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    New question here. A Dad Needing Help - Helmet for Bleeding Disorder - Toddler

    Hello all,

    Please forgive me if this has been covered in another thread and I missed it.

    As the title states Im a dad needing help. I dont ride often and my daughter who is about to 4 will start the learning process soon.


    My daughter has a 1 in million blood disorder called Glanzmann's thrombasthenia (GT). Basically what this means it that her blood doesn't clot. Unlike hemophilia we do not infuse so any hit to the head is an ER visit, any cut (even a small one) is a 911 call, in short, she cant afford a face plant as stitches would be a week in the hospital.


    She is getting a Stryder balance bike for Christmas. Her head is 48/49cm and I cant seem to find the right guarded helmet for her.


    Any help would be appreciated.


    All the best,

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    WOW! What an unfortunate and challenging condition. It sounds like just being "a growing kid" will be an incredible challenge for you as a parent, as well the risk to her health. I've got "nothing" helpful in regards to a helmet suggestion, especially given at her young age and physical size. I don't know that I've ever seen a full face type helmet in that range but you might check into Bell's Super 2R or newer 3R and check their size offerings. It must be hard for you to not just have her ensconced in huge roll of Bubble Wrap! I'd be beside myself with worry. Best of luck.

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    I have never seen a full face helmet but to be honest go to a bike shop and look at their kids helmets. I got a bontrager one because it protects my son's head better than any helmet I have for myself.

    On a strider face plants are highly unlikely. My 3 yr old has been on his strider for about a year now not even a scrape and we live on a hill.

    If you keep to flat ground that's clear of rocks and such, I would think a good kids helmet that has full coverage except for face will do quite well.

    And in all my searching for a good helmet for him (he's my kid, clumsy) I didn't see anything full faced for a child that size. They may exist but not going to be easy to find that small.

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    This may or may not be helpful but will offer an idea. Get one of those light weight full face helmets with the thin chin bars. Then add some material (perhaps cut foam strips from a cheapo kids helmet) and add it until is fits her head. I doubt there is a quality full face helmet in that size. Good luck.
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    Thank you all for the suggestions I certainly will head to the local bike specialist store Monday to talk to them.

    A FF helmet is certainly what Im looking for her to use. While a traditional bike helmet may work, I cant risk it. She takes after her dad in that she wants to jump from everything, challenge herself physically, and is just an adrenaline fueled little kid. She's goin to want to be that way on the Stryder as well.

    One Im looking at is the THE Industries T3 youth helmet. I believe the youth large would fit though I cant find the weight on it. One thing that is important is that she likes it so it wont be a battle to get her to wear it. Her strong will also is inherented.

    I might even go a little larger and stuff it a bit as suggested so she can grow into it.

    I do appreciate the responses. Thank you again.

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    Try a Demon Podium: 2017 Demon Podium Full Face Helmet
    XS says it will fit, plus the reviews on Amazon say it's a tiny bit small.

    Or if you're not cool with your daughter wearing a helmet that says "demon" on the side lol, try the Bell Sanction: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KP7J97W...92E&th=1&psc=1
    If you look at the reviews, they all say this runs a size too small, and many reviews of people buying them for their kids and them fitting. Could just take a chance and return it if it doesn't fit.

    But really, I'd be more worried about protection everywhere else. Hands, elbows, knees, though I'm sure you already have that covered. Good luck, it's unfortunate for her and you, but hopefully you can find something so she can still enjoy herself, and you not have a nervous breakdown every time she gets on two wheels.

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    Thanks again formthe insight and suggestions.

    She only weighs 30lbs. Will a helmet over 2lbs (almost a tenth of weight) be to heavy and pose a risk to neck injury?

    The Bell Sanction comes in at 2.04 lbs. The Demon I think was 2.5 as the THE T3 is as well.

    There are other lighter helmets out that are under a pound but the smallest I have found starts at 52cms. It seems I will have to choose between weight and fit. Would you all risk a larger helmet by 5 to 6 cm or a heavier one by at least a pound and a half?

    Thanks again for the help?

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    If it was me or any adult, the fit is definitely more important. For a child, I don't really know. 5-6cms is a lot, and that may be enough to cause more damage than it's worth. But then I'm not sure she'd be able to really control it. But then again, they make motorcycle helmets that have to be heavier for children. If you're really worried about it, you could always get her a HANS device or some sort of head/neck restraint until she built up her neck muscles a little.

    I know I basically said I have no idea (and take this with a grain of salt, I'm by no means an expert), but if I had to choose, I'd go with fit over an extra half pound at the most.

