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    My AM build for 11'

    The plan goes something like this... Build a bike over the winter, for AM/some FR stuff next summer... Of course thats just the "plan" and they tend to change a bit over time.

    BUT, I have started to move in that direction! I'm starting with a somewhat cheap AM ::Frame::


    It got here today (7-12-10) so I thought id get this thread going, and I can add to it over time as the mailman brings me more and more goodies.

    So far whats on its way:

    Frame: Sette Flite
    Pedals: Nuke Proof Protons
    Seat: Nuke Proof Plasma

    And thats all ladies and gentlemen for the first post! lol. I'm in the market for a 160mm fork next and the rest of the parts will be ordered as I have the money/find good deals used or new. Ill update with actual build pictures once theres something fun to see

    P.S. Suggestions are very welcome, and so is constructive criticism, but please keep the flaming to a minimum this is my first MTB build-up
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    not an issue but why is your shock flipped?

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    Dunno.. Thats how it came out of the box. Does it matter performance wise? I'll flip it regardless... but just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Dunno.. Thats how it came out of the box. Does it matter performance wise? I'll flip it regardless... but just curious.
    performance wise i dont think it matters but having it flipped like that you are a little more likely to gunk up the seals (due to gravity).

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    Sette does this IIRC because the linkage at the top can make getting at the shock adjustments kind of hard. The linkage has different holes for differing amounts of travel and on specific ones the shock adjustments can interfere with the linkage.

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    I know the Flite is really a big, burly frame, but that tree makes it look like a kiddy bike!
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    It doesnt affect performance. I know on some bikes they have it a certain way because it simply won't fit the other way. It may have some clearance issues with the fulcrum (yes, I just said fulcrum), the place that the suspension link is connected to the frame.
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    Performance is the same for both shock orientations.

    It's flipped so the frame does not snap the swivel air valve. Flip it so the valve is at the top if you want to get dirt from getting in and staying in due to gravity. You can still access the valve. Just use a rubber band so it doesn't move while riding and gets caught in the suspension and snaps.

    The Monarch is a nice shock. I like my 4.2 and don't plan on switching it out. For a bombproof 160mm fork I recommend the coil Domain 318. Very tough and not expensive.
    For crankset I recommend the Shimano SLX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Dunno.. Thats how it came out of the box. Does it matter performance wise? I'll flip it regardless... but just curious.
    Rocker clearance I believe for knobs, valve...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    Performance is the same for both shock orientations.

    It's flipped so the frame does not snap the swivel air valve. Flip it so the valve is at the top if you want to get dirt from getting in and staying in due to gravity. You can still access the valve. Just use a rubber band so it doesn't move while riding and gets caught in the suspension and snaps.

    The Monarch is a nice shock. I like my 4.2 and don't plan on switching it out. For a bombproof 160mm fork I recommend the coil Domain 318. Very tough and not expensive.
    For crankset I recommend the Shimano SLX.
    Thanks for the reco Dictatorsaurus! I appreciate the input. Ive heard mixed reviews about the 3.1 shock... actually... mainly all bad because of some factory defects, but its covered under warranty, and ive heard most of the time SRAM will end up upgrading you to the 4.2 if you have issues, so ill have to see. I only ask on the rear shock because im about 200lbs and wasnt sure if it would handle that kind of weight. Ill check out the forks and cranks.. Thanks again!
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    Calles, I saw you posted in my build-up thread and were asking for recommendations.

    First off, congrats on the Flite and don't let anyone give you guff about it - It is a fantastic frame for the price

    You can check out my build list for recommendations as I carefully researched every part and balanced it with price and reliability and I can honestly say I wouldn't change anything except for the post (a drop post wold be nice but $$) and the fork (as a stock one) - If I had the $$ at the time (or now), I'd rather have a Totem or even a Domain 318. BUT!!!, I did do the most excellent shim-stack mod by Mr.P and have no complaints (especially for what I spent).



    * Frame: 18" Sette Flite
    * Fork: Marzocchi 55-TST2 (shim-stack modded)
    * Shock: Manitou Swinger 4X
    * Brakes: Avid BB7 (SD7 Levers)
    * Cranks: Holzfeller OCT 2.2RG
    * Pedals: Time ATAC Alium
    * Bottom Bracket: Howitzer XR
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT (Low-Normal)
    * Stem: Sette Edge
    * Handlebar: Easton MonkeyLite XC
    * Grips: ODI Yeti (locking)
    * Shifters: SRAM MRX-Comp (twist)
    * Bar Ends: Sette XE
    * Seatpost: Kore I-Beam
    * Saddle: SDG I-Fly
    * Cassette: SRAM PG-850 ( 8-SPEED!!! )
    * Headset: Cane Creek ZS-110
    * Tires: Panaracer Fire FR 2.4
    * Rims: WTB FX28
    * Rear Hub: Shimano XT M756
    * Front Hub: Sette 20mm T/A
    * Misc: Red ano bits from Hope
    * Weight: 34.7 lbs
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Nice bike, highdelllll. Hope it doesn't fall over
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    Try and keep the bike as black and white as possible. Don't go and get like red grips or an overly decalled fork. That would look insaaane if you could keep it simple....
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    I am no longer a hardtailkid. 2012 Trek Remedy 9!

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    Fork: http://www.marzocchi.com/template/de...dOggetto=56806

    heh...the link kinda says ghetto
    Sorrry, but I kinda have a lot of time on my hands, so Ill post some links of parts I think would fit the build, or this how I would build it if I had an unlimited budget

    Wheels: http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...Id=123&added=1

    Crankset: http://www.sram.com/en/truvativ/trai...stylo/22am.php

    Brakes: (you can get them in white) http://www.sram.com/en/avid/hydrauli...es/elixirr.php

    Shifters/Derailleurs: http://www.sram.com/en/srammountain/...s/x9/index.php

    Cassette: http://www.sram.com/en/srammountain/...peed/pg980.php

    I'll say this again, for the lasting effect: I put these specific parts here because that is how I would build the bike if I was on an unlimited budget. I know these may be a tad out of your budgeet, but maybe you can use some of the products or at least use the links to check out another product...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    Nice bike, highdelllll. Hope it doesn't fall over
    I forgot who it was - but someone suggested it would be better if it did (essentially)
    Talk about elitist... it's not like I have garbage parts
    when is ~$2k good to throw in a fire?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    What a dooooooosh! I would kill for 90% of the bikes I see on this site and for someone to say that?! Thats just a total doosh move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I forgot who it was - but someone suggested it would be better if it did (essentially)
    Talk about elitist...
    It was Malibu who said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    It was Malibu who said that.
    ah, yeah...Malibu - which is weird - because he normally agrees w/ me on a bunch of sh!t..(not that that matters)<~~when else can you have two of the same words in a row?

