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  • 03-03-2004
    Nim
    Another Lycra Question
    Is there a real noticeble difference between the $35, $65, and $90+ price range lycra shorts? Is eight panel the way to go or six. Any recommendations for which brand lycras to go with?

    Thanks
  • 03-03-2004
    Debaser
    i havn't seen much difference in immediate fit - but down the road the cheap ones really start to show their wear, where pearls (the only expensive short i've bought) last a really long time. Also, chamois's have a big difference in quality, my preference are the blue chamoised pearl shorts.
  • 03-03-2004
    SSteel
    The more panels the better the fit. 6 Panel is ok, 8 panel is great and 10 is awesome.
    Also the material changes as the price increases. Lycra is a generic term like Kleenex. The various chamois materials also change dramatically, as does the moisture absorbing qualities.
    On the other hand, spending more than about $60-70 USD seems excessive to me, unless you have a very tender bottom... ;)
  • 03-03-2004
    damion
    I never thought there was, until...
    I was using nothing but PI shorts, and loving them. I was looking into buying some new bib knickers, so I ended up finding an ok deal an Castelli. I also now have a set of Giordana bib shorts that I like quite a bit. Now,.I will never go back to the cheap camois ever again. Now I know the difference. The only people that will say there is not a difference are those that have NEVER tried the pro setup. For rides around 1 hr, do not bother. If you are spending hours a day in the saddle, do not hesitate. Between the two, I prefer the Giordana chamois, but the Castelli fit overall.

    These things are so comfy, I can not believe it.
  • 03-03-2004
    wooglin-at-home
    velowear.com. On a cost vs. quality scale its a no brainer.
  • 03-03-2004
    ignazjr
    Black Shorts - more than you want to know
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nim
    Is there a real noticeble difference between the $35, $65, and $90+ price range lycra shorts? Is eight panel the way to go or six. Any recommendations for which brand lycras to go with?

    Thanks

    Yes - there is a huge noticeable difference in shorts along the price range. Here's why:

    Most black shorts are some sort of nylon/lycra blend but not all are created equal. Cheaper shorts are generally more opaque (stretchy & see thru) so watch out for that. Same with some of the pricier Euro shorts. Also, watch for moisture management properties of the material. Some, like Pearl Izumi's Ultrasensor and Microsensor fabrics, are constructed to pass moisture thru to the outside where it will dry quicker. Dry = comfortable. Dry Fit stuff works pretty well, too, but Dry Fit is not constructed, it's a coating. Dry Fit will wash out in about 30 washes. Basic shorts get wet and stay wet. Not good if you live in a really humid climate or if you sweat a lot.

    Generally, more panels = more comfortable, but don't base everything on that. A 6 panel short that has flatlock stitching will generally fit better than an 8 panel short with a gathered seam. Flatlock stitching allows the garment to move with the skin better and avoids the under the fabric bunching that gathered seams cause. Also, a contoured & shaped 4 panel short could fit better than a traditional 6 panel.

    Pricier shorts generally get pricier chamois, too. I've ridden in some cheap chamois and you can certainly tell a difference. When it comes to black shorts, you get what you pay for. If you spend a lot of time in the saddle, expect to pay more that $50. You'll thank yourself for it.

    Feel free to ask if you need more info.
  • 03-04-2004
    moab63
    I asked the same question last year
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nim
    Is there a real noticeble difference between the $35, $65, and $90+ price range lycra shorts? Is eight panel the way to go or six. Any recommendations for which brand lycras to go with?

    Thanks

    I can tell you that the difference is big, Im up to 75.00 dollars and they get better each time specially after 2 or 3 hours of riding/racing. Im springing for the 100+ soon maybe a bib ones, catelli or a like. By the way the performance 50.00 dollars 8 panel ones are really good, I did have a little fraying problem and they gave me a new pair. Im very happy with that short. :)
  • 03-04-2004
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wooglin-at-home
    velowear.com. On a cost vs. quality scale its a no brainer.

