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    Wear Helmet or Not To

    Just lately am having sum not so newbie riders with me doing some downhills and trails. Noticed few of them ride without a helmet on their brain shell. Sum just wear caps, some don't. I asked one why not wear a helmet, he simply replied that "its not that risky" ...... I just answered .... Hmmmm.
    Ahhh, dowhills and offroads ... ruts and potholes ... and more offroads and rough roads and dirt roads ... Ahhh.

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    Not wearing a helmet is just plain stupid! Risk has nothing to do with it. You could be standing still, fall over and smack your head sending you into a permanent vegatative state.
    But it's thier choice.
    Some of the public places that I ride require the use of a helmet.

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    Wear one

    Honestly in all my years riding I haven't crashed and found my helmet was needed, but there are times I've come pretty close to disaster and I'm sure the helmet would play a part in saving my head.

    A good helmet these days are light and comfortable, I don't even realize it's on my head after a while.
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    You know why? Coz it's "cool" and it makes you look tough...silly people who will be sorry one day.

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    In, oh, twenty-seven years of riding bikes, I've crashed less than ten times - that I recall - on my melon. Two of those, without a helmet, I was concussed.

    If you ride without a helmet, sign your organ donor card, and don't expect anyone to pick you up when you fall.

    People who ride without helmets don't deserve to live in polite society. I could give a damn what happens to them, but they, like smokers, are a tax on the rest of us. When a person suffers a preventable (I would say voluntary) long-term injury, society bears a great cost in their long-term care.

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    The only time I remember hitting my head was years ago on my BMX bike. I was booting down the road and was going into the schools parking lot as there was this lil "halfpipe" hill and I rode it just earlier. Well when I was coming back I guess everyone was gone from the school and they put a chain up to close it off....which I didnt see till the last second. So I rode into that and it hit the bars and went up and hit me in the chest and I flew like 6 feet and landed on my back and my head landed on the manhole cover. I dont know if I got knocked out or anything but I got up got on my bike and besides in some pain kept riding...

    I dont think anything of it if others are riding without a helmet. Well I do bug my one friend that had a few staples in his skull when he got hit by a drunk old lady driving her car. But other then that I dont much care, its their life and if they feel the need to risk it without a helmet then I dont care. I guess thats cause I dont ride with a helmet either unless Im riding off road but even then I dont need it ( I say that cause I usually hurt my other body parts then hit my head) though I did hit this one low branch one ride but that was cause I wasnt paying much attention and did duck but it wasnt enough.

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    I fell on my Melon one time...

    Gave myself a concussion and associated short term amnesia. My buds insisted on walking me out and driving me (a long way) home.

    My lid definitely saved me from more serious damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolver888
    Just lately am having sum not so newbie riders with me doing some downhills and trails. Noticed few of them ride without a helmet on their brain shell. Sum just wear caps, some don't. I asked one why not wear a helmet, he simply replied that "its not that risky" ...... I just answered .... Hmmmm.
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    I'm pretty sure I'd be a vegetable right now, if I wasn't wearing a helmet during one of my many crashes years ago. It's a lot like not wearing a seatbelt.

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    Even if I am tooling around the block with my kids I wear my helmet. Yeah it make look ridiculous to some, but the last thing I want is my kids to think its alright to ride around with no lid. They learn by example, and the example I want them to learn is that is never appropriate to ride without a helmet.

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    Wear it.

    I've destroyed enough helmets over the years to know the protection they provide. Had I not been wearing my helmet, I probably wouldn't be typing this.

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    The worst head cracks I've had were on overhanging branches and I've always been thankful there was a helmet there.

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    Well for me it depends on what Im doing. If its just a quick trip around the hood I dont have it on. But if im going to be doing tricks or if going out on a trail I wear the brain bucket. I have hit my head once and had a helmet on it was the most embarsing thing ever a low hang branch de-biked me.

