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    Mingus Mountain 8-27-11

    Is 6 weeks enough notice get a big gang to assault Mingus Mountain?

    Mr, the Mrs, and handful of friends are gonna be "camping" in the Playground Group Campground on Mingus Mountain the weekend of 8-27 this year. There's no way I'm going up there without riding, even if it's by myself, so I'm inviting anyone who wants to get some action to come up and join me for some riding Saturday the 27th.

    I know absolutely nothing about the area except that it's near 7500' elevation so it's gotta be loads cooler than the valley but I've seen posts here and there about shredding Mingus up so it's gotta be some good riding. I'll start researching the trails even though I'm sure many of you will be able to post your own trips, pics, videos, and maps. If we can get enough people maybe we can even do some redneck shuttling?

    So, post up if you're interested and if you know the trails and have maps or GPS logs let's see them as well!

    EDIT: I just wanted to clarify that this is just an invitation to come up and ride that Saturday. I'm not in charge of the campsite reservations and don't wanna make it look to the friend that is arranging this as though I'm bringing a bunch of people they don't know to their camp. You would be more than welcome to hang out with us and ride with me Sat. (I doubt anyone else in this group will be riding) but you'll have to provide your own transportation to and from as well as have your own sleeping accommodations if you plan on staying Friday or Saturday night.

    Again, anyone is welcome but don't plan on jumping in and camping with our group. If it were my party you'd be welcome... but it's not.
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    Put me down as tentative. Sounds like it would be a fun trip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcsxj View Post
    Put me down as tentative. Sounds like it would be a fun trip!
    Cool James... I edited the original post so please read that edit section. You'll need to provide your own transportation and, if you plan to stay either night, your own sleeping arrangements. If you just wanna come up and ride Sat. afternoon you are more than welcome, as is anyone. I wasn't clear enough and didn't want anyone thinking it was an invite to join my friend's group to camp two nights with us.

    Hopefully, you and a few others can make it. Otherwise I'll be posting another "look at me" video after we get back... I prefer if it's a "look at us" video

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    Tenative as well
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    Yeah I was planning on the day trip anyways. Depending how many other people post up I could bring a few up with me. Armada holds 7 and I have access to a small trailer to put the bikes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Tenative as well
    Damn... bringing those Prescott legs to make me look silly again? Guess I'd better get out more often than once a week? (I keep telling myself that.)

    Quote Originally Posted by jcsxj View Post
    Yeah I was planning on the day trip anyways. Depending how many other people post up I could bring a few up with me. Armada holds 7 and I have access to a small trailer to put the bikes in.
    Sweet! That oughta help entice a few people

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    Damn... bringing those Prescott legs to make me look silly again? Guess I'd better get out more often than once a week? (I keep telling myself that.)

    Sweet! That oughta help entice a few people
    Meh, I don't get to ride all that much. I just make up for it by stupidly running up and down mountains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Meh, I don't get to ride all that much. I just make up for it by stupidly running up and down mountains.
    Well, whatever you are doing it's working. Plus, you're used to the extra altitude. Prescott is around 5000'. The top of Mingus is 7500' so you are lots closer to altitude than us here at 1000'.

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    Cross posted from http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=727544

    Quote Originally Posted by hoosker in a PM
    Some beta on mingus if you have not already got it; If you take the 28/111/533 route it is all downhill from the start to the end of 533. At that point you can climb back via the hwy, 28, or 533. 533 is the most climb friendly as it is not as technical as 28. Either way it is a bear of a climb. Gaddes canyon trail would be a good choice to as long as it's not covered in deadfall, and it is not that bad of a climb back.
    This run in the above video is looking like a possibility. If James brings the truck & trailer I'm sure I can talk the Mrs into the driving so we can all ride. Looks like fun!

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    This is the only weekend this fall I'll be out of town for sure. Wish I could make this but business calls. I'm sure I'll hook up with all of you after the summer(hopefully get some wind back in my lungs and a new bike)

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    Hell yeah mike! Looks like a good time.

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    BUMP... couple weekends away...

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    I live on Mingus and have never ridden it, I might try to make it up there. Let ya know for sure as it gets closer.

