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    Wink Bike Build - opinions wanted

    I have an 06 Jamis Dakar XLT 3.0 frame sitting in my room and want to take a crack at building a bike. I currently ride mostly tame XC, but with my addictive personality will probably venture into AM and Downhill as I gain more experience. Below is the list that I have come up with after researching the various components needed. The parts total just under $1,700 including the frame (also includes all taxes and shipping). I'd appreciate some constructive criticism and feedback regarding choice of parts / overall price.

    -09 Rockshox Tora 318 Coil U-turn w/ Pop-loc
    -WTB Team Internal Cartridge Bearing Headset
    -Shimano XT Disc hubs, Mavic XM819 wheels, DT Swiss Spokes, Kore QR skewers
    -Shimano XT Casette 9-speed M770
    -07 SRAM X.9 twist shifters and X.9 rear derailleur combo
    -Shimano SLX Chainset Triple M660 Hollowtech II
    -Shimano XT M770 front derailleur
    -Shimano CN-HG93, 1/2 x 3/32"
    -07 Avid BB7 Disc Brake Combo kit: Avid BB7s, Avid Speed Dial 7 levers, brake cables
    -Sette Edge O/S Stem w/ F/X2 O/S Carbon Riser Bar
    -Sette Type-H Lock On Grips
    -Sette APX Alloy seat post

    I haven't chosen a saddle yet, would like to perform butt tests before choosing.

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    i could never understand the twist-shift idea, but the rest of the spec sounds solid. Hope PROII hubs with the Mavic rims would have been a better wheel choice, though.

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    I've heard XT hubs are pretty bad, especially the seals. Since you're already building your wheels around $100 wheels you might as well fork up some money to have some nice hubs too, Hope ProII are good.

    I'd get some powerlinks for that chain, just makes its easier imo.

    If you plan to get more into DH you may want to pick up a 7" or 8" rotor and adapter while you're at it.

    I don't trust carbon handlebars, if you want to save weight do it in your wheels and tires

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    Some things to consider are:

    Do you need a straight seatpost or one with layback to get a proper position?

    Stem length. Look through my posts to see opinions and links relating to this.

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    Get at least a 185mm rotor up front. Bigger is better in this case.

    Go with a 20mm through axle and a used Pike U-Turn. It will track better and the Pike is a great fork.

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    The new xt hubs with 36 point engagement arn't bad (more points than hope btw), one could argue the rim is where you get your best bang for the buck performance wise.

    I think it would be money well spent to go with a bit higher end fork, even if that means buying used. A good air fork will be at least a lb lighter and much better damping. I don't know how much travel your frame will work with but rock shox has many 20mm TA fork options including a 120mm travel reba, or revelation with u-turn.

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    XT hubs suck. I speak from experience. Both the older ones and the newer more engagement ones......but that's just my experience. Many people ride them happily. Between my buddy and I we've destroyed 3 freehubs. I now ride Pro 2's. They are fine, except for the annoying noise they make.

    If you ride tame xc trails xt hubs should be just fine, it's when you start to hammer the technical up hills that the freehub blows up.

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    alright better hubs wouldn't be a bad Idea (but I don't think shimano's are that bad), but you will see a bigger performance jump from a better fork.

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    Hope Pro II hubs it is! And it looks like I should shop around for a better fork, even if I have to go used. What should I look out for when shopping for a used fork?

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    how much travel will can that frame take? As long as your going for hope hubs you might as well get a 20mm thru axle fork (this is the am forum after all) Rockshocks pike, reba and revelation are all nice and have 20mm options

    manitou minute and nixon are decent options as well, and will be cheaper than rockshox

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    It's a 5" travel frame. Thanks for the suggestions, looks like I have some research and comparison to do.

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    Representing the 510 Check out JMP if you get a chance.

    Would totally agree go with a 20mm fork axle and bring the brakes up to 8" front 6" rear.

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    Pike 426 has been ordered! Any suggestions for a fairly light, strong, fairly inexpensive wheelset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510
    Pike 426 has been ordered! Any suggestions for a fairly light, strong, fairly inexpensive wheelset?
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    I don't know what to tell you light strong and cheap doesn't exist, at least not at retail. You could look for a set of easton havocs for around 350, or you could camp ebay and forum classifieds for something nice. $300 can get you a really nice wheelset if your pacient.

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    Forget the hubs...get a nice set of vintage XTR's or Suntour Cyclone hubs off ebay, I had them, they are just about as good as anything else (especially for a roller bearing) and if you can find them they should be cheap, if you dont mind a lil extra weight and like strength (like I do) scrap the cranks for profiles...last crank you will ever have to buy...PERIOD.
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    Anyone have any experience with the Azonic Outlaw wheelset? They have a decent rating in the review section...Azonic Outlaw wheelset

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510
    Anyone have any experience with the Azonic Outlaw wheelset? They have a decent rating in the review section...Azonic Outlaw wheelset
    I thrashed a set all season. They're still holding up just fine. Engagement isn't super, but it's not terrible either. Also, the Outlaws aren't terribly heavy...especially when you consider that they're 36 spoke wheels.

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    What about these? Saint / Mavic EX729

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    ... and if we just ... Update...

    All parts have arrived or are now in a big brown truck! Here is the spec list:

    -06 Jamis Dakar XLT 3.0 frame
    -Rockshox Pike 426 Coil U-turn
    -WTB Team Internal Cartridge Bearing Headset
    -Hope Pro II Disc hubs (20mm front) w/ Mavic XM819 wheels (ChainReactionCycles built)
    -Shimano XT Casette 9-speed M770
    -SRAM X.9 trigger shifters
    -X.9 medium cage rear derailleur
    -Shimano SLX Chainset Double M665 Hollowtech II
    -Shimano SLX front derailleur M665
    -07 Avid BB7 Disc Brakes 185mm F/R
    -Avid Speed Dial 7 levers
    -Thompson Elite Stem
    -Sette Duo Riser handlebar
    -Race Face Evolve DH seatpost
    -WTB Pure V saddle
    -SRAM PC991 chain

    Any tips/suggestions before I start my build? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. I will post pics when the bike is finished...

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    SD7 levers are good, but I like the feel of the Cane Creek direct curve levers with BB7s. Not a big deal though. Try to run full housing to the rear brake, in my experience this will help tremendously with keeping the cable nice and clean and improving brake feel. Ride that XLT like you stole it, the frame can take a lot.
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    ^^ Nice bike and view. Where is that? Here are the parts that I have on hand.



    I have the wheels, crank, front derailleur, seat, and shifters on the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510
    ^^ Nice bike and view. Where is that? Here are the parts that I have on hand. I have the wheels, crank, front derailleur, seat, and shifters on the way!
    That's the top of Mammoth, about to go down Skid Marks. Great summer riding. I like your build, I think you made the right choice on the Pure V saddle. I noticed a guy further up questioned twist shifters, but that's all I ever run. Have fun building it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasone510
    All parts have arrived or are now in a big brown truck!
    http://www.parktool.com/repair/

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