It's the shoes!

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  • 05-27-2010
    TwistedCrank
    It's the shoes!
    My Shitmano M182's run out of comfort at about 6 hours. They're fine for anything less. I had a pair of Specialized Experts that I put 12 hours on - those were a tad better. I just have a thing against Specialized...

    Are Sidi Dominators really the shiz? Are they really worth $269 from my LBS? I get squirrelly when the price point tops 200 clams.

    Are they any other options that will keep my little piggies happy for 12 to 24?

    TIA
  • 05-27-2010
    sdcadbiker
    Isn't it odd that we think nothing of dropping $3K+ on a bike but won't pay $250 for shoes? I'm the same and can't bring myself to buy Sidi. I am on my second pair of Sette Epics (stop laughing in the back!), was wary of buying them simply because they are "Sette" but I was pleasantly surprised at how comfortable they are and for how long, so when the first pair got ratty after about 500 rides I bought another pair. $85 at Pricepoint.
  • 05-27-2010
    Logantri
    I had the same problem with the Shimano moldables. Bontrager X-lites nipped it in the bud for me. I love those shoes.
  • 05-27-2010
    12wheels
    Do you have wide feet?
    Your feet swell as you ride and shoes which fit great initially can get too tight on long rides.
  • 05-27-2010
    carlhulit
    nice shoes are the best thing i have ever spend biek money on. that said the quality on the sidi dominators is poor mine basically fell apart after less than 2 seasons, im very pleased with my new specialized expert carbons so far
  • 05-27-2010
    AZ
    Bonty RL's , Sidi Dominator , Sidi Carbon , wearing Shimano's is the same as setting your feet on fire .
  • 05-27-2010
    one1spede
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 12wheels
    Your feet swell as you ride and shoes which fit great initially can get too tight on long rides.

    This is interesting, I find the opposite (though have heard about the swelling issue from others). Or my shoes stretch a bit when warmed up. I use the Spec S-works shoes and find I end up tightening them here and there through the ride. It's not specific to these shoes, as it happens with others as well.

    Too bad the OP has a thing against Specialized, they have some really nice options on the market.
  • 05-27-2010
    cbrock450
    Everybody has different shaped feet so you should take everyone's comments with a grain of salt except for how they hold up to abuse.
    I bought sidi's once and i will never buy them again. They fell apart after a year of use.
    If you ride technical rocky terrain they will get torn up in not time. Took mine to moab and they got tore up really quick.
    I bought top of the line shimano shoes and the sole is starting to delam at the tip of my toe.
    The search continues...


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    My Shitmano M182's run out of comfort at about 6 hours. They're fine for anything less. I had a pair of Specialized Experts that I put 12 hours on - those were a tad better. I just have a thing against Specialized...

    Are Sidi Dominators really the shiz? Are they really worth $269 from my LBS? I get squirrelly when the price point tops 200 clams.

    Are they any other options that will keep my little piggies happy for 12 to 24?

    TIA

  • 05-27-2010
    AZ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 12wheels
    Your feet swell as you ride and shoes which fit great initially can get too tight on long rides.



    Buy your shoes in the afternoon after your feet have swollen .
  • 05-27-2010
    kosmo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS
    Buy your shoes in the afternoon after your feet have swollen .

    No way. Buy your shoes when your feet are cold and small, because every brand of shoe stretches a bit as it breaks in. For me, nothing is worse than a sloppy fitting bike shoe.

    Superfeet insoles in my Shimano shoes seem to work fine for 10 hour races, but I gotta admit that my $100 msrp Specialized shoes feel the best on really long rides. I've switched to them for hundie races.
  • 05-27-2010
    AlliKat
    I did about 7 years on my sidi dominators. The fit was perfect and I can't complain about the durability. I have Shimano shoes now and they are good after some modification but not as good as the sidis.
  • 05-28-2010
    EMFC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS
    Buy your shoes in the afternoon after your feet have swollen .


    Good point, you should do that when you buy any shoes
  • 05-28-2010
    mcmurv
    A few things could be happening. Maybe your feet are swelling and you need to loosen your shoes some. I found this to be the case with my Sidi Dragon 2 SRS Carbons.

