• 05-08-2010
    nepanite
    5.10 shoes for women - Karvers (mt bike specific) vs. Canyoneers? Some ?
    Does anyone have first hand experience with the Karvers and/or the Canyoneers? My gf is leaning towards the Karvers because they appear to me mt bike specific. However, the canyoneers appear to provide more ankle protection (being a high top) and are a latch type vs. laces for the Karvers. These shoes are being purchased for mountain bike use with Transition brand platform DH pedals with pins. Currently, we both hiking boots which have actually worked ok but we have heard great things about the 5.10 soles. Any thoughts? Thanks,
  • 05-08-2010
    TheotherH
    I have the 510 Impact Carvers and LOVE them! They fit and feel great (even after wearing them all day) and have super sticky soles for flat pedals. I also like the cushy, higher top so that my ankles are protected. Another big plus for me was the availability of smaller sizes (I wear 5.5 or 6 depending on the shoe). I would give them serious consideration.
  • 05-09-2010
    connie
    I've never heard of anyone riding in Five Tens other than the bike specific models. I would suspect that the soles on shoes for other purposes would not be as stiff, and that stiffness really helps with both pedaling efficiency and keeping your feet from getting tired. You could try it, but I own the Karvers and can't think of anything I would improve on them. And personally, I think the Karvers have plenty of ankle protection while still allowing your ankles to move, so it works really well for me. They do make other mountain bike specific shoes with a full high top if that's what you're looking for. And the fit isn't all that different between the mens and women's specific models. I have both the Karvers and the Impacts and the fit is pretty close.
  • 05-10-2010
    chuky
    I own Canyoneers that I use for canyoneering. They are NOT appropriate for bikes. very heavy, lots of neoprene, super hot if you aren't in water and a fit that is designed to work with neoprene socks and other bulky items. These would be the wrong shoes for bike, stick to the bike models, unless you plan to take up canyoneering. I do have some 5.10 bikes shoes that I love. They are really good.

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3520227663/" title="Splashdown? by hukee, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3577/3520227663_25c70372d9_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="Splashdown?" /></a>
  • 05-11-2010
    GunMetalGirl
    I have had the high top Impact shoes for 2 years and am buying some new ones this year. After injuring my ankle badly last year, I will definitely be buying the high tops again. I would love to get the karvers, but they don't have enough protection for me. They are more padded on the inside ankle, but this is protection from the drivetrain/frame, not for real additional ankle support. They prevent dirt and little sticks from getting down in your shoe as well. I guess it depends on what is most important to you, but after hiking boots these things will be incredible!
  • 05-19-2010
    wixle
    One note on 5.10 biking shoes - I have the 5.10 impact shoes and azonic peddles. The shoes are really sticky and the peddles have pretty aggressive screws that really grab the shoes (and hole-punch bare shins!). I think this combination might be overkill, since I have a difficult time making little adjustments on the fly - I have to lift my shoe all the way off the peddle for even an adjustment in the placement angle, etc. I think it would work just as well or better to buy some skate shoes and aggresive peddles. Added benefit: lots of cute skate shoes to choose from! Just be sure the sole is flat.
  • 06-09-2010
    lawndart
    how true do the sizes run for the Carvers? Make a nice present for my GF since she's spooked by clipless.
  • 06-10-2010
    connie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lawndart
    how true do the sizes run for the Carvers? Make a nice present for my GF since she's spooked by clipless.

    I usually wear a 10, but got a 9.5 in the Karvers.
  • 06-10-2010
    mtbxplorer
    More info on 5.10 hightops for biking...I got this from fiveten on the difference between the Impact High & Desert Enforcer High, which are both listed in their Freeride products:

    "The Impact and the Desert Enforcer are going to be the same as far as the last and stiffness in the sole. But their is a few differences between the two shoes. The Impact has our S1 rubber while the Desert Enforcer has our Phantom rubber. The two rubbers have the same amount of friction when dry but the Phantom is a little more frictioned when in wet conditions. The S1 rubber is a more shock absorbing rubber and has more durability. Also the Impact has slightly more padding and cushioning around the tongue and inside of the ankle. Just a couple of things to think about. Hope that was of some help to you. Let me know if you have any other questions and I can help you out. Thanks!!"

    5.10 Customer Service
  • 06-11-2010
    wixle
    Great info! I do find it odd that they chose the rubber that stickier in wet conditions for the desert enforcers. What's in a name?
  • 06-11-2010
    connie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wixle
    Great info! I do find it odd that they chose the rubber that stickier in wet conditions for the desert enforcers. What's in a name?

    Yeah, but look at where Chuky is canyoneering... :thumbsup: I think they figure water is a given if you're canyoneering - and around here anyway the common places to go are in the desert, so it actually makes sense.
  • 06-11-2010
    chuky
    Funny, I was going to say that I have 3 pair of shoes with water specific soles, all of which I ONLY seem to use in the desert. Also seems to be the only place I ever wear my wetsuit (OMG, you should see the confused looks on the faces of the National Park visitors as we walk down the road, it is hilarious. I am in at least 1000 vacation videos).

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3970796602/" title="IB09_26 by hukee, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3970796602_a0a5120b16_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="IB09_26" /></a>
  • 06-13-2010
    wixle
    Ahh... makes sense! By the way, the canyoneering you're doing looks awesome, chuky! Is that in Zion National Park?
  • 06-13-2010
    chuky
    Those pics are in Pine Creek and Mystery Canyons in Zion - Zion is to canyoneering what Whistler is to mountain bikes. There are great spots all over Utah, though. For Utah folks, the canyons are really nice thing to do in the desert when bikes would just be too brutally hot.