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    29+ Hardtail vs 27.5 + Hardtail - your winner ?

    Im 6 4 contemplating which is best ...

    And why ...

    The Stache is 29x3 ... is it too much tire ? Too much to lug uphill ?

    The Honzo & Cujo & SC Chameleon all do 27.5 + x 2.8 or 3.0 ....

    Has anyone here gone from 29+ to 27.5 and been happier ? Or Vice versa ?

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    You'll need to provide more information about your local terrain, riding style, and what qualities you desire in a bike.

    Being that your 6'4" I'd recommend big wheels and tires. I'm not a fan of small wheels, I've test ridden plenty. B+ tires are often small 2.8's and not very high volume. The 29+ wheels/tires are my favorite platform for fun. They roll over everything and hold momentum really well. I'm running 3.0" Maxxis Minions on 50mm rims.

    With geometry like the Stache, the bike will be anything but cumbersome. My Krampus is a blast to ride every time.
    Rigid SS 29er
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNatureBoy View Post
    Im 6 4 contemplating which is best ...

    And why ...

    The Stache is 29x3 ... is it too much tire ? Too much to lug uphill ?

    The Honzo & Cujo & SC Chameleon all do 27.5 + x 2.8 or 3.0 ....

    Has anyone here gone from 29+ to 27.5 and been happier ? Or Vice versa ?
    I have a HT that will do 27.5+, 29, and 29+. This is set-up single speed and here is my feelings
    27.5+ with 100mm fork. Nice, and plush, but slow to accelerate.
    29 with 100mm fork. Nice, light, snappy
    29+ with a rigid fork. Corners fast with lots of grip in the tires. Climbs techy stuff well since the pressures are so low and the roll over is good. Monster truck over rocky and loose stuff and for a SS keeping momentum is very important. Not as fast to accelerate as 29, but the rollover and cornering makes that less of a concern. Don't need to accelerate if you don't slow down. As for descending... With the rigid fork its alot more work to watch the front end and not bottom the wheel. Not as fast at least right now while I am learning how to deal with that. If I went suspension fork this bike would BOMB the descents superfast (at least for a HT). For XC racing however 29 might be faster due to acceleration and weight. I maintained overall weight on my bike moving from 29 to 29+. Lost weight on the rigid fork and gained it back on wheels and tires. I did it because I don't plan to race my SS and wanted to try something .

    I am 5'8" and know of guys 6'5"and 6'6" that love 29+ on SS and gears.
    Joe
    '18 Specialized Epic 29", Vassago Verhauen SS 29", '13 Santa Cruz Solo 27.5", XC, AM, blah blah blah.. I just ride.

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    Rocky downhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePAz View Post
    If I went suspension fork this bike would BOMB the descents superfast (at least for a HT).
    Yup, I have a 120mm Manitou Mattoc Pro and a 170mm dropper, it's hilarious. I can bomb descents with reckless abandon and it all works out OK. I can go over log piles like they're not even there. It makes me laugh every time.
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNatureBoy View Post
    Rocky downhill
    You asked about slow climbing and then describe your riding as rocky downhill. We're trying to help you, why don't you take a minute and give us a little more detail.

    Based solely on "rocky downhill" I would say a hardtail is not the right tool for the job. Some peoples description of "rocky" differs from others. Where do you live/ride?
    Rigid SS 29er
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    Stop asking how much it weighs and just go ride it.

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    West Jersey , lotta rocks but theres flow - downhill & climbing

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    Stache frame build with a Mattoc Pro fork. 470 is the longest reach.

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    I have a rigid 29+. It's awesome. I put a 29+ on the front of my full squish 27+ bike to make it more awesome.
    Stop in at Element Sports. www.elementsport.com
    Get Out! Have Fun!

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    Stache feels cramped 21.5 runs tight imo

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    Timberjack will fit a 29 x 3 Chupacabra just barely.491mm reach on a XL.
    https://salsacycles.com/bikes/timber...mberjack_frame
    https://forums.mtbr.com/salsa/timber...l#post12995627

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    ^^^ The TJ, Monkey, and other such frames ride really high when you install those big wheels and tires.

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