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    Death Valley 230 Miler, March 1 - 3, 2014

    The 2014 Death Valley 230 Miler is on!
    When: Saturday, March 1 through Monday, March 3, 2014.
    Starting Point/Ending Point: Beatty, NV (ghost town of Rhyolite, NV), elev. 3300 feet


    Lodging/Camping.
    If you wish to grab a motel room for the night before and or after, there are several options in Beatty, NV. The Exchange Club Motel is probably the best value (the property served as the stock exchange at the turn of the century in these hinterlands of the Nevada goldfields; after the exchange shut down in the 1920's, it became a casino and cafe until these closed 8 years ago; now Lou's Hardware occupies the old stock exchange). Clean, inexpensive, on-site laundry, pet-friendly, no problem with bikes in the rooms. For those driving, the Exchange Club will allow us to park cars there for the duration of the ride. There are also a few restaurant and bar options in Beatty.

    Rhyolite has come under the jurisdiction of BLM, and you can no longer camp within the ghost town of Rhyolite. However, it's wide open around Rhyolite. Wide open.

    PLEASE NOTE: There is NO grocery store in Beatty.
    Stock up on provisions before leaving home! We will be passing through Furnace Creek in Death Valley, and there is a small grocery store there, but be prepared to pay; they're the only gig within a hundred miles.

    There is NO singletrack on this route.
    It is a combination of dirt roads (145.5 miles) and pavement (84.5 miles). But don't let this fool you. Titus Canyon, Echo Canyon and Tarantula Canyon are killer climbs on dirt, and the paved climb over Jubilee Pass and on up to Salisbury Pass is an ass-kicker. I don't think there is anything like the 5400-foot uninterrupted descent on dirt road from Red Pass to the floor of Death Valley. Check your brakes. The scenery is unlike anything else in North America, continually being edited re-shaped by the ongoing battle between the North American and Pacific tectonic plates. The mile+ vertical descents, the unrelenting thousand+ foot climbs to start each day, perhaps snow over 5000 feet, definitely balmy below sea level, it's a beautifully surreal place, and you won't be disappointed! (I cut off 20 miles based on the pre-ride and recon due to areas now closed due to active mining, and a few paved sections we can skip).

    Weather. Camp One will be at sea level, with nighttime temps in the mid 40s. Camp Two will be at 4000 feet above sea level, and temps will likely be in the teens to 20s. Pack accordingly.

    Water. We will be passing through Furnace Creek on Day One and can top off our water there, so I only cached 4 gallons at Camp One. Once we're in the Funerals, we're on our own. I cached 10 gallons at Camp Two. We'll need to reassess our water needs as we get a headcount closer to the date, and carry additional with us if need be, no big deal.

    From Phoenix, it's a 6-hour drive to Beatty, NV. Can't vouch for the travel-time from San Diego, but I would imagine you should add an hour.

    Post up if you're interested in doing this ride. I'd like to get a headcount so I can get our entry fees to DVNP squared away. If you have any questions or comments, please post them here or PM me.

    Here is the GPX. Right-click to save, then open with your GPX mapping program (I highly recommend TopoFusion!).

    I'm counting the days. It's going to be epic.
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    Count me IN Phil, already cleared the dates on the calendar.
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    crap, I've gotta get on a plane Mar 2nd so llooks like I'm gonna miss this adventure. Looking forward to reading about it!

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    +1, this is going to be a great time, I cannot wait. Can you give an estimate of mileage per day, longest stretches without water, and how much water we should be carrying for each day? I'm guessing you're carrying 3 days worth of food, and getting snacks at stovepipe, or is stovepipe the resupply point half way through the trip?

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    This looks pretty awesome. Nancy and I are a definite probably.

    So, gearing for SS looks to be challenging. There appears to be a good amount of flat that we'll be spinning on, but then some hefty climbs. So, gear somewhere in between? Can you compare the climbs to anything local - grade wise?