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    If I never started to race or do enduros I dont think I ever wouldve got a helmet. Thats the only reason why I wear one now whenever I go mtbing. I figured I had to get used to wearing one (for racing) so when I got it I always rode with it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abox
    The worst head cracks I've had were on overhanging branches and I've always been thankful there was a helmet there.
    Just today I would have been stabbed by I branch I couldn't duck enough for. Good thud on the bucket really would have hurt my head.

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    I mentioned this in another thread about health insurance but I guess it bears repeating. I work in a rehab facility that deals with brain injury, spinal cord injury and a host of other things. Many of the patients I've worked with have had accidents on either bikes or motorcycles. If you had seen the things I have, you'd never even spin around the block without a helmet on your head. Some of the guys/gals will never walk again and have lost control over their bowel and bladder. Others are walking around with the mentality of a five year old and will wear diapers for the rest of their lives. How "cool" is that?

    All it takes is one jerk blowing through a stop sign at the end f the very street you live on. Wear a freakin' helmet whenever you get on your bike...it's as simple as that. If you're still not convinced, take a trip to a nursing home or adult foster care center some time and chat with the 22 year old kid getting all his meals through a tube.
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    Today, I went for a ride.

    My wife and I went for a ride today. Really nice up here in Calgary. We had a lot of riders on the trails. Of those, about half were parents riding with kids. Of the riders I saw, less than half were wearing helmets. I even saw one parent (no lid) who was riding with his daughter, who was wearing the helmet backwards. The vast majority of the riders I saw wearing lids were serious riders, riding well maintained bikes in a skilled fashion. Why do the casual riders who need the lids the most, end up being the ones who most seldom wear them?
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    I made a split decision one sunny Sunday morning that probably saved my life.

    I was only taking my road bike out a paltry 6 miles down to the coast, just a leisurly cruise.

    I'm glad I wore it. I'd almost considered for a split second to wear my baseball cap.

    Sadly the photo is not the greatest but its a pretty good ding and has left a crack inside. That could have been my skull.
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    I believe most people that don't wear helmets just don't care or believe anything bad will happen to them. I rode motorcycles w/ a freind that never wore a helmet. If I mentioned that injury or death could be the result of an accident I heard " Not going to crash ", "They are not comfortable". I gathered it just isn't a priority to be safe, he will take the risk and suffer the consequence. Personally I wear my helmet on any & every ride. My only question is which one - my full face or XC lid. If I go on a ride w/ anyone w/o a helmet I will lecture them some good reasons to wear a helmet but ultimatly it is there choice , as an adult, to be safe or not.

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    you guys are really making me rethingk my not wearing a helmet on my around the block treks. I mean its not a hassle for me to put the helmet on and its not uncomfterable at all its a nice lite gyro..

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    No helmet needed

    as there apparently is nothing to protect.

    What kind of moron doesn't want to spend $39.99 to protect his/her head?

    You can read the USA stats here, assuming you haven't already suffered death like 800 have this past year.

    Nobody rides with us without one. On the North Shore in Vancouver, you won't see anyone without one. Same at Whistler. And [email protected] few without full face and body armour when needed.

    Dress for the crash, not the ride. Think about it. You never need a seat belt in a car until, well, you can do the math.

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    Nice Feedbacks fellow riders .... this'll be a nice thing for my ride buddies to read on.

    Thank you !!!





    Quote Originally Posted by JimC.
    What kind of moron doesn't want to spend $39.99 to protect his/her head?
    Lots of em where I ride. I hope they learn.
    Ahhh, dowhills and offroads ... ruts and potholes ... and more offroads and rough roads and dirt roads ... Ahhh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uno-speedo
    I made a split decision one sunny Sunday morning that probably saved my life.

    I was only taking my road bike out a paltry 6 miles down to the coast, just a leisurly cruise.

    I'm glad I wore it. I'd almost considered for a split second to wear my baseball cap.

    Sadly the photo is not the greatest but its a pretty good ding and has left a crack inside. That could have been my skull.

    Well, what happened? Someone take offense to the sticker and whack you with a baseball bat? Spit it out man!
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    new helmets rock

    20+ years ago helmets were those huge, ugly, hot, heavy buckets. Nowdays I think helmets can be one of the most personalized, unique, cool parts of ones riding gear. When I see people without a helmet all that comes to mind is what a dork. Wear a helmet!!!!!!!