    Anyways..it was a silly comment that that was easily blown off.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    He was making fun of your bike right after posting a thread talking about his cracked GT frame. He was just kidding about your bike still ironic though. Ihave strange selective memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus
    He was making fun of your bike right after posting a thread talking about his cracked GT frame. He was just kidding about your bike still ironic though. Ihave strange selective memory.
    Well, Between both of us, I think we can remember half of half of everything!
    I have a sieve for a memory collector
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    when else can you have two of the same words in a row?
    Depends ....

    How long will this sturdy last last?
    There were plenty of right-handed ladles, but there was only one left left.
    But it depends on what your meaning of is is.

    Or for a real corker:
    John: I had a bit too much to drink that night.
    James: I had had a bit too much to drink that night

    James, while John had had "had," had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on those reading.

    11 'had's in a row. Pow ... cop that!

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    The competition for most words in a row and still making sense is so so so SO SOO so so so soooo soo so confusing!

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    CRAP! Only 11. I'm a failure......

    I'm so out of it, I need to ride. I haven't ridden since last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuclear_powered
    Depends ....

    How long will this sturdy last last?
    There were plenty of right-handed ladles, but there was only one left left.
    But it depends on what your meaning of is is.

    Or for a real corker:
    John: I had a bit too much to drink that night.
    James: I had had a bit too much to drink that night

    James, while John had had "had," had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on those reading.

    11 'had's in a row. Pow ... cop that!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    Fork: http://www.marzocchi.com/template/de...dOggetto=56806

    heh...the link kinda says ghetto
    Sorrry, but I kinda have a lot of time on my hands, so Ill post some links of parts I think would fit the build, or this how I would build it if I had an unlimited budget

    Wheels: http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...Id=123&added=1

    Crankset: http://www.sram.com/en/truvativ/trai...stylo/22am.php

    Brakes: (you can get them in white) http://www.sram.com/en/avid/hydrauli...es/elixirr.php

    Shifters/Derailleurs: http://www.sram.com/en/srammountain/...s/x9/index.php

    Cassette: http://www.sram.com/en/srammountain/...peed/pg980.php

    I'll say this again, for the lasting effect: I put these specific parts here because that is how I would build the bike if I was on an unlimited budget. I know these may be a tad out of your budgeet, but maybe you can use some of the products or at least use the links to check out another product...
    Thank you for your input, and thanks for your feedback as well Highdelll
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    New Components arrived today 7/16/10. Thought I'd post a pic so you guys could see. Nothin fancy, hopefully more will come in a couple weeks.

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    That is awesome! That bike is going to look shweet. What parts do you have on order right now (specifically)?
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    Not to be obsessed or anything (I am....lol), but look at some higher end Bontrager Wheelsets. Black rims, black hubs, white decals OH YEAHH
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    Great deal on an awesome fork

    NEW Rock Shox Lyrik U-Turn 160mm 1.5-in Suspension $339.93
    http://www.bikewagon.com/Forks-Heads...-p8796264.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYMtnBkr
    NEW Rock Shox Lyrik U-Turn 160mm 1.5-in Suspension $339.93
    http://www.bikewagon.com/Forks-Heads...-p8796264.html
    The bold part makes it not so great of a deal
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I forgot who it was - but someone suggested it would be better if it did (essentially)
    Talk about elitist... it's not like I have garbage parts
    when is ~$2k good to throw in a fire?
    I thought my ears were burning when I neared this thread.

    Sorry about coming off as elitist--that's not me at all and I think your bike is freakin' hawt. You seem like like a very funny and cool guy. I know that humor can get lost in translation over the internets and mine was a less than successful attempt. I was trying to sound elitist like some who frequent this place as in "You have a Sette? Might as well kick it in the fire." And yep, my GT frame had just cracked.

    Speaking of memory, my comments were in the "painting brake rotors" thread IIRC.

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    No worries malibu - I know humor is hard to get across on the net sometimes
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    no worries malibu we realized you were joking. But as you know there are many ignorant elitists around here that care more about where the bike was bought rather than the quality of the bike itself.

    Highdelllllllllllll's build is rather tasteful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    New Components arrived today 7/16/10. Thought I'd post a pic so you guys could see. Nothin fancy, hopefully more will come in a couple weeks.

    that nukeproof stuff is really nice. i was looking at it for my build as well but opted to go with something else.

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    Speaking of painting brake rotors (lol...) what if I just painted the arms of the rotor, not the braking surface? LOL I'm going to get an old rotor I have and spray paint it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    Speaking of painting brake rotors (lol...) what if I just painted the arms of the rotor, not the braking surface? LOL I'm going to get an old rotor I have and spray paint it
    yeah - you are absolutely correct - NEVER the braking surface!!!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus

    Highdelllllllllllll's build is rather tasteful.
    Thanks man - I did put alot of thought into it
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    The bold part makes it not so great of a deal
    Doesn't it have a 1.5 head tube? The picture sure looks like it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYMtnBkr
    Doesn't it have a 1.5 head tube? The picture sure looks like it does.
    The picture of what?
    The Flite? - It's a ZERO-STACK headset (or semi-integrated) which is a 43.9mm HT vs. a 49.6mm HT for 1.5" sets.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    The picture of what?
    The picture of the white Sette Flight frame that the op posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYMtnBkr
    The picture of the white Sette Flight frame that the op posted.
    right... I got that frame...

    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    So is it a 1.5 or 1 1/8 headtube?

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    I thought I made that clear - a 1 1/8"
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    right... I got that frame...

    I like your kick stand!!

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    Alright, so if no one can offer any strong suggestions why not to get it before Monday, I'll be ordering this fork.



    It's got a 4.2 star quick rating, and no actual reviews on this site, but seems to be the few that took the time to rate it had mostly positive feedback. I've had trouble finding a wide variety of 160mm travel forks, and the ones I have either have a 1.5" steerer tube or cost almost double what my frame did.

    I think for now I'd like to stick with the $300 fork and ensure that I can spend enough on other important components i.e. wheelset, crank, brakes etc. even though I know I'll wish I had the $1100 "FOX triple XXX Gives You a Stiffy From the Wet Open Bath 7000" one... Ohh well...

    Thoughts?
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    Man!
    I was gonna suggest spending just a bit more and getting the TST version and then doing the most excellent shim-stack mod by Mr. P
    But damn!!! the prices are waaay up. I thought I got a good seal but... jeez.
    So, I looked for a Domain that might be nice - buuuut- six-hunderd-fukkin dollars!

    Anyways, sorry I'm no real help I know ZERO about that damper. - But the guy I linked above might!