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    Freeskier and isignay, glad you're excited, I am STOKED! dtownmtb, I think that a lot of the route would be SS-able, but there are two stretches of pretty flat earth--from Titus Canyon Road where it dumps out onto pavement down to Camp One is about 39 miles of sea level to below sea level pavement, and about 33 miles of flat dirt from Badwater Road to Camp One. The ride across Greenwater Valley is a steady climb on dirt, followed by a gradual descent to Dantes View Road and pavement, and a screaming downhill on pavement to the Echo Canyon turnoff. I've attempted to summarize the climbs in the following table (I clearly don't know how to insert a table in mtbr, but I CAN open a Rampant Imperial India Pale Ale with my SPD pedals):

    Segment
    Beatty to Red Pass surface-dirt 11.6 miles 13% grade 2349 feet climb
    Red Pass to Furnace Creek Road surface-dirt 13.0 miles -11% grade -5423 feet descent
    Split Cone to Salisbury Pass surface-pavement 19.63 miles 7% 3832 feet climb
    Furnace Creek Road to Inyo Mine surface-dirt 13.17 miles 19% 5899 feet climb
    Inyo Mine to Tarantula Canyon surface-dirt 29.49 miles -9% 1814 feet climb
    Tarantula Canyon to Bare Mountain
    summit to Beatty, NV surface-dirt 9.3 miles 11% 1007 feet climb

    The missing mileage is either flat or paved downhill.

    Grade-wise, South Mountain road to the summit would be a good comparison for pavement, but add a few miles and a few more thousand feet; dirt is hard to say. The climb up Mt. Ord? My ss is set up as 34-18. I know I hit my spin max at 11 mph, so I would guess a 34-20 or greater would be better on the flats, but you might be wishing for the 18 going up Echo Canyon. But don't worry, I'll have whiskey waiting for you at Camp One.

    The two things I want to stress? 1) Water will be the critical issue. I plan to carry 300 oz with me on Day Two. Day One is no big deal, we'll pass through Furnace Creek. Day Two also not so much a big deal as we'll be passing within about 5 miles of Furnace Creek again. Camp Two is near the top of the climb up and over the Funerals, and I have 10 gallons cached there. Day Three starts with a short climb (short being relative on Day Three...) to our highest point we'll hit in the Funerals, and the farming town of Amargosa is about 5 miles away from the bottom of the subsequent downhill where we pop out of the range. I would guess that on a ride like this, carrying 200 oz is pretty standard. 2) Weather can be a crazy train in Death Valley in February-March. Plan for temps ranging from upper 60s to the mid teens.

    Please keep the questions coming.

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    Hope

    When we pass within 5 miles of furnace creek and Amargosa, is the plan to stop in town to resupply, or is that more of an optional scenario for those of us who need something?

    Are you carrying food for all 3 days, or planning on stopping in those towns?

    If anyone is in the San Diego area and wants to carpool let me know. I have an SUV and would be happy to take 1 more person with me, it'd make the 8 hour drive easier and help with gas. It's not a massive SUV so I don't think I could fit more than 1 person comfortably with the bikes and gear in the car.

    Or if anyone in San Diego wants to do this trip let me know and I can help with driving and gas costs as well, whatever works.

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    I was about to say I'm in for his ride only to realize I'm going to be skiing in Telluride that weekend. DOH! Have fun you guys!
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    Since this is all on roads, would it be cool or a drag to have a beer/water sagwagon (me and my 4Runner) meet up at the overnight locations? I would love to plan a star shooting trip to Death Valley and could coordinate to meet you all. Might even pack a bike and do some spinning since one of my new year's resolutions is to ride my bikes more in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isignay View Post
    When we pass within 5 miles of furnace creek and Amargosa, is the plan to stop in town to resupply, or is that more of an optional scenario for those of us who need something?

    Are you carrying food for all 3 days, or planning on stopping in those towns?

    If anyone is in the San Diego area and wants to carpool let me know. I have an SUV and would be happy to take 1 more person with me, it'd make the 8 hour drive easier and help with gas. It's not a massive SUV so I don't think I could fit more than 1 person comfortably with the bikes and gear in the car.

    Or if anyone in San Diego wants to do this trip let me know and I can help with driving and gas costs as well, whatever works.

    isignay--We will be passing through Furnace Creek on Day One, and we'll be within a couple miles again on Day Two. It's a good re-supply stop if needed. I would even recommend everybody topping off their water on Day Two as we pass FC. We will be passing within a few miles of Amargosa, and likewise would be a good spot to stop if needed the morning of Day Three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl View Post
    Since this is all on roads, would it be cool or a drag to have a beer/water sagwagon (me and my 4Runner) meet up at the overnight locations? I would love to plan a star shooting trip to Death Valley and could coordinate to meet you all. Might even pack a bike and do some spinning since one of my new year's resolutions is to ride my bikes more in 2014.
    Umm...DurtGurl...I'm confused......beer...mountain bikes...if you're suggesting that beer might be appreciated on this ride...well, who would I be to stand in your way?

