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    Iditarod Trail Invitational Start

    The first seven miles of the course were bomb-proof - check out:

    http://www.alaskaultrasport.com/latest_news.html

    To put it in perspective - I stopped to spectate at Seven Mile lake and PeteB, JayP and some other "fast movers" were there in 35 minutes...

    There are great resources for following this race - yet I couldn't resist posting a few photos from the race of some of the celebrities on this forum: The Samba Line led by Bob Lisey - number 7 in this photo. Geoff and Jilleo - almost didn't get her pic - she was really moving.

    And as a bonus: Mikesee - the Northern route record holder (15 Days 1 Hour and 15 minutes) started his no support ride to Nome today - check out his rig- and follow him here:

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    Back up a little on his blog and see that Scott, who brought us Topofusion, is following his trip with some cool new technology.

    And finally - got back to Knik lake and this little muskrat was busy chomping grass. It is February in Alaska an this endearing little rodent was pulling grass to his little beaver teeth with his skinny little paws... salad is good when you prematurely come out of hibernation.

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    cool shots Tony

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    Gorgeous ride out to cheer people on with Mesotony and Broken Toe. We could've kept going, and going, and going... but alas, we could not.

    Peter was setting the pace with a bunch of Klingons hanging onto his wheel.

    That little muskrat was just about the cutest thing I've ever seen! Aside from Wildfire's little Fat Bikes, that is!

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    tough luck for Pete

    Just got off the phone with Pete. They got to Skwentna even faster than last year, but he broke a pedal and will have to wait overnight until a new one arrives in the AM.
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    wow! keep the updates coming. good stuff.

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    Great shots. I am very relieved to see they had nice weather and good trail conditions for the start. Good luck out there, folks, and be safe! I'm rooting for everyone!

    Quick question: does anyone know of a good resource online that shows the route in better detail than the map on the AK Ultrasport website? A Google Earth shape file perhaps? Anything of the sort? TIA.
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    That sucks big time about Pete! Greg- any idea what he broke? its just a platform...

    Tscheezy - this is a little better...
    http://www.iditarod.com/flashmap/

    I bet Scott on MC's site will have something good in time.

    I put a few photos here:
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    On the trail yesterday Mike was guessing that the leaders would reach Skweetna before 11:00 last night and looks like they did!

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    Wow!

    Looks like the good conditions are making for a fast and competitive race.

    Wishing happy trails to all!

    Here is to hoping everyone comes back safely, with tales of great adventures........(and all their fingers and toes)!

    Bummer about Pete's pedal. Seems like a pretty random mechanical. I bet he'll still be able to turn in a respectably fast time, inspite of the delay....Go Pete!

    Thanks for pics everyone.....keep 'em coming, please.

    There are a few more shots here: www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]

    ......of course this one's my favorite, so far:

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    new pedals on the way

    [QUOTE=Bearbait]That sucks big time about Pete! Greg- any idea what he broke? its just a platform...

    It was a quick conversation late at night, so I'm not sure, but it seems like he broke the spindle on the outside of the pedal. Spernak Air delivers mail there about 10AM. He should be putting the new set on as I write at 10:30. His spirits were high since he decided to go to Nome, there is plenty of time to catch up. He will be well rested. Give 'em hell, Pete.
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    Where's the trailer?

    I thought mikesee was going to use that supercool Ti trailer?

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    I wonder what happened to Jeff and Tim last night? seemed like they were getting the jump but were late into Finger.

    Carl is setting a fast pace as usual..

    Jill also made a quick turnaround as swell at Skweetna

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHpug
    I thought mikesee was going to use that supercool Ti trailer?
    That trailer looked a lot cooler than it rode. Mike said max speed on dry pavement was 8mph, so it will probably make a nice museum piece. He did have a new Moots that was beautifully done. Good luck on him.
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    Checked out the scene at the start yesterday and it was cool. The flavor was somewhere between a bad - - - convention and an insane asylum picnic. Rode out on the course with Queen Bee and Mesotony and cheered on the participants as they rolled across Seven Mile lake. Blue sky, warms temps, hardly any wind, rock solid trail and mountain vistas. The first 6 or so riders came across the lake in a pack train all sporting large grins. Mike and his Nome unsupported Moots two gallon fuel tanker (no smoking within 100 feet) pack bike came rolling along later. Best wishes to the participants. BTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHpug
    I thought mikesee was going to use that supercool Ti trailer?
    in his own words it was something like "...100mm rims... the tire fits...I need a new bike... I think I can do this without a trailer..."

    ok, not a very good quote but you get the idea.