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    Can't make it but will harrass you for ride video and pics!

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    All right... the weekend is winding down and you all must be starting to think about next weekend? Mingus is here and I'll ride by myself but after rewatching that video again I'm stoked all over to hit that sh|t. Hopefully, you are as well.

    Post up if you'll be able to make it. Route will be dependent on how many people can make it and what we have to carry the bikes.

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    What time and where to meet? I am hopeful to have my truck put back together before Sat, otherwise I may have to bum a ride from the Cottonwood side. How many runs?

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    The turnoff to the southwest right before the Group Campground about 2 miles in on Forest Road 104. Probably meet there between 8 & 9a.



    We'll shuttle or pedal until we are toast. Keep in mind we may not have a shuttle vehicle so we may be bombing down and then riding back up...
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    Weird. My post didn't appear. I was asking the same thing about planned start time. I am driving from Phoenix - maybe a two hour drive - and my full size truck can haul a bunch of bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    Weird. My post didn't appear. I was asking the same thing about planned start time. I am driving from Phoenix - maybe a two hour drive - and my full size truck can haul a bunch of bikes.
    What time u leaving and when u planning on heading back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9 View Post
    What time u leaving and when u planning on heading back?
    Not sure just yet. Probably leave no later than 7a if we're riding at 9.

    PM coming your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9 View Post
    What time u leaving and when u planning on heading back?
    Hell yeah drew, you gotta go. Just think of all the trouble we can all get ourselves into up there. It's going to be good times for sure!

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    Mike, if I have my new fork by then, I might make this. It was supposed to ship out today so I should have it. Hopefully it works out. I'd love to shuttle Mingus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunerinaz View Post
    Mike, if I have my new fork by then, I might make this.
    If my pretty blue rockers get here in time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    There appears to be a big clearing right by the Group Campground about 2 miles in on Forest Road 104. Probably meet there between 8 & 9a.



    We'll shuttle or pedal until we are toast. Keep in mind we may not have a shuttle vehicle so we may be bombing down and then riding back up...
    Yo BigO, that spot you have pointed out is the methodist church campground and home sites = private property. A better spot is right before that which is the turn off to 28th st TH going south. Just FYI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    If my pretty blue rockers get here in time...
    What? Now you putting blue rockers on your ride?

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    Cenobuns expressed an interest in Flag but haven't heard anything since..

    Are you a for sure, James? You're last post sounded like a yes but haven't specifically heard a yes or no. Gonna have the people wagon & trailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by helimech View Post
    Yo BigO, that spot you have pointed out is the methodist church campground and home sites = private property. A better spot is right before that which is the turn off to 28th st TH going south. Just FYI
    Oooh. Good to know. Can't tell squat from the Google overview. Updated post coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post

    Oooh. Good to know. Can't tell squat from the Google overview. Updated post coming...
    My bad, yes if you go south to the 110TH on 9004N like your map shows you should be good. Have fun.
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    Idk if ill make it, it depends on how the rest of the week goes.
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    I'll know today if I'm a go..............Drew

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    I'm a go, but I won't have the people wagon. I'm planning on bumming a ride with Barry. Worst case scenerio I'll take the Elantra as it gets good gas mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcsxj View Post
    I'm a go, but I won't have the people wagon. I'm planning on bumming a ride with Barry. Worst case scenerio I'll take the Elantra as it gets good gas mileage.
    Cool. Sounds like we may be either pedaling everything or shuttling with Barry's truck if he's OK with that. I would feel terrible if we did any damage to his bodywork or paint

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    I have a question for those of you who have ridden Mingus....I am used to riding clipless, should I stick to what I am used to or is it hairy enough for flats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    I have a question for those of you who have ridden Mingus....I am used to riding clipless, should I stick to what I am used to or is it hairy enough for flats?
    I ride SPDs for everything. Did the Flag DH two weekends ago on them as well as the Wed SoMo shuttles.. If you are used to clipless stick with 'em. But, if you wanna run flats and are comfortable, knock yourself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    I have a question for those of you who have ridden Mingus....I am used to riding clipless, should I stick to what I am used to or is it hairy enough for flats?
    You should stick to what you know. Clips work on all of it. The only trail where you might have a problem is right at the start of the drop into 28th st. Lots of chunk on that section.
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    Thanks, I will stick with the SPD's, if my truck isn't still in a million little pieces, I will come and give it a go.