    One thing's for sure, big travel=big$$

    **EDIT - TYPOS!
    Last edited by highdelll; 07-18-2010 at 01:04 PM.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff in Bend
    I like your kick stand!!
    huh? I never really got a good one - Everyone kept screwin' w/ me.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    So, I looked for a Domain than might be nice - buuuut- sixty-fukkin dollars!
    You found a 160mm domain with a 1 1/8 steerer for only $360? Could ya link it? That might be an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    You found a 160mm domain with a 1 1/8 steerer for only $360? Could ya link it? That might be an option.
    Major typo dood - (well more like brain-fart)
    I meant 600 dollars
    oops!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Major typo dood - (well more like brain-fart)
    I meant 600 dollars
    oops!
    Were you drunk posting again ! Jeez.. I keep following your advice and Ima end up with a solid lead seat post sticking through the bottom bracket, and a wooden covered-wagon type wheel duct taped on to my 50mm travel fork
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Were you drunk posting again ! Jeez.. I keep following your advice and Ima end up with a solid lead seat post sticking through the bottom bracket, and a wooden covered-wagon type wheel duct taped on to my 50mm travel fork
    Possibly
    But that does sound like a sweet setup
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    UPDATE!

    Just placed an order for the next 4 components. I had to order 2 of them from CCR (the only reputable Euro company that exports Nuke Proof that I've found so far, and they are as follows:

    Handlebars, I got 20mm rise


    Stem


    Fork


    Headset


    I'm gonna go blue anodized for the little accent sh!t such as seat post clamp and headset and brake lever etc., otherwise it'll be all black/white. I'm thinking I'm on the right track to build a reliable AM setup. Next up is a crank and wheelset, which I'm still very undecided about. As with the rest of the thread, suggestions on the 2 are very welcome, and I'll post pictures when the parts get here.
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    Oh Snap!
    It's on now!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Can't wait to see it all put together. Now it's time for the drive train. Are you going with a 1x9 set up or full kit?

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    Go with a 2x9!!!!!

    Shimano or SRAM??
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    Just curious.....how do you think the red decals on the fork will look with yellow logos on the stem and bar and blue headset? It's all on the front most part of the bike, so I can't really see how that would look any good. Not slamming, just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boogyman
    Can't wait to see it all put together. Now it's time for the drive train. Are you going with a 1x9 set up or full kit?
    I have really been tossing around the 1x9... I might go 2x9, but I know it wouldn't be a 3x9. I'd like to get a setup with bash guard on it, or one on which its possible to put one. I'm gonna need ur guys' help to decide on that one!

    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    Just curious.....how do you think the red decals on the fork will look with yellow logos on the stem and bar and blue headset? It's all on the front most part of the bike, so I can't really see how that would look any good. Not slamming, just saying.
    The red and yellow are very subtle, and if the red decals on the fork ARE in fact actual stickers, they'll be coming off anyway. The adjustment screws are red... yes, but I feel like after all the other blue ano goes on i.e. brake levers (blue/white), painted disc arms, seat post clamp, maybe hubs if I can find them, and obviously... blue chromies... that the bike will be mainly black/white with just enough blue accent to give it a bit of a tri-color scheme... This might not work, and it'll turn out looking like ****... but if that happens at least I still have a bike that rides like a baller!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    I have really been tossing around the 1x9... I might go 2x9, but I know it wouldn't be a 3x9. I'd like to get a setup with bash guard on it, or one on which its possible to put one. I'm gonna need ur guys' help to decide on that one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    The red and yellow are very subtle, and if the red decals on the fork ARE in fact actual stickers, they'll be coming off anyway.
    The decals on the fork ARE stickers
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Holzfeller OCT 2.2 RG


    (I have the black one)

    That crank looks perfect, and its pretty cheap to!

    If I do end up deciding on 2x9 ill more than likely go with that one.
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    if you want to save money on your wheels get superstar switch hubs (come in blue ano) with your choice of rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    Go with a 2x9!!!!!

    Shimano or SRAM??
    I vote 1x10

    SLX or X7 10 speed cassette, 11-36 T, 36T Chainring up front with a guide and you've got all the gearings you need and no FD to mess with or drop chains

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyjoedotorg
    I vote 1x10

    SLX or X7 10 speed cassette, 11-36 T, 36T Chainring up front with a guide and you've got all the gearings you need and no FD to mess with or drop chains
    I disagree
    10 spd is marketing crap
    and with a 36-36, there is no under-drive

    (not trying to start an argument just explaining why I disagree)
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I disagree
    10 spd is marketing crap
    and with a 36-36, there is no under-drive

    (not trying to start an argument just explaining why I disagree)
    BUT, not having a FD would be nice.. thats a plus to the 1x9
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I disagree
    10 spd is marketing crap
    and with a 36-36, there is no under-drive

    (not trying to start an argument just explaining why I disagree)
    Sure, everyone's entitled to their opinion

    Personally I could drop the granny gear and go 1x10 and be happy with the gearing ratios. If 36T 9 speed cassettes were around, I'd probably be rocking a 1x9.

    Besides, it looks like he's building a burly AM bike - you can just push anything that needs more gearing ratio to get up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyjoedotorg
    Sure, everyone's entitled to their opinion

    Personally I could drop the granny gear and go 1x10 and be happy with the gearing ratios. If 36T 9 speed cassettes were around, I'd probably be rocking a 1x9.

    Besides, it looks like he's building a burly AM bike - you can just push anything that needs more gearing ratio to get up.
    Which is what I still sometimes do with 22-32
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    BUT, not having a FD would be nice.. thats a plus to the 1x9
    absolutely dood
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    if you want to save money on your wheels get superstar switch hubs (come in blue ano) with your choice of rims.
    Could you give me a link? Me and google are having trouble finding what your talking about. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    I would kill for 90% of the bikes I see on this site
    Please, do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Please, do not.
    Oh what?

    waah-waah
    you don't wanna die?
    waah-waah

    HTFU
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Could you give me a link? Me and google are having trouble finding what your talking about. Thanks
    This is what he's talking about:

    http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/produ...roducts_id=347

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    Thanks muchacho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Please, do not.
    Just keep me from looking at the Lynskey, Ibis, Titus, Turner, Yeti, Transition, Santa Cruz, Ellsworth, Moots, Eriksen, Tomac, Nicolai, BMC, Cove, and Intense photo threads and I'll be able to go without killing someone for their bike
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    Scrap the blue brake lever comment. Found a really good deal on some Avid Juicy 3s and I couldn't pass them up. Gonna have all black brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Oh what?

    waah-waah
    you don't wanna die?
    waah-waah

    HTFU
    What did you have for lunch?
    Quote Originally Posted by anthonys
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    What did you have for lunch?
    home-made tacos...

    But I can talk sh!t about people killin for their bikes, I have a Sette
    And all my other bikes (tho, 'name-brand') are old
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    home-made tacos...

