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    All Mt vs. Cross Country

    Im posting in the arizona thread in hopes that people will use examples of trails ive ridden on. Im trying to figure out whether to call myself a xc or am rider. What would you call the trails like trail 100, thunderbird park, deem hills, white tanks, and black canyon trail? Lots of them have farely smooth and fast sections, but the technical and rocky parts may lean more towards the description of all mountain.


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    I do believe it's called mountain biking.

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    It is only AM if you have the right socks.

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    How rad are you getting? Is there chunk? Are you taking the right supplements? Do you have the right barcode? Can you clean all of TrialDoc's improvements? THIS IS VITAL INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I have these socks so I'm all good.
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    HA! This guy/gal opened up the floodgates!

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    I think it's AM when riding before noon.

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    I believe a mountain dew needs to be consumed shortly before, during or immediately after your ride in order to qualify as AM.

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    ALL of PMP = XC

    SOMO = AM/DH/FR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggy View Post
    ALL of PMP = XC

    SOMO = AM/DH/FR
    WRONG! SOMO=((XC/FR^DH)-"old school"DH/tomac) X inverse logAM/fiveten

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatdrinkride View Post
    I have these socks so I'm all good.
    Sorry, too short to be AM, got the right logo tho.

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    XC is for women and lady boys, AM is for real men who like Gnar and boobs.

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    There is a lot of AM in PMP, just need to know where to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    I do believe it's called mountain biking.
    <-- BEST answer!!!!

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    AM just means riding with reckless abandon on really rough trails - a combo that will break your XC bike faster than your AM bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKA Monkeybutt View Post
    There is a lot of AM in PMP, just need to know where to find it.
    ah man, don't get buggy started with that again.
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    Just ride your bike and have fun, don't worry about labeling yourself.

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    Its taking a downhill bike to an XC trail, or an XC bike to a downhill trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    I think it's AM when riding before noon.
    Hmmm I thought it was the opposite ( maybe its opposite day? Spongebob ) xc guys are up at the crack of dawn, and AM guys usually are out around noonish due to bro'ing it all night and having a hangover ....or maybe it's riding hangover all day and..... ahhhh hell I'm all now
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    Quote Originally Posted by helidave View Post
    XC is for women and lady boys, AM is for real men who like Gnar and boobs.
    Hehe......lady boys.

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    i would label OP as,,, a stickler.

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    So what is freeride then?

    Freeride used to mean riding your bike to the top (hence no lift ticket = free). Now "Free Ride" is something totally different, more like free style. All mountain is the new free-ride bike right? and the free ride bike is a huckster's downhiller right? If you ride your XC bike to the top how can you get back down? Take the lift? I'm so confused...What if I want to ride a rigid SS? Can I even take it on a trail? or is it only suitable for riding the side show when the circus comes to town??
    Check my pulse...

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    Bike industry folks sure have created quite a stir through marketing eh? Now we don't just have many different bikes to choose from but also a certain look is needed to go along with your new bike! I would love to say I'm above all of this but honestly.........I'm just as hooked as the next guy. All in all it's still just mountain biking. This newish separation within the sport sort of reminds me of snowboarding when it was still fairly new. The Burton marketing people were pretty smart with the whole mocking the sport of skiing thing but now a days most mountain town people agree it's all just sliding on snow.

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    haha you said riding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKA Monkeybutt View Post
    There is a lot of AM in PMP, just need to know where to find it.
    There is ZERO, ZILCH, NOTTA any kind of AM riding in PMP. Maybe nancy boy xc riders call it AM. but come on, seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKA Monkeybutt View Post
    There is a lot of AM in PMP, just need to know where to find it.
    Iff you think PMP is AM, I suggest stepping up your game and get rid of the 29'er

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggy View Post
    Iff you think PMP is AM, I suggest stepping up your game and get rid of the 29'er
    Stroke ssssllllooooowwwwweeeerrrrrr. It will last longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Stroke ssssllllooooowwwwweeeerrrrrr. It will last longer.
    its all about multiples

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    Hate to bust you bubble Bug but PMP has just as tech stuff than SoMo. SoMo has longer hills but most of the East side of the mountain is a freeway with a few little tech spots thrown in.

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    Hey Buggy, my hubby and I are going to ride some XC trails (cheesegrater/hairball) tomorrow, on our trail bikes, sporting XC shoes, wearing AM lids, roadie sunglasses, and DH socks. Come see if you can hang.....or shut up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    Bike industry folks sure have created quite a stir through marketing eh? Now we don't just have many different bikes to choose from but also a certain look is needed to go along with your new bike! I would love to say I'm above all of this but honestly.........I'm just as hooked as the next guy. All in all it's still just mountain biking. This newish separation within the sport sort of reminds me of snowboarding when it was still fairly new. The Burton marketing people were pretty smart with the whole mocking the sport of skiing thing but now a days most mountain town people agree it's all just sliding on snow.
    i cringe every time someone says 'scalded monkey'. this thread is full retard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chollaball View Post
    i cringe every time someone says 'scalded monkey'. this thread is full retard.
    Oooohh, better watch out. Buggy probably has a mentally challenged member of his family and will be offended at your use of the R word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    Oooohh, better watch out. Buggy probably has a mentally challenged member of his family and will be offended at your use of the R word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKA Monkeybutt View Post
    Hate to bust you bubble Bug but PMP has just as tech stuff than SoMo. SoMo has longer hills but most of the East side of the mountain is a freeway with a few little tech spots thrown in.
    Not bursting my bubble, but if you think PMP is just as tech as SoMo you really need to step it up.