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    I have to work on Saturday, you guys have fun !

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    Cool. Sounds like we may be either pedaling everything or shuttling with Barry's truck if he's OK with that. I would feel terrible if we did any damage to his bodywork or paint
    Using my truck to shuttle is fine. I have nothing resembling a tailgate pad and am rather unconcerned about paint transfer. If anyone is concerned about their bike, it would be advsied to bring a makeshift pad of some sort.

    Do we have a shuttle driver (or two depending on volume of people I suppose) or will we be taking turns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    Using my truck to shuttle is fine. I have nothing resembling a tailgate pad and am rather unconcerned about paint transfer. If anyone is concerned about their bike, it would be advsied to bring a makeshift pad of some sort.

    Do we have a shuttle driver (or two depending on volume of people I suppose) or will we be taking turns?

    I think Mike was going to have his wife shuttle for us. How wide is your tailgate? I have a nice chunk of left over carpet and could cut a piece off if needed.

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    It's a full size box so I guess that makes it 4' wide. Don't ruin good carpet if you have a use for it. I might be able to scrounge something up.

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    I'll cut a piece off for it. The carpet has been sitting rolled up in the garage since I finished a small remodel project (about two years ago.....). I've tried to throw it away at least five times now, but my wife keeps saying "no don't throw it away, what if we need a piece later". Well just so happens she was right, I do need a piece....it's just not for the house

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcsxj View Post
    I think Mike was going to have his wife shuttle for us.
    I'll ask her but don't know if she'll be receptive to the idea of me bringing all MY friends up and riding bikes on OUR trip with OUR friends... if you know what I mean.

    We can always take turns. I'm not positive but I don't think it's quite as much work getting from the top to the bottom for either the rider or vehicle so I think we'll be able to get plenty of runs in

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    I'll ask her but don't know if she'll be receptive to the idea of me bringing all MY friends up and riding bikes on OUR trip with OUR friends... if you know what I mean.

    We can always take turns. I'm not positive but I don't think it's quite as much work getting from the top to the bottom for either the rider or vehicle so I think we'll be able to get plenty of runs in
    True.
    Yeah we can take turns or depending how many cars we have and how long the drive up / down the mountain is we could leave one vehicle at the bottom, shuttle up, bomb down, two take off in the vehicle left at the bottom to retrieve the one at the top and then head back down to start the trip over again. Any idea how long the drive is to the top? Either way fun will be had!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcsxj View Post
    Yeah we can take turns or depending how many cars we have and how long the drive up / down the mountain is we could leave one vehicle at the bottom, shuttle up, bomb down, two take off in the vehicle left at the bottom to retrieve the one at the top and then head back down to start the trip over again. Any idea how long the drive is to the top? Either way fun will be had!
    Looks like its about six miles from the bottom of the trail to the start of the trail.

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    I'm out. Just got word I won't have my fork in time

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    If there is room for one more, I'm in! I have a moving mat that i made into a tailgate cover for shuttling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAM View Post
    If there is room for one more, I'm in! I have a moving mat that i made into a tailgate cover for shuttling.
    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
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    So far it's just 3 of us. Drew? You in? Didn't see a yay or nay...

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    I can haul one other person comfortably from here to Mingus and that seat is taken at the moment. Three adults is doable I suppose but it'd be cozy.

    I can take many bikes, probably at least six (6) and we can certainly accommodate several people and bikes in my truck for shuttle purposes once we're there. If someone wants to take a carload of people, James and I can haul some bikes in my truck, Just an option with some logistics to sort out before leaving the valley.

    I have a 16' tandem axle car hauler too, but there's no good way of securing bikes at the moment, and to fabricate something would take time I don't really have...but think of the number of bikes you could haul!

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    Barry, might join u guys for a few runs if I don't go to Flag. I need to get redemption on that mtn for breaking my leg.
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    We are just starting to tear my truck apart, wish us luck!! This heat just may kill us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Barry, might join u guys for a few runs if I don't go to Flag. I need to get redemption on that mtn for breaking my leg.
    Cool. I think it would be great to have someone with us that knows the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    We are just starting to tear my truck apart, wish us luck!! This heat just may kill us.
    Ugh. I hope you're at least inside or can get some shade over your work area.