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    back on track

    Just got off the phone with Katie at Skwentna. Pete got the new pedals and was back on the trail at 10:28. Got to keep keepin' on.
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    from mountainboat's photos. what kind of frame is that guy running? looks like an aluminum snowbike?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach
    from mountainboat's photos. what kind of frame is that guy running? looks like an aluminum snowbike?

    Hey Sean,

    Those aren't my photos. They are the photos from the Iditarod Flickr site.....I'm armchairing this one from sunny California.

    I tried to view the photos from the AKU site, but didn't see anything. Any one else have that problem.......might just be my outdated Mac browser.

    I don't know Bill, or the bike he's riding, but the name of the bike seems to be the same as the one emblazoned on his frame bag and jacket.

    That is rad Pete is riding to Nome! Plenty of days to make up some time. Lots o rabbits to chase too.
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    Its been too quiet on here!
    I'm too excited over this so here are some photos from the trail in 2005:

    Approaching Finger Lake,
    Rolling trail en route to Puntilla,
    Puntilla Lake,
    Starting the approach up the Happy Valley to Rainy Pass
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    Looks like Pete dropped the Hammer and made up some serious time! Go Pete!
    Should be intersting to see how Rainy Pass plays out...

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    he certainly did. pretty impressive. it'll be interesting to see how this surge plays out over the 1100.

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    Now it should get REALLY interesting. It sounds as if there is not much of a trail, if any, over Rainey Pass so maybe the decision to go through Hell's Gate will be an easy one. But 33 extra miles...ouch.
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    Go Pete Go........... Looks like he made up the time and made it into Puntilla with the lead pack. An impresive surge for sure.

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    beautiful shots Bearbait

    As a lifelong Alaskan (for the mostpart) I get used to the scenery, but seeing those shots just might start something for me. Of course, post holing in a ground blizzard, it might look a LITTLE bit different. Pete had to put in a surge to close the gap, but he also got a good 8 hours of rest that nobody else did. My money is on him. If they have to push, his speed is a bit faster than most-my guess is quite a bit faster than Jay because of the height difference. Anyody know anything about Leavesley?
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    James is a 24hour racer from the UK.
    He won Straphpuffer this year in January in Scotland beating Carl for one.

    He just goes and goes and goes. Not the fastest (ie the ex pro xc racers will distance him in long but not too long a race.

    I wouldn't think he'll tire much but then I doubt any of the front runners will.

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    The trail must be great..

    Looks like good trail. The times to finger are smokin' with a lot of folks getting there in less than 24 hours and the rest (so far) coming in at right around the 24hr mark. Wow!!

    Its real hard to watch this and not be out there

    What an exciting race.

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    yeah, getting into Puntilla in 28 hours is sick, its 160 miles, with loaded bikes and big tires. The 30 mile section beteen finger and there is really hard with lots of steep (walking and pushing up) climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearbait
    yeah, getting into Puntilla in 28 hours is sick, its 160 miles, with loaded bikes and big tires. The 30 mile section beteen finger and there is really hard with lots of steep (walking and pushing up) climbs.

    Yeah that's the thing even with good trail its no walk in the park. Its not just good trail but a really strong field of racers out there. If the trail is good after the pass, man this will be a banner year.

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    knew i reconised the name

    Quote Originally Posted by TomL
    James is a 24hour racer from the UK.
    He won Straphpuffer this year in January in Scotland beating Carl for one.

    He just goes and goes and goes. Not the fastest (ie the ex pro xc racers will distance him in long but not too long a race.

    I wouldn't think he'll tire much but then I doubt any of the front runners will.

    heh! strathpuffer this year was pretty hard. its doubtful it'll run again, and he did a pretty superhuman ride....ill be watching this even closer now....good luck all
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    Photos

    Jill Homer and Dave Hart at the start
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    Air photos

    I had these so thought I'd post them too:
    The Dazell gorge and the Rainy pass area..
    and one more coming into Rohn on the River after the gorge
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    great photos eric! i really like the first two of the dog teams on the river.



    sucks about hiromune!! he was awesome. is he dropping out due to getting lost or something else?