    I certainly have no problem with your suggestion! I've seen your work, I know what the nighttime skies are like out there, and I think you'd have a blast and compose some awesome shots. I'm still gonna pack all my stuff with me, because if you MUST insist on dragging beer, then I want to at least feel like I earned one.

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    +1 for DurtGurl!! See you there KK. This isn't a race, and considering the area perhaps we can coordinate a few extras that we normally wouldn't carry.
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    I've gotten a few inquiries about carpooling from riders in Phoenix and SoCal. I have room for one person and gear, and I can haul up to 4 bikes. I plan to leave my house in the East Valley at 4 a.m. Friday, Feb 28 and get to Beatty by noon. If anyone else is interested in carpooling, post up!

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    Uh, yeah Phil. I'll take that carpool seat!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeskier46 View Post
    Uh, yeah Phil. I'll take that carpool seat!!
    All right John, you got yourself a deal! I just talked it over with Mike and I am taking the Titan, so room for one more! Takers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    Umm...DurtGurl...I'm confused......beer...mountain bikes...if you're suggesting that beer might be appreciated on this ride...well, who would I be to stand in your way?

    I certainly have no problem with your suggestion! I've seen your work, I know what the nighttime skies are like out there, and I think you'd have a blast and compose some awesome shots. I'm still gonna pack all my stuff with me, because if you MUST insist on dragging beer, then I want to at least feel like I earned one.
    Keep me in the loop and I hope to make it happen! It'll be a new moon around then so the skies will be super dark.

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    Due to Nancy's teaching schedule we are going to have to bail on this.

    I'm sure John will take a picture or two to let us know what was missed.

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    About half a year early for me, then again, I don't think this is a ride you want to do in the summer.
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    No changes to route, ignore this profile.

    Ignore the following profile......we'll stick to Plan A.

    Ride will remain 230 miles, three days, two nights, original route (GPX here, right-click to save). Got a little ahead of myself there for a minute.
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    Are we adding 50 miles to the route? We're there any takers? Possible B group post ride who wants to stick around an extra day?

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    Death Valley 230 Miler, March 1 - 3, 2014

    I initially considered adding 50, but a wise friend advised me to stick with the original plan. It will still be 230 miles true to the original route. Not sure if there will be anybody staying for another day or two. I can't, will have to get back to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isignay View Post
    Are we adding 50 miles to the route? We're there any takers? Possible B group post ride who wants to stick around an extra day?
    No, we will stick with the original plan and route, 230 miles, three days, two nights. Racetrack Playa will wait til next year.

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    Head count as of today is 9! (I'm counting you, KK and Bevinator in this total). I'll be posting up a "paper" map shortly, along with a turn-by-turn guide for those not using GPS. I am really excited by the turnout, it's going to be a great adventure. I'll start beating the water drum now...please be prepared to carry two FULL 100-oz water bladders at all times. This is going to be awesome.

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    Phil, what is the permit situation like? You mention you are organizing them, so is it a group permit or individual ones? I am interested in doing this ride but due to work can't commit 100% yet. I'll gladly pay my share of the permit cost regardless, just wanting to know details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    Head count as of today is 9! (I'm counting you, KK and Bevinator in this total). I'll be posting up a "paper" map shortly, along with a turn-by-turn guide for those not using GPS. I am really excited by the turnout, it's going to be a great adventure. I'll start beating the water drum now...please be prepared to carry two FULL 100-oz water bladders at all times. This is going to be awesome.
    FUN!!! I just got my Death Valley map and Death Valley photo guide book yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    Phil, what is the permit situation like? You mention you are organizing them, so is it a group permit or individual ones? I am interested in doing this ride but due to work can't commit 100% yet. I'll gladly pay my share of the permit cost regardless, just wanting to know details.
    evdog, entry permit is $10 per rider. I'd like to get our permits squared away on Friday, February 28, 2014. So long as we abide by the 1/4 mile off established roads for camping, we require no special permit. Your entry fee is $10 and a flask of whiskey of your choice. And 200 oz of water at all times.

