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    Waist Up Armor, need some insight

    Ok, so I took a pretty nasty fall off of a skinny and really tore up the side of my face and shoulder. I was wearing a Giro Rift, but thats only a XC Lid, and to be fair its a relatively tame trail, I just picked a really stupid time to hit my brakes. So now I am looking around for more protection seeing as how I am planning to do some more DH and FR. I mainly need three things, two of which I already have. I have 661 Full Comp helmet that I ordered off of chainlove, and I basically am committed to purchasing a Leatt Club Neckbrace once I can get to Iron Pony to try it on. now comes the armor. I am not sure what my budget is, but value is important. I am about 6' and 240lbs, but I am not all that fat. I am not about to say I am all muscle, but my bone structure is just very big, and thats where I am concerned that finding a neck brace and suit of armor would cause problems. I have pretty broad shoulders and a thickish neck. My chest is very thick as well. I usually wear XL t-shirts pretty comfortably, XXL's are loose, but L's tend to fit me pretty tightly. I want something with spine protection(duh) and some chest plates. I probably wouldn't wear the suit for trail riding, so heat/ventilation is not a huge deal. I would like chest plates b/c by far my most frequently occuring nightmare/worst case scenario is that I go down and somehow take a barend to the chest. My #1 priority is fit, and then after that it absolutely has to work well with a Leatt brace. Do any of you guys have some suggestions? I am kind of buying blind here, as there are no FR shops around me that stock armor.
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    Leatt makes a shoulder/roost guard specifically for the neck brace, I believe they link into each other.........however, it doesn't look like it'd offer much protection. I have a lot of armor;

    661 lite roost guard
    661 pressure suit
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    Race Face pressure suit
    Axo pressure suit
    O'neal pressure suit

    I like the Axo best, It's super nice and adjustable.......it has some side rib and frontal clavicle protection that I haven't seen in many others.........in addition the neck is clear of anything that would impede a neck brack that I can tell. I bought it on ebay for a great deal, look up axo under sporting goods and you'll see them.

    I'm 5'11 and 230, so I think our build may be similar and I run an XL comfortably.
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    You should definitely try out the brace and armor at the same time if at all possible. My friend tried wearing his with a 661 pressure suit and had some issues with the spine guard clearing. Maybe try calling Leatt direct to see what they suggest?
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    For the Leatt to work with the spine guard/turtle shell, I think that they recommend that you slip the Leatt in between the actual mesh of the suit (so it doesn't pull the suit against he front of your neck) and the turtle shell. It also helps keep it in place.
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    661 Core Saver with some decent elbow/forearm guards. That would be comfortable for you while still protecting all the right parts.

    I have very broad and thick shoulders and I haven't found a pressure suit with shoulder pads that fits right or is comfortable. The RockGardn Trailstar is very comfortable though but I'm not sure that would offer the kind of protection you're looking for.

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    POC VPD tee. Amazing.

    Lightweight, comfy, and the Visco-Elastomer Polymer dough, while sounding like a marketing gimmick, is amazing and works better than any other i've ever tried, whilst being the most comfortable.

    Can't say enough good things. Blows the 661 stuff out of the water, and the 4 guys i went to the mega with agreed, and they all wear 661 and Dianese.
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    I have a Leatt Club I run with a Giro Remedy and a Core Saver. I wanted to get the POC VPD but the cost is pretty crazy; I splurged on neck protection over core protection. The nice thing about the Core Saver is you can remove the top 3 spine protection pieces to clear the Leatt brace.

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    How much did that helmet cost you on chainlove?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chumba15
    How much did that helmet cost you on chainlove?
    39 and some change. I just want to give a shoutout to chainlove and their awesome customer service too. I accidentally ordered the wrong size, and they are sending the right size out to me ASAP, so that i can pick which one will fit better, then sned the worse back. Thanks for the advice so far guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b4 stealth
    39 and some change. I just want to give a shoutout to chainlove and their awesome customer service too. I accidentally ordered the wrong size, and they are sending the right size out to me ASAP, so that i can pick which one will fit better, then sned the worse back. Thanks for the advice so far guys.
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    I wear a Leatt Brace; a Bell "Drop" helmet; and use the Dianese jacket...I'm not sure what "model"...it has the hard shell shoulders, elbows and the back plate. I put the neck brace on first and the Dianese next...once I zip up the Dianese it snugs the Leatt Brace right up. When you try your Leatt Brace...take your helmet...I believe some restrictions occur with certain helmets. Just a suggestion...if you are able to check out used stuff for an upper armor jacket it could save you lots. I bought my Dianese jacket for $100...they retailed for $600(Cdn.)...it needed some minor sewing...and it was as good as new. Good luck.