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    9 racers reach Rohn

    9 racers have reached the Rohn checkpoint ahead of the checkers. It's unknown who they are, but you can guess. Geoff Roes had to scratch due to a bad ankle.
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    more start photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork
    9 racers have reached the Rohn checkpoint ahead of the checkers. It's unknown who they are, but you can guess. Geoff Roes had to scratch due to a bad ankle.
    Bummer about G!
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    who's out?

    So with 9 racers into Rohn, who was dropped? There were 10 frontrunners in Jay, Carl, James,Jeff, Tim, Rocky, Pete, Dave, Jacque, and Phil, with Brij and Jill not too far behind them (about 4.5 hours.) Any thoughts? I am pretty amazed that Jill is right in the thick of it all. Way to go Jill! Let's all hope for the best with Mike C's adventure. I'd hate to think he might have to push that beast up onto the side slopes to avoid overflow.
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    I wonder if everyone went over Rainey Pass or if anyone went around? Pushing a loaded bike along a side hill to avoid open water sounds brutal.

    Should the trail get better again beyond Rohn?
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    They went over the pass - the Hells Gate route avoids the gorge where they were spotted.

    yeah open water...

    I updated the leaderboard on sleepmonsters, its a little slicker than the table on the race site, Check it out
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    moving along the virtual tour with the racers,
    grab that armchair...

    On the Kusko, egypt mtn in the distance.
    the post river "glacier"
    open creek somewhere near the farewell lakes
    north side of the Alaska range 15-20 miles from Bufallo camp
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    Jay P in first

    Jay Petervary is first into Nicolai. No other news reported.
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    I can barely keep up!

    last batch of photos - I promise...
    leaving the burn, on the Kusko and finally Mcgrath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearbait
    last batch of photos - I promise...
    leaving the burn, on the Kusko and finally Mcgrath
    Sweet pictures Eric. That first one on this page is in the river on the way into Rohn right? Almost to the checkpoint snaking through the trees but not quite there yet? I remember that one in '05 I was falling asleep on my bike rolling along and dozing off and I almost rode right into it, just mindlessly plowing along then POW I'm wide awake and almost in need of new shorts.

    These folks are moving so fast this year I haven't even had time to dig through my photos.

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    Adam, yes thats the broken bridge that scared everyone in the gorge. I dont know how you were falling asleep in that section - I was so amped up and freaked you could have pluged me in.

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    Jay P is 1st!

    Jay Petervary has made it to Mcgrath in 3 days 14 hours and 20 minutes. Congrats Jay. Hope your belly is full and you are asleep at this moment.
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    Wow! This is so exciting i can't go to bed. Amazing stuff!

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    latest update

    Got an email from Pete. He ended up braking yet another pedal (of a different brand than the first) and had two broken chains. Have you been hanging out with Skimonkey, Pete? But even worse than both of those is he got sick. What a drag. Still in there all things considered. Waiting on trail reports before taking off.
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    Masher Indeed

    Hey, come on! I've never broken a pedal, let alone 2. Brake levers sure, but pedals no. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

    I think he was trying to add a little variety into this year's race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirstywork
    Got an email from Pete. He ended up braking yet another pedal (of a different brand than the first) and had two broken chains. Have you been hanging out with Skimonkey, Pete? But even worse than both of those is he got sick. What a drag. Still in there all things considered. Waiting on trail reports before taking off.
    sounds like pete needs to find a new mechanic

    2 pedals, 2 chains, a sickness, and he's still going to be heading out of mcgrath with the lead group. F-ing A.

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    The question to ask is, what kind of pedals does the Energizer Bunny use?

    Mount a pair of those bad boys and you'll be unstoppable.

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    Racers off

    I just got off the phone with Peter S. in Mcgrath and all racers heading to Nome have left. I guess there must be enough snowmachine traffic to get them to Takotna. From there hope for the best with the Irondog trail maybe?
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    Jill's In!

    Sweet Job JIll!!!

    http://www.alaskaultrasport.com/results.html

    D'oh...Mike's in too! Way to rock you guys!
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    Way to go Jill. Look forward to hearing your take.
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    good ride jill!

    can't wait till more racers start putting their photos online.

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    Great Job Jill!
    was happy to read that you were smiling in McGrath.

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    Whew! Mike's back at it.

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    Curious as to why Mike isn't playing the same game as others?

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    You guys and gals rock

    As an online spectator in the lower 48, my hat is off to every racer who participates in this incredibly grueling event. It is truly legendary, epic stuff -- bravo to you all and thanks to all for sharing your photos and experiences. They are great stories of human will, perseverance, and triumph.

