• 04-20-2004
    Duckman
    Am I crazy for 'lightening' my shoes?
    Ok, I'm aware of light shoes being just as important as anything else that moves, especially since they are where they are(at the outer fulcrum of movement). Having said that, I compared my fairly light Shimano 152s(retail of $129 I think) to my more entry level Sidi Rampa's($99). Since they are 2 strap, lighter construction, etc etc, I figured lets see....

    After taking the steel spike plugs out, and getting alittle bench grinder happy with some middle (less used) lugs front and back, plus the inherent lighter weight of them in the 1st place, I have a combined weight savings between the 2 pairs of 143gms!! Thats almost a 1/3lb. This is just too much to ignore.

    This, with Twin ti Eggs, light Next LPs, light ringwear, plus light as hell wheels, HAS to be an advantage against a 'joe average' setup(said the dude with bad knees and such, so all's fair in love, war, and now...mtb racing:)).

    These are now my dry weather race shoes. Hands down.

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    Duck-maybe he needs to get away from the bench grinder for a spell

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  • 04-20-2004
    mtb_biker
    no comment. do they have a psychological term defines duckman.. :eek:
  • 04-20-2004
    Trevor!
    Duckman,
    You should check out SIDIs higher end shoes, most of them are quite light and much lighter than the shimano counterparts.. Don't quote me on the weights but I think my roadie (Ergo 1) shoes weight around the 550 mark and my MTB shoes around the 600g mark.
  • 04-20-2004
    Duckman
    Are you sure? That seems awful light.

    Hell, the Sidi's I have are 742gms it appears. The S's are 885gms.
  • 04-20-2004
    Duckman
    I show the Dominators at 805gms at WWs.
  • 04-20-2004
    Trevor!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Duckman
    I show the Dominators at 805gms at WWs.

    :d

    Ugh, as I said don't quote me. I must be totally off....... I'll go get the shoes and scales....
  • 04-20-2004
    Trevor!
    Size 45 (10.5US) Sidi Ergo 1 690g pair
    Size 45 (10.5US) Sidi Eagle 4 857g pair (With SPD cleats)


    eh,um I err am going back to elementary school today...
  • 04-20-2004
    carlos
    what about those "custom made" rocket7 shoes? they looks great and are really lightweight.
  • 04-20-2004
    Duckman
    Whew!

    Noooooo..too late...I'm quote'n ya man.:) Just playing of course.

    Just got back from dinner...and of all things, I was worrying about darn shoes sizes all ther while. Ha! My Sidi's are 43s, the S's 44s. Some of those shoes listed at WWs are light as heck. Hmmmmm....
  • 04-20-2004
    Jwiffle
    you could also lose weight from your feet
    by chopping off a couple of the smaller toes on each foot--how necessary are they, really?
  • 04-21-2004
    Andy
    SIDI Dragon SRS
    Can anyone shed some light on how much these weigh? I havent seen these on the shop shelves here in Oz yet, but theyre being hailed as a lighweight XC race shoe. Retail price is around the $560 mark......
    Cheers
  • 04-21-2004
    Trevor!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy
    Can anyone shed some light on how much these weigh? I havent seen these on the shop shelves here in Oz yet, but theyre being hailed as a lighweight XC race shoe. Retail price is around the $560 mark......
    Cheers

    Andy I would say a similar weight to my ERGO 1s road shoes plus a few more grams for the absence for the carbon fiber say 750g to perhaps 770g to take into account the bolts for the SRS system and the grips on the shoes...

    I only wear SIDI on the MTB and also wear their high end roadie shoe Ergo 1 ($700 which is silly but I got em for $350 so thats cool) and can tell you that they are an incredibly comfortable shoe providing fit like no other. I have had two pairs of shimanos and also found them too big, wide and uncomfortable after long rides. The three adjustment straps allow you to get the shoe to fit ones foot spot on. I am yet to find discomfort with either pairs of my shoes. I think I will pick up a pair of the dragons in the near future...

    If your interested in SIDI shoes but don't wish to pay 500 or 700 for their high end mtb or road shoes check out: http://www.totalcycling.com/ in Northern Ireland. Shipping is 20 pounds so you'll get the shoes for around $350AU or so.


    hmm that probably doesn't answer your questions but I hope it helps a little....
  • 04-21-2004
    carlos
    if you want great deals on sid shoes, check out ebay. best prices for sure.
  • 04-21-2004
    TheRedMantra
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwiffle
    by chopping off a couple of the smaller toes on each foot--how necessary are they, really?