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    This is what I wear. A little heavy, but really protects your upper body and head.
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    ^^^Do you ride with that in the rain? LOL.

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    +1 for the 661 core saver with the leatt. I just purchased this combo and it's the best, most comfortable combination i've had. I had the pressure suit and the rock gardn flak jacket previously and both felt far more bulky and restricting. The core saver protects all the right spots and you can remove the top to spine plates for the leatt brace to fit and it works really well. Just had 3 days at whistler with it on all day and it was great.

    also, i'm 6'1" 235, so i'm in the same size category

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    I have a Leatt Club I run with a Giro Remedy and a Core Saver. I wanted to get the POC VPD but the cost is pretty crazy; I splurged on neck protection over core protection. The nice thing about the Core Saver is you can remove the top 3 spine protection pieces to clear the Leatt brace.
    Yeah its pricey but only 25 more than the 661 Pro Suit over here, and absolutely worth that extra!!

    I couple this with my Carbon D2 and 661 leg/shins and arms (not so fussed about them, the large size nearly cut off the blood to my feet!) and feel pretty damn well protected!
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    Does the Core Saver from 661 protect your shoulders? It only looks like it protects your, wel, core and spine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b4 stealth
    Does the Core Saver from 661 protect your shoulders? It only looks like it protects your, wel, core and spine.
    I'm wondering the same thing. I've been checking into it but I don't know anybody who uses it so any insight would be much appreciated!

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    Love my Rock Gardn Flak Jacket. XL Fits great, is semi cool and stays in place. Wear it only on DH, but wear the detachable elbow/arm protection a lot more.

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    anyone use the 661 assault pressure suit? how is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmmBeer
    I'm wondering the same thing. I've been checking into it but I don't know anybody who uses it so any insight would be much appreciated!
    It only has top shoulder protection.

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    I use it now. It protects pretty well and is comfortable but it rides up easily. When I first started riding I had road rash on my lower back / sides from the pressure suit riding up. I find it a little bulky but compared to others it's not bad at all. I'm hoping to find something lighter that protects the spine and has some shoulder protection.

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    The most important thing to think about is how are you going to fall if you fall?

    9 times out of 10, I am sliding out, so I always land on my Elbows/ Forearms. My guards have huge gashes in them and I will never ride or race without them. Also, wearing these allows you to avoid putting out your hands. Keep your hands off the ground and put your crash to your protected elbows! I know because I wasn't wearing them and I broke my wrist! 6 months and a screw later I am here to let you know don't fall on your hands!

    If you go end over end, your gonna roll over rocks with your spine. So you need spine protection.

    If you you get shaken off the bike at high speeds you might go OTB and land on your chest. So a chest plate would be great. Something light and strong.


    Here are some photo examples of gear that you need to fall safely.


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    Chest and Spine Protection in one combo. I would like to have that chest peice, I have the spine protector.

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    Elbow Guards are a must.

    Get those, a LEATT, Knee/Shin Protection, gloves and the 661 Ankle protection and you're COVERED!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmmBeer
    I'm wondering the same thing. I've been checking into it but I don't know anybody who uses it so any insight would be much appreciated!
    I have both. The core saver doesn't really protect your shoulders, but on the plus side you hardly notice its there. The pro pressue suit is a tad more noticdeable and heavy. Although if you happen to find that one of the sizes fits you well, its VERY comfortable. Gives a lot of protection as well. I've switched from the core saver to my pro pressure suit recently (after I dislocated my shoulder with the core saver on). Keep a look out for them on chainlove, they were just up there, and I got mine for $100 bucks. That's below wholesale/employee price i believe.

    Unfortunately 661 gear seems to be designed for the morbidly obese. At 6'7" ~210lbs the large seems to fit me well...except the arms are several inches too short. The back/chest/shoulders fit fairly well, but I can't put my thumbs through the thumb loops. No biggie. I had an XL before and it was unreal how big that thing was, I would've needed to gain at least 50 pounds for that thing to fit me right. It would be nice if they made "tall" versions of all there things (wtf I need SMALL leg armor?!?!?). Same with fox though. I have NO idea who would need the straps that long for their L/XL launch guards. My legs aren't short OR thin by any means, and my calf would have to be AT LEAST 6 inches greater in circumference for those straps to be in a "good" position.

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