    Ride on you crazy diamonds...

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    Here's a few more. Jeff O. took these. I'm not real wordy. It was long, it was hard, it was fun.
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    Nice photos Tim, especially your slush river photo. Great to meet you, Jeff and all the other racers on the trail this year. Congrats to a job well done. Dave

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    The doggies and mushers are rip-snorting their way through those sections in the gorge right now. How do they deal with the narrow side-hilling above open water? Do they just go really slow and the musher postholes below the sled on the downhill side to keep it upright? This is the first time I've paid attention to the Dalzell Gorge pics, and I'm a bit surprised to see the conditions.

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    i wonder if they can just lean out to the uphill side to keep it upright?

    i'm kinda going through withdrawl here with seeing updates. mcgrath to ruby is too far for us spectators to bear...

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    gorge by sled

    I've only been through there once by dog team. The Iditarod trail breakers do a pretty amazing job of making a drivable trail through there. There were even a couple of man made black spruce bridges.You have to stand with both feet on the uphill runner in many sections to keep from getting dropped into that creek... it's like a sadistic slalom driving test. I hope it is ridable next year!

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    woohoo!

    jay, pete, rocky and carl into ruby.

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    Racers into Galena

    Pete, Carl, Jay, and Rocky made it into Galena last night and reported the worst possible trail conditions, sometimes no trail at all. 40* temps. Jay is not feeling well. He may have drank some tainted water. Hoping for the best on that one Jay. Phil from Nome had to scratch due to the fact that he couldn't get his swollen feet into his boots. Can you imagine what they've been going through? It's got to get better with the dogs passing them.
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    Bummer about Phil. What can someone do to keep the swelling down on long stuff like that?

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    32 Hours for the strong-men of the race to travel the 52 miles from Ruby to Galena is absolutely brutal. Although the Iditarod Trail Breaker has passed them, the warm temps are not helping them out. I would think it will take a drop in temps to set the trail up and make it firm...but at least they will have a trail to follow now.
    These guys have my utmost respect for slogging on in those conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowgirlonwheels
    Bummer about Phil. What can someone do to keep the swelling down on long stuff like that?
    Maui is one thing that comes to mind. I think no matter what meds you might have, spending that much time on foot post holing, your feet will swell. Time and rest seems to be the only cure. Of course, being on the bike would help tons.
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    -40 last year, +40 this year. Those poor bastards can't win.
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    really impressive stuff. i couldn't imagine what it takes to persevere through that.

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    horrible conditions

    I just read that Pete has decided to throw in the towel. There was no further info other than what he said last night. The last leg saw an average speed of about 2mph, with only the first few miles rideable. Nice job of making it this far in about the worst possible conditions.
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    Jay out too

    Wow. It must be bad for both Pete and Jay to scratch. Though Joe Polk (mtbcast.com) wasn't so sure if Pete had scratched or not. His call in (already posted) just says he and Carl are looking at options.
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    it feels kinda weird to be in a race!!!!!!! and post on a forum.
    news is what most know,theres no trail out there.its so warm and its snowed so much coupled with the wind that you can barely find one and to push through deep snow for 22 hours like i did yesterday is just no fun.update is we havent seen jay in nulato and its a hard place to miss the arrival of a biker.my guess is jay is still sick and most definately sick of pushing.pete b is already thinking of the lower 48 move and pushing for another 130 miles has no appeal and even then the coast might bring some surprises of more pushing.for me its a long way to come to AK. and i want to make front street nome.im hanging here waiting for at least 3 mushers to leave and some tv crews and i should have a trail to walk on.
    its a shame that it has come to this but its really no fun here.maybe with some rideable trails on the bering coast all this pushing might dilute itself and make the overall experience more of a fun one.
    i just hope my body stays together to make the coast.pete b is currently waiting for a plane that doesnt seem to be happening.no idea what happened to rocky,maybe i still have a biker to race.

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    get it done carl!

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    Sooo...based on the Ultrasport page, Pete is a Scratch....wait....un-scratch??? Based on my experience (ok, so it was high school soccer), it is much more difficult to quit than to un-quit. I could totally see him changing his mind and getting back in the game. Especially if he's got at least one other person in that same situation that is pushing him (carl). Armchair quarterback says "Stick with it!!!"