    But I can talk sh!t about people killin for their bikes, I have a Sette
    And all my other bikes (tho, 'name-brand') are old
    Don't have 'em again. I think they were tainted
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I disagree
    10 spd is marketing crap
    and with a 36-36, there is no under-drive
    10speed is not needed indeed. But the 11-36 range is very nice for 1x9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    Don't have 'em again. I think they were tainted
    ok pumpkin...get it off of your chest... what is it that's bothering you...?
    (I KNOW it can't be me shootin across the bow @ Curmy...he's too soft for tha...oh shi..&^^%...what tha!!..^%#%..--never mind)
    Last edited by highdelll; 07-23-2010 at 12:54 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    10speed is not needed indeed. But the 11-36 range is very nice for 1x9.
    I think necessary for a 1X
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyjoedotorg
    If I did get the switch hubs would they be compatible with my frame/fork? (just did the Euro conversion and its about $240 before shipping from Europe, so I wanna make sure they work correctly... duh I guess)

    Also, since when did axles start coming with the fork instead of the wheel? Has it always been like this on MTBs? I don't remember it that way on the 20"s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Also, since when did axles start coming with the fork instead of the wheel? Has it always been like this on MTBs? I don't remember it that way on the 20"s
    If you're going 20mm or 15mm they come with the fork as the way they hook up to the fork lowers isn't standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyjoedotorg
    If you're going 20mm or 15mm they come with the fork as the way they hook up to the fork lowers isn't standard.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    So here's what I'm pretty sure I'm going with for a crankset/guide. I still havn't decided on whether or not to go with the 9 or 10 speed cassette or which RD I will have (somewhat dependent on the cassette of course) but this will be my next order once the bank account recovers from the hit of the last order.

    Crank:


    BG/Guide:


    Thoughts? Concerns? Random drunken Highdelll post? All input appreciated!
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    That crank is pretty heavy, but definitely a great price for it. RaceFace bottom brackets don't have a good rep, but my Diabolus BB is holding up pretty well since last autumn.

    Have you checked for frame compatibility for that guide? Definitely a solid choice but not all guides go with all frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olijay
    That crank is pretty heavy, but definitely a great price for it. RaceFace bottom brackets don't have a good rep, but my Diabolus BB is holding up pretty well since last autumn.

    Have you checked for frame compatibility for that guide? Definitely a solid choice but not all guides go with all frames.
    If you follow my link to the web page it says that it comes with this option:

    White, 32-36T, BB Mount

    I'm assuming this means I can mount it right to the BB? I've never used a BG/Guide before.
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    Yeah it should mount right on there, the only question is if it interferes with the swingarm. Not sure how you would find that out, but I know e13 has a frame compatibility search on their site:
    http://www.e13components.com/support_guidepicker.php

    Also, a single 36T front chainring sounds pretty brutal for AM. I'm running 1x9 32 up front and 11-32 in the back (soon to be 11-34) and god the uphills are killing me sometimes. Have you tried any uphills on a setup like this? I'm just wondering if you'll go 1x9 or 1x10 and later regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olijay
    Also, a single 36T front chainring sounds pretty brutal for AM. I'm running 1x9 32 up front and 11-32 in the back (soon to be 11-34) and god the uphills are killing me sometimes. Have you tried any uphills on a setup like this? I'm just wondering if you'll go 1x9 or 1x10 and later regret it.
    I actually have never ridden a 1x9 setup before period, so it will be a new experience for me. Would it be better to go with a 32t up front do ya think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    I actually have never ridden a 1x9 setup before period, so it will be a new experience for me. Would it be better to go with a 32t up front do ya think?
    Well you can always change chanrings so it's not a huge deal. I really do think you will be struggling on the climbs with 36T front 34T rear. 36T rear (10spd) will be much better.

    I'm just talking from what I know, I had a 2x9 setup with 22-34 front and 11-32 rear. Had to get a new crank since I bent my old one and that came with 32T middle ring. That enabled me to go 1x9 since I so rarely used the granny ring, even though I miss it occasionally, heh. The 11-34 cassette I have on the way will be even better, I'm sure.

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    heheheh

    Lol... I went through hell and back to get this video from my iphone, onto my computer, and rotated upright lol, and it isn't even cool... but it shows my first jump that I revamped from an area me and my buds built way back when for our 20"ers.

    I have a better video camera, but this was on a whim and I figured what the hell, wasn't doing anything else tonight anyway.

    Skip 40 seconds In (I had to prop up my phone and run up the drop in really quick so theres a pause)
    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_f-4b3YIl2o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_f-4b3YIl2o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

    I know... I'm not wearing a helmet... I have no excuse.

    But hey, First shipment of new parts comes tomorrow, followed by another on Tuesday and Wednesday. Yippie! Ill post pics later this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles

    But hey, First shipment of new parts comes tomorrow, followed by another on Tuesday and Wednesday. Yippie! Ill post pics later this week.
    DOOD!! where's yer fukkin helmet!?
    haha - jusst goofin - I shoulda said..."Doood, where's your editing out of bs crap!!!" (viewer time)
    J/K - no...seriously...

    Regardless, that looked smooth...keep it up!
    get a helmet and edit down!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Ya... I know.. It was an impromptu ride that I didn't throw it on for...When I ride more aggressively i always wear it.

    My copy of windows 7 is a dev version meaning it only runs on the basics, and as such doesnt have windows movie maker, and I wont pay for one as Im not all that serious about movies. I do edit most of mine (you can watch my balisong videos to see) but this was all I could muster until I build my next computer.
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    You can get the Windows Line Movie Maker for free here: http://explore.live.com/windows-live-movie-maker

    Nice bike. Looks like a fun project. I applaud your patience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rider70
    Nice bike. Looks like a fun project. I applaud your patience!
    Thanks!

    Since my fork/headset will be coming tomorrow and I'll be doin the install tomorrow night, any tips on pressing in the headset? I don't have any special presses or anything sooo... if anyone has a tip to make it go a bit more smoothly that would be awesome!
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    NICE! I wish I had something that exciting to do....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Thanks!

    Since my fork/headset will be coming tomorrow and I'll be doin the install tomorrow night, any tips on pressing in the headset? I don't have any special presses or anything sooo... if anyone has a tip to make it go a bit more smoothly that would be awesome!

    You *can* just use a rubber mallet and tap it in - I've done that before. The easier way to do it, IMO is to go and get some 3/8th threaded rod (prob 8" or so) and some big-ass washers and nuts to make yourself a nice little press. Tap the cups in real lightly just to get it started and then press in the rest with the home-made press. Do one cup at a time. While you're at the hardware store, get yourself some 1" PVC and cut a cross with a hacksaw lengthwise a couple inches, flare out the end of the pipe and you've got yourself a headset cup remover, in the case you need to pull the sucker out. Save your $ for the blue-tool brand workstand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Thanks!

    Since my fork/headset will be coming tomorrow and I'll be doin the install tomorrow night, any tips on pressing in the headset? I don't have any special presses or anything sooo... if anyone has a tip to make it go a bit more smoothly that would be awesome!
    I press all headsets using a small ball-peen hammer and a large steel washer covered in a few layers of duct tape used as padding.

