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    2014: Reptile sightings thread

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    Parents backyard along Ahwatukee Foothills GC
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    Let's see them guys! I saw a Gila Monster pic in a new photo thread here so I know the creepy crawlers are coming out now.
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    2014: Reptile sightings thread

    This guy was crawling along a Brown's Ranch trail.


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    2014: Reptile sightings thread

    Saw a burrowing owl on the trail last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Saw a burrowing owl on the trail last night.
    Those are cool! We had a breeding pair of them in the back lot of our Havasu place.
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    2014: Reptile sightings thread

    Will contribute as soon as I summon up the courage!! I was raised into fearing snakes so I always get a little squirmish this time of year. But, can't let that keep me off my bike!!!


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    So far this year it's been a snake a month. I rode by a rattle snake at Papago Park in January (no pics). Saw this rattlesnake on Desert Classic in February:
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    Saw this guy yesterday at Brown's Ranch:
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    I ran over this guy last Friday at PMP northeast is Piestewa Peak. He was pissed.

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    I finally saw a Gila Monster that wasn't on a bike.
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    Ran into this guy on Saturday. My first time seeing one of these out in the wild. I will say, it tasted pretty good too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dag Nabbit View Post
    I finally saw a Gila Monster that wasn't on a bike.
    Did that Gila run into that rock crack or was it there all along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Ran into this guy on Saturday. My first time seeing one of these out in the wild. I will say, it tasted pretty good too.
    I've seen two of these in the wilds. One was dead.

    Back to back Federally Protected species sightings! Very cool!!!
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    Saw snakes at Brown's Ranch and the Sonoran Preserve in the last 2 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Did that Gila run into that rock crack or was it there all along?
    He was on the trail when I ran into him, then he strolled off trail, climbed onto a large rock and found this crack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dag Nabbit View Post
    He was on the trail when I ran into him, then he strolled off trail, climbed onto a large rock and found this crack.
    I will be out on the AZ Trail (Picket Post) in a few weeks and possibly Black Canyon Trail the next day while I'm in town. I hope to find one of these critters. It's at the very top of my reptile encounters list.

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    Saw a small chuckwalla at Thunderbird Park but didn't get a photo.

    I really want to know if there are any biped reptiles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    Saw a small chuckwalla at Thunderbird Park but didn't get a photo.

    I really want to know if there are any biped reptiles...
    biped? When running, you may see the Collared & Leopard lizards up on their two rear legs with the front ones tucked up against their body for short distances. They can really move fast when they want to in open stretches.


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    Wasn't a joke but it could have easily turned into one. I'll go first: hikers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn-Rider View Post
    Saw a small chuckwalla at Thunderbird Park but didn't get a photo.

    I really want to know if there are any biped reptiles...
    and do they use clipless or flats?

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    Re: 2014: Reptile sightings thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    I will be out on the AZ Trail (Picket Post) in a few weeks and possibly Black Canyon Trail the next day while I'm in town. I hope to find one of these critters. It's at the very top of my reptile encounters list.

    Thanks again for posting!!!
    Just did an overnighter this past weekend at Picket Post to Kelvin. Did not see any Gila monsters but did come across two rattle snakes. Scared the bejesus out of me.

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    A pair of diamondbacks caught in the act at Gold Canyon last week. Saw another one a couple of days ago stretched out across the trail. Close call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    A pair of diamondbacks caught in the act at Gold Canyon last week. Saw another one a couple of days ago stretched out across the trail. Close call.

