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    I LOVE Arizona!!!

    Came out last month from Colofreezeo. Had a GREAT time in your BEAUTIFUL state!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkalkopf
    Came out last month from Colofreezeo. Had a GREAT time in your BEAUTIFUL state!!!
    Glad you had a good time. Come out in July or August and report back

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkalkopf
    Came out last month from Colofreezeo. Had a GREAT time in your BEAUTIFUL state!!!
    Yes Arizona is an excellent if you don't read the news
    Where did you ride? Any photos?

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    I love Arizona even more now that I read all this in the news. This calls for a nice trip there this autumn/winter. I've never been so need to figure out the best riding for a three-day trip. I hear Flagstaff is excellent...need to do some more research.

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    I am currently staying at my moms place in Queen Creek. I lived here for 6 years but had to move back to Indiana for work in 2007. I am hoping to have a vacation home here again. I absolutely LOVE it here as well!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    I love Arizona even more now that I read all this in the news. This calls for a nice trip there this autumn/winter. I've never been so need to figure out the best riding for a three-day trip. I hear Flagstaff is excellent...need to do some more research.
    Flagstaff is killer! I cant wait to get up there this summer and check out some trails!

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    I'm a bit AZ-heat-averse so I need to wait till it gets in the 70s. I prefer 50-60 but I'll take the 70s if it is sunny and exposed. I do need to show AZ some support by spending my money there. I wish more would but I'll do my thing by not camping and by eating and drinking a lot while there.

    Maybe Flagstaff and Sedona or Flagstaff and something else...not sure yet.

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    This Arizona native loves it too. It never gets old here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    I'm a bit AZ-heat-averse so I need to wait till it gets in the 70s. I prefer 50-60 but I'll take the 70s if it is sunny and exposed. I do need to show AZ some support by spending my money there. I wish more would but I'll do my thing by not camping and by eating and drinking a lot while there.

    Maybe Flagstaff and Sedona or Flagstaff and something else...not sure yet.
    Watch out, the cops may just pull you over and ask for some ID!

    Be sure to stop by Presskitt.

    Your 50 degree days are over unless you ride at altitude and get up early.
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    I'll wait till the temps drop later this year. The cops can pull me over if they want, though please...not en route to the trailhead. I gotta start early.


    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Watch out, the cops may just pull you over and ask for some ID!

    Be sure to stop by Presskitt.

    Your 50 degree days are over unless you ride at altitude and get up early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    I love Arizona even more now that I read all this in the news. This calls for a nice trip there this autumn/winter. I've never been so need to figure out the best riding for a three-day trip. I hear Flagstaff is excellent...need to do some more research.
    All lies!
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    Maybe Flagstaff and Sedona or Flagstaff and something else...not sure yet.[/QUOTE]

    If your a heavy breather.....gotta try Little Bear in Flag....one of my favs up there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Watch out, the cops may just pull you over and ask for some ID!

    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    Roll your eyes all you want, but Flyer is, ahem, a little on the tan skinned side.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    just wait a bit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-girl
    Maybe Flagstaff and Sedona or Flagstaff and something else...not sure yet.
    If your a heavy breather.....gotta try Little Bear in Flag....one of my favs up there![/QUOTE]

    lots of 2-3 ft drifts still and ***multiple large blowdowns*** Pretty much felt like I was on a military obstacle course yesterday...
    One of these days I'm gonna pull myself together
    Soon as I finish tearin' myself apart

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    I agree with you. It rocks. I just moved to AZ less than a year ago.

    Today's AZ stoke- rode Sedona, which was of course awesome. Having to drive a few hours isn't exactly the most fun start and end to a day of riding, but I still enjoy driving I-17. Seriously what other interstate traverses almost every climate zone found in the US in 2 hours and stays scenic the entire time?

    At least that's what I was thinking until I spent an hour stuck in construction traffic south of the Carefree Highway. Watch out for that!

    EDIT: Speaking of my ride in Sedona today, I was amazed by a bit of trail magic. I lost my sunglasses at the bottom of h....e and looked for probably about half an hour and couldn't find them. I happened to mention it to some people I passed riding down that way. When I stopped at Bike n Bean later, sure enough my sunglasses had been found and taken there. As hard as I looked for them I was seriously dumbfounded when I asked and they had actually been found. If the people who did that read MTBR, thanks a bunch!
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    "may?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Watch out, the cops may just pull you over and ask for some ID!
    It may rain. It may not. I may win a million dollars. I may not. The fact is, you're condemning an entire police force based on something that hasn't happened.