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    One of my best friends fell straight down about 4 ft onto his noggin while riding quarry park in Madison, wi. He was knocked out cold for 2 minutes, and that was WITH a helmet. He would have been dead for sure without it. WEAR A HELMET

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    Grandma knows best

    When me and two of my friends started to MTB regularly about two years ago my friend cody and I never wore helmets. Our other, and obviuosly more intillegent, friend seth always wore one though. So that went on for a while and though we were all pretty skilled riders we did also crash alot as a result of trying to push ourselves. None of us ever really got hurt so I didn't think it was important to get myself a helmet. I also didn't feel like spending the extra thirty bucks for one either. What happend was I told my grandmother about how we all had been mountain biking alot and of course she thought that sounded very fun and good. That is until I told her Cody and I didn't wear helmets. She flipped out and immediatly called the LBS and pre=paid over the phone for two new helmets. Not wanting to be ungrateful, on our way to the next ride Cody and I stopped and picked up our new, free helmets. On that very same ride Cody blasted down one of the infamous local downhills and was tossed off into the woods on the side of the trail where he rolled for a few yards further. We, Seth and I rode down to see if he was ok. He was except he was pretty dizzy and even though he was wearing his new helmt the back of his head was bleeding pretty good. Upon Closer inspection se found that he had smacked his head on one of those downed trees with the spiky broken off branches sticking out. One had gone straight through the lower back of his helmet and cut into the back base of his head, you know right where it's soft just near where the spine meets the skull. The stick was about as big aound as my pinky finger and had broken off in the hole it made. The didn't stop the stick from giving Code a minor cut but it did stop it from going full lenght straight into his skull or worse. If you consider the force it took to stab through the helmet you could imagine what the stick would have done to his bare head, as it was just the day beore. So thanks to Grandma and and a good helmet my bud Cody didnt have to visit the hospital with a brain injury that day and we all wear helmets on every single ride no matter what now. Thanks Grandma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willridebike4free
    When me and two of my friends started to MTB regularly about two years ago my friend cody and I never wore helmets. Our other, and obviuosly more intillegent, friend seth always wore one though. So that went on for a while and though we were all pretty skilled riders we did also crash alot as a result of trying to push ourselves. None of us ever really got hurt so I didn't think it was important to get myself a helmet. I also didn't feel like spending the extra thirty bucks for one either. What happend was I told my grandmother about how we all had been mountain biking alot and of course she thought that sounded very fun and good. That is until I told her Cody and I didn't wear helmets. She flipped out and immediatly called the LBS and pre=paid over the phone for two new helmets. Not wanting to be ungrateful, on our way to the next ride Cody and I stopped and picked up our new, free helmets. On that very same ride Cody blasted down one of the infamous local downhills and was tossed off into the woods on the side of the trail where he rolled for a few yards further. We, Seth and I rode down to see if he was ok. He was except he was pretty dizzy and even though he was wearing his new helmt the back of his head was bleeding pretty good. Upon Closer inspection se found that he had smacked his head on one of those downed trees with the spiky broken off branches sticking out. One had gone straight through the lower back of his helmet and cut into the back base of his head, you know right where it's soft just near where the spine meets the skull. The stick was about as big aound as my pinky finger and had broken off in the hole it made. The didn't stop the stick from giving Code a minor cut but it did stop it from going full lenght straight into his skull or worse. If you consider the force it took to stab through the helmet you could imagine what the stick would have done to his bare head, as it was just the day beore. So thanks to Grandma and and a good helmet my bud Cody didnt have to visit the hospital with a brain injury that day and we all wear helmets on every single ride no matter what now. Thanks Grandma.
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    Darwinism will take care of 'em. Those w/o helmets will eventually go splat and then be unable to pass on the stupidity gene. The next generation will have fewer helmetless idiots.
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    yep helmets help a lot

    yeh 5 weeks ago when I flipped over my handle bars and broke my collar bone I hit my head on the ground too and I didnt notice it at that time but my helmet cracked from hitting the ground so it definatly helped me a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Bob
    Well, what happened? Someone take offense to the sticker and whack you with a baseball bat? Spit it out man!
    Haha no, lol!