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    Sounds good. Just let me know if you need any info from me for the permit and how to get you the cash. Whiskey is only going to get me in trouble, maybe some tequila instead?

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    Spirits of your choice, evdog. All I can say about tequila is that...the jail system in Puerto Penasco is...interesting. And they let you out in time for breakfast. At least that was the case in the early 90s. I have nothing more to say.

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    Wondering about by best options with the bikes I have. I don't want to spend more than a hundred bucks in upgrades, and I can probably borrow some gear. I don't mind MacGuygering something together as long as it works. This is what I have to work with. Any recommendations appreciated:
    a) My "good" bike - a newish Trek Marlin 29 SS with various upgrades, 100mm REBA up front (basically a Trek/GF Rig). No panier mounts. No gears. Tubless. Can accept a deraileur hanger on dropout sliders, but I don't have one yet. I do have an old x9 shifter and deraileur around someplace, no cassette.
    b) a 10 year old-ish diamond back hard tail 3x9 v-brake 100 mm front susp. Nothing special, but has gears and a shock. Worth every penny I paid (I trash picked it). Tubes.
    c) a 20+ year steel frame, hard fork Rock Hopper. Has panier mounts. Original canti brakes and bio-pace cranks. In the process of converting to commuter klunker. Tubes.

    I have a rear panier rack and rack-top bag(looks like a shoe box) and that's it. I do not have a frame triangle bage or seat post bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB_Cortez View Post
    Wondering about by best options with the bikes I have. I don't want to spend more than a hundred bucks in upgrades, and I can probably borrow some gear. I don't mind MacGuygering something together as long as it works. This is what I have to work with. Any recommendations appreciated:
    a) My "good" bike - a newish Trek Marlin 29 SS with various upgrades, 100mm REBA up front (basically a Trek/GF Rig). No panier mounts. No gears. Tubless. Can accept a deraileur hanger on dropout sliders, but I don't have one yet. I do have an old x9 shifter and deraileur around someplace, no cassette.
    b) a 10 year old-ish diamond back hard tail 3x9 v-brake 100 mm front susp. Nothing special, but has gears and a shock. Worth every penny I paid (I trash picked it). Tubes.
    c) a 20+ year steel frame, hard fork Rock Hopper. Has panier mounts. Original canti brakes and bio-pace cranks. In the process of converting to commuter klunker. Tubes.

    I have a rear panier rack and rack-top bag(looks like a shoe box) and that's it. I do not have a frame triangle bage or seat post bag.
    Hi JB, glad you're joining us! Here's my two cents.

    Option 1. I really thought about doing this on my single speed, but all three days have some long stretches of pretty flat terrain. I quickly ditched the idea. And when I pre-rode some of it a few weeks back, I appreciated having the gears. I guess it depends on what ratio your SS is set up as. Mine's a 34-18, and beyond 11 mph I just bounce on the seat; not sure if a 34-20 or even 22 for the monsters among us (and they ARE out there...you know who you are) would be much better on the flats.

    Option 2. The DB is definitely a possibility, but a few things to consider there as well. You say it's 10-years oldish...are the rims the same age? Eventually the brake shoes will wear through the rim, and given the multi-miles, multi-thousands of feet descents, I'd really want to make sure I had enough rim to chew into. Also, when was the last time you checked the spoke tension on this rig? I'd definitely either give this bike a complete overhaul before a ride like this, or let my LBS have at it.

    Option 3, the Rockhopper. Was my first true mountain bike, and remains my all-time favorite hardtail. See earlier comment about brakes and spokes.

    Final Analysis: I would go with your Trek Marlin, trick it up with the 9-speed transmission. You should be able to get a pretty good deal on cassette. You shouldn't need paniers for this trip. Strap your sleeping pad and bag to your handlebars. Check out Revelate for a great seat bag, and start checking Craigslist for one. I bought mine used, and love it. Same with a frame bag. Keep an eye out for a used one. There definitely are riders out there who have some spare equipment who would gladly share. If I did, I would, but pretty new to the bike-packing scene myself so no spare stuff yet. If anyone can hook you up, would you object to them sending you a PM?