    That's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    It may rain. It may not. I may win a million dollars. I may not. The fact is, you're condemning an entire police force based on something that hasn't happened.

    That's why.

    jeff
    When did I condemn any cops?

    They certainly ask me for ID every time I get pulled over.

    With that logic, are you condemning the weather and the lottery with your example above?
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    When did I condemn any cops?
    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Watch out, the cops may just pull you over and ask for some ID!
    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Roll your eyes all you want, but Flyer is, ahem, a little on the tan skinned side.
    jeff

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    perhaps it was meant as a slash at the current legislation that is targeting illegal immigrants that are currently living in AZ borders. It is not unreasonable to have to prove that you are who you say you are. If a cop asks for my ID I show it to him. Whats the big deal?

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    I was reminded once again this weekend how diverse this state is and how much I love how quickly terrain can change from minor changes in aspect and elevation.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer
    I was reminded once again this weekend how diverse this state is and how much I love how quickly terrain can change from minor changes in aspect and elevation.
    You must be referring to the 5-mile gasline that we rode into Sedona

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    Great state, super people, that's Arizona.........................Love it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    When did I condemn any cops?

    They certainly ask me for ID every time I get pulled over.

    With that logic, are you condemning the weather and the lottery with your example above?

    Jeff is a few bikes short of a quiver if you know what I mean

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    70%

    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    When did I condemn any cops?
    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Watch out, the cops may just pull you over and ask for some ID!
    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Roll your eyes all you want, but Flyer is, ahem, a little on the tan skinned side.
    70%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    70%.

    jeff

    whats with all this...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    whats with all this...?
    Apparently if 70% of a given population believes something, that's proof that whatever they believe is right, correct, and good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whyaduck
    Apparently if 70% of a given population believes something, that's proof that whatever they believe is right, correct, and good.

    sad but true

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    The thing bout ID is that it is one step closer to living in a police state.

    I am no slippery sloper but things are going down hill. I only hope that the new law will light a fire under politicians to create real reform on creating a just and fair migrant worker policy. It would be one step closer to creating justice for all working people.

    Wait, what was this thread about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azepicriderandrunner
    You must be referring to the 5-mile gasline that we rode into Sedona
    No, he's referring to the EPIC 30 miles of electrical line service 2 track you guys dropped off the top and down into. STOKED on the pics, I am!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggnarl
    The thing bout ID is that it is one step closer to living in a police state.

    I am no slippery sloper but things are going down hill. I only hope that the new law will light a fire under politicians to create real reform on creating a just and fair migrant worker policy. It would be one step closer to creating justice for all working people.

    Wait, what was this thread about?

    You already get asked for an ID when stopped. Its always been illegal to be here without papers, just like I cant go to Argentina without mah passport unless I want to pay the consequence.

    So whats been accomplished and how much money wasted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    You already get asked for an ID when stopped. Its always been illegal to be here without papers, just like I cant go to Argentina without mah passport unless I want to pay the consequence.

    So whats been accomplished and how much money wasted?

    us 65%'rs don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    us 65%'rs don't care.

    thier is no us in we

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    thier is no us in we
    there is no i before e except after c

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    there is no i before e except after c

    us 65%er's don't care

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    us 65%er's don't care
    nor should we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    nor should we.

    32nd st dirt jump shesh 420 pm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    32nd st dirt jump shesh 420 pm?

    tempting. I have to get my totem rebuilt though. the runs down holbert have been using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    tempting. I have to get my totem rebuilt though. the runs down holbert have been using it.

    pu**y

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    10 year resident of NW Arizona, I love it here too! Best time to trailride is right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz

    So whats been accomplished and how much money wasted?
    Having a self-described unemployed pot-head arguing against our SB1070 isnít hurting a single one of the majority (70%) of Arizona residents that agrees with it. It does give a small glimpse of who and what is in that other 30% though doesn't it . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    Having a self-described unemployed pot-head arguing against our SB1070 isnít hurting a single one of the majority (70%) of Arizona residents that agrees with it. It does give a small glimpse of who and what is in that other 30% though doesn't it . .

    you sound stonder than me

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    you sound stonder than me
    he is a hardcore 65%er that has gone over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggnarl

    Wait, what was this thread about?
    Ask Enel. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetisurly
    he is a hardcore 65%er that has gone over the top.