    I spent Sunday afternoon and part of Monday morning replacing pretty much the whole front end (Pitman arm, idler arm and bracket, tie rod ends and adjusters) and two hours last night replacing all the shocks. Temperatures were around 110░ F in the valley, and all this on the concrete of my non-covered driveway. I literally have burns on my back from the heat radiating off the concrete. It was hot! Sunday and Monday I popped up an EZ Up style awning which really helped, but ambient temps were still pretty nasty.

    Uhh...let's see...beats frost bite?

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    Thanks for the EZ up hint....I forgot we had one. Shade for now, plus this wonderful cloud cover is keeping it bearable. A dip in the pool every 15 min is nice too. The turbo is off which is the hardest part. I am now relegated to master tire installer. FUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by azdog View Post
    Barry, might join u guys for a few runs if I don't go to Flag. I need to get redemption on that mtn for breaking my leg.
    Cool. I think it would be great to have someone with us that knows the trails.
    Umm... he broke his leg last time up there He either doesn't know the trails or is more prone to wrecking than me

    Plus, what's the worst that can happen?

    Looking forward to more people

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    Umm... he broke his leg last time up there He either doesn't know the trails or is more prone to wrecking than me

    Plus, what's the worst that can happen?

    Looking forward to more people
    That was my first and only wreck up there. Trail gave way and tucked my leg under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    Umm... he broke his leg last time up there He either doesn't know the trails or is more prone to wrecking than me

    Plus, what's the worst that can happen?

    Looking forward to more people
    Yeah, I saw that thread after I originally posted up as tentative......I was like uh, maybe I should re-think this! Then I was like F-IT.....It will still be fun!!!

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    Anyone know the temps up there? I can get Prescott temps easy but the mountain is quite a bit higher so don't know where to look for temps. Not worried about the days, wondering about the nights we'll be camping.

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    Do we wanna meet where 104 meets 413 or southwest of there where 413 has that little turn where trail 28 starts?

    DAM is in and will have another truck plus knows the routes so if dog doesn't show we'll have another to make sure we don't get lost

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    There is a weather station down and west from the camping area at 6120ft, it says 65 degrees is the forecast for that station. Sat high says 83 chance of thunderstorm. I can keep you updated if you want.

    My truck is going to be down for at least a week, turbo needs a rebuild. If I can squeeze my bike into my sports car, I can come. If some nice sole with a truck would be willing to pick me up where the dirt road starts at the top, I would be able to go. Can't drive the car on the dirt road.

    So, if there is room for me and I can catch a ride, I will mount some more DH worthy tires on my bike today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    There is a weather station down and west from the camping area at 6120ft, it says 65 degrees is the forecast for that station. Sat high says 83 chance of thunderstorm. I can keep you updated if you want.
    High of 83 low of 65? That doesn't sound bad. I thought it would be cooler. Don't really need updates but just confirm roughly what the low will be Fri & Sat night and I'll be happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    My truck is going to be down for at least a week, turbo needs a rebuild. If I can squeeze my bike into my sports car, I can come. If some nice sole with a truck would be willing to pick me up where the dirt road starts at the top, I would be able to go. Can't drive the car on the dirt road.
    I don't know if there's room for you & your bike but I'll let Barry chime in. Or maybe DAM will chime in first. Does the dirt road where you wanna meet start right off 89?

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    It will be cooler at the top where you will be, you will be over a 1000 ft higher. The dirt road starts right off 89A.

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    I can pick you up at the gravel. Just PM me your number so we can coordinate.

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    PM sent, thanks so much. I shall change my tires now.

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    I will work with whomever to help make it as good a day as possible. My truck doesn't accomodate many passengers, but if one doesn't mind short rides in the bed of the truck, we're good. It is a full size pickup with ample room for bikes.

    As to where to meet, I do not have a good frame of reference to know one way or the other so would probably defer to motochick, DAM or azdog on those topics. Just let me know!

