user friendly mountain bike feature out of it. I think the camera needs to be tilted up slightly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
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    Nice video. I loved that tall log roll. It is fun taking a large fallen tree like the one in the video and make a user friendly mountain bike feature out of it. I think the camera needs to be tilted up slightly.



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    i didn't click-thru on your derail, traildoc. and i'm not sure why you decided to include your issues in my post.

    i don't post often. and i don't know you personally. but i've been around long enough, and a whole lot longer than you, so I know: the best and right thing to do would be for you to remove it using the 'edit' button at the bottom of your post and let me have my moment.

    anything less would be lame.

    thanks.
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    I thought I posted up and "awesome" or something for your video, but maybe I didn't? I am now and did remark that I haven't hit any of that trail before. Hmmmm, I do have to drive to Idaho on Tuesday, and could take the Flag route instead of Vegoose....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockychrysler View Post
    A montage of a great ride. Overlook and AZ-Onceler. Grass to the handlebars. With Rockman, natch.
    Music: Rocks & Daggers -- Noah and the Whale
    Enjoy

    Swell video Rocky, Goodonya. The 3 of us are due for another ride together, let's make it happen before Sedona season, above 7000k. The mystery of my gone missing "partytime" tablecloth has been solved.Rockman pinched it and fashioned up a sweet riding shirt.2 Wheels Good.

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    Great tune....goes well with the curvy trail action....I love the late summer grasses.




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    Quote Originally Posted by elrancho66 View Post
    Swell video Rocky, Goodonya. The 3 of us are due for another ride together, let's make it happen before Sedona season, above 7000k. The mystery of my gone missing "partytime" tablecloth has been solved.Rockman pinched it and fashioned up a sweet riding shirt.2 Wheels Good.
    Glad you found your tablecloth. I had guessed rockman made that shirt out of an old semaphore flag left over from his days in the merchant marine.

    And ur right. We are long past due for a ride together. Stop going so early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockychrysler View Post
    i didn't click-thru on your derail, traildoc. and i'm not sure why you decided to include your issues in my post.

    i don't post often. and i don't know you personally. but i've been around long enough, and a whole lot longer than you, so I know: the best and right thing to do would be for you to remove it using the 'edit' button at the bottom of your post and let me have my moment.

    anything less would be lame.

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    Cool video ! RC


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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwork View Post
    Cool video ! RC


    TD your are a piece of work!
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    Please explain, I did as requested. I am sure you didn't look at the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockychrysler View Post
    Glad you found your tablecloth. I had guessed rockman made that shirt out of an old semaphore flag left over from his days in the merchant marine.

    And ur right. We are long past due for a ride together. Stop going so early.
    Come on, that sweatshop-free organically grown European hemp shirt cost a lot of coin. Nice vid, Rocky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
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    Nice video. I loved that tall log roll. It is fun taking a large fallen tree like the one in the video and make a user friendly mountain bike feature out of it. I think the camera needs to be tilted up slightly..

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    Log rolls are an excelent example of lazy trailbuilding. That is why a lot of trails up here become lame. Get out on a hike W/ a cahin saw. Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinatorj View Post
    Log rolls are an excelent example of lazy trailbuilding. That is why a lot of trails up here become lame. Get out on a hike W/ a cahin saw. Just my .02
    Your sarcasm is well noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstem View Post
    I thought I posted up and "awesome" or something for your video, but maybe I didn't? I am now and did remark that I haven't hit any of that trail before. Hmmmm, I do have to drive to Idaho on Tuesday, and could take the Flag route instead of Vegoose....
    Overlook is a good option to have when there's 100 cars parked at the bottom of Schultz. I think we saw 3 riders total on a 3 hour ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    Your sarcasm is well noted.

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    Comon now, I have seen your hand Chain saw in action. Gotta admit it works well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinatorj View Post
    Comon now, I have seen your hand Chain saw in action. Gotta admit it works well.
    sin:

    W/o you and I posting this thread is going to come to an end SOON.

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    Overlook........nice! I forgot about that trail, haven't been on it for around 6 or so years.