    NOTHING at PMP even comes close to Holbert, Geronimo or 24th St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggy View Post
    Not bursting my bubble, but if you think PMP is just as tech as SoMo you really need to step it up.

    NOTHING at PMP even comes close to Holbert, Geronimo or 24th St.

    Not Hatin' Just Sayin'
    You should explore more, there are trails in that park that are horrifying on a bike; steep, exposed, and extreme jagged rock (extreme penalty for failure)...just wander off the everyday trails and try some other stuff. I'm not a regular at PMP but I've been noticed that if you seek elevation you will get gnar with it...And there are bulk trails in that park..
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    Geronimo is rad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayem View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    Bike industry folks sure have created quite a stir through marketing eh? Now we don't just have many different bikes to choose from but also a certain look is needed to go along with your new bike! I would love to say I'm above all of this but honestly.........I'm just as hooked as the next guy. All in all it's still just mountain biking. This newish separation within the sport sort of reminds me of snowboarding when it was still fairly new. The Burton marketing people were pretty smart with the whole mocking the sport of skiing thing but now a days most mountain town people agree it's all just sliding on snow.
    I disagree.....a snowboard is still a toy.....a pair of skis, or a splitboard is a tool.




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    Alot of I am bader than tho in this thread..Best response was its called mountain biking ...now go ride when the sun rises release that work week tension..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhls View Post
    Buggy, I've ridden Geronimo and 24st on my 29er countless times and while they are both entertaining and a blast to ride, neither trail is gnarly enough to give me the slightest cause for pause. I hear Holbert is a bit "gnarlier", but if my buddy rides it, knowing his skill set, it can't be that gnarly. I agree that all the talk of how tech Hairball, Cheesegrater, etc, are, is a bit much, especially when you see all these videos of riders crawling down these sections fully padded up on dh bikes. To get into a debate, or borderline childish argument, about whether Somo or PMP has gnarlier terrain is simply ridiculous. What may be super tech and gnarly to one person, may be a sidewalk to another. What may be fast to one, may be a crawl to another. I will ride my nancy boy xc 29er up and down anything this valley puts in my way, includng Geronimo, then turn around and smoke 99% of the super hard Somo crew that shuttled thier fat @sses up the mountain.
    I'll be out at Somo tomorrow, look for the guy you can't keep up with....up or down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    Dang! You are def The Most Rad!!! Mad props bro!!!
    Now that I've returned to Austin, from my little AZ vacation, someone needs to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    Now that I've returned to Austin, from my little AZ vacation, someone needs to be!
    You guys should make a medallion or a crown you can pass back and forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m77ranger View Post
    You guys should make a medallion or a crown you can pass back and forth.
    It could maybe look like this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maadjurguer View Post
    I disagree.....a snowboard is still a toy.....a pair of skis, or a splitboard is a tool.
    If you feel that a snowboard is a toy then you prob are not doin it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhls View Post
    Buggy, I've ridden Geronimo and 24st on my 29er countless times and while they are both entertaining and a blast to ride, neither trail is gnarly enough to give me the slightest cause for pause. I hear Holbert is a bit "gnarlier", but if my buddy rides it, knowing his skill set, it can't be that gnarly. I agree that all the talk of how tech Hairball, Cheesegrater, etc, are, is a bit much, especially when you see all these videos of riders crawling down these sections fully padded up on dh bikes. To get into a debate, or borderline childish argument, about whether Somo or PMP has gnarlier terrain is simply ridiculous. What may be super tech and gnarly to one person, may be a sidewalk to another. What may be fast to one, may be a crawl to another. I will ride my nancy boy xc 29er up and down anything this valley puts in my way, includng Geronimo, then turn around and smoke 99% of the super hard Somo crew that shuttled thier fat @sses up the mountain.
    I'll be out at Somo tomorrow, look for the guy you can't keep up with....up or down.
    Wow you sound really cool. Can I ride with you? I ride a pro-flex and think I can keep up.
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    I normally stay out of these stupid PMP vs SOMO debates and usually hate to stoke a troll's fire, but one time Short Bus James introduced me to the Quartz trail at PMP and that thing made me scared for my life. The upper portion literally has parts where falling off will probably lead to death. While navigating that exposure, you then have to travel down a series of drops and switchbacks, with so many tire traps, it was damn near impossible. Way scarier than Holbert.
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    Holbert isn't scary ..Now H.O. now thats scary..whiteline insane scary
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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwork View Post
    Holbert isn't scary ..Now H.O. now thats scary..whiteline insane scary
    What is H.O? And I agree, Holbert is tough, but not really scary....anymore.
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    if you haven ridden H.O. or H.L. or what others call the triple H . your missing some sweet stuff along with even more your probably missing in the north..
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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwork View Post
    if you haven ridden H.O. or H.L. or what others call the triple H . your missing some sweet stuff along with even more your probably missing in the north..
    Oh right. That is some scary stuff......I know it as high line, but yep, wicked scary, pray you don't die because its a real possibilty type of trail.
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