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    2019 Specialized Stumpjumper issue

    I just purchased a new Stumpjumper expert 29. After my 2nd ride I found a small rock wedged in between the frame and rear triangle pivot point. Because there is movement, it gouged the frame in this area. Its a small space but its large enough for debris to be deposited by the rear tire and collect in there. My concern is that this will continue to happen and can cause significant damage over time. There is a rubber piece in this area to keep debris out but it doesn't cover the entire opening. It seems like an oversight to me. I contacted Specialized customer support and included a picture soliciting a response but my concern was ignored. I never heard anything back after spending a pile of money on a new bike.
    Please! No responses about how it's a mountain bike and its going to get scratched etc. I get it. This just seems like a problem area. The pivot shouldn't act like a rock mill trying to crunch up stones on every ride. I'm going to try to upload a photo of this area.
    Has anyone else noticed this problem on the 2019 SJ?

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    Huh. That rear linkage seems almost as poorly designed as the SC lower link on my 2017 bronson, which seems designed to capture mud and dirt from the tire.

    You might consider cutting a tube up and using cable ties to make a little flap to cover that hole. See here. Also someone used a front fender and rigged it to cover the area, see here. Obviously these aren't specific to Specialized but they might give you some ideas.

    Anyway, from the looks of your photo, I don't think the damage is anything to worry about. Personally, I don't like the idea of fenders and other crap, so I just make sure I pay attention to the lower linkage and clean and service it regularly. It's a pain, but that's the deal with these high-performing, modern full suspension bikes, though some are worse than others.

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    Same issue with 17-18 enduros

    Some of the guys were sticking motocross foam in that area

    on the Stumpy it looks like Spesh knows that its a problem area for them

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    I'm not familiar with that frame design, I have the last generation Stumpy, but I know a popular option in the motocross world is to zip tie/stuff pieces of foam into places where you don't want mud and debris to collect. It doesn't inhibit the movement of any parts but prevents debris from collecting where you don't want it.

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    2019 SJ Carbon Comp ST 29...Funny, the other day i was on the trail, I just happened to look down at that area. A small rock caught my eye that was stuck in there. than i noticed that foam block they put in there. I almost ripped the foam block out thinking it was some form of shipping protection left on. It is now obvious what its doing there.

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    That doesn't look much different than my '17 Stumpjumper Expert frame. When it was brand new, I pulled the rear triangle and covered the surfaces with 3M Clear vinyl wrap. I did most the rest of the frame, too as I tend to do to most of my bikes.

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    Second that it is quite close on my 2016 Stumpjumper. Then again, many bikes have a gap where junk can fall in and scratch or damage the frame. If you wind up making a guard, check on a regular basis that mud and crap isn’t getting trapped. Sometimes guards can just trap smaller grit and dirt (remember fork boots) causing additional wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhammer View Post
    Sometimes guards can just trap smaller grit and dirt (remember fork boots) causing additional wear.
    This is the main reason I don't like installing guards. I might consider some sort of mud flap like the plastic fender things they sell, but I'm not into foam blocks or the like. I'd rather just try to keep the thing clean after a ride and regularly service the bearings. It is kind of annoying and high maintenance though, so I'm finding myself choosing the hard tail for muddier days.

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    I find that 3M mastic tape works well for protection in these areas.

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    me too

    I haven't found a rock wedged in there yet, but today I did find evidence that it happened on my last ride. You can see scratches on both sides of the black rubber piece. Reading here, it sounds like not much to do except put some protective tape on.

    Another thought: It looks like the black rubber piece is in that gap to keep debris out. But it's not quite big enough to fill the gap, so rocks are getting caught in there on either side of the rubber. Maybe a larger piece of rubber could be found to replace the existing one. Or perhaps I can find some small pads (like cabinet door bumpers, or something spongy) to stick on either side of the black rubber pad.

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    My Ibis Mojo HD had a similar issues. Rocks would settle on the link & get pressed/crushed into the frame.

    I bought a Lizard Skins leather(tectured rubber) chain stay protector & cut it to fit the rub area. Made sure to clean the area with rubbing alcohol prior to sticking it down. Worked well for a season & then I applied a second sticker as the old one was getting chewed up.

    Problem solved, no more chewed up carbon & no more rock crushing sounds.

    I'm sure specialized, like Ibis made that area out of super thick or solid carbon so you shouldn't have to worry about structural failure. It's just ugly.

    Since you have a pretty blue frame you might want to get the clear protector
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    Do you have a picture of your fix?

    The clear film would probably look better on my bike, but a bulkier tape might help keep the pebbles out of that crevice. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by eshew View Post
    My Ibis Mojo HD had a similar issues. Rocks would settle on the link & get pressed/crushed into the frame.

    I bought a Lizard Skins leather(tectured rubber) chain stay protector & cut it to fit the rub area. Made sure to clean the area with rubbing alcohol prior to sticking it down. Worked well for a season & then I applied a second sticker as the old one was getting chewed up.

    Problem solved, no more chewed up carbon & no more rock crushing sounds.

    I'm sure specialized, like Ibis made that area out of super thick or solid carbon so you shouldn't have to worry about structural failure. It's just ugly.