    Unlike a soft mallet and block of wood this setup allows for very precise control as you pound it in. I find it much easier to control then using a makeshift press and faster then a dedicated press. Just apply plenty of grease and tap it in, correcting as you go. Takes me a few seconds per side - not a single problem in many many years.

    Here is my high tech fork race and headset tooling setup that was used for probably more then a dozen recent installs. Race is pounded on with a piece of precisely selected plumbing pipe.

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    Also, I've seen on here, a press made with a dumbbell set - pretty clever

    ah, I think I found it
    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/KEczBjf8aKI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/KEczBjf8aKI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

    also a cool tutorial by speedub.nate
    https://forums.mtbr.com/tooltime/mkiii-homemade-headset-tools-130069.html#post1190007
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    LOL

    Nice work Highdell. I actually have that dumbbell set too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    New Components arrived today 7/16/10. Thought I'd post a pic so you guys could see. Nothin fancy, hopefully more will come in a couple weeks.


    Nice High Chair! I have the same one.


    Oh yeah....I like the grips and pedals too. Can't wait to see the finished build.

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    Thanks for all the help guys! So, I went the rubber mallet/piece or thick leather route to pound in the cups, which seemed to work well (though not amazing lol) and I have a few more questions... damn me anyway...

    Pictures:

    New brakes, fork, helmet, and headset:


    Installed(maybe):




    But here is the question... there is a gap between the top of the fork and the bottom of the headset when the bottom seal is installed here:



    Is that normal? here it is without the bottom seal which is what most others I've seen look like:



    The reason for this is a taper on the steer tube right next to where it connects to the fork as seen here:




    Is this normal? Am I missing something or do i just need to pound it down? Unlike with the cups, I feel like if i force down the bottom seal down onto the taper it would break/stretch/some other bad thing.

    Another question which Highdelll may be able to answer is in the manual for the headset it mentions installing pressure rings inbetween the bronze and blue anodized top cap seen here:



    The manual says "if required" so I'm unsure if i need to worry about it. Do I need to worry about this on my bike? I only say highdelll could answer because he has done this exact same install.

    I havnt cut the steer tube yet as my stem and bars havn't been delivered so I cant properly gauge what I need for length.

    The LBS basically told me to F-off when I asked about installation (probly because they wanted the $$ in labor to do it themselves, and I am deadset on doing this build myself)

    Thanks in advance for the help!
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    once you tighten down the preload cap with the stem on, it should push down the crown race. that's how i do it, anyway.

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    Calles, I don't think your cups are in all the way...
    I can't even slide a piece of tracing paper between the cups and the Head-tube.



    **Edit** those "if necessary" shims are for if the top-race rubs. - I believe I used the thin one on mine... if you want me to, I suppose I could go out and disassemble mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine
    once you tighten down the preload cap with the stem on, it should push down the crown race. that's how i do it, anyway.
    I think that's a terrible idea.

    Calles, use a PVC pipe&mallet.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Meh... gonna go pound... be right back...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Meh... gonna go pound... be right back...
    can you do a setup like this? (i Posted on the other page, but since we're on this one )

    -yeah, I realize it's not the same cups - I was having probs with the ZS-3 at that point...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    I think this if flush for sure now:



    Suck it Trebek!



    Heheheh.

    (sorry.... beer)

    So that bottom seal should tighten down after I torque everything down with the stem and such? And that portion of the steer tube shouldn't be showing correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    So that bottom seal should tighten down after I torque everything down with the stem and such? And that portion of the steer tube shouldn't be showing correct?
    I wouldn't do it that way - Like I suggested before - flush cut PVC and a mallet

    And yeah, no steerer showing below the crown race

    Best pic I have of the crown-race
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I wouldn't do it that way - Like I suggested before - flush cut PVC and a mallet
    Alright, I'll give that a go tomorrow when the hardware store opens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Alright, I'll give that a go tomorrow when the hardware store opens.
    Tip:
    Clamp a 2x4 on your bench and set your crown on that when you set the crown race.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Thanks for all the help guys! So, I went the rubber mallet/piece or thick leather route to pound in the cups, which seemed to work well (though not amazing lol) and I have a few more questions... damn me anyway...

    That piece of plastic pipe in the picture I posted - I use it to pound the race all the way down. I use a steel pipe as a hammer. You can pick up both at any hardware store. It needs to sit flush.


    Take your time, post pictures here, we will guide you through. Forget LBS. Assembling a bike is not rocket science - you will be better off doing everything yourself.

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    I got that crown race seated properly on the fork using the PVC pipe method Thanks!

    Hopefully the stem and bars come tomorrow and it will start looking like a bike
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    Sick brothah!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    This is a fantastic thread actually, great pictures from you guys as well.
    I have a fork on the way and I've been wondering how hard all this stuff is. Doesn't look too bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olijay
    This is a fantastic thread actually, great pictures from you guys as well.
    I have a fork on the way and I've been wondering how hard all this stuff is. Doesn't look too bad!
    It really isn't all that difficult, but it IS nice to have people who are willing to help you out when you have specific questions, and people seem to be very helpful here.
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    Nice work. Is this your first time doing this?

    Btw, TF2 player here too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyjoedotorg
    Nice work. Is this your first time doing this?

    Btw, TF2 player here too.
    Hah! Nice, glad you recognized the quote. Yeah, its my first time building a MTB, but ive built/maintained BMX bikes in the past so I have a bit of knowledge.

    The fuzziest areas for me are shifters/derailleurs, and cranks/gearing and heasdets.
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    My reply button is doin bad things to me...
    Last edited by Calles; 07-29-2010 at 09:28 PM.
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    Here we go, it's actually starting to look like a bike!

    As it sits in the garage right now:





    The properly seated crown race:



    Thanks for the help on the front end so far guys! Just got the drivetrain, wheels, and rear end left to go! I'll more than likely be orderin' up the crankset and seatpost next.
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    What wheelset are you throwing on that guy?

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    I havn't made up my mind on the wheelset yet. Im actually hoping somone will drop by with an amazing suggestion.

    Id love to do a set of Crank Brothers, but they are way out of my price range.
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    Which CB set were you looking at? Any particular weight, rim width, etc... goals? I have a pair of Transition Revolution 28's that I'm really happy with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    I havn't made up my mind on the wheelset yet. Im actually hoping somone will drop by with an amazing suggestion.