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    2014: Reptile sightings thread

    I gotta stop looking at this thread!when it comes to snakes I'm a royal pantywaist so these pics don't make me wanna ride 😬. Yeah I know, gotta get over it


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    Last fall I was riding with a buddy at the Enterprise South trail in Chattanooga. I heard my buddy yell. I turned around and he's all over the trail like he is about to wreck. He said a copperhead was on the side of the trail and struck at me as I passed. The strike forced the snake to sort of hop from the side of the trail to the middle, right in front of my buddy. He avoided it luckily. When I turned around I saw a good size copperhead in the middle of the trail. He just looked pissed. Those squinty eyes zeroed in on me. It was using these tiny little arms to wave a battle ax, and little satanic demons were coming out of its mouth as it moaned for my soul. Least that's how I saw it. I don't take pictures of those things. I get the full body heeby jeeby shiver and go like hell in the opposite direction. When I get home I shower twice, and throw the bike in the trash. Not a fan of snakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeter97 View Post
    I gotta stop looking at this thread!when it comes to snakes I'm a royal pantywaist so these pics don't make me wanna ride 😬. Yeah I know, gotta get over it


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    I ran over a snake this past Monday night... not a rattler, about the size of a garter snake but tan and brown in color...

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    Sonoran Gopher snake

    Looked just like a diamondback when I first saw it. Made sure there were no rattles before getting closer. S/he's about a 4.5 footer. K-trail, Gold Canyon.

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    Thought I already posted this one up here, must not have. This beauty was in Gold Canyon near the top of K Trail back on March 19, around 4 pm.

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    Came around a corner on Snowbird and was face to face with this beauty. He did an immediate about face and lumbered away.

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    ^Sweet!!!! Was were the weather conditions like and the time of day when you saw the monster?
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    Is Snowbird kosher again? I've been avoiding it ever since someone said it was an environmental disaster waiting to happen.

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    It was last Saturday around 11:15, so low 80s.

    Dunno about kosher, but it rode fine. Someone did a re-route on one short section since the last time I rode it, but not in the area that I think is the "worst" routing, which are the couple of sharp switchbacks going down on the west slope (not that there was a choice for the routing). I wouldn't go up that way; too loose; but that area seemed better than the last time I rode it, which was many months ago. I went out to check out Transition (N to S) and you basically get routed to Snowbird.

    That's the second gila monster I've seen in the 11 years I've been riding in AZ.

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    I've only seen 1 in 10 years, so maybe I'm due sometime next year?

    Thanks for the info on Transition/Snowbird. I'll check it out.

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    Not nearly as good as the rattlers, gila monsters and tortoise's but this little guy seemed to be begging to have it's picture taken. I was at the bench at the top of Tonto Tank in MMP and it was on a rock just to the south of the bench. It kept moving around on the rock like it was trying to get my attention (and my PBJ) and let me get really close to it a bunch of times while trying to get the picture.


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    You guys are killing me with your Gila Monsters, LOL!!!

    I rode out there all weekend in two prime habitat locations,...and ...nothing...

    I did move a Sonoran Gopher Snake off the trail at BCT, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    You guys are killing me with your Gila Monsters, LOL!!!

    I rode out there all weekend in two prime habitat locations,...and ...nothing...

    I did move a Sonoran Gopher Snake off the trail at BCT, though.

    I think I ran in to you guys there yesterday. I was on the Enduro, not wanting to be lost doing the loop. If that was you guys who recommended me go to the river and back, than thanks. That was a good section of trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tysonnemb View Post
    I think I ran in to you guys there yesterday. I was on the Enduro, not wanting to be lost doing the loop. If that was you guys who recommended me go to the river and back, than thanks. That was a good section of trail.
    Yes, it was us you spoke with where the trail crossed the fire road. How'd the rest of the ride go for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Yes, it was us you spoke with where the trail crossed the fire road. How'd the rest of the ride go for you?
    Very well, thanks. Although I quickly regretted not bringing any sort of food. That was quickly resolved with pie, though. JD Pecan Pie is life changing.

    Yeah I keep hearing how that trail is littered with wildlife. I have seen a rattle snake and a tarantula, and a ton of cows. Gila monster is one of my goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tysonnemb View Post
    Very well, thanks. Although I quickly regretted not bringing any sort of food. That was quickly resolved with pie, though. JD Pecan Pie is life changing.