    We should all probably exchange telephone numbers by PM or email to ensure meeting up at the right time and place.

    I know at least some of the Flagstaff trails tend to be better in the the wet, mostly, but what are the ones on Mingus like when they get rain?
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    The only time I was up on Mingus when it was wet, was last Sept after a huge rain storm....it was so slimy muddy, it was unrideable. That was after days of unusually heavy rain so I doubt that would happen this Sat with the forecast. Other then that experience, I know nothing.

    Since I am last on board, I will ride in the bed if need be.

    If Mike can update the who is going list, I will PM you all my #.

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    To the best of my knowledge:

    Tentative:
    azdog (if no Flag)

    For sure:
    big0mike
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    motochick (DAM to pick up at 89A/FR104)
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    Let's say we meet at the start of 28:


    click the map for a larger version

    Is there a TH or turnoff of some kind at the end of 28/533? Zooming into GoogleMaps it looks like there's a turnoff then a little lot just beyond a cattle guard. That's good so we won't have to go looking for us at the end

    Since we obviously have the shuttle happening we can make several runs:

    28 (supposed to be pretty chunky)
    28 -> 111 -> 533

    And, since DAM knows the area, we may hit some other trails? I don't know the names he mentioned but I'm game for most anything...
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    Yes, there is a nice big parking area on the opposite side of the road almost right across from the end of the trails. If there isn't anyone parked at the actual entrance/exit, then we can park there.

    Sending my ph# to you all....please don't call after 9pm....I gotta get up early to ride road!

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    Got an activity smack dab in the middle of Saturday. Sorry!
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    I say we meet at the intersection of 104 and 413. At this intersection there is a camp site. I'm guessing you (BOM) want to meet at the top because of where your camping. I suggest that we do 533 (smoother and has good flow) first for a warm up, then whatever from there. any thoughts?

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    I was thinking at the START label on the map where 28 starts since that's where we'd be starting. The campsights are closer to 104/413 and I figured I'd ride my bike from the campsight to the top of 28. But, 104/413 is fine since it's closer to camp.

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    James and I plan to be there around 9:00a, hopefully no later. We'll head to the 104/413 intersection and look lost until someone takes pity on us.

    I have Brenda and Mike's numbers.

    I like the idea of a warm-up ride, not that it'll help that much in my case. I do have a shorter stem (50mm down from 70mm) and wider bars (30" up from 28') to try out.

    Probably GoPro footage for me, this trip, and likely no GPS. I have managed through the cumulative effect of various and abundant crashes to break the case of the GoPro and nearly tear the antenna off the GPS. It kind of just dangles there at the moment. Neither situation will be rectified by Saturday am, I suspect. Oh well.

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    Either or works for me, not trying to step on ant toes.

    A little entertainment for this Friday.......

    My second time to Mingus and I wanted this jump, got scared and tried to shut it down. That didn't work

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    DC- those changes sound like they should make a big difference. What bike are you riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAM View Post
    DC- those changes sound like they should make a big difference. What bike are you riding?
    I will be riding (or HABing, it likes to go for walks ) my 2010 Marin Attack Trail. It's basically a 6" FR/AM sort of bike if you're not familiar.

    Were you still planning to bring your home made tailgate cover? If so, are we able to use it? If not, no worries, just let me know and we'll figure out another option.

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    That will work great! I will be bringing the TG cover and of course you can use it. Just talked to motogirl and were set. I think a friend of mine will be coming too, he says he's 96.2% in. Whatever that means? Lookin' forward to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAM View Post
    That will work great! I will be bringing the TG cover and of course you can use it. Just talked to motogirl and were set. I think a friend of mine will be coming too, he says he's 96.2% in. Whatever that means? Lookin' forward to it!
    Cool, thanks!

    See everyone up there tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    Were you still planning to bring your home made tailgate cover? If so, are we able to use it? If not, no worries, just let me know and we'll figure out another option.
    James doesn't have his carpet?

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    Either or works for me, not trying to step on ant toes.
    No toes to step on. Just wanna figure out the easiest place for people to find each other. We'll make it 9a at the intersection of 104/413 then

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    James doesn't have his carpet?