    Gotta love the the redneck logic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    Gotta love the the redneck logic..
    not so much logic as it is red dye intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    Having a self-described unemployed pot-head arguing against our SB1070 isnít hurting a single one of the majority (70%) of Arizona residents that agrees with it. It does give a small glimpse of who and what is in that other 30% though doesn't it . .
    where in the holy hell did you get the information that 70% of people in arizona agree with this bill? Im sure most of flagstaff is against it. Those numbers can't be right.

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    "where?!"

    Quote Originally Posted by CancelOnMe
    where in the holy hell did you get the information that 70% of people in arizona agree with this bill? Im sure most of flagstaff is against it. Those numbers can't be right.
    Rasmussen:
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...al_immigration
    "70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegal Immigration."

    Arizona Republic/12news:
    http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blo...lInsider/79056
    "Of those surveyed, 70 percent said they favored it, 23 percent said they opposed it, and 6 percent said they were unsure."

    Tucson:
    http://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange...upport-sb-1070
    “A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Arizona finds that 71% now favor the immigration law, while 24% oppose it.”

    Flagstaff:
    http://m.azdailysun.com/mobile/artic...cc4c002e0.html
    "By a fairly wide margin, most Americans support the key provisions of Arizona’s new law."

    KTAR news:
    http://ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=1296869
    “Poll finds huge support among Arizona voters for the state's new immigration law. The May 17 survey of 500 likely voters showed 71 percent support the law. That's up from 64 percent in April. “

    KFYI news:
    http://kfyi.com/pages/local_news.htm...rticle=7024898
    “The Rasmussen poll finds 70 percent of likely voters in Arizona back the bill; out-of-state police chiefs oppose it.”

    Channel 15 Phoenix:
    http://stp.abc15.com/mostpopular/sto...RAh3Q.cspx?p=3
    "70 percent of likely voters approve the legislation and 23 percent oppose it."

    This is pretty much just sources just from Arizona. Not from "holy hell," and there's more, but I think you get the idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by CancelOnMe
    Im sure most of flagstaff is against it. Those numbers can't be right.
    Maybe it's hard to find what you don't want to see? . .

    Happy riding up there in Flag. Great city.

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    Ask Enel. .

    70% of people on this board think yer a moron...it sure does say alot about the other 30%.

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    The left never has a problem throwing off a perfectly good topic like this one with their opinion(s). Yet when someone gives a different opinion (*EDIT* Actually in this case: facts), they throw a fit and do nothing but name call. When they got nothing, they always try for smearing and go the route of ridiculous name-calling. Pretty pathetic. Ah well. . Happy riding anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    The left never has a problem throwing off a perfectly good topic like this one with their opinion(s). Yet when someone gives a different opinion, they throw a fit and do nothing but name call. When they got nothing, they always try for smearing and go the route of ridiculous name-calling. Pretty pathetic. Ah well. . Happy riding anyways.

    There is no left or right...just one big sh!tshow where nothing ever really gets acomplished.

    How does this bill do anything positive and progressive for AZ?

    It's allways been illegal to be here in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    70% of people on this board think yer a moron
    A pretty typical "progressive" response from you. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    How does this bill do anything positive..
    Now you expect me to respond to you? No thanks .

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    Quote Originally Posted by az1jeff
    A pretty typical "progressive" response from you. . .



    Now you expect me to respond to you? No thanks .

    jeff

    So now you have the Holy Grail of answers but are now 2 butthurt to drop that knowledge...?

    Can you actually answer a question without a question?

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    AZ1Jeff - ("Global warming hearing postponed because of the snow." )

    The problem with your credability may be in your little signature.

    Although you probably don't buy into modern science, I'll say it anyway.
    The snow is caused by the moisture in the atmosphere due to the melting of the ice caps.
    This is not politics, this is science.

    Maybe you should stick with something related to guns and bibles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JrockFeltaz
    So now you have the Holy Grail of answers but are now 2 butthurt to drop that knowledge...?

    Can you actually answer a question without a question?
    I make every attempt to avoid wasting too much time with presumptuous, rude, vulgar, name-calling, smearing, and juvenile stonerís. A little bit just to put you on display is fun though. Donít you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnniO
    AZ1Jeff - ("Global warming hearing postponed because of the snow." )

    The problem with your credability may be in your little signature.