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    JB, I have an extra seat bag you'd be able to borrow. I'll be sure to bring it along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    Ignore the following profile......we'll stick to Plan A.

    Ride will remain 230 miles, three days, two nights, original route (GPX here, right-click to save). Got a little ahead of myself there for a minute.
    I am a GPS retard. AM trying to download your gpx file on my work PC, but the PC will only save it with an xml extention and this file will not open up in Googlemaps. Can I convince someone to post an old fashion map of the route and planned camping locations?? I just secured vacation and am looking forward to a Death Valley adventure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl View Post
    I am a GPS retard. AM trying to download your gpx file on my work PC, but the PC will only save it with an xml extention and this file will not open up in Googlemaps. Can I convince someone to post an old fashion map of the route and planned camping locations?? I just secured vacation and am looking forward to a Death Valley adventure!
    gpx files are XML. Just right click on the file. Rename. Change the extension on the file from .xml to .gpx. Presto it is now a gps file and will be recognized as such by whatever program you use to read them (like Topofusion).

    Wish I was going on this trip. Looks like it is going to be great.

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    Tried that, downloaded demo Topofusions, still not working, still a dufuss. Someone make me a map???

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    I can make a map when I get home tonite. You are mainly looking for roads and campsites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    I can make a map when I get home tonite. You are mainly looking for roads and campsites?
    Yup, roads with campsites. Would also like to see planned track that you bikers are taking. Thanks!!

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    I'll also print out a bunch, showing the route, campsites, profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtGurl View Post
    Tried that, downloaded demo Topofusions, still not working, still a dufuss. Someone make me a map???
    If someone doesnt get to it beforehand... Ill try to make one tonight when I get home from work... I agree with you on your statement of prefering a good paper map...

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    Death Valley 230 Miler, March 1 - 3, 2014

    Sent you my phone number on the FB PM, call me tonight after 7 if you can and I'll talk you through the route. Stoked you got vacation to go!

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    here is topofusion map. I have the demo version, so it attaches all kind of crappy "Demo" images on the map

    did the best I can.

    I tried to upload gpx into garmin connect but it won't upload. I think because it doesnt have time information.. Don't know.

    would like to have a gpx that can be uploaded to garmin connect
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    much much better... thanks

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    This is a jpeg of the route, highlighted in blue, broken up into North and South.

    NORTH
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    SOUTH
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    This is a jpeg of the route, highlighted in blue, broken up into North and South.
    That's it! Thanks!!!! Will get more details on exact camp spots from you later. This lets me do some planning in the mean time for Death Valley by 4Runners...

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    Phil, please count me in too... Just cleared the dates with the fam and I have been super stoked since the first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagrider3 View Post
    Phil, please count me in too... Just cleared the dates with the fam and I have been super stoked since the first post.
    Great flagrider3! Keep checking back for updates. Also let us know if you're having any issues downloading the gpx file.

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    Just made reservations at the Exchange Club in Beatty, NV for Friday night, Feb 28, and Monday night, March 3. I got a room with two double beds, first floor. If someone want to split the 62 bucks a night with me, that'd be great. If not no worries. If you are planning to get a room in Beatty for before, after, or both, I highly recommend the Exchange Club. I let them know they might be getting a few more calls.

    119 W Main St, Beatty, NV 89003
    (775) 553-2333

    I explained our purpose, and we got the okay to park cars there through the weekend during the ride. They're no frills, but honest.

    It's too bad their former casino is now a hardware store. I don't always play blackjack, but when I did, it was at the Exchange Club, and one night I walked from the table with 900 bucks...started with 20. Best hands of cards and dirty vodka martinis ever. I only had a vague idea of what I was doing, wasn't a gambler then, not one now. Just a wild hare. That 900 bought my first "real" mountain bike when I got back to Denver when the field season was over.

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    We the people ... DV230 Logistics Meet and Greet

    DV230 Logistics Meet and Greet

    When:
    Option 1 Ė Saturday, FEB 01, 6 PM
    Option 2 Ė Sunday, FEB 02, 12PM (noon)
    Option 3 Ė Saturday, FEB 08, 12PM (noon)

    Where:
    Boulders on Broadway
    530 W Broadway Road
    Tempe, AZ 85282 (map)

    Iíd like for as many of us as possible to get together and talk logistics about the DV230. Iíll have maps, gpx info, route descriptions, etc. Weíll pick Johnís brain about how to pack smartly, and discuss options for acquiring and/or borrowing appropriate gear.