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    Nice work RC. That video quality pretty good for the $20 you spent on the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    Overlook is a good option to have when there's 100 cars parked at the bottom of Schultz. I think we saw 3 riders total on a 3 hour ride.
    hows it looking this year... has it seen any help? only rode it a couple times last year and basically wrote it off and havent ridden it this year. used to love going up there as it maxes out the vert you can get on that side of the pass but the trail was getting pretty bad in places.

    btw- i dont pretend to have the time to do much significant trail work... im happy if i get to ride once a week. not *****ing... just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending View Post
    hows it looking this year... has it seen any help? only rode it a couple times last year and basically wrote it off and havent ridden it this year. used to love going up there as it maxes out the vert you can get on that side of the pass but the trail was getting pretty bad in places.

    btw- i dont pretend to have the time to do much significant trail work... im happy if i get to ride once a week. not *****ing... just curious.
    It's in good shape although some of the fall line sections have continued to eroded leading to braiding. Still a really fun techy dodgefest. You have to be on your game to carry much speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending View Post
    hows it looking this year... has it seen any help? only rode it a couple times last year and basically wrote it off and havent ridden it this year. used to love going up there as it maxes out the vert you can get on that side of the pass but the trail was getting pretty bad in places.

    btw- i dont pretend to have the time to do much significant trail work... im happy if i get to ride once a week. not *****ing... just curious.
    it sees minimal use anymore, i think. to the point that it almost disappears as it crosses the large meadow. otherwise, rockman's right. a dodgefest. pinball. lotsa fun! well worth the few minutes of dirt road climbing from newham.
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    right on... sounds like it is likely in the same condition it has been for a couple years now. back in my hardtail days i used to do the direct shot up old weatherford road from pipeline, all they way up rather than climbing newham/secret. that was always painful.

    ill have to do my annual ride up there just to "check" it... will take newham, though... lol. love that viewpoint at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending View Post
    right on... sounds like it is likely in the same condition it has been for a couple years now. back in my hardtail days i used to do the direct shot up old weatherford road from pipeline, all they way up rather than climbing newham/secret. that was always painful.

    ill have to do my annual ride up there just to "check" it... will take newham, though... lol. love that viewpoint at the top.
    If you haven't been over that way in awhile the last bit of the Secret reroute (Double Agent) makes for a sweet climb to get to Newham or the top of Supermoto. It starts opposite of Rocky Moto and you can take the Fig Trail over it from the top of Moto. Skips the pipeline.

    I can't quite say I miss climbing up Old Weatherford but it certainly was a test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    I can't quite say I miss climbing up Old Weatherford but it certainly was a test.
    i think it's neat that you can see old weatherford road from a couple spots as you're climbing upper dogfood. i don't miss it either.

    btw: i think upper dogfood's a great trail, right where we needed it. all-hail mystery-moto trailbuilders!
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    i didn't click-thru on your derail, traildoc. and i'm not sure why you decided to include your issues in my post.

    i don't post often. and i don't know you personally. but i've been around long enough, and a whole lot longer than you, so I know: the best and right thing to do would be for you to remove it using the 'edit' button at the bottom of your post and let me have my moment.

    anything less would be lame.

    thanks.

    Here comes the cavalry, TD.

    I don't have any idea what TD said to get your panties so bunched up, nor do I care. Both you and Rockman have jumped into "my" threads and taken every cheap shot you can, just to get a little attention and cred. TD has total immunity in my eyes. He has earned it. You have not.

    In hope of causing Rockman's head to explode, I'll say it yet again, slightly butchering Jack Nicholson's famous lines;

    Son, we live in a world that has trails, and those trails have to be built and maintained by men with tools. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Rockman? We have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for the way your trails use to be, and you curse me and TD. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. That Rocky Ridge's death, while tragic, probably saved bikers lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves trails. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us on that trail, you need us on that trail. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent building and maintaining mountain biking trails. You use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rides on the trails we build, restore, and maintain, with hundreds of hours of back-breaking work, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, We suggest you pick up a pick mattock, and get your lazy ass to work. Either way, We don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigal Son View Post
    Here comes the cavalry, TD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigal Son View Post
    Here comes the cavalry, TD.