    Although you probably don't buy into modern science, I'll say it anyway.
    The snow is caused by the moisture in the atmosphere due to the melting of the ice caps.
    This is not politics, this is science.

    Maybe you should stick with something related to guns and bibles.
    And what science is that? The non-unanimous scientific theory that global warming even exists? Or the climate gate scandal within the research that claims it exists hiding and falsify documents? Or the science of strategically placing sensors in Marysville, Calif., sits in a parking lot at a fire station right next to an air conditioner exhaust, a cell phone tower and a barbecue grill., a sensor in Redding, Calif., is housed in a box that also contains a halogen light bulb, which could emit warmth directly onto the gauge, A sensor in Tahoe City, Calif., sits near a paved tennis court and is right next to a "burn barrel" that incinerates garbage, A sensor in Hopkinsville, Ky., is sheltered from the wind by an adjoining house and sits above an asphalt driveway, Dozens of sensors are located at airports and sewage treatment plants, which produce "heat islands" from their sprawling seas of asphalt and heavy emissions?

    Or the science of billions of dollars in the ultimate hypocrite Al Gore’s pockets in his pants which are likely in his new 9 million dollar resource hogging mansion by the ocean that he arrives to by burning thousands of gallons of jet fuel coming back from lecturing us on how we need to cut back and conserve to save the planet. Which by the way, he’s always claimed that ocean will surely rise because of global warming and come to shore. Doesn’t seem so worried about that now does he?

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    "non-unanimous scientific theory" , Do you belong to the flat earth society too ?
    That's some pretty paraniod stuff you have there.

    P.S. All that suff you googled word for word... All of these old talking points have been disproven.

    How about Drill Drill Drill for you new signature. Don't worry about BP though, all the oil is washing up on to Red States, chuckle chuckle.
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    Brown skin NOT invited

    I'm brown skin................. Sounds like I'd be harassed by the PIGs

    There are other states to ride for now

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    What about this oil spill? I'm thinking about getting a new flat screen around 47" any suggestions? How often do you change your oil? Rye bread is the best bread! My Zune is way better than your i-pod. Which framing nailer is best senco or hitatchi? Whats your PCR protocol for the 16s?

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    Not if you dont break the law

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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger
    What about this oil spill?
    It's only washing up on the red states shores so it should be ok. drill drill drill

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnniO
    "non-unanimous scientific theory" , Do you belong to the flat earth society too ?
    That's some pretty paraniod stuff you have there.
    You need to understand that global warming is just a non-unanimous theory. Nearly all scientific fact and laws must be proved or disproved by unanimous experimentation and math from many, many different working areas. Global warming has yet, and will unlikely ever pass this test, especially the unanimous part.

    Pretty sure there's unanimous consensus that the earth is not flat. But like you said, a flat-earth society does exist, as do global warming alarmist's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CancelOnMe
    where in the holy hell did you get the information that 70% of people in arizona agree with this bill? Im sure most of flagstaff is against it. Those numbers can't be right.

    actually... it is very correct...
    i like these odds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaz
    Not if you don't break the law
    That's likely going to be a problem with this crowd.

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    Of the people that supported the law, 71 percent believe that Legal Latino Americans would be harassed because of it and they were fine with this...

    There was similar support for Japanese internment during WWII. Also you will find similar support early on when Hitler was starting to discriminate against the Jews.

    Civil rights was also quite unpopular at one time. Rand Paul seems to have a lot of support these days still being against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnniO
    Also you will find similar support early on when Hitler was starting to discriminate against the Jews.
    which brings to light the pathetic irony of the right. damn that obama and his cronies leading us into a socialist state due to {insert favorite limbah taking point here} but its damn skippy if were talking brown skins and cops.