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    Wow ... exciting stuff going on in the race to Nome. Nobody, not even convicted terrorists, should have to be subjected to that much bike pushing in soft snow, so I really respect all the guys for sticking it out as long as they did. Go Pete and Carl! And go Bill and Kathi. I had the good fortune of spending a whole evening with Kathi in McGrath. Her positive attitude is infectious. She is going to be the first woman cyclist to Nome, whether this year or whenever.

    So I typed up a really long race-to-McGrath report on my blog. For anyone on this forum who is interested, the links are here:

    Day OneDay Two
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    Pete's on Iditarod.com

    If you're an Iditarod geek like me and have subscribed to 'Iditarod Insider', you can view a video of Pete in Kaltag. It's only about a minute long. The video is titled 'Iditabike'.

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    Go Carl!!!

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    I took these last year from the Jet flying to Nome right around this time.
    its a cool view of the Kaltag Portage and the coast:
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    in Unalakleet this morning.
    Actually rode here!!
    We are a totally freak show out here, but people have been really positive towards both Carl and I, going out of their way to help.
    On the way to the next town soon.
    Might be slow going with some major hills and wind drifts.
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    Go Pete go!

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    Yeah! Keep it rolling Pete. Thanks for checking in.
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    Hell Yeah Pete! go go!!

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    kick @ss pete. keep the freak show rolling.

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    way to go pete!

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    we are in shaktoolik.got here today at 8am ish,was real hard crossing the blueberry hills,we pushed alot because of the windswept trail.im eating and pete is sleeping,hes such a lightweight,i dont know,youngsters i guess,actually hes so strong its kinda depressing to witness it every day,we will leave pm today,around 4 ish.we both really dont want to push across the sea ice,lets hope theres a decent trail.....nome by friday i guess


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    Thanks to Carl

    Peter is young and strong, but it is Carl's maturity and Big Picture Perspective that will get both of you to Nome. Thanks, Carl.

    Jill's writing skills bring this race home in an incredible way. Thanks, Jill.

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    Ride On

    Everyone is pulling for you. Keep at it.

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    Good Job guys

    Great to hear from you. Its awesome that you guys waited out the weather and are back underway.

    Hope things keep getting better.

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    I'm wondering if towing a sled would make sense for the bikes.

    It seems like it would make the bike easier to control, easier to disassemble for stream crossings, easier to pack/unpack, allow the bike to float more...

    Has anybody tried it out to prove me wrong?

    How much weight are these guys packing?

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    people that have tried sleds learn the hard way

    http://adventure.mountainzone.com/2005/alaskaultra/

    he hated it...

    cons- way more drag, harder to control, horriable handeling on climbs and descents, more things to break, more difficuilt to access than bike mounted gear.

    pro's- more float, in the right conditions maybe.

    total bikes weigh 50-70 lbs

    stamstad and Norwill used trailers mounted with skis one year, maybe one of the elders here can comment on how that worked for them.

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    bike weight

    My complete 2008 Ultrasport bike setup weighed 58#, excluding water. It was one of the heavier setups among the top dozen finishers. Most folks went with lesser bivy gear and saved weight there. Pulling a sled behind me would be nothing short of a complete kluster, other than possibly on some of the flat river sections. With the invention of the EPIC frame bags and some of the nice front and rear racks available, there's no reason to use any other method to carry gear unless you're doing a Curiak-esque transcontinental crossing. Even then...

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    My husband pulled a sled when we went to McGrath. It was sheer hell.

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    huge thanks for the support

    when pete weighed his bike to send back to anc with northern air cargo it was close to 70 pounds.

    thanks to everyone that looked in on us out there.i was falling asleep on the bike riding over cape nome.i kept riding off the trail into deep snow and waking up.it was a huge relief to make front street and i had a message for me to phone phil who came out to collect me at 2.30 am in the morning and offered me his couch to sleep on.i cant describe what that meant to me so many thanks phil.phils still finding walking difficult since stopping his race at ruby.
    respect to all the racers still out there.it looks like some bad weather brewing on the bering sea.i hope they make it through okay.

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    great job carl, rest up!

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    Yeah yeah--I'm late to the party as usual.

    Took a short vid of the start and thought y'all might like to see it.

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    (getting off topic a bit) Haven't followed any of these yet but I was looking at the second picture and got wondering is that duct tape on a hydration pack? what the hell is that also what are the surly builds? looks like the brakes are normal Avid but are they using special cold weather lube???? so many questions the bikes all look awsome!!!