    Well, you'd have a hell of a time balancing w/o them.
  • 04-21-2004
    Patchito
    Nike Ligure...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheRedMantra
    Well, you'd have a hell of a time balancing w/o them.


    Built on the same Italian last as the Sidi, which I find fits me best, and has a full carbon sole, which the Sidi doesn't. I found the nylon sole on my Sidis lost their integrity and flex like running shoes now after about a year. The carbon Nike should be lighter too. Problem is, can't find a shop that has them in stock to try them on.
  • 04-21-2004
    Andy
    Thanks...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trevor!
    Andy I would say a similar weight to my ERGO 1s road shoes plus a few more grams for the absence for the carbon fiber say 750g to perhaps 770g to take into account the bolts for the SRS system and the grips on the shoes...

    I only wear SIDI on the MTB and also wear their high end roadie shoe Ergo 1 ($700 which is silly but I got em for $350 so thats cool) and can tell you that they are an incredibly comfortable shoe providing fit like no other. I have had two pairs of shimanos and also found them too big, wide and uncomfortable after long rides. The three adjustment straps allow you to get the shoe to fit ones foot spot on. I am yet to find discomfort with either pairs of my shoes. I think I will pick up a pair of the dragons in the near future...

    If your interested in SIDI shoes but don't wish to pay 500 or 700 for their high end mtb or road shoes check out: http://www.totalcycling.com/ in Northern Ireland. Shipping is 20 pounds so you'll get the shoes for around $350AU or so.


    hmm that probably doesn't answer your questions but I hope it helps a little....

    Thanks for that info Trevor. I`ll be up for a new pair of shoes in a couple of months, so will check out all the possible 'candidates" and then make a decision. The SIDI`s are sounding very good, especially with all the positive comments on their fit.
    Cheers
  • 04-21-2004
    Davide
    Kidney
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheRedMantra
    Well, you'd have a hell of a time balancing w/o them.

    That is why I still think that taking off 1 kidney (not 2, just one) is a better option :eek:
  • 04-22-2004
    AZ-X
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Duckman
    I'm I crazy for 'lightening' my shoes?


    And here I thought that it was really a rhetorical question... :(

    The addiction has now spread to all regions of the brain... :D

    Actually, I think that in MTB racing and Cyclocross--where the probability of having to get off your bike and run with it at some point is high--your attempts are valid. I ain't saying that you're not a weight crazed freak (and that's somthing coming from a fellow weight weenie), I'm just stating that your attempt is valid. ;)

    By the way, my Specialized Body Geometry Comp shoes weigh 776g in size 42 with my Eggbeater cleats installed. Don't ask me how I know that --- I just do... :rolleyes: ;)
  • 04-22-2004
    Duckman
    LOL!

    You just reminded me that my weights do indeed include the Eggs cleats already installed as well. I must be slipping.

    And so it goes....
  • 04-22-2004
    tracker
    You cant go wrong with them
    I use the denominator ones I think. Two straps and a buckle.
    They fit perfect and feel much lighter and cooler on my feet than my specialized shoes.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy
    Thanks for that info Trevor. I`ll be up for a new pair of shoes in a couple of months, so will check out all the possible 'candidates" and then make a decision. The SIDI`s are sounding very good, especially with all the positive comments on their fit.
    Cheers

  • 04-22-2004
    eurorider
    I wasn't planning on getting my wisdom teeth removed but I figure there's some good weight savings to be had there :D
  • 04-23-2004
    SSBonty
    whats next?
    Tonsils? Appendix? Any other non-neccesarry bits and bobs we carry around as extra weight? ;-)

    Ian
  • 04-23-2004
    Duckman
    No, I've already had those taken out.

    :)
  • 04-23-2004
    jimjo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Duckman
    No, I've already had those taken out.

    :)


    all of you have ignored the obvious...why are you wearing shoes that fit??? start buying shoes that are 2-3 three sizes too small....they have to weigh less ....it will be like trying to squeeze into a pair of climbing shoes!!!