    It requires work and sacrificing carpet that matches his household carpet. If there's an existing solution, that's preferable. I think we're good to go thanks to DAM's generous offer.

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    Yeah I have it. I'll bring it just Incase we need it. See everyone tomorrow

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    I will bring a moving carpet in case as well....we may want it for sitting on in the bed. BTW it is pouring on Mingus right now and lots of lightning!! Hopefully it sticks around to cool things down a bit, it was quite warm this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    I will bring a moving carpet in case as well....we may want it for sitting on in the bed. BTW it is pouring on Mingus right now and lots of lightning!! Hopefully it sticks around to cool things down a bit, it was quite warm this morning.
    Yikes... Hope if calms down by the time we get there tonight or we'll be sleeping in the truck
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    Last night it started about 8pm and when I went to bed at 9pm it was still raining. Of course when I woke up this morning, no sign it had rained! Good luck up there tonite!

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    I'll be leaving shortly. See you all tomorrow morning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    I'll be leaving shortly. See you all tomorrow morning...
    Be safe!! Photo and video..........D

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    Now it looks like i wont be working till much later, i may head up there and do some riding.
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    Great day on the hill!

    Did everyone make it back or to wherever they were heading?

    I know Mike you're still up there. Thanks for prodding us to come up, it was awesome. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

    Great times with a great group!

    533 was especially a blast!

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    Yep, I was in my pool by 4pm! So great to meet all of you, everyone was so cool. Thanks for letting me tag-a-long, I learned a lot. Be safe.

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    Barry, did you have the GoPro with you?
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    Great day on the hill fo sho, it was a blast.

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    Great day on Mingus! Made it to flagpole safe and sound. Good times and a lot of laughs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunerinaz View Post
    Barry, did you have the GoPro with you?
    No, I left it at home because the case is cracked and did want to risk losing the camera.

    Pretty sure Mike had his rolling. Should bs some good stuff.

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    So did you guys shuttle or did you get stuck having to pedal?
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    We shuttled. The original intent was to use my truck, but Damon was gracious enough to let us use his crew cab. Thanks Damon! It really is a much nicer ride than my poor old truck. Pretty sure I got four runs in, which was just about right, but I think in total we had five runs.

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    Oh yeah. The new 50mm stem and 30" bars worked awesome. The extra 2" over the old 28" bars and 70mm stem made for way better control and stability just like I had expected. The shorter stem means adjusting climbing technique but like Damon pointed out I have some leeway to drop the bars a bit by pulling out a stem spacer.

    Might not bf do great on narrow trails but if is my SoMo bike afterall.

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    Making a double change can get interesting. Glad it worked for you.
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    Just got back and had a great time. Really fun trails... even the one with the cactus that left some spines in my backside 28 was AWESOME 'cause of the chunk and 533 was nice and smooth and flowy. It was similar to Flag the weekend before except not as steep so you didn't get moving as fast as quickly. A good trail for baby stepping your way up to the Flag trails. I'll be going through the video shortly and with any luck I'll have something up tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle64 View Post
    Making a double change can get interesting. Glad it worked for you.
    It was calculated so neither the positives nor negatives were surprising, except that I was really pleased with just how well it suited that style of riding.

    One more change and I will try it out at PMP and then SoMo in a few weeks.

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    Enjoy...

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    Nice video mike! Hopefully DAM will post up his videos too! I can't wait to get back out there again.

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    Great video, as always. That last fall looked painful!...............Drew

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    It was!

    Glad nobody was hurt, but thanks for the comedy.

    533 was just my speed and really enjoyed it. Have to try 28 next time out.

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    ^^^^It was THE finest representation of synchronized switchback crashing I have ever witnessed! Great video, I finally got to see this tree branch everyone kept talking about. I kept wondering whose tire skid that was, that abruptly stopped off the trail....DAM's! It was a blast, can't wait to do it again and nail those switchbacks.

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    WOW.

    Thanks for sharing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post


    It was!

    Glad nobody was hurt, but thanks for the comedy.

    533 was just my speed and really enjoyed it. Have to try 28 next time out.
    I heard James cried a little bit as well. I miss everything!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post


    It was!

    Glad nobody was hurt, but thanks for the comedy.