    Yeah I keep hearing how that trail is littered with wildlife. I have seen a rattle snake and a tarantula, and a ton of cows. Gila monster is one of my goals.
    You were able to get in at the Rock Springs cafe?! We couldn't handle the one hour wait so we headed South for grub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    You were able to get in at the Rock Springs cafe?! We couldn't handle the one hour wait so we headed South for grub.
    Well I was able to get in to buy a whole pie for home. Yeah that place gets nice and crowded on weekends.
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    I've seen one rattlesnake at Brown's Ranch and ran over a non-rattler on Pemberton over the weekend. Obviously not a reptile, but I have seen more deer in the McDowells over the past 2 months than I have seen in the 12 years I have lived here.
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    A pair of diamondbacks caught in the act at Gold Canyon last week. Saw another one a couple of days ago stretched out across the trail. Close call.

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    Came across a guy who had just finished killing a rattler yesterday at Deem. I was coming down the southern downhill part and saw some guy climbing around in the rocks off the trail and in general looking crazy.By time I got to him he had just finished the deed and was busy scooping the rattler out of the rocks. He then placed it stretched out with head on the trail and the body off the trail. I had stopped at this point and he just looked at me and said, "this thing will kill a kid". I said yeah, but do you know how many are out here? It's part of the deal of being in the desert. I then said the people who get bit are the ones going off trail and moving rocks around in order to get to the snake in the first place.

    He re-iterated his point of it being able to kill a kid, and walked away (with the head still on the trail). After he left I grabbed a stick and flung it off the trail. Shitty situation all around.

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    For what it's worth, I don't have a lot of love for them... but I do respect them. I wouldn't ever kill one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatmike2112 View Post
    Came across a guy who had just finished killing a rattler yesterday at Deem. I was coming down the southern downhill part and saw some guy climbing around in the rocks off the trail and in general looking crazy.By time I got to him he had just finished the deed and was busy scooping the rattler out of the rocks. He then placed it stretched out with head on the trail and the body off the trail. I had stopped at this point and he just looked at me and said, "this thing will kill a kid". I said yeah, but do you know how many are out here? It's part of the deal of being in the desert. I then said the people who get bit are the ones going off trail and moving rocks around in order to get to the snake in the first place.

    He re-iterated his point of it being able to kill a kid, and walked away (with the head still on the trail). After he left I grabbed a stick and flung it off the trail. Shitty situation all around.
    Thats always my favorite line to here from snake killers. I always just ask them " do you mean people like you?" It tends to get my point across and ends our interaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatmike2112 View Post
    Came across a guy who had just finished killing a rattler yesterday at Deem. I was coming down the southern downhill part and saw some guy climbing around in the rocks off the trail and in general looking crazy.By time I got to him he had just finished the deed and was busy scooping the rattler out of the rocks. He then placed it stretched out with head on the trail and the body off the trail. I had stopped at this point and he just looked at me and said, "this thing will kill a kid". I said yeah, but do you know how many are out here? It's part of the deal of being in the desert. I then said the people who get bit are the ones going off trail and moving rocks around in order to get to the snake in the first place.

    He re-iterated his point of it being able to kill a kid, and walked away (with the head still on the trail). After he left I grabbed a stick and flung it off the trail. Shitty situation all around.
    I wouldn't argue with the guy that just killed a rattlesnake. Probably not right in the head.
    I don't mess with snakes but I wouldn't cry over a dead one either. If it's not crazy Billy that poaches one it's gonna be an owl or hawk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    I wouldn't argue with the guy that just killed a rattlesnake. Probably not right in the head.
    I don't mess with snakes but I wouldn't cry over a dead one either. If it's not crazy Billy that poaches one it's gonna be an owl or hawk.
    You're probably right in regards to arguing with him, though it was a pretty civilized conversation. Sounds like we are pretty much on the same page though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBeing View Post
    Nothin' meaner than a rattlesnake in heat!