    Please bring your questions, your thirst for adventure, and your GPS (if you have one, highly recommend you get one if you already donít have one).

    Please select one of the above dates and times, and majority will rule on this one. Iíll post up minutes of the meeting afterwards for those of you unable to attend. I am so stoked by the interest and excitement around this event. Itís gonna be a trip!

    See you thereó

    GilaMonster (a.k.a. Phil)

    PSóI will be cross-posting this on the Facebook BIKES page (join the page if you havenít already!), so expect message fatigue.

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    Meeting prior to the trip is a great idea Phil. Unfortunately I won't be able to make it out from SD for that. I'm not on facebook either so will have to rely on this thread or email to keep in touch. I should be all good to go however - have all the gear and maps I should need.

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    Death Valley 230 Miler, March 1 - 3, 2014

    No worries evdog, I'll post a summary. And I'll keep posting to this thread.

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    Two votes (mine and friend Doug's) for this Saturday at 6!

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    Death Valley 230 Miler, March 1 - 3, 2014

    Tomorrow at 6, Boulders on Broadeay, see you there!

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    DV230 Logistics Meeting #1

    Thanks all who made it to Meeting #1. It was a chance to grab a few beers, make some new introductions, and talk details. We passed around paper copies of the map (copies made from the National Geographic Trails Illustrated Death Valley National Park Map, #221). If you get a chance, drop in to your local REI or LBS and grab a copy. I'll bring additional paper copies along on the trip just in case.

    Some highlights of Meeting #1:
    • There will be two separate parties driving the route as we're riding, so there is the option of having Kathleen & Doug and Michelle ferry water (and it was emphatically decided, beer) for those of us wishing to not be fully self-supportive. They will probably go off on their own explorations during the day but we will all be regrouping nightly at Camps 1 and 2.
    • BRING LIGHTS. Though we will be in the pedals at sunrise, it is likely that darkness might beat some of us to camp.
    • Day One will start out with about 15 miles of climbing followed by about 15 miles of descent. The remaining 70 miles of Day One will bounce between sea level and -200 feet, no serious climbs, but it may turn in to a grind towards the end. It might suck on a singlespeed.
    • Day Two is the big day. Big climb, big descent, big climb, Camp 2. The first climb is about 3,300 feet along 20 miles of pavement. Descent from Greenwater Valley to Echo Canyon Road is paved and fast. Second big climb to finish the day is about 3,000 feet on about 10 miles of gravel road to Camp Two.
    • Day Three will be all gravel and dirt roads, all day, back to Beatty, NV. We'll climb the final 1,700 feet to our highest point in the Funerals, ~4,800 feet, and descend 2,200 feet to cross the Amargosa Valley. After crossing US-95, we'll head north along the eastern face of Bare Mountain, and cut through the range via Tarantula Canyon. Steep. 1,000 feet of climbing over 2.5 miles. I'll be pushing my bike.
    • We'll drop from our high point (5,000 feet) on Bare Mountain back down to Beatty via Fluorspar Canyon.
    • Beers at the Sourdough Saloon.


    A reminder that if you want to get a room for before and or after the ride, book it soon.

    We will have one more meeting on Tuesday, February 18, 6PM at Boulders on Broadway (where else?).

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    Well, if there isn't a 2-3,000 ft hike a bike at the end of each day like Coconino I think I'll be ok.

    It all sounds good to me. I'm going to try to be self supported but no doubt beers will be tempting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    Well, if there isn't a 2-3,000 ft hike a bike at the end of each day like Coconino I think I'll be ok.

    It all sounds good to me. I'm going to try to be self supported but no doubt beers will be tempting!
    No Coconino, but a gravel road up through the Funerals will certainly be a challenge at the end of the day. Like you, I plan to be fully self-supported...although if Kathleen or Michelle happened to be ferrying a few Rampage Ales for me, I'd not be super opposed to that.

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    A couple people have approached me about rooms in Beatty, NV for the Friday night before the Saturday sun-up roll-out, and for the Monday night roll-back-in to Beatty. I snagged a room at the Exchange Club, a few of us are booked there now. If anyone else wants to split a room, post up, there may be a few people who'll split the tab with you.