    I don't have any idea what TD said to get your panties so bunched up, nor do I care. Both you and Rockman have jumped into "my" threads and taken every cheap shot you can, just to get a little attention and cred. TD has total immunity in my eyes. He has earned it. You have not.

    In hope of causing Rockman's head to explode, I'll say it yet again, slightly butchering Jack Nicholson's famous lines;

    Son, we live in a world that has trails, and those trails have to be built and maintained by men with tools. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Rockman? We have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for the way your trails use to be, and you curse me and TD. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. That Rocky Ridge's death, while tragic, probably saved bikers lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves trails. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us on that trail, you need us on that trail. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent building and maintaining mountain biking trails. You use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rides on the trails we build, restore, and maintain, with hundreds of hours of back-breaking work, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, We suggest you pick up a pick mattock, and get your lazy ass to work. Either way, We don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
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    thanks for the vid, i haven't hit that one in a year or 2. *heart* Funny you guys don't ride it much, when i first learned of it I hit it->Secret->Supermoto every Flag trip for a couple years. love the variety of challenges on that trail. When i figured out how to get there without Weatherford it was a serious major highlight of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigal Son View Post
    Here comes the cavalry, TD.

    I don't have any idea what TD said to get your panties so bunched up, nor do I care. Both you and Rockman have jumped into "my" threads and taken every cheap shot you can, just to get a little attention and cred. TD has total immunity in my eyes. He has earned it. You have not.

    In hope of causing Rockman's head to explode, I'll say it yet again, slightly butchering Jack Nicholson's famous lines;

    Son, we live in a world that has trails, and those trails have to be built and maintained by men with tools. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Rockman? We have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for the way your trails use to be, and you curse me and TD. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. That Rocky Ridge's death, while tragic, probably saved bikers lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves trails. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us on that trail, you need us on that trail. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent building and maintaining mountain biking trails. You use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rides on the trails we build, restore, and maintain, with hundreds of hours of back-breaking work, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, We suggest you pick up a pick mattock, and get your lazy ass to work. Either way, We don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigal Son View Post
    Here comes the cavalry, TD.

    I don't have any idea what TD said to get your panties so bunched up, nor do I care. Both you and Rockman have jumped into "my" threads and taken every cheap shot you can, just to get a little attention and cred. TD has total immunity in my eyes. He has earned it. You have not.

    In hope of causing Rockman's head to explode, I'll say it yet again, slightly butchering Jack Nicholson's famous lines;

    Son, we live in a world that has trails, and those trails have to be built and maintained by men with tools. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Rockman? We have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for the way your trails use to be, and you curse me and TD. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. That Rocky Ridge's death, while tragic, probably saved bikers lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves trails. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us on that trail, you need us on that trail. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent building and maintaining mountain biking trails. You use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rides on the trails we build, restore, and maintain, with hundreds of hours of back-breaking work, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, We suggest you pick up a pick mattock, and get your lazy ass to work. Either way, We don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
    Quit hiding your insecurities with anger, its annoying. Somebody call this guy a whaaambulance
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigal Son View Post
    Here comes the cavalry, TD.

    I don't have any idea what TD said to get your panties so bunched up, nor do I care. Both you and Rockman have jumped into "my" threads and taken every cheap shot you can, just to get a little attention and cred. TD has total immunity in my eyes. He has earned it. You have not.