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    I'm the idiot who wrapped duct tape around my Camelbak tube. It's holding together a thick layer of your standard reflective bubble insulation, with the idea that heavy insulation might fend off ice buildup in the tube. And for the record, it doesn't work. I knew that going in, but I was too lazy to tear it all off.

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    Oh ok I thought it was a camel bak at first but had doubts. Well if you want to insulate the tube I would recommend those heat packs that you can heat up and put on your muscles except use only one... and put it near the center of the tube when its warm that way the heat transfer is both positive and negative along the tubes lenght (the spot where the pack is placed is called 0 so positive would be leading toward the hydration pack and negative of course would run down the tube) and warp it within the bubble wrap and duct tape the whole thing up the bubble wrap would serve as a thermos keeping the heat from leaving to quickly...


    DISCLAIMER I HAVE [U]NOT [U] TRIED THIS BUT IT SEEMS IT WOULD WORK BETTER THAN PLAIN BUBBLE WRAP

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    that would work great till the heat 'sticker' ran out. then you would have to unwrap all that duck tape to access it and peel/replace it... it's not a bad idea though, just needs access.

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    I would have just drank Everclear. I don't think that would freeze up.

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    just keep the hose in your jacket and unzip a few inches for a drink. what is the big deal?

    and by the way - Go Bill, Go Kathi, Go Tim, Go Jose!

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    Yeah Bill, Kathi, Tim and Jose!

    ... Never got that whole jacket thing to work for me. In Juneau where it never drops below 31.5 degrees, had the pack buried in three layers and still froze the neoprene-wrapped hose (not the nozzle. The hose, near the shoulder.) Then I bought a new one and same thing. I think I'm cursed.

    Do pre-frozen chemical warmers even work below about 10 degrees? I'm skeptical.

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    "Do pre-frozen chemical warmers even work below about 10 degrees?"

    good question...Its going to be a while before I can test that out. See ya at the Soggy?
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    Camelbak Tips

    Route the hose out the bottom of the pack, not out the top.
    Never route the hose over your shoulder, always under your armpit.
    Coil the hose and keep it tucked under your armpit (this assumes you have a valve that doesn't leak).
    Handwarmers do not work--exposed to too much oxygen they "flame out" quickly. Even if they did work you'd have a lot of extra weight to carry with the extra hand warmers.
    Don't insulate the tube--you can't see where it's frozen; if it is frozen you know where to work on it to get it thawed.
    Blow back into the hose after drinking.

    You can lower your race anxiety by choosing a different method altogether.

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    Everclear works well...

    Just a few shots in with your drinking water really lowers the freezing point (both yours and the water's). Just kidding, actually.

    I am a reformed camelback user after one leaked all over my back at -10 plus many frozen drinking tubes. The darn things will freeze even under your inner layer against your skin. Nalgene bottles with insulated covers will keep water from freezing all day if you start out with warm water but you do have to stop and dig out the bottle to get a drink. Beats having to stop and thaw out your drinking tube.
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    Handlebar mounted OR insulated

    I'm partial to handlebar mounted OR insulated Nalgene carriers. Keeps weight off your back, no frozen tubes, no surprises running out of fluid. Stopping for a few seconds to take a sip is no big deal. Only drawback is boiling water starts to slush over after 5-6 hours at -30F. This limits your total time before having to melt more water. Or, bury one bottle in your insulated jacket and pull it out when the first one is empty.
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    Iam not talking about hand warmers Iam talking about the heated pack that you use for muscle strains... I forgot the name but this pack only requires you pack one and heat it up about once every few hours on the trail (I did this yesterday out on the trails Tour of Anchorage I think) except I didn't use bubble wrap. packing the camelbak inside your jacket may work but Then you'd look like the Hunch back of Notre Dam hand warmers are bad for the reason stated that they could be exposed easily. I would keep writing but I have a life unlike the ones that spend hours on here (you know who you are)

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    kathi and bill are in! congrats folks!

    **Kathi Hirzinger-Merchant 25 days 12 hours 58 minutes**

    ** Bill Merchant 25 days 12 hours 58 minutes **

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    Dave, off the front works good too...
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    congratulations Bill and Kathi
    Im sure Bill if you ask Mike he can get you a moots zimmer frame welded up,you surely must need it.

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    less than 200 miles now for jose. that guy's a trooper.

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    he's scratched. good on him not only for having the moxie to trudge on through injury, but the wisdom to stop when he knew it was too much.

    then again, pete "scratched" halfway between mcgrath and nome.... i guess we shouldn't believe he's scratched till he's on a plane.

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