    Id love to do a set of Crank Brothers, but they are way out of my price range.
    yeah, the CB's are really for bling (along with I9's) IMO.
    A 'regular' wheelset will do ya just fine...
    might I suggest BWW for a set?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    yeah, the CB's are really for bling (along with I9's) IMO.
    A 'regular' wheelset will do ya just fine...
    might I suggest BWW for a set?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Id love to do a set of Crank Brothers, but they are way out of my price range.
    My recommendation is a set of Hope Hoops, ordered from Wiggle. Stan's Flow rims. Currently rear is $226, front $134, free delivery, no VAT (I think I have some discount running there though). I have three sets - all working well, and Hope Pro 2 hub is robust, has alot of axle choices, easy to service. I think $350 delivered for a set is a very hard to beat value. Got my shipments from UK in just a few days. A bit on the loud side though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    ... A bit on the loud side though.
    Yeah... If ya want quiet ( at the expense of some engagement) ...XT's
    I, personally, like the XTs for their 'silence' (they're pretty solid too - and serviceable)
    Now, the engagement is not that bad, but I would seriously consider a hub that had more and was just as quiet.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Yeah... If ya want quiet ( at the expense of some engagement) ...XT's
    I, personally, like the XTs for their 'silence' (they're pretty solid too - and serviceable)
    Now, the engagement is not that bad, but I would seriously consider a hub that had more and was just as quiet.
    True, they're pretty serviceable, but cup & cone bearings can also be kind of a beeotch. The new XT's have more than the old 16 pt engagement too, but you have to be willing to do the centerlock rotors.

    Personally, the bearings and center lock rotors kill it for me. That, and I actually kinda like the angry-bee-buzz of a louder hub

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Yeah... If ya want quiet ( at the expense of some engagement) ...XT's
    I, personally, like the XTs for their 'silence' (they're pretty solid too - and serviceable)
    Now, the engagement is not that bad, but I would seriously consider a hub that had more and was just as quiet.
    I kind of got used to the clicking. Reminds me to keep cranking. I liked that it was so easy to convert my Hope hubs to bolt-ons and through axles. Will be convertable to this new 142x12 standard. A must have IMO. No tools service is useful. At that price - you pretty much get full wheel with Flow rims and wheel build for the price of a hub. Their factory build seems quite nice and holds up.

    I have nothing against XT - at all. Really like it. But then I am not an engagement whore.

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    Speaking of Jenson, they sometimes have Easton Havoc wheelsets on sale for US$350-400. Currently none there, but they pop in now and then.

    Really schmick lookin wheelset, and pretty damn tough - but that's only going by what I've read. I've yet to put any kilometers (miles) on mine as I only got the bike they're on build up yesterday.

    Oh, and they're not too loud, if that's important. Wasn't for me, but thought I'd mention it.

    Bike's looking good Calles. Like a good build project now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwayne5
    Ewww...
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    huh? I never really got a good one - Everyone kept screwin' w/ me.
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    Sorry for the lack of updates guys. I havnt had much to talk about until today. Had to take some time for the money jar to build back up again before the next order lol.

    BUT, These shipped today:

    Crank:


    Guide:


    Seatpost:


    Clamp:


    I decided to go with the 1x9 drivetrain and the 36t ring up front. If the 36 is to much of a pain, the guide is supposed to work with a 32t as well, so thats an option.

    I actually ended up ordering the guide from a separate retailer, as Jenson had this size on backorder (backorder is equatable to waterboarding).

    Anyway, should be here middle of next week, and I'm getting DAMN close to done. I think the wheelset is the last real major purchase? other than RD, cassette, and tires?

    I know many people have offered suggestions on wheels already, but keep them coming! I appreciate all the input you folks can muster on wheels, cassettes, derailleurs, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    I decided to go with the 1x9 drivetrain and the 36t ring up front. If the 36 is to much of a pain, the guide is supposed to work with a 32t as well, so thats an option.
    Why not 1x10 and a 10speed 11-36 SLX cassette, derailler and shifter? Early reports is that it holds up just fine.

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    you would benefit from buying bikes/components from a good shop. Your bike will be set up properly, assembled correctly, and if you take the initiative and are cool, you can have the mechanic show you through every step of assembly and maintenance.

    And you will be happier knowing that your money supports the local scene instead of some mail order warehouse or some super supplier from china.

    Just sayin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilMick
    you would benefit from buying bikes/components from a good shop. Your bike will be set up properly, assembled correctly, and if you take the initiative and are cool, you can have the mechanic show you through every step of assembly and maintenance.

    And you will be happier knowing that your money supports the local scene instead of some mail order warehouse or some super supplier from china.

    Just sayin....
    Thank you for your 2 cents. It has been taken with a grain of salt.

    I have spent a lot of money at my LBS only to be told to go f**k myself more or less by the mechanics when it comes to asking for help. I enjoy building my bike, and learning the ins and outs myself. If a LBS cant offer me a competitive price, and gives me less than great service, I will take my business elsewhere. I appreciate the help that I have received from the great members here so far. If you have nothing other than criticism to offer, I would ask you to find another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilMick
    you would benefit from buying bikes/components from a good shop. Your bike will be set up properly, assembled correctly, and if you take the initiative and are cool, you can have the mechanic show you through every step of assembly and maintenance.

    And you will be happier knowing that your money supports the local scene instead of some mail order warehouse or some super supplier from china.

    Just sayin....

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    The build is looking sweet! Can't wait to see how it all comes together...

    In regard to your wheels, ordering a set from Bicycle Wheel Warehouse (BWW) or a set of Hope Hoops from Chain Reaction Cycles like others have mentioned would be a really good way to go.

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    i still say get some superstar switch wheels. same design as hopes but alot cheaper. get some mavic en521 rims laced to em and you have a bomber wheelset for cheap. the hubs come in alot of sweet colors too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmilMick
    you would benefit from buying bikes/components from a good shop. Your bike will be set up properly, assembled correctly, and if you take the initiative and are cool, you can have the mechanic show you through every step of assembly and maintenance.
    I laugh in your general direction.

    Every time I have dealt with LBS mechanics, with very very few exceptions, they had been a useless waste of time and money.
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    btw, good luck getting that 36 up any signifigant climbs. i would order a 32t ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    btw, good luck getting that 36 up any signifigant climbs. i would order a 32t ring.
    ..or 11-36 cassette. ...or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    ..or 11-36 cassette. ...or both.
    possibly both, that crankset is already an anvil nevermind having to push a rediclous gear

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    Well, parts got here today... Here goes the crank and chainguide install!

    Also, wish me luck on the seatpost. Never slid one in the tube before... Do I need lube?

    (pics coming in a couple hours)
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    So, the installation went fairly smoothly (I didn't even need lube for the seatpost... she must have really been excited to get the new parts mounted).

    I only had to disassemble the crank once for proper chain line spacing, and other than that there wasn't a single hickup. I'll have to take the crank back off again to install the 32t chainring that I'm sure I'll be ordering here soon as the CG is definitely in the way.

    I personally think that with the blue rotors, and possibly hubs/rims that the anodized accents will work well. Anyway.. enough bullsh1t, heres the pictures...

    The parts and the beer of the night(sierra nevada tumbler):


    The crank installed:



    This one sorta shows the proper alignment of the CG(at least as far as i can tell):


    Seat and post:



    And... As it sits in the garage:


    Getting damn close! I might make it up to the ski hill before winter at this rate.
    Again, I appreciate everyones comments/suggestions so keep them coming
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    Dood, Did you know that's $hit-hot?
    especially with the Sierra Nevada?!?

    nice man

    Love this shot the best

    You should still lube the post though...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    OP, got a fork yet? Check your PMs.