    Fell down this head first whilst admiring the view, doh! Yeah, I know...I know.
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    I'd no. There really isn't much reason for them to be wearing one, if they are doing that with just a ball cap on. Like putting a suit of armour on a skeleton.
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    Why bother....

    ...if you don't value your head, than don't!

    I have destroyed 2 helmets, the first when I flew OTB and the bike (the pedal, in fact) smashed the back of the helmet in. Would have been easily the worst place for a nasty piece of metal to slam into - the base of your skull/top of your neck.

    Helmet #2 DOA as I smashed myself, face first, at a race in Snowmass Colorado - as you can see my face got messed up, but my head (which hit the ground first) id fine. That helmet was fully mangled, doing it's job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locoman
    Darwinism will take care of 'em. Those w/o helmets will eventually go splat and then be unable to pass on the stupidity gene. The next generation will have fewer helmetless idiots.
    Unfortunatly not, the parents and loved ones of them will sue. "Personal responsability" is just not possible in this society, and when someone has their head cracked open, paramedics ARE going to be called, no matter what. I wouldn't have any problem with someone deciding to ride without a helmet if it would never impact the rest of us, but it does, with trail/land closures, medical/funeral costs, etc...

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    Well, it depends...

    Actually, it depends if you have a deathwish or something. On the group rides I go with, the guides won't allow for anyone without a helmet. Maybe they'd let them if they go naked, but not without a helmet.

    One time, a friend of mine forgot his helmet, we decided to go on. On my next ride, one guy in the group got a bad accident. It was on a rocky road (nothing tooo technical, but you never know), and he just fell. He broke his collarbone and got some bruises, but his head was OK, but the helmet was broken like in 3 or 4 pieces. I decided that I wouldn't ride with someone not wearing a Helmet.

    You do get used to them, they are not unconfortable. Actually, sometimes, after the ride, I forget that I'm wearing it and bump it one the door frame of my car when I try to get in with the helmet.

    Anyway, have fun and make it safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenzx
    ...if you don't value your head, than don't!

    I have destroyed 2 helmets, the first when I flew OTB and the bike (the pedal, in fact) smashed the back of the helmet in. Would have been easily the worst place for a nasty piece of metal to slam into - the base of your skull/top of your neck.

    Helmet #2 DOA as I smashed myself, face first, at a race in Snowmass Colorado - as you can see my face got messed up, but my head (which hit the ground first) id fine. That helmet was fully mangled, doing it's job.

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    Not to make light of your situation (I'm sure you can laugh about it now), but the next day when your co-workers asked you what happened... I hope you told them "Bar fight... and if you think I look bad, you oughtta see the other three guys that tried to mess with me..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolver888
    Just lately am having sum not so newbie riders with me doing some downhills and trails. Noticed few of them ride without a helmet on their brain shell. Sum just wear caps, some don't. I asked one why not wear a helmet, he simply replied that "its not that risky" ...... I just answered .... Hmmmm.
    No sense fighting stupidity.

    You only need a helmet if there is something to loose under it.

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    My hubby endo'd on a fairly innocuous piece of singletrack (fast but smooth) and landed clean on the top of his head. He was travelling at about 20mph at the time and the helmet was destroyed. He was shaken but relatively unhurt... after a trip to the chiropractor and a couple of days of aspirin to help with any swelling, he was fine, but it would have been a different story had it not been for the helmet.

    I've always been a proponent of wearing a helmet, even if it's just for a quick trip down the road. At first my hubby just thought I was being over-cautious, but he'll never ride without his now.

