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    Go John grooming

    Somebody has groomed a rather fun section of the Go John Trail headed CCW its right after the first saddle and it was a tight chute that was rather difficult now it is a totally groomed for the benefit of two large water tubes.

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    ....Gay...gay

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    They slowly started doing that crap a couple of years ago. They did the same thing to the Overton trail 4 or 5 years ago on all the switchbacks on the back side of the park.

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    water tubes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhxChem
    water tubes?
    My guess is, those giant black PVC pipes some bury into the trail to act as drainage/water bars.
    Nobody gives a s#$t you singlespeed.

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    I know the spot, and my guess is that since Go John is a shared use trail the equestrains were having difficulty in getting through the steep chute, and parks people reconstructed that section of trail to make it easier for the horses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcore Ken
    Somebody has groomed a rather fun section of the Go John Trail headed CCW its right after the first saddle and it was a tight chute that was rather difficult now it is a totally groomed for the benefit of two large water tubes.

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    If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was a pedal scraper for sure.

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    I'm just trying to figure out if the pipes are needed to move water under the trail (like on the dirt road at Spur Cross) or if they're using them as water bars...

    Guess I'll have to hit the trail to find out.

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    I know the exact spot your talking about. The last time I was there we saw the mini bobcat parked on the side. Looked as tho they just finished up. Heck don't horses jump? If I jump that section then why can't the horses do it too....... I kid, I kid,.....kind of.
    .Hoog just texted me and said it's "Surface area to G2 tangential force vector ratio optimization. "

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    What's the best route for Go John?

    I might actually get a chance to ride Cave Creek Regional Park over the holidays. Anybody got a good suggestion of what trails / route I should take? I could probably drive into the park, or I could enter by Surrey Road, but I'm not sure if there is a place to park there?

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    Go john counterclockwise but Overton down on the way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike_Muchacho
    I might actually get a chance to ride Cave Creek Regional Park over the holidays. Anybody got a good suggestion of what trails / route I should take? I could probably drive into the park, or I could enter by Surrey Road, but I'm not sure if there is a place to park there?
    You could just park at the top of Surrey, ride the whole park and come back. Your vehicle should be ok, other people do it from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cahava rider
    You could just park at the top of Surrey, ride the whole park and come back. Your vehicle should be ok, other people do it from time to time.
    Did that ride today. Got 13.5ish miles....Surrey to Slate to Go John (CCW) to Overton and back to Surrey.

    While passing a hiker on one of saddles on Go John, a lady remarked how she didn't know how MTBrs ride such rocky trails. I told her (with my chest puffed up) that although I had to walk my bike up the last 100ft., on the other side, it'll be much easier going downhill...I'll just be able to roll over the rocks. Luckily she didn't stick around to watch.....not 10 seconds later I almost went OTFB!! Decided to drop my seat a mm or so (probably more like 25.4mm). Yeah, that'll make me a better rider.

    I even spied the offending "water tube."

    More a like a friggin' pipe. FWIW, it seems that in this area, any grooming was just to install the pipe in the little wash. There seems to be plenty of ungroomed sections out there.

    Then again, this was my first time on Go John.....
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    Save your 6 bucks for parking and ride the sidewalk in front of your house, thats what the trail resembles any more!

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    That's a culvert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskersOfDeath
    That's a culvert.
    Yes, but I only had the laser-like precision of "water tubes" to go on.......

    Maybe the spot he's talking about is between the parking area and the intersection with Overton headed in the CW direction? Skipped that part for Overton.


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    Rode it tonight. Lame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunion
    Rode it tonight. Lame
    The system as a whole or just the changes?

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    Make your own new challenge in the absence of what is now lost. Try to wheelie through this section, or pedal with one leg for 30 seconds. You won;t realize this section has been sanitized, and all hikers will think you are a crazy mofo......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajmelin
    The system as a whole or just the changes?
    Trail is sweet. Where they messed with it is lame.

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    one less thing to work up to... but I like the wheelie idea

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    They must have done that on Monday, as I hiked the whole loop Sunday afternoon (CCW) and that wasn't there...hmmm

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    Rode this today and sorry the chute is gone, but there's plenty of other burly terrain on the back side that hasn't changed or been groomed since day one. Still lots of fun and challenging stuff to be had. Now go ride.

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