    Highdell, sweet build! Just quit flamin' and go commute on it
    Go ride your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Also, wish me luck on the seatpost. Never slid one in the tube before... Do I need lube?
    It is more common to wish for friction paste - especially for carbon seatposts, and with QR collars.

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    Lookin' good there. Look like all you need is a wheelset and the rest of your drivetrain.

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    If your looking for something kinda cheap but really durable these might work http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/150...s-Wheelset.htm

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    If you still have not got the wheelset, do not get a Nukeproof one!

    I blew three of their rear hubs in weeks, poorly designed crap.
    Almost as bad as their customer service, and that is saying something.

    Hope hubs are amazing.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    looks like your going to have a sweet ride, no recommendations from me as im a total noob when it comes to parts but i've taken my bikes apart numerous times and i know its a lot of fun. Good luck man

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    Alright, so I'm placing my second to last order for bike parts and I've hit a bit of a snag.

    Here's what I got first off:

    RD and Shifters

    X.9 Short Cage


    X.9


    SRAM 9 Speed


    But heres the snag... Is it IMPOSSIBLE to find a 20mm thru axle front hub wheelset for around $200 dollars? Id be willing to go up to about $275 I suppose, but thats a bit spendy for this college student.

    Another poster earlier mentioned these for $199, but they are on backorder, and Id like to be able to ride this bike before the middle of next year, lol.

    Any ideas? Also, anyone know about how long it would take me to get a wheelset from Bicycle Wheel Warehouse? From what I've read it looks like they build them too order?
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    Nice. X9 is what I'd do.

    That equalizer wheelset looks like a great deal, but I wonder what EQ rim that is... it comes in a number of rim widths which may or may not be the right use for you.

    *edit* nm, close up shows it's an EQ 27 which should be great! So long as you don't mind cup/cone bearings and a bit slower engagement, that might be the wheelset for you.

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    Thumbs up to WheelWorld. Just got a frame from them - very satisfied.

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    I went with this wheelset. Thanks for the input! It should be here Thursday or Friday and I don't see why the other parts wouldnt arrive on or before Friday as well. Sooooo.

    Looks like I MAY have a ride-able bike by this coming weekend!

    Ill post the build pictures soon as I get everything in the mail
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    sweet cant wait to see pics of it complete!

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    Did you get brakes yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid
    Did you get brakes yet?
    Yeah, I got a set of Avid Juicy 3s. I know their not the best, but it was a good price and they'll work until i can afford replacements.

    Actually, that question makes me think I really should put up a "What all I've got so far" post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Yeah, I got a set of Avid Juicy 3s. I know their not the best, but it was a good price and they'll work until i can afford replacements.

    Actually, that question makes me think I really should put up a "What all I've got so far" post.
    I would have went for BB7. Yeah, they are mechanicals, but they are darn good mechanicals. Can be found very cheap.

    Or for the no compromise value solution - the SLX. $91 per side on Chainreactioncycles.

    You would certainly be just fine with Juicy 3s. I dislike bleeding Juicy (and their $40 kit to do that properly), but they function..

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    I like the Sette mountain bikes. I like the red steering stem spacers too. It looks like it would be an ok trailbike, and maybe handle some light all-mountain riding. In my opinion it would handle any of the trails I ride out here in the high desert/mountains. Congrats on the new frame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roasted
    Thumbs up to WheelWorld. Just got a frame from them - very satisfied.

    I haven't received my wheels yet (obviously), but thus far WheelWorld has proven to have good customer service. I selected the wrong shipping option on my order and they called me, on a SUNDAY afternoon to let me know that they would be changing it and that their was a price differential. The representative was courteous, and just the simple fact that they took the time to call me on a Sunday makes me think they will be a good company to deal with.

    If the wheels come promptly and in good shape I will for sure order from them again.
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    +1 for the SLX brakes. I have a set and they rock. As longa s you dont use Hayes V6 rotor with them in the rear, they are quiet as can be. I need to get some new rotors though. They are just really loud. I got them off eBay, brand new, for $79 each.
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    The juicy threes are good brakes the are the same thing as older juicy fives which people raved about.

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    Well, here it is in the garage. Assembled, but in no way tuned:

    The Parts:


















    Still need to tune the derailleur and the fork and shock. I'm not sure that I can tune the rear shock seen as how in my readings it says a good base PSI to start with is equal to your body weight (mine being 200) and my hand pump only goes up to 140psi, and im assuming pushing it up to its limits isnt a good idea.

    Any ideas/tips on tuning the suspension? I havn't been able to ride it at all yet as I don't want to blow anything out.

    Cheers!
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    you should get a shock pump. sweet looking build man!

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    What is the total price delivered?

    (I know, sometimes you do not want to fire up that spreadsheet... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Any ideas/tips on tuning the suspension?
    Idea #1: get a coil shock.

    ..just set sag to around a quarter of the stroke and all adjustments in the middle and ride it. That is not a very tunable air shock. It will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    What is the total price delivered?

    (I know, sometimes you do not want to fire up that spreadsheet... )

    I havn't done the math yet, but ill put up a part list with costs shortly. (as much as I dont want too lol)

    Yes, the new rear shock will probably be the first thing I add to this build. I'm a bigger rider so I was assuming that I'd need something a bit beefier anyway.

    Thanks for the feedback guys! I can't wait to ride it! Keep it coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    I havn't done the math yet, but ill put up a part list with costs shortly. (as much as I dont want too lol)

    Yes, the new rear shock will probably be the first thing I add to this build. I'm a bigger rider so I was assuming that I'd need something a bit beefier anyway.

    Thanks for the feedback guys! I can't wait to ride it! Keep it coming.
    200 is not too big (LOL.. it is a bit big for my short stature though, but I make excuses that I still can run a marathon.. ), if it is 2.0" stroke you possibly looking at 550lb spring? Under 600 its all easy to setup.. Should be some calculators around..

    But suspension may be tuned for air shock... On my Coiler they have two shock positions - same travel, different load curve..

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    The older Flites that were sold with the Swinger 4-way coil had 550lb springs. I had to drop down to a 500lb on mine to get the sag right. I'm 185 geared FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    That's a lovely lawn. What is that, rag weed? Alfalfa?

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    Here's a couple better pictures of the complete bike. I even made sure I put it right next to the tree that hung the bare frame from in the first post:







    Got the Rear shock up to the somewhat right PSI (def gonna need a coil though).

    Tuned the RD and stiffened up the fork. Took it for its first ride I can't wait to hit up the trails. Its fun just going up and down my driveway.
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    Be sure to do a full ride report, that thing looks wicked fun

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    I'll take two! If that thing was under $1500 said and done, I'm gonna build one.
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    And I was totally wrong about the blue looking bad. It looks siiiiick, and I take back what I said
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    Alright, for everyone who asked!