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    You should have no problem finding a full face helmet to fit her. BMX full face helmet companies cater for 2 year old mini wheelers. Some good quality, lower cost companies to look at are Kali, Fly and THH. Here are some Fly examples:
    Fly Racing 2016 Kinetic Fullspeed Helmet Pink/Black/White at J&R Bicycles
    Fly Racing Kinetic Impulse Helmet-Pink/Black/White at J&R Bicycles
    If she is not a "pink" girl the fly helmets come in lots of colours.
    The Bell Super helmets may fit depending on the shape of her head - I have found them to be a small fit so while the size S does not technically go that small I would find one to try on if possible.

    My other suggestions would be full finger gloves and some knee and elbow pads.

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    Oh and I would not go larger and let her grow into it - get one that fits her and she likes it. I have seen lots of kids wear the full face helmets (my son started wearing one at 2) and never heard one complain about how much they weigh - kids heads are heavy to start with and their neck muscles are strong. They do need to fit properly though - if they move around its very uncomfortable and they wont be able to move properly as they are too busy feeling like they need to balance the helmet on their head.

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    Just wondering if you carry around a clotting sponge (or if it even works for her). I carry one in my first aid kit on long rides.
    https://www.amazon.com/QuikClot-Adva...0HJTH22E/?th=1

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    The Families and Riding With Kids subforum has lots of good suggestions for FF helmets for kids, there is even a current thread on page 1 of that forum. They also have threads in there re: elbow and knee pads, and gloves, which I suspect you should also be looking into, as suggested above.

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    Best looking at BMX stuff, as mentioned, or moto stuff.

    Youth small of these are 48cm, for example:

    O'Neal 2017 Youth 3 Series Helmet - Radium | MotoSport
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    My daughter uses the stryder bike. Get her some gloves, the most common thing that happens is she falls off, falls down and scrapes her hands.

    Also, go over the bike with your hand, ours had a few small sharp edges (cheap metal manufacturing) that I got rid of with a file easily.

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    Thank you for the links. My only concern with these is how hot they would become during the Summer. It seems most of these kids may wear them for the race but Im not sure if they would wear these for a year round helmet riding around the neighborhood. Certainly worth a look though. Thank you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mentor View Post
    The Families and Riding With Kids subforum has lots of good suggestions for FF helmets for kids, there is even a current thread on page 1 of that forum. They also have threads in there re: elbow and knee pads, and gloves, which I suspect you should also be looking into, as suggested above.
    Thank you for the heads up. We have these covered, I believe, but will certainly read the suggested thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertride View Post
    Just wondering if you carry around a clotting sponge (or if it even works for her). I carry one in my first aid kit on long rides.
    https://www.amazon.com/QuikClot-Adva...0HJTH22E/?th=1
    We have to carry 24/7 two types of meds. One for soft tissue bleeds and another for more severe bleeds. Unfortunately, we are just now being allowed to self infuse but it is still safer to immediately head to the ER for the slightest cut that bleeds. We carry Fibrillarwhich is another clotting agent. The pack we use carries additional 1st gear as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by dompedro3 View Post
    My daughter uses the stryder bike. Get her some gloves, the most common thing that happens is she falls off, falls down and scrapes her hands.

    Also, go over the bike with your hand, ours had a few small sharp edges (cheap metal manufacturing) that I got rid of with a file easily.
    Great suggestion that I had nt thought of, thank you.

    Sorry for delay repsonding. It has been a crazy week at work. I managed to take her by the local pro shop and had her head measured. Turns out she is a 50cm. I really looked into the Met Parachute as it starts out at 51cm. I contacted them but unfortunately it is not allowed to sell here in the USA bc/ of standards not met. I ordered a Bell Super 3r just to see how it fit. If it doesn't work I'll try a heavier one.


    Thank all who have taken the time to help.

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    [QUOTE=GTDad;12958530]Thank you for the links. My only concern with these is how hot they would become during the Summer. It seems most of these kids may wear them for the race but Im not sure if they would wear these for a year round helmet riding around the neighborhood. Certainly worth a look though. Thank you.

    The downhill/BMX helmets are certainly warmer than the Super 2R and MET Parachute but you will be surprised how the kids tolerate them - I have seen lots of kids do 2 hour sessions both on the track and in the bush in hot summer conditions without complaint - just keep the water up to them.

    If the super 2R fits I would go with that - my son has one for cross country bush riding. The Met Parachute is a much larger fit - the thick cheek pads in the medium (smallest size sold in Australia) do not even come close to touching the cheeks of my big headed 7 year old who fits a medium Bell super 2R in the middle of the dial setting.

    If the Bell super 2R does not fit then I would not hesitate to try out the Fly helmets or another of the youth sized full faces. My son wears Giro full face helmets and I am very happy with their weight, air flow and protectiveness (they are for sale on CRC at the moment) - they have excellent cooling for a full face helmet and they make a XS.

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    If you are struggling to find one, I would also suggest looking more into the youth motocross side of things. They are all full face full coverage helmets specifically sized for kids.

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