    533 was just my speed and really enjoyed it. Have to try 28 next time out.
    I thought it was funny as well! I was just hoping all my fingers would still be intact as I was bracing myself for impact with Mike's back wheel.

    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    ^^^^It was THE finest representation of synchronized switchback crashing I have ever witnessed! Great video, I finally got to see this tree branch everyone kept talking about. I kept wondering whose tire skid that was, that abruptly stopped off the trail....DAM's! It was a blast, can't wait to do it again and nail those switchbacks.

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    Synchronized switchback crashing....I like it

    Where was the tire skid you are talking about? In a straight or a turn? I skid off the trail on one of the loose right handers, I was carring way to much speed through that section. Had to jamb my foot in the ground right as the back tire went off the side. I don't know how it worked but I popped right back up on the trail.....hurt my back a little but better then going over the edge

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    I heard James cried a little bit as well. I miss everything!!!!
    Who said I cried???

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    The tire skid was more on a straight section with the exposure to the left....pretty sure it was the same spot DAM crashed on the first run.

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    Oh, not me then. I think mine was just past that spot. Good times! For not having to do much pedaling my legs are friggin SORE today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9 View Post
    I heard James cried a little bit as well. I miss everything!!!!
    I didn't hear him crying, but I did hear him laughing. Mike went down pretty good, James looked like he may have had a smidge more more prep time, maybe, as his get off was less dramatic and more of a defensive move.

    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    The tire skid was more on a straight section with the exposure to the left....pretty sure it was the same spot DAM crashed on the first run.
    I saw that one too. Was trying to figure out how whomever pulled that off managed to not go off the edge of the mountain.

    I tangled with the bike eating tree but to a lesser degree than Damon. That thing really sucks you in!

    Gotta get back there real soon -- sure enjoyed it.

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    Great stuff! Does anyone have the GPS tracks to these trails?
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    Great stuff! Does anyone have the GPS tracks to these trails?
    I took my GPS receiver but left it in the truck because the antenna is wanting to fall off. I think Mike had his running though. Maybe he'll share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    Great stuff! Does anyone have the GPS tracks to these trails?

    I haven't watched vid yet, but perhaps bigOmike's ever present gps might have the trax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    Great stuff! Does anyone have the GPS tracks to these trails?
    Were those the one's you PMd me about? I was thinking Flag for some reason... I know for sure I have 28 > 111 > 533 but I don't think I turned it on down 28. I double check when I get home.

    Quote Originally Posted by u2metoo View Post
    I haven't watched vid yet, but perhaps bigOmike's ever present gps might have the trax.
    And it was hanging in shame again... Until I cut it off and stuck it in my pack anyways.

    And I won't lie. My neck is a little sore today...

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    This is just 533. The trailhead isn't super easy to find. You drive longer than I expected on the fire road and there's a Y in the road where you go right. Actually, if you believe bing there are two Ys in the road. Didn't notice one of them apparently.


    This is a little bit of fire road, a short section of 28, take a left on 111 and head down into the canyon then pedal back up. Take the fire road for a short bit then onto 533.


    The climb outta 111 isn't too bad but Damon was on his DH rig with no climbing gears so he was forced to walk some of it.

    From the 533 TH there's about a ╝ mile climb to the top where you can catch your breath before you start bombing. It's actually a fun little techy section that is totally cleanable although I walked the last couple rocks 'cause I just ran out of steam. It's the first on board footage in my video.
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    Looks like fun times!!!

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    It was. 28 was awesome even though I rolled into the cactus...

    Find any new lines on Natty this weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    It was. 28 was awesome even though I rolled into the cactus...

    Find any new lines on Natty this weekend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grave9 View Post
    I found out my Homebrew sucks Need to tweak the mix a little.

    What mixture are you using?
    I'm using the following:
    - 1 part tubless tire slime (car tire slime)
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    Works pretty good until it dries up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcsxj View Post

    What mixture are you using?
    I'm using the following:
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    - 1 part tube tire slime (bicycle slime)
    - 1 part latex
    - 1 part water
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    Works pretty good until it dries up!
    Pretty close to this. I cut up old tubes and add to the mix as well..........D

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    Here's some raw......