    Frame: Sette Flite Am Frame W/Rockshox Monarch 3.1 399.98
    Fork: Marzocchi 55 RV Fork 2010 299.98
    Crank: Race Face Ride DH X-Type SS Cranks 74.99
    Guide: MRP G2 Mini-G Guide 109.99
    Post: Pro Vibe 7S Seatpost 28.00
    Bars: Nuke Proof Warhead 760 Riser Bars ~50.00
    Stem: Nuke Proof Warhead Stem ~ 40.00
    Cassette: Sram PG-950 9 Speed Cassette 2009 24.98
    Shifter: Sram X.9 Trigger Shifter Individual 2010 58.98
    RD: SRAM X.9 Rear Derailleur 2009 Short Cage 69.98
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 3s (used off ebay) 59.99
    Seat: Nuke Proof Plasma ~50.00
    Pedals: Nuke Proof Proton ~70.00
    Grips: Nuke Proof Lockon ~20.00
    Headset: Cane Creek 110 Zero Stack Headset 129.98
    Wheels: Shimano M525 / Sun Equalizer Disc 20mm 149.99

    For a grand total OF.... 1656.85!!

    I got free shipping on most of the orders, and the vast majority of the smaller parts I got thrown in for shopping for some stuff at the LBS or by being nice and asking for favors from Price Point and Jenson. (both of whom were a pleasure to deal with)

    I did go a bit overboard on some of the parts, and spent a bit more than I needed too, but hey, I feel like its a pretty respectable build for the money.

    Of course, some of the less-than-amazing parts will need replacing, but I'll just ride the living sh1t out of them until then.

    And I was totally wrong about the blue looking bad. It looks siiiiick, and I take back what I said
    Thanks man! Ill be painting the rotors blue to match here when I find time.


    ::EDIT:: Just as a disclaimer! Not included in this price is any unnecessary expenditures (i.e. tools I bought during the process, or liquids such as grease/beer), and other tidbit things (gas back and forth the the LBS, PVC pipe I used to hammer down the headset, chain; because I had an extra)
    Last edited by Calles; 09-28-2010 at 06:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    For a grand total OF.... 1656.85!!
    + tires, tubes, seat clamp. Shifter housing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    + tires, tubes, seat clamp. Shifter housing?

    I didn't include the seat clamp, because one comes with the frame and my vanity was all that made me purchase the $30 Hope clamp. The tires, tubes, housing(end bits included) were thrown in by the LBS
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    Nice build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Well, here it is in the garage....
    Still need to tune the derailleur and the fork and shock. I'm not sure that I can tune the rear shock seen as how in my readings it says a good base PSI to start with is equal to your body weight (mine being 200) and my hand pump only goes up to 140psi, and im assuming pushing it up to its limits isnt a good idea.
    The pressure required is dependent on the position of the shock in the rocker.

    Any ideas/tips on tuning the suspension? I havn't been able to ride it at all yet as I don't want to blow anything out.
    Just pump it up to the max recommended, and let ou until you het your desired sag.

    Cheers!
    Nice to see another Flite!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Wankel
    The older Flites that were sold with the Swinger 4-way coil had 550lb springs. I had to drop down to a 500lb on mine to get the sag right. I'm 185 geared FWIW.
    I dropped to 450# for the 6" setting - 550's great for the 4", but why even put it there (170#s here)
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    Alright, for everyone who asked!
    For a grand total OF.... 1656.85!!
    You spent less than I - nice job!
    I haven't priced it all out though - I'm not sure I want to. - Plus it just keeps going up as you tweak and get stuff to fend off the end-stages of upgradeitis - which I hear is, unfortunately, not fatal.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I dropped to 450# for the 6" setting - 550's great for the 4", but why even put it there (170#s here)
    Would not you need the same spring rate for the same shock stroke, independent of travel? Longer travel has proportionally higher leverage ratio. Though I guess you may want more sag in longer travel mode...
    ..not sure my math is correct at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Would not you need the same spring rate for the same shock stroke, independent of travel? Longer travel has proportionally higher leverage ratio. Though I guess you may want more sag in longer travel mode...
    ..not sure my math is correct at the moment.
    as the leverage DECREASES (from the shock's POV) with more wheel travel at the rocker, it's harder to compress the spring.

    **EDIT - wait - now I'm confused
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I dropped to 450# for the 6" setting - 550's great for the 4", but why even put it there (170#s here)
    So, the different holes in the rocker arm change the travel from 6 to 5 to 4 inches respectively? And this in turn changes what shock I should be using? (if i were to change travel)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    So, the different holes in the rocker arm change the travel from 6 to 5 to 4 inches respectively? And this in turn changes what shock I should be using? (if i were to change travel)
    Yes, closer to the seat tube is longer travel - though I'm pretty sure I had my info 180* wrong about the spring rates - (why the hell did I keep on with that 550# spring? )
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calles
    So, the different holes in the rocker arm change the travel from 6 to 5 to 4 inches respectively? And this in turn changes what shock I should be using? (if i were to change travel)
    For a two inch stroke shock ( looks like 7"x2.0" there?), 6" travel is 3:1 leverage, and 4" is 2:1. Most frames are 2.3:1 to 2.5:1, IIRC. At full compression, you will have the same force at the contact patch (and on you), for the same spring - and the same work done and energy dissipated by shock. So you do not need to change springs.
    I am under weather at the moment, but I think that makes sense.

    I would have kept it in 5" mode.

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    That's a nice looking bike. You forget to take off your nerd rotator.

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    Wow, that came out a lot better that I thought it would... not that I thought it would come out bad in any way. Nice build!

    IMO, you should put a decent amount of riding on that shock before you decide to replace it - the seals need to break in and whatnot before it starts to ride like it should. Tweak and tune it until it feels as good as it's going to get and then decide if you want the coil shock.

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    Nice build! Have you had a chance to really hammer some rides yet?
    "Got everything you need?"

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    How is it going?

    Hi

    I am interested in modifying my rig so I have been going through all posts with Sette Flite. I did get the bike from PricePoint and have so far replaced the brakes with Avid Elixir CR 203 disk mm front and 185mm in the back, Bar ends Sram 991 hollow pin chain, Sram 980 11-32 cassette and Wellgo-WAM-M3 pedals. For summer / commute riding I got hope hoops with evo 2 pro hubs and Stans crest rims, done tubeless with Furious Fred tiers. I use the originals for the trails/winter riding. What I want to do nest is upgrade my old rim with hope hub in the rear and get a new front fork. I like the RockShox Sektor RL Coil 20QR 2011

    But I am nor sure if to get it as it is "only" 150mm and its heavier than the non adjustable one.

    I would love to read more about your rig on this thread, how the front shock is holding up and how the 1x9 gear setup is working out.
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    If you are after a cheap build get the superstar pedals rather than nukeproofs. same design just cheaper.
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