    Since you have a pretty blue frame you might want to get the clear protector

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    Yeah, I apologize for the dirt. I'd rather have the bike dirty than risk water infiltration into the bearings. That and I'm lazy, and it'll just get dirty again...
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    The dirt will keep the gravel out.

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    macguyer up a small plastic fender made of tough plastic
    similar to what some front forks have
    (use what comes as packaging for new mtb tires for example)
    zip tie it in front of the tire path
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    My Lizard Skin fix

    Here’s my attempt at a fix with Lizard Skins. Not elegant in appearance.

    I think the Lizard Skins should succeed in keeping gravel from getting lodged on either side of the black rubber pad, which was happening and actually chipped out a crater in the paint deeper down in that space.

    However, I may get more dirt and mud accumulation around that area near the pivot now, so I'll need to be regularly cleaning my bike after rides.
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    Pivot's solution:

    DW Link Protector

    They provided them free to Pivot owners for a while. Worked well on my 429 Trail.

    If it doesn't fit your bike you could probably make something similar from sticky-backed fabric

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    I urge you to cover that area because a small stone wedged in there can bust the bearing housing on a carbon frame over time - it happened to me a few years ago

    The above shown Pivot solution looks perfect IMO, it's better to just cover the gap instead of trying to entirely closing the gap with foam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Calf View Post
    I urge you to cover that area because a small stone wedged in there can bust the bearing housing on a carbon frame over time - it happened to me a few years ago

    The above shown Pivot solution looks perfect IMO, it's better to just cover the gap instead of trying to entirely closing the gap with foam
    I'd add that it can cut thru any material given enough time. I could have sworn there was a big thread about waterbottles and cable rub cutting thru frames whether it be carbon or alu, erosion is for real.

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    Ordered a SJ 29" Comp carbon, also ordered 1000mm x 1000mm x 2mm EPDM sheet with sticky backside, I will cut out forms of this and attach once my bike arrives. Ill put up some photos after that. Might take a week more before I receive the bike tho.

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    I bought the Pivot DW link protector online, but it doesn't fit that space well. Right now, I just have a piece of Gorilla tape, which is just duct tape, covering that space. I am surprised Specialized would design and sell a bike with such a vulnerability and not do anything about it.

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    I have an alloy 2019 Stumpjumper that I have been riding hard for the last 9 months and it is clear from the paint damage that the area in question gets lots of abuse. I always put helicopter tape on my bikes but never in this area as I've never experienced much rock damage there before. I've been ignoring it but will probably tape it up soon to try and protect from further damage.

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    a small thin plastic hobo fender 4 inches long or so...glued to the swingarm right in front of the tire
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    My quick fix

    I cut a piece of a cheap ebay fender and put it on with gorrilla 2 sided tape. It works great and was less than $20
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    I used a mucky nuts XL fender on the rear. I did cut new holes in it to get it low enough but it seems to help keep the crud out of there.

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    This is what I did on my DW link, it stays in place great and prevents stuff from going down there.

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    Here is what Forbidden did on the Druid:






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    Quote Originally Posted by Narrowback View Post
    I used a mucky nuts XL fender on the rear. I did cut new holes in it to get it low enough but it seems to help keep the crud out of there.

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    Do you have more pictures (alternate angles) of that setup? I'd really like to do the same, this would make cleaning so much faster and reduce the amount of grime splashed in the pivot bearing.

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    I don't know if these will help you or not. I can take better pictures if you tell me what you are looking to see. These were before I cut new holes to lower it enough so that it stayed below the pivot. If you do cut new holes, I would suggest heating up whatever you use. I used a small chisel with a hammer and it cracked it a little. But I think if it was hot, it would just melt holes into it. I cut 4 new ones just below the original ones.

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    This is what the XL looks like. I cut 4 new holes spaced about the same, just below the ones in the black. HTH

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    Thats why you dont buy bikes from hokey fly-by-night companies like specialized!



    They're cramming chainstays so short these days. I'm not complaining, I like my short stays but they're, well, short. Ends up being a gravel trap. Its all in the name of compactness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narrowback View Post
    I don't know if these will help you or not. I can take better pictures if you tell me what you are looking to see. These were before I cut new holes to lower it enough so that it stayed below the pivot. If you do cut new holes, I would suggest heating up whatever you use. I used a small chisel with a hammer and it cracked it a little. But I think if it was hot, it would just melt holes into it. I cut 4 new ones just below the original ones.

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    This is what the XL looks like. I cut 4 new holes spaced about the same, just below the ones in the black. HTH

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    I'm trying to see how you mounted the thing exactly - where you attached the straps and thought what holes they go.

    What size is your bike?

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    Mine is a large ST. If you look at the top link of your rear suspension you'll see there is a bracket that connects the 2 sides. You bend the fender in so that the 2 sides attach to the arms and the holes in the black portion of the fender attach to that bracket. These pictures may help.

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    This stock picture is upside down, you need to flip the fender over so that the holes line up with the bracket. 2019 Specialized Stumpjumper issue-fe0213.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narrowback View Post
    Mine is a large ST. If you look at the top link of your rear suspension you'll see there is a bracket that connects the 2 sides. You bend the fender in so that the 2 sides attach to the arms and the holes in the black portion of the fender attach to that bracket. These pictures may help.

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    Much appreciated, I have one on the way

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    Sure thing. It has made a big difference this spring.

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