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    Quote Originally Posted by DAM View Post
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    Awesome! That was a fun day. Itching to go back. I have been thinking about pretty much everything I learned that day (or think I did anyway) and am anxious to try and apply it.

    I watched the vid from a few months back where to took a header on the jump at the end of 533. Ow.

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    Nice clips. For our other viewers out there I'd suggest this video tutorial as well...

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    Yea, that was a scary day!!! Luckily I walked away unhurt.

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    When's the next trip? Now that I moved up here, it's in my backyard and since the bike parks are closing this month, it would be good to get in a few runs before the winter hits!

    I saw one guy in the Vid on a DH rig... Are the climbs doable on a DH bike or is the HAB just too much to make the day crappy? I'd like to invite my buddies from Vegas up for a nice group ride but we all have 40lb DH bikes w/ dual crown forks.

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    When's the next trip? Now that I moved up here, it's in my backyard and since the bike parks are closing this month, it would be good to get in a few runs before the winter hits!

    I saw one guy in the Vid on a DH rig... Are the climbs doable on a DH bike or is the HAB just too much to make the day crappy? I'd like to invite my buddies from Vegas up for a nice group ride but we all have 40lb DH bikes w/ dual crown forks.

    Not sure when the next trip is. There aren't really any climbs to worry about. Trail 28 is all down hill, 111 has some up hill at the end (I would skip this one, not enough down hill to make it worth it) and 533 has less than 1/4 mile up hill at the start. We just walked it and then jumped on the bikes at the top.

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    You would have to shuttle, but then no real climbing....just that .25 mi at the start of 533. Lemme know if your interested, I can show around. I live in the foothills of Mingus so I guess it is in my backyard as well. Personally I don't think it is worthy of a trip to ride it from Vegas, unless other riding days are included. Where are you living?

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    The cacti should be out of Big O Mike's back by now. Time for some 28th street redemption.
    It's about time for another run up to mingus Mt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcsxj View Post
    533 has less than 1/4 mile up hill at the start. We just walked it and then jumped on the bikes at the top.
    You pansies walked it. I rode that beach... Until I ran out of gas at that last rock step to get up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dancobsen View Post
    The cacti should be out of Big O Mike's back by now. Time for some 28th street redemption. It's about time for another run up to mingus Mt.
    I agree it would be nice to return. I'll be in Vegas this weekend, Tucson next weekend (riding Lemmon), then in Flag for a wedding the following weekend. I'd like to squeeze it in but not sure when...

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    If you're going to drive from Phx and shuttle, you might as well ride Flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunerinaz View Post
    If you're going to drive from Phx and shuttle, you might as well ride Flag.
    What's wrong with Mingus? What don't you like about the trails it has to offer?

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    MIngus was fun and had some nice trails. Probably has some nicer trails we didn't get to experience as well. But, it's hard to beat Flagstaff for quantity and variety as well as proximity to Phoenix. If given the choice I'd take Flag most days. Just my opinion. Except for 28. I owe that muthafukka...

    I'd actually really like to ride those trails that Mark, Tim, and the other guys rode. They look fun, flowy, not as fast as the trails we rode, and appear to have more chunk. I think I'd like them. Still wanna get back and run Private Reserve like it was meant to be... only much slower 'cause I suck. Wanna roll Happy Ending, too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertCrawler View Post
    What's wrong with Mingus? What don't you like about the trails it has to offer?
    Nothin' wrong with Mingus at all. I just think Flag has more to offer with loads more variety and it isn't much further. Only an opinion, nothing meant by it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    MIngus was fun and had some nice trails. Probably has some nicer trails we didn't get to experience as well. But, it's hard to beat Flagstaff for quantity and variety as well as proximity to Phoenix. If given the choice I'd take Flag most days. Just my opinion. Except for 28. I owe that muthafukka...
    Agree. The only quality trails on Mingus are 533 and 29, and even with that they can be in poor condition at times. The East side has it's moments, but not much there stands out at all. The quality of trails in Flagstaff is much higher, with features, options, etc. Mingus is close to me an a fun diversion, and it's the closest thing we have to downhill in the immediate area.
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