    Where do your feet hurt when they start to hurt? You may need some custom orthotics to account for some anatomical challenges you may have, which causes the pain.
  • 05-29-2010
    pagey
    Each to their own - my M182s are great like slippers.
  • 05-31-2010
    johnstoc
    go with what feels good?
    I say put aside your qualms w/ specialized and get the best shoes you can if you're going to hammer in em' for 12 hours, be them Specialized, Sidi, Shimano or whatever. I am likely to pick up some Specialized Pro MTB's to replace my shimano182's in the near future. Obviously to each their own but there but Specialized puts a lot of R/D into their shoes and insoles... I've been impressed and I also used to be against the "big s."
  • 06-01-2010
    golong
    Yea, I have some top of the line Sidi and Im not that impressed. They are fine shoes, look great, fit fine etc etc but I should have spent the money on specialized... My specialized shoes of the past have been a dream to wear.
  • 06-01-2010
    bncrshr77
    I have found that the with the shimanos the balls of my feet are super sore when endurance riding...Almost like the insole was not protecting my feet from the part of the cleat inside the shoe..
  • 06-01-2010
    NurdBoy
    Lake shoes are what I've found comfy enough to go all day and more...My Sidi's suck after 4-6 hrs (hot foot no matter where the cleat is and I have spent a ton of $$$ trying to find insoles to fix it - and my cleats are as far back as possible). I ride the Sidi's for short rides only. So no, the price of Sidi's are not worth it (they feel good initially and that's all IMO).

    Lake MX155 is my perfect shoe and it's priced beyond belief for such comfort. They weigh a tad more than all those glittery-POS-spendy-trendy-so-called-race-shoes, but after 24-hrs on the bike or a hundy on the SS my feet are still very happy, plus I can actually walk/climb over rocky terrain with the Lakes. I'm eyeing a 2nd pair but I'm looking towards the MX156.

    Good luck!
  • 06-01-2010
    ptfmb71
    IMHO
    In 20 years of mountain biking I keep trying to try something other than SIDI....and I keep get disappointed. I have tried Specialized, Shimano, Adidas and recently Bontrager. The little lever on my Bontrager shoes broke the first time I used them in a 56mi race earlier this year...so imagine trying to ride with no top strap (my heel kept moving out of the shoe).

    I will never buy anything other than SIDI's again....they are just great great shoes that are worth the money.
  • 06-01-2010
    mcmurv
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ptfmb71
    IMHO
    In 20 years of mountain biking I keep trying to try something other than SIDI....and I keep get disappointed. I have tried Specialized, Shimano, Adidas and recently Bontrager. The little lever on my Bontrager shoes broke the first time I used them in a 56mi race earlier this year...so imagine trying to ride with no top strap (my heel kept moving out of the shoe).

    I will not every buy anything other than SIDI's again....they are just great great shoes that are worth the money.


    Amen brother!
  • 06-01-2010
    RyderX
    Sidi dominators, worth every penny. I've worn them for years on the road and the dirt. The fit is like a custom shoe, in fact I never wear socks with them. I normally buy them at the end of the season or in the depths of the long cold winter. I try never to pay retail so it makes it a bit more palatable.
  • 06-01-2010
    jradin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bncrshr77
    I have found that the with the shimanos the balls of my feet are super sore when endurance riding...Almost like the insole was not protecting my feet from the part of the cleat inside the shoe..

    +1. My Shimanos are great to about 30 miles, then I get a hot-spot/bruising feeling above the cleat. I'm shopping for a new pair now, but kind of hard to evaluate this characteristic of a shoe in the store. Anyone else able to cure this problem with a particular brand?

    EDIT: Just noticed NURD's post on the Lakes, but don't have a LBS that carries them.
  • 06-01-2010
    RyderX
    Hot spotting is normally the result of cleat position of saddle location. A pro bike fit can usually help.
  • 06-01-2010
    cunnilinux
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    My Shitmano M182's run out of comfort at about 6 hours. They're fine for anything less.

    AFAIK, M182 are racing shoes. so i guess they are just too rigid for long rides.
    as for me, i prefer touring shoes for endurance racing. they are significantly less rigid, but much more comfortable. i have a pair of specialized tahoe fo 3-season use, and a pair of exustar E-SS502 sandals for summer.
  • 06-02-2010
    markw1970
    How about just buy a Specialized footbed for your current shoes...
    http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/health-...ence/1992.html