    I second the Velowear/Voler shorts. Very comfortable, long wearing and a great price. Wide choice of colors and styles, too.
  • 03-04-2004
    linerider
    I don't wear the high end...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by moab63
    I can tell you that the difference is big, Im up to 75.00 dollars and they get better each time specially after 2 or 3 hours of riding/racing. Im springing for the 100+ soon maybe a bib ones, catelli or a like. By the way the performance 50.00 dollars 8 panel ones are really good, I did have a little fraying problem and they gave me a new pair. Im very happy with that short. :)

    ...ones so I am guilty of what a previous poster mentions....people who say there is no diff. have never used the higher priced ones.

    On the other hand I agree with MOAB63. The Performance Century Gel 8 panel (not sure if MOAB^# refered to the Gels) are very confortable and have lastest two years with some light fraying...then again I'm sure I've fallen on my side before, where the fraying is located.
    Great value at $29.99 on sale price.
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Another lycra answer
    and although it is the same one I always give, this is a new question, so I'll give it again.


    DON'T WEAR IT!! It's gay and no one wants to be around some dude with their package protruding noticably out of the front of the f a g wear :mad:
  • 03-05-2004
    Drewdane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    and although it is the same one I always give, this is a new question, so I'll give it again.


    DON'T WEAR IT!! It's gay and no one wants to be around some dude with their package protruding noticably out of the front of the f a g wear :mad:

    Grow up. Really.
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
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    K, since ya'll like it so much. Here's ya a pic to look at, don't worry, I'm sure you can resize it for your desktop wallpaper :rolleyes:
  • 03-05-2004
    VaughnA
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    and although it is the same one I always give, this is a new question, so I'll give it again.


    DON'T WEAR IT!! It's gay and no one wants to be around some dude with their package protruding noticably out of the front of the f a g wear :mad:

    It's only gay if you notice them (Like you!) Wearing is not a problem.....
  • 03-05-2004
    Drewdane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    K, since ya'll like it so much. Here's ya a pic to look at, don't worry, I'm sure you can resize it for your desktop wallpaper :rolleyes:

    Did your mother give you permission to post her prom photo? Just wondering...
  • 03-05-2004
    Locoman
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    Some psychologists...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    K, since ya'll like it so much. Here's ya a pic to look at, don't worry, I'm sure you can resize it for your desktop wallpaper :rolleyes:

    Some psychologists will say that homophobia stems from one's own guilt for having homosexual thoughts or feelings. I guess if this Lycra thing has you all uptight then you might want to think about why this is the case. Or you can get back in the closet (and shut the door).
  • 03-05-2004
    moab63
    So thats the reason you go on sunday rides
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    and although it is the same one I always give, this is a new question, so I'll give it again.


    DON'T WEAR IT!! It's gay and no one wants to be around some dude with their package protruding noticably out of the front of the f a g wear :mad:

    to check guys in lycra. If you are man enough yoou can wear anything even PINK :p
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drewdane
    Did your mother give you permission to post her prom photo? Just wondering...

    Prom?? No, No, No. It's the cover for the new PORN movie that she/he's in. You know, the new cornhole/feltching movie with your grandma :rolleyes:
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Locoman
    Some psychologists will say that homophobia stems from one's own guilt for having homosexual thoughts or feelings. I guess if this Lycra thing has you all uptight then you might want to think about why this is the case. Or you can get back in the closet (and shut the door).

    I should think about it? C'mon now, I'm not the one that goes on "group rides" with other dudes to get back in the woods so you're hidden and have a big gang swordfight. I say it cuz I don't appreciate going thru the woods and being exposed to said "swordfight" [email protected] people!
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VaughnA
    It's only gay if you notice them (Like you!) Wearing is not a problem.....

    BZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT!! Wrong answer.