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    I beg to differ. I've known a few girls in heat during my time that would put a rattlesnake in heat to rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawg View Post
    i beg to differ. I've known a few girls in heat during my time that would put a rattlesnake in heat to rest.
    heyo !

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    Yeah I keep hearing how that trail is littered with wildlife. I have seen a rattle snake and a tarantula, and a ton of cows. Gila monster is one of my goals.
    I was stopped on the trail yesterday by someone saying there was a Gila Monster just off the trail about 1/2 mile up. I was bummed I didn't find it. I've only come across a handful in the wild and I'm an AZ native.


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    Chuckwalla at PMP yesterday.
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    I found this guy reading MTBR.

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    Nice chucky there Dag.

    I've had nice reptile sightings the past couple of weeks, time for a photo dump.

    I've been mountain biking in AZ since '94, the first 19 years ZERO Gila Monsters, the past 12 months - FIVE!!
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    Saw two desert tortoises about an hour apart out in Gold Canyon, again only the 2nd & 3rd I've ever seen in the wild.


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    Saw this fella at Picketpost on the downhill after the 10-mile overlook.


    and finally, this one in Martinez Canyon. I had to follow this guy around a bit waiting for the sunny shot!
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    Freeskier46, do you know what type of snake that is in the top picture you posted? I saw two of those when I was there recently but I have been unable to positively I.D. it since.

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    Arizona Wandering Garter Snake from first glance.
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    Hawg: I'm no snake expert, but I'd guess it is a garter snake of some variety. It was fairly long 3-4' and really fast. The middle rattler was a bit annoyed that we interrupted his tanning session. Spotted both of those on Hawes/Twisted Sister. The bull snake was on the Florence-Kelvin hwy near the A-Diamond ranch and about 6' long.
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    It's a Patch-Nosed snake. Non venomous.

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    Last night's ride. DO NOT HARM THIS GUY!
    This is the best snake to have in the desert - it's non-venomous and it eats rodents and RATTLESNAKES !

    He was pretty sluggish and wouldn't move, I didn't want to run him over although he probably wouldn't be hurt by it.

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    I almost had a clean run through Lower Cheesegrater last night and on the very last little ledge, which would have been super easy, I find an angry rattle coming from the bottom. Had to abort my second clean run through the Grater. Drat! I probably stopped two feet in front of him. He was super pissed, but meandered right off the trail after giving me the evil eye. I was happy to be about a foot above though, it made me feel a little bit safer.
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    Came across a common king along Fenceline soon after Dag's rattler run-in. Picked him up and moved him off the trail. Favorite snake out there.

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    Ran over this guy at MMP last week. He didn't seem to mind.
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    Coming around the corner just before the climb up to the saddle at Pass Mountain, this guy was coiled and rattling. He was not at all happy to see a bike (must be an equestrian snake).
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    You wonder how does a Kingsnake eat a rattlesnake.... well here you go.


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    When we were kids, we would feed other snakes to California Kings. They aren't picky at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    When we were kids, we would feed other snakes to California Kings. They aren't picky at all.
    that's probably the best way to enforce term limits

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    You wonder how does a Kingsnake eat a rattlesnake.... well here you go.

    That is awesome! Learned something new today.

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    Saw this beast on Saturday on the Boulders segment of the AZT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by metalaficionado View Post
    You wonder how does a Kingsnake eat a rattlesnake.... well here you go.
    That is awesome.

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    Here's another shot of the same beast, dang thing was huge!!! Well fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Freeskier46, do you know what type of snake that is in the top picture you posted? I saw two of those when I was there recently but I have been unable to positively I.D. it since.

    Does anyone here know?
    A great reference site here: The Reptiles and Amphibians of Arizona

    But Cope was spot on with his ID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idaz View Post
    A great reference site here: The Reptiles and Amphibians of Arizona

    But Cope was spot on with his ID.
    Cool thanks!!!!

    I have finally ID'ed the two snakes I saw out there, Western Patch Nosed Snake.