    jeff- do you not see the problem in allowing thousands of law enforcement goons (g.e.d. is all i need, right?... im in!) to enforce this law????? its always been illegal to be here undocumented. previously you had to commit a crime but now it will be up to suspicion on said goons part. sounds like a great idea!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy_ending
    which brings to light the pathetic irony of the right. damn that obama and his cronies leading us into a socialist state due to {insert favorite limbah taking point here} but its damn skippy if were talking brown skins and cops.
    Huh? What do you know about that bill other than what daily kos has told you? It specifically forbids bringing that issue up unless ur already pulled aside for doing something illegal in the first place. And one of the first questions an officer has always asked is "Can I see some ID?" anyway, so whats the problem? Besides how hard is it to get a fake drivers license to begin with? Oooooh its the dark night of Nazism all over again ooooohh

    its always been illegal to be here undocumented.
    Well the difference is now they're merely attempting to do something about it. Nice job shitt1ing on cops btw, real mature.
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    Below is the part of the bill that has everyone up in arms.Here it is so you can read it yourself. I highly doubt racial profiling will increase (or decrease for that matter) simply because of this bill. If it happens now it will continue. If it doesn't, it won't start because of this bill.

    It was illegal before on the federal level, and beginning in July it will be illegal at the state level.



    B. FOR ANY LAWFUL STOP, DETENTION OR ARREST MADE BY A LAW
    ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A LAW
    ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN
    OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY
    OTHER LAW OR ORDINANCE OF A COUNTY, CITY OR TOWN OR THIS STATE WHERE
    REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN AND IS
    UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE
    MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON,
    EXCEPT IF THE DETERMINATION MAY HINDER OR OBSTRUCT AN INVESTIGATION. ANY
    PERSON WHO IS ARRESTED SHALL HAVE THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS
    DETERMINED BEFORE THE PERSON IS RELEASED. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS
    SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES
    CODE SECTION 1373(c). A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE
    OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY
    NOT CONSIDER RACE, COLOR OR NATIONAL ORIGIN IN IMPLEMENTING THE
    REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBSECTION EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY THE
    UNITED STATES OR ARIZONA CONSTITUTION. A PERSON IS PRESUMED TO NOT BE AN
    ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IF THE PERSON
    PROVIDES TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR AGENCY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
    1. A VALID ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSE.
    2. A VALID ARIZONA NONOPERATING IDENTIFICATION LICENSE.
    3. A VALID TRIBAL ENROLLMENT CARD OR OTHER FORM OF TRIBAL
    IDENTIFICATION.
    4. IF THE ENTITY REQUIRES PROOF OF LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED
    STATES BEFORE ISSUANCE, ANY VALID UNITED STATES FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL
    GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.

    Link to entire bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbowilly
    Below is the part of the bill that has everyone up in arms.Here it is so you can read it yourself. I highly doubt racial profiling will increase (or decrease for that matter) simply because of this bill. If it happens now it will continue. If it doesn't, it won't start because of this bill.

    It was illegal before on the federal level, and beginning in July it will be illegal at the state level.



    B. FOR ANY LAWFUL STOP, DETENTION OR ARREST MADE BY A LAW
    ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A LAW
    ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN
    OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY
    OTHER LAW OR ORDINANCE OF A COUNTY, CITY OR TOWN OR THIS STATE WHERE
    REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN AND IS
    UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE
    MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON,
    EXCEPT IF THE DETERMINATION MAY HINDER OR OBSTRUCT AN INVESTIGATION. ANY
    PERSON WHO IS ARRESTED SHALL HAVE THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS
    DETERMINED BEFORE THE PERSON IS RELEASED. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS
    SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES
    CODE SECTION 1373(c). A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE
    OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY
    NOT CONSIDER RACE, COLOR OR NATIONAL ORIGIN IN IMPLEMENTING THE
    REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBSECTION EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY THE
    UNITED STATES OR ARIZONA CONSTITUTION. A PERSON IS PRESUMED TO NOT BE AN
    ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IF THE PERSON
    PROVIDES TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR AGENCY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
    1. A VALID ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSE.
    2. A VALID ARIZONA NONOPERATING IDENTIFICATION LICENSE.
    3. A VALID TRIBAL ENROLLMENT CARD OR OTHER FORM OF TRIBAL
    IDENTIFICATION.
    4. IF THE ENTITY REQUIRES PROOF OF LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED
    STATES BEFORE ISSUANCE, ANY VALID UNITED STATES FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL
    GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.

    Link to entire bill
    I'm confused: does this mean you do or don't love AZ?

    Pretty sure that if you're against the law, nobody is going to convince you otherwise. And vice versa.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    Okay, yeah, we're not having political conversations here.
    Don't be that guy! Read the forum guidelines.

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