    How in phuck do you not notice some dude walking around looking like a phucking compass? Wearing them IS the problem
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by moab63
    to check guys in lycra. If you are man enough yoou can wear anything even PINK :p

    Yeah. You go ahead and rock the pink lycra there "man". :eek:
  • 03-05-2004
    BeatVibe1
    Duuude, Chill Man!
    You're hilarious!
  • 03-05-2004
    Drewdane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    Prom?? No, No, No. It's the cover for the new PORN movie that she/he's in. You know, the new cornhole/feltching movie with your grandma :rolleyes:

    WHAT?!? Grandma came out of retirement? ;)
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drewdane
    WHAT?!? Grandma came out of retirement? ;)

    Yeah man, she's going on a reunion tour with Kool and the Gang and the Gong Show. Should be a smokin set :)
  • 03-05-2004
    Locoman
    Nope..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    BZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT!! Wrong answer.

    How in phuck do you not notice some dude walking around looking like a phucking compass? Wearing them IS the problem

    You paying way to much attention to the packages. Your eyes need not go there (unless you can't help yourself). Same dilly as using a urinal. Do you have a problem where you look there too? Same situation.
  • 03-05-2004
    Locoman
    Damn..

    You go from anti lycra to fear of riding w/ other males. I go back to my original point, what are you afraid of? Lycra and group rides equate to gayity?

    Maybe you're right. That confirms my suspicion that all triatheletes are gay. Those gay ironmen. Not to mention Lance Armstrong, what a ***! And what's the deal w/ all those scuba guys...with their tight fitting suits? They must be gay..
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Locoman
    You paying way to much attention to the packages. Your eyes need not go there (unless you can't help yourself). Same dilly as using a urinal. Do you have a problem where you look there too? Same situation.

    nope, only pee in stalls, don't need other dudes checkin my junk

    and as for paying too much attention, when something is SO WRONG, where do your eyes go? Example; someone has a big greasy boog flappin in the wind on the outside of their nostril, does that not draw attention? Why? Because it shouldn't be in view of the public. Ever. Same thing with lycra. And I'll say it again. NEVER should it be in view.
  • 03-05-2004
    Nate N
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Locoman
    Damn..

    You go from anti lycra to fear of riding w/ other males. I go back to my original point, what are you afraid of? Lycra and group rides equate to gayity?

    Maybe you're right. That confirms my suspicion that all triatheletes are gay. Those gay ironmen. Not to mention Lance Armstrong, what a ***! And what's the deal w/ all those scuba guys...with their tight fitting suits? They must be gay..

    Fear of other males? No. Fear of them in lycra? Yes.

    A question if I may. Where in the hell did the practice of wearing that schit come from? And why in phuck would any dude want to? Especially around other dudes. That question just BEGS to be answered. Although I'll only get a skewed view of it on here I'm sure, because, well, it seems that you all do it. And that just goes against all that is "dudely".
  • 03-05-2004
    jci
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nate N
    And I'll say it again. NEVER should it be in view.

    Puritan.

    adj : morally rigorous and strict; "blue laws"; "the puritan work ethic"; "puritanic distaste for alcohol"; "she was anything but puritanical in her behavior" [syn: blue(a), puritanic, puritanical] n 1: adheres to strict religious principles; opposed to sensual pleasures 2: a person excessively concerned about propriety and decorum [syn: prude ]
  • 03-05-2004
    Bikinfoolferlife
    You gets what you pay for...
    I've worn just about everything out there, lycra and baggy. While I don't always like to wear lycra on the trail, it's mostly about damage control as lycra doesn't do too well when you crash; those nylon shells on baggies do work better in that department. I would never wear a baggy on a road ride, they just don't perform as well.

    In the last year I found a couple of good sales on some Assos bibshorts and knickers (they pretty much started the lycra bike short thing), which I always wanted to try but thought the price ridiculous. I don't anymore; the quality of fit, construction and especially chamois is awesome. I'd say Castelli and Pearl Izumi are also very good but not quite as good. Generally you want to look for flat stitching and more panels but the quality of the chamois is the more important factor to me now; lower end lycra usually has the least comfortable chamois (that's why they're cheap).

    Don't let Nate's kind influence you; he probably hasn't put enough time in the saddle to know the difference (and remember Mario Cipollini can wear bleeding pink lycra and get more women in a day than Nate in a year; advertising works).