    Funny thing is that I caught this species where i live in Los Angeles and it is far darker in the color phase in this location so it never occurred to me to think it was the same snake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeskier46 View Post
    Here's another shot of the same beast, dang thing was huge!!! Well fed.
    and pissed off

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    Hijacked by a So Cal snake!

    Here's a my first encounter of Spring. I'm over in So Cal and this is a 13" San Diego Gopher snake.

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    In Sedona

    Saw this little guy last weekend. Very small but I assumed it packs a big punch! I mean, look at that head! So, what kind is it? Baby rattle?

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    Hard to be definitive but from looking at the Arizona snake websites could be a Rock Rattlesnake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwaved View Post
    Saw this little guy last weekend. Very small but I assumed it packs a big punch! I mean, look at that head! So, what kind is it? Baby rattle?

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    Where EXACTLY did you see it?

    If you saw it in North-Western AZ, it looks mostly like a Western Rattlesnake- Crotalus oreganus lutosus

    If you saw it in So Cal, it's a Southern Pacific Rattlesnake- Crotalus oreganus helleri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Where EXACTLY did you see it?

    If you saw it in North-Western AZ, it looks mostly like a Western Rattlesnake- Crotalus oreganus lutosus

    If you saw it in So Cal, it's a Southern Pacific Rattlesnake- Crotalus oreganus helleri
    In Sedona. Exactly at the intersection of Templeton and Made in the Shade! Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwaved View Post
    In Sedona. Exactly at the intersection of Templeton and Made in the Shade! Ha!
    Then it's a Western Rattlesnake. Nice find!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwaved View Post
    Saw this little guy last weekend. Very small but I assumed it packs a big punch! I mean, look at that head! So, what kind is it? Baby rattle?

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    my vote would be a juvenile arizona black
    Arizona Black Rattlesnake (Crotalus cerberus) - Reptiles of Arizona

    western rattlesnakes are in a different range

    Arizona blacks are more common than you think... here is one I caught on video near Mt Union which is near Prescott.



    here is a video of a juvenile... looks exactly like the one you saw in Sedona.
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    ^ Yes, I agree. the juv phase of this particular snake is strikingly different than the adult phase. ^
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    Hawg:

    Yeah I don't really get a sense of scale on the Sedona Photo, but I do in the video of the juvi black. This snake seen in Sedona must be really small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    Hawg:

    Yeah I don't really get a sense of scale on the Sedona Photo, but I do in the video of the juvi black. This snake seen in Sedona must be really small.
    In my experience, many of these rattlers look alike as juvs. That Black looks very similar to a Southern Pacific which I have encountered countless times in my home terrain. Our SPRs get really dark with age but they sure do start out brilliant like this juv Black.
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    Kingsnake

    Saw this kingsnake in reach 11
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    Really fantastic shots. You could frame these.
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    Saw this beast on Saturday on the Boulders segment of the AZT.


    Here's to sweat in your eye.

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    Well, today clears the big question I've had, you can hear a rattlesnake just fine with your Ipod blaring.
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    ^ Long-nosed snake?
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    Common king snake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    Common king snake.

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    No, that is a long-nosed snake. I've caught several in the Mohave Desert.

    Here are some pics of AZ Long-nosed snakes:
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    Huh. All these years I thought these were a variety of king snakes. Thanks for the ID, Hawg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilaMonster View Post
    Huh. All these years I thought these were a variety of king snakes. Thanks for the ID, Hawg!

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    My pleasure!

    These are really cool snakes. They are sand swimmers by nature but they do come up to hunt for prey. I have to assume that there is loose sand not far from your home?
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    Open desert.

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    Yep, my vote is long nosed snake.. nice id Hawg

    Long-nosed Snake (Rhinocheilus lecontei) - Reptiles of Arizona

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    Yep, my vote is long nosed snake.. nice id Hawg

    Long-nosed Snake (Rhinocheilus lecontei) - Reptiles of Arizona
    Maybe we should go on a trail riding/herp hunting combo adventure sometime.
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