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    Only uber cool roadies are allowed to go helmetless :P


    The only one time in my life have I ever landed on my head it was not too good. Was about 4 years ago. I remember I was sitting down on the ground just looking around and saying, gee this is such a beautiful day to be sitting around in the woods... Until I realized, why am I sitting around in the woods? I noticed I was wearing my riding clothes and realized I was actually riding a bike, which I had no idea where it was at. Looked around and found the bike crashed into some bushes a few feet away and took my helmet off to see it cracked in several places and dirt packed into most of the ventilation holes. I had no idea what trail I was in until I started recognizing its features. I still to this day don't remember what happened of for how long I was out cold.
    To all who think that the odds crashing on your head are relatively small, just remember it can only take one fall.

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    It's their right

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolver888
    Just lately am having sum not so newbie riders with me doing some downhills and trails. Noticed few of them ride without a helmet on their brain shell. Sum just wear caps, some don't. I asked one why not wear a helmet, he simply replied that "its not that risky" ...... I just answered .... Hmmmm.
    If they want to ride without wearing a helmet, well, that's their right. It's also your right to say screw you, I'm not riding with you if you're not wearing a helmet. I'm not going to have my ride harshed by some knucklehead I have to babysit and get to the hospital because of their choice to be stupid.

    One night, the group night ride consisted of me, two regulars, and one gal that the regulars brought out. She had no helmet, no gloves, no water and a loaner light. Her first singletrack experience. Frankly I was shocked that Tim (oops, don't want to mention names) would bring her out under the circumstances, but when all this came to light I said forget it, it's a search and rescue outing in the making -- I'm riding alone. The others respected this but when the gal started whining on the first 1/4 mile of climbing, the other guys realized what they were up against and "encouraged" her to turn around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siberian
    Not to make light of your situation (I'm sure you can laugh about it now), but the next day when your co-workers asked you what happened... I hope you told them "Bar fight... and if you think I look bad, you oughtta see the other three guys that tried to mess with me..."
    LOL, no, I took a few days off in a percoset-induced orbit so the swelling was way down, and it didn't look TOO awful by the time I was back in the office!

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    A local guy was riding a mini-bike that has a top speed of 15 mph down a perfectly smooth and flat road about a month ago with no helmet. He is in an automotive shop class at a local college and was test driving it, I assume they were working on it. Shortly after he took off, somebody found him laying in a pool of blood in the middle of the road. He lived, but he has brain damage. They had to remove pieces of his skull to relieve the pressure to his brain. He is currently still in the hospital. His motor skills are all jacked up, he is going to have to take months of physical therapy to learn how to do simple things now, such as feeding himself and writing. Don't ever even think that you are anywhere near safe by not wearing a helmet. Most serious riders can recall at least one instance where a helmet saved them from something like this.

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    Gibby was wrong!

    Quote Originally Posted by glenzx
    It's better to regret something you HAVE done, than something you haven't..." (intro to Sweatloaf)
    -gibby of the butthole surfers
    Is it better to regret having done this [your Snowmass crash], than it would have been to not have done this?

    On the other hand, since you lived, and since you don't regret having gotten your Blur (witness Blur v2.0) Mark Twain was right.

    Ergo, my signature kicks your signature's arse.


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    I've seen a couple of quotes on motorcycle boards that apply directly to this:
    If you think you don't need a helmet, you're probably right.
    The most dangerous part of a bike is the nut that connects the seat to the handlebar.
    My roommate rarely wears his helmet when we go on road rides, which I find interesting because he has been down more than anyone else I ride with..? says he doesn't like sweat pooling up on his forehead. Myself, I always wear the lid. I've met the dirt a few times, but I dont' think my head ever hit hard, but that might be because I had a helmet on!

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    Last Post: 10-28-2012, 03:50 PM
  2. Yet another reason to wear a full face helmet. *video*
    By BudhaGoodha in forum Apparel and Protection
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    Last Post: 05-20-2005, 10:10 PM
  3. wear your helmet
    By SHIVER ME TIMBERS in forum Apparel and Protection
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    Last Post: 12-05-2004, 07:12 PM
  4. what helmet to wear at Whistler MTB park?
    By coiler_casey in forum Apparel and Protection
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    Last Post: 06-11-2004, 07:24 PM
  5. wear your helmet... (how many do wear helmets)
    By Korrupt in forum Apparel and Protection
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    Last Post: 03-21-2004, 04:30 PM

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