    Any other questions, let's post 'em! So looking forward to meeting up with you all Friday night, February 28!

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    For you drivers of the DV230 (and riders as well) this is what we'll be looking at on the morning of March 3rd crossing the Funerals! I think it will probably be best for our 4Runner angels to turn back down through Echo Canyon, Furnace Creek, back through Beatty and to the farming town of Amargosa. We can meet at the Amargosa Opera House for lunch. I'd try my Tacoma over this stuff, but I would definitely acquire some battle scars! Turn the volume down and crank up the Nine Inch Nails. Fun video.

    Echo Canyon to Lee's Camp/Amargosa

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    Awesome Phil! Looks like we have some hike a bike in our future. Of course every good ride has to have some! I was not expecting any of that, so it looks like we will be going a lot more remote than I was expecting. Seems I need to check out some more of these DV 4x4 vids

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    Death Valley 230 Miler, March 1 - 3, 2014

    }:-) it's got to have a little bit of gnarl, Evan!

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    This trip is going to be a disappointment if John and I don't finish in the dark both nights

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    Haha don't you worry about that, if there's any night-finishing to be done, I'm it!

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    EIGHTEEN DAYS! Stoke the stoke! Any last-minute questions? We'll probably start getting into Beatty around noon on Friday the 28th. Look forward to seeing everybody there and meeting some new folks!

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    16 days!!!

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    Looks like things are going to heat up...before they cool back down.

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    STOKE! 14 days!! Book your rooms! Exchange Club, Beatty, NV. They've committed to our parking there for the event. I can't wait to start with you all and catching up at the end on March 3rd at the Sourdough for the adventure download. I look forward to regrouping with old friends and meeting new friends on Friday, Feb 28 in Beatty. My phone is 480-734-5856, feel free to give me a call or text if you have any questions. It's gonna be epic.

    Also, we had discussed a second meeting for this coming Tuesday, if anyone thinks it would be of benefit, let me know. Otherwise, I just might be riding my bike Tuesday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    We will be passing through Furnace Creek on Day One, and we'll be within a couple miles again on Day Two. It's a good re-supply stop if needed. I would even recommend everybody topping off their water on Day Two as we pass FC. We will be passing within a few miles of Amargosa, and likewise would be a good spot to stop if needed the morning of Day Three.
    Starting to think about water. Do you have a current head count Phil? I am starting to think about how much of the water cache each person will be able to use. Not a big deal I guess, if Kathleen/Michelle can carry some more with them. I have a 6 gal reservoir we could use for that. I think the toughest section will be Furnace Cr to Furnace Cr turnoff, which will be 40mi + water for camp/food + 70mi and +/- 5,000ft on Day 2. Are the water caches you left well hidden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    Starting to think about water. Do you have a current head count Phil? I am starting to think about how much of the water cache each person will be able to use. Not a big deal I guess, if Kathleen/Michelle can carry some more with them. I have a 6 gal reservoir we could use for that. I think the toughest section will be Furnace Cr to Furnace Cr turnoff, which will be 40mi + water for camp/food + 70mi and +/- 5,000ft on Day 2. Are the water caches you left well hidden?
    At this time, there are 6 riders and three drivers. I didn't know how many riders to expect, so I set up two water caches to coincide with each camp site. Both caches were well hidden, and I trust remote enough to still be there, but I will double check on Friday, Feb 28. So far, there are only 4 gallons cached at camp 1. Again, a combination of not having a headcount yet when I went out over Christmas, and I figured that because we are riding through Furnace Creek, we can all top off before hitting the last 40 miles of relatively flat dirt road (or nearly same distance paved if anyone's not "feeling" the dirt road flats experience). That being said, I will stock up the first cache to 10 gallons. At camp 2, there are 10 gallons cached. If I have enough time, I will get up there on the 28th and cache another 10. I know that at this time, all three drivers intend to meet up with us at night to camp out, and so there will be the option of their carrying additional water for us. They've offered to ferry beer...I'm sure water will not be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    [B]The 2014 Death Valley 230 Miler is on!