    In hope of causing Rockman's head to explode, I'll say it yet again, slightly butchering Jack Nicholson's famous lines;

    Son, we live in a world that has trails, and those trails have to be built and maintained by men with tools. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Rockman? We have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for the way your trails use to be, and you curse me and TD. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know. That Rocky Ridge's death, while tragic, probably saved bikers lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves trails. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us on that trail, you need us on that trail. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent building and maintaining mountain biking trails. You use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a man who rides on the trails we build, restore, and maintain, with hundreds of hours of back-breaking work, and then questions the manner in which we provide it. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, We suggest you pick up a pick mattock, and get your lazy ass to work. Either way, We don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
    TPS:

    If this helps any I use rockman a lot to get Sedona intel. HE has admitted to me that he himself is in professional counceling for not helping out much with the HARD WORK aspect of trail improvements. I believe with your input and the professional counceling he is getting he will be ready to work on that new trail idea CP came up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    TPS:

    If this helps any I use rockman a lot to get Sedona intel. HE has admitted to me that he himself is in professional counceling for not helping out much with the HARD WORK aspect of trail improvements. I believe with your input and the professional counceling he is getting he will be ready to work on that new trail idea CP came up with.

    TD

    Next fall, approximately half of the people who use MTBR will vote. Approximately half of that group will vote for President Obama. Since there is no logical reason for doing so, I figure they actually like sanctimonious idealogues. So they should embrace the both of us, right?

    TD / TPS in 2012. Even more hope and change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigal Son View Post
    Next fall, approximately half of the people who use MTBR will vote. Approximately half of that group will vote for President Obama. Since there is no logical reason for doing so, I figure they actually like sanctimonious idealogues. So they should embrace the both of us, right?

    TD / TPS in 2012. Even more hope and change.
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    I was worried that you had lost your since of humor, obviously I was wrong. Just think how much ammunition the TD & TBS haters would have from our previous MTBR posts to trash us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prodigal Son View Post
    they actually like sanctimonious idealogues. So they should embrace the both of us, right?.
    uncommonly succinct. and perhaps, at-once, both the funniest and truest words you've ever written here. it's just too bad you didn't write them in Comic Sans... then they would have been perfect!
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    Quote Originally Posted by traildoc View Post
    TPS:

    If this helps any I use rockman a lot to get Sedona intel. HE has admitted to me that he himself is in professional counceling for not helping out much with the HARD WORK aspect of trail improvements. I believe with your input and the professional counceling he is getting he will be ready to work on that new trail idea CP came up with.

    TD
    When I'm retired and my kids are grown up and have flown the coop I will strive to ascend to your's and TPS's level of dedication. Until then I'll try and do my part and show up for the occasional trail day and clean out drains and such when the opportunity presents itself. Otherwise, I'll continue to support our local advocacy efforts.

    Keep on trolling and rolling. Happy trails.
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    [QUOTE=rockman;8404222]When I'm retired and my kids are grown up and have flown the coop I will strive to ascend to your's and TPS's level of dedication. Until then I'll try and do my part and show up for the occasional trail day and clean out drains and such on my when when the opportunity presents itself. Otherwise, I'll continue to support our local advocacy efforts.

    Keep on trolling and rolling. Happy trails.[/QUOTE

    Rock:

    If I live long enough to see you retire I will look forward to working with you on the occasional maintenance of the backside of Highline, hopefully it will be adopted by then. While we are working you can teach me about all the different geology going on around there.

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    [QUOTE=traildoc;8404313]
    Quote Originally Posted by rockman View Post
    When I'm retired and my kids are grown up and have flown the coop I will strive to ascend to your's and TPS's level of dedication. Until then I'll try and do my part and show up for the occasional trail day and clean out drains and such on my when when the opportunity presents itself. Otherwise, I'll continue to support our local advocacy efforts.

    Keep on trolling and rolling. Happy trails.[/QUOTE

    Rock:

    If I live long enough to see you retire I will look forward to working with you on the occasional maintenance of the backside of Highline, hopefully it will be adopted by then. While we are working you can teach me about all the different geology going on around there.

    TD
    I'd love to add some love to one of my favorite Sedona techy descents. The last time I volunteered to help you traded me out for the HO cribbing expert.

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    I'd love to add some love to one of my favorite Sedona techy descents. The last time I volunteered to help you traded me out for the HO cribbing expert.
    R:

    I wanted to point out to TPS that you actually were going to help me do some improvements on Bell Rock Pathway, but I was able to get the point person on Hangover and Hog Heaven to help me so you were replaced by someone with a little more experience. I didn't want to expose your darkside w/o you coming out of the closet on your own.

    TD

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