Helmet vs Headtube view

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  • 05-21-2007
    Upchuck
    Helmet vs Headtube view
    What's your opinion on the mounting position of the camera?
    Disregard the second title in the video "fork mount". It was actually mounted to the headtube.
    Click here to watch the video.
  • 05-21-2007
    Evil Patrick
    Helmet is the rider's POV.

    Headtube is a cool, special effect.

    Use both.
  • 05-22-2007
    trail bait
    is it easier to set up, i hate pulling my helmet on and off with it
  • 05-22-2007
    mtb777
    I like the headtube view as you can see the suspension working and the terrain is way more in focus than the usual headcam video. It a cool perspective on those trails. you can see the line choice instead of the usual blurrrrrrr.

    What were the trails that were ridden in the video? Nice!:thumbsup:
  • 05-22-2007
    mrm1
    They are both equally nice in different ways. The helmet cam seems to give a little more over all perspective of the surroundings, but (as noted) the head tube cam gives a cleaner view of the line and trail ahead.

    What is the set up / equiptment used? Got any pics of the attachment to the Head Tube? or is this a "trade" secret? :)
  • 05-22-2007
    DRTRIDR
    I say you use both methods. Man, if I had to choose one- I would go with the fork mount!
  • 05-23-2007
    Upchuck
    I prefer it on the frame. It is easier to deal with since there aren't any wires attached to you. I use a solid state digital recording device stored in a large Specialized seatpack. I run the wires along the toptube to the camera and attach my wired remote within easy reach on my handlebars.
  • 05-23-2007
    Upchuck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtb777
    I like the headtube view as you can see the suspension working and the terrain is way more in focus than the usual headcam video. It a cool perspective on those trails. you can see the line choice instead of the usual blurrrrrrr.

    What were the trails that were ridden in the video? Nice!:thumbsup:

    The trails were Chilao in the first segment and Red Box to Switzer campgrounds in the second segment.

    They're both located in the Angeles Forest in Southern California above Pasadena.
  • 05-23-2007
    [CrazyRick_11]
    I like both but the helmet cam is a more realistic view. It's what I would see if I were riding there and I like that.
  • 05-23-2007
    Upchuck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mrm1
    They are both equally nice in different ways. The helmet cam seems to give a little more over all perspective of the surroundings, but (as noted) the head tube cam gives a cleaner view of the line and trail ahead.

    What is the set up / equiptment used? Got any pics of the attachment to the Head Tube? or is this a "trade" secret? :)

    The recorder is made by Chase Cam. It records to high speed Flash Cards. A bit pricey, but still less than a good DV tape recorder, about the same size and a heck of a lot more durable. They're used in race cars, military ops, etc. It's amazing the amount of impact they can take and won't skip a beat with recording.

    The helmet cam is a Viosport Adventure Cam 3 w/ 520 lines res. The remote control is a LANC remote I purchased off the Viosport website.

    No secret with mounting the camera. Sometimes I use a basic mount and strap it to the headtube. Another great mount is the Ultra Clamp by Viosport. Check them out.







  • 05-24-2007
    Sisco_28601
    I like the head tube mount better personally; the helmet mount videos typically shake too much.

    It would be cool to do some rear-facing shots. Mounting the camera to the side of the top tube under the seat for instance. It would be even cooler if you could mount that lower (non-drive side on the chain stay for instance), but then I'd imagine it would get more risky for the camera.
  • 05-24-2007
    Upchuck
    I have some rear facing footage taken from under the seat using the Ultra Mount. I'll post it up with a link...
  • 05-24-2007
    DRTRIDR
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Upchuck
    I have some rear facing footage taken from under the seat using the Ultra Mount. I'll post it up with a link...

    Post it......:thumbsup:
  • 05-24-2007
    [CrazyRick_11]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Upchuck
    I have some rear facing footage taken from under the seat using the Ultra Mount. I'll post it up with a link...

    Post it NOW...haha j/k:thumbsup:
  • 05-24-2007
    Upchuck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by [CrazyRick_11]
    Post it NOW...haha j/k:thumbsup:

    Unfortunately the footage is on computer at home. At the moment, I'd rather be editing footage than doing paperwork.
  • 05-24-2007
    Sisco_28601
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Upchuck
    At the moment, I'd rather be editing footage than doing paperwork.

    You're not doing paperwork, you're browsing message boards - oh wait... I am too! :eek: :headphones:
  • 05-24-2007
    Upchuck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sisco_28601
    You're not doing paperwork, you're browsing message boards - oh wait... I am too! :eek: :headphones:

    Guilty as charged. Actually, my email alerts me to new responses on the board...so it's not really my fault.:p
  • 05-24-2007
    rage
    I prefer the helmet mount, makes me feel like i'm asleep and dreaming :D
  • 05-29-2007
    Upchuck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by [CrazyRick_11]
    Post it NOW...haha j/k:thumbsup:

    Here's the video comparing helmet POV and underseat POV.
  • 05-29-2007
    [CrazyRick_11]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Upchuck
    Here's the video comparing helmet POV and underseat POV.

    the facing backwards under seat POV is really different . I sort of like it. I suppose it's great if the person behind you wants to be filmed.