    It's going to be epic.
    So my question to the six riders..... what is your preferred beer for post-ride camp festivities? I have reserved a room for Fri night so plan to see you all off on Sat morning. You could bring your own beer choices which I will haul in a cooler.... or you could leave the selection up to me and Doug and Michelle. We can also haul water. Hauling of any gear will require significant bribes

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    Death Valley 230 Miler, March 1 - 3, 2014

    As long as it's icy cold, any beer after a hundred miles is going to be the BEST tasting beer EVER.

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    Sounds good, thanks for the reply Phil. Between Furnace Creek and the stashes we should be good. Forgot to mention in my post, Isignay/Ilya has confirmed he is in. We will be leaving SD around 2-230 so hopefully getting in to Beatty around 9-10.

    As for beers, if anyone has requests for SD beers for this trip I can help hook you up.

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    File this under hard to believe....

    10 Day Weather Forecast for Furnace Creek - weather.com

    How does Death Valley dirt ride after a rain?

    Hopefully it turns out to be nothing like most other forecast storms have in CA this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    File this under hard to believe....

    10 Day Weather Forecast for Furnace Creek - weather.com

    How does Death Valley dirt ride after a rain?

    Hopefully it turns out to be nothing like most other forecast storms have in CA this year.
    I know, huh?? What are the chances?? Funny in an ironic sort of way. Most of what we'll be on is either gravel road or pavement. Depending on how wet it gets, 20-Mule Team Canyon (a short side-detour on the way down the hill from Dante's View Road to the Echo Canyon turnoff) could be snot an unrideable. But it's optional anyway, some cool photo ops, but would not be worth trying to mash through peanut butter. And look at it this way. Not many people get to see it rain in Death Valley. It's gonna be great. Just bring a waterproof bivy. I've got extra tyvek wrapping if anybody needs any.

    EDIT: the weather forecast looks like it's changed since I checked it on Thursday. From 60% chance of rain Saturday and 30% on Sunday, we're now just looking at 30% on Saturday. If we get rain in the morning, some of the climb up to Red Pass could be muddy, but I highly doubt it's going to be a wide-spread soaker. Seems if anything, it will be hit & miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    I know, huh?? What are the chances?? Funny in an ironic sort of way. Most of what we'll be on is either gravel road or pavement. Depending on how wet it gets, 20-Mule Team Canyon (a short side-detour on the way down the hill from Dante's View Road to the Echo Canyon turnoff) could be snot an unrideable. But it's optional anyway, some cool photo ops, but would not be worth trying to mash through peanut butter. And look at it this way. Not many people get to see it rain in Death Valley. It's gonna be great. Just bring a waterproof bivy. I've got extra tyvek wrapping if anybody needs any.

    EDIT: the weather forecast looks like it's changed since I checked it on Thursday. From 60% chance of rain Saturday and 30% on Sunday, we're now just looking at 30% on Saturday. If we get rain in the morning, some of the climb up to Red Pass could be muddy, but I highly doubt it's going to be a wide-spread soaker. Seems if anything, it will be hit & miss.
    Rain? Clouds? Say it's not so!!! Was really hoping for clear skies this weekend for some starry photos. But, unless there are reports of flooding, we're still in

    I will be spending Fri night at the Exchange Club to see you all off on Saturday morning. New beer plan is that you please bring your beer of choice and give it to me cold on Sat morning. I'll pack it into one of several coolers and it will be waiting for you at camp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    As for beers, if anyone has requests for SD beers for this trip I can help hook you up.
    It's not exactly a SD beer, but if you could round up a Pliny or two..... I'm bringing my last one!! That Ballast Point Sculpin was darn good from Kentucky Camp. Don't I owe you a Yuengling?? I have a few left. I also have a few of those Kentucky Bourbon Barrel aged porters from back east.
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    I'll see if I can find any this week. Otherwise, there are plenty of ipa's here that are as good or better than pliny. Ballast point had a grapefruit version of Sculpin on over the weekend that was really good. I'll see if they have any left. I didn't get to try either of the beers you mention so for sure, bring them along!

    Forecast continues to evolve, so will just keep an eye on it. I was hoping not to need my bivy, but will see how things go this week...

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    Do you think if there is a heavy rain Friday night that the 20-Mule Team Canyon side route would be too messy by the time we got there?

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    Unless it's a prolonged soaker, I think 20-Muleteam Canyon ought to be ridable by Sunday. That's my plan anyway. See you in Beatty Friday night!

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