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    Introducing the Airborne Seeker 29er

    We are pleased to introduce the new Airborne Seeker 29er!~ For those of you who have been asking for a bike that slots between the Guardian and Goblin, we've listened to your request!

    For more info, check out: Airborne Bicycles. Seeker

    Thanks!

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    Also announced Guardian trade-up program! Seriously though this bike looks amazing and will definitely be looking at it come upgrade time this winter. Keep up the great work down there in Ohio (even though it's Ohio...)

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    BDF, it looks great! Really nice colors and specs.

    The Airborne folks have another great looking bike in their stable.

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    Geez, the 'seeker' lol, sounds like a cheap chinese car, or an old ladies or chicks bike, surely thats not the best airborne could come up with ?

    But credit where credits due, great looking bike, love the classy colours, nice work Airborne, but please come and see me before you name another bike I'll give you a real name for free.
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    Introducing the Airborne Seeker 29er

    Would ya look at that? Great looking bike guys!

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    Ordered!


    They said I was the 1st to order! not sure if that is 100% true or not, but it makes me feel good about it.
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    now i have to wait a month, but I don't have to worry about which color I want

    Nothing out there touches this on specs. $1029 for us hawaii residents, but what a bike. I like the recon gold fork. I like the X5 2x10 drivetrain, I have a X9 3x10 drivetrain that i have left over from my XTC 29er build (when i decided on the X0 drivetrain) and may keep it for back up or sell it to help fund this purchase. Love the paint scheme.

    This was a no brainer. I liked the Cobia, but no bike shop stock them regularly and wouldn't discount anything to order it, so for what is over $300 cheaper then what I can get a cobia ordered and shipped here for I get a better fork and an amazing looking bike.

    Truly nothing comes close to this for $200 more money then this.
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    Congrats!

    As always, please upload pics before, during, and after assembly.

    Hopefully, the wait will pass quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Geez, the 'seeker' lol, sounds like a cheap chinese car, or an old ladies or chicks bike, surely thats not the best airborne could come up with ?

    But credit where credits due, great looking bike, love the classy colours, nice work Airborne, but please come and see me before you name another bike I'll give you a real name for free.
    I like the name... seems perfect for a ht. Man wish I could afford this bike. Sweet looking ride. Not sure if I would like a 29'r being only 5'3 but it still seems awesome.
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    Nice looking bike! Wish this option was available when I ordered my Guardian and fumbled around with upgrades, but you live and learn! Looks like you have got one of the best bikes under $1000 on the market!

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    Hi guys,

    I spoke to Eric in theOhio office and he spent a lot of time with me over the phone (Thanks Eric!) and help convince me to go the Goblin route. I have been on one Mountain bike trip and It was a huge jump from the Guardian but I knew for the price and components it would be worth it. This morning I found out that the Seeker was going to be released on the market. I am now wondering if I made the right decision. My research has shown that the Goblin pound-pound is priced well and has better components. I am fairly new to MTB'ing but I pick things up quick and my best friend is a hard core MTB'r. I guess my question is, it was apparent that I would outgrow the Guardian, but would i have out grown the Seeker ?

    I am sorry, I didn't realize there was an in between bike when I spoke to Eric. My buddy still says i should stick with the Goblin. I guess I just need a lil assurance I did the right thing. Some things to consider:

    1) The most I can ride in the mountains is 1 x per week, cross country and single tracks
    2) I will be doing 2-3 times of riding per week going to work or the gym (2-3 miles one way)

    if someone could get back to me I would appreciate it.

    P.S. What's making it so hard for me is that the new color scheme on Seeker is Sick!!!!!

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    Oh wow. I was thinking about pulling the trigger on a Guardian 2.0 but I think I'm gonna have to reconsider. Is Airborne going to offer free shipping on the initial run of these bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    Hi guys,

    I spoke to Eric in theOhio office and he spent a lot of time with me over the phone (Thanks Eric!) and help convince me to go the Goblin route. I have been on one Mountain bike trip and It was a huge jump from the Guardian but I knew for the price and components it would be worth it. This morning I found out that the Seeker was going to be released on the market. I am now wondering if I made the right decision. My research has shown that the Goblin pound-pound is priced well and has better components. I am fairly new to MTB'ing but I pick things up quick and my best friend is a hard core MTB'r. I guess my question is, it was apparent that I would outgrow the Guardian, but would i have out grown the Seeker ?

    I am sorry, I didn't realize there was an in between bike when I spoke to Eric. My buddy still says i should stick with the Goblin. I guess I just need a lil assurance I did the right thing. Some things to consider:

    1) The most I can ride in the mountains is 1 x per week, cross country and single tracks
    2) I will be doing 2-3 times of riding per week going to work or the gym (2-3 miles one way)

    if someone could get back to me I would appreciate it.

    P.S. What's making it so hard for me is that the new color scheme on Seeker is Sick!!!!!
    The Goblin is still a better bike in almost every area than the Seeker, so if you can afford it, I'd stick to that decision. If your budget is tight and you still need to buy a helmet, pedals, and other bike accessories, then I'd go with the Seeker.

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    Glamdring - Either bike will work for what you describe.

    The way I would look at it is the amount of money you want to spend. The biggest difference between Seeker and Goblin will be the drive train. The X5s will work just fine for most riding. The X7s are going to shift crisper, be a little lighter, and just be a little higher quality.

    In my opinion, the riding you describe sounds like the Seeker would work great for. If you we're more avid about riding off road then I would lean more towards the Goblin.

    Both are great bikes. Goblin will be a little better.

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    dang thats a real nice paint job

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    Thanks Gents for the replies. I can afford the Goblin, I just wanted to know if it was overkill ( plus the new Seeker looks sick). I just didnt know whether or not I could tell the difference? I did borrow an old Giant 26er for a week and I outgrew it quick. I guess for the $270 difference, it will be worth it every time i sit on the bike.

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    Good specs. Slap a better wheelset and better tires(those tires are only good in perfect conditions) and you have a great bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    Thanks Gents for the replies. I can afford the Goblin, I just wanted to know if it was overkill ( plus the new Seeker looks sick). I just didnt know whether or not I could tell the difference? I did borrow an old Giant 26er for a week and I outgrew it quick. I guess for the $270 difference, it will be worth it every time i sit on the bike.
    The number 1 rule of purchasing a bike is to always buy the most bike you can afford. So, stick with the Goblin.

    That Seeker is a great looking bike. I like the name, the look and the specs. Excellent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffharris1us View Post
    Congrats!

    As always, please upload pics before, during, and after assembly.

    Hopefully, the wait will pass quickly.
    I will do just that, but we need to ban all conversation about the new seeker. I figure if we don't talk about it the month wait will be easier.

    Man I am really enjoying the paint scheme.

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    Ranger Mac- you said it right...that paint scheme is siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick!

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    Thanks!

    No plans on offering a free freight deal on this one. We think its such a smoking good price on a great bike already that we aren't dropping the freight charge. We aren't getting rich on this spec at this price and gotta keep the lights on and the doors open, errr, website turned on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barheet View Post
    The number 1 rule of purchasing a bike is to always buy the most bike you can afford. So, stick with the Goblin.

    That Seeker is a great looking bike. I like the name, the look and the specs. Excellent!
    Thanks!

    I agree with the "buy the most bike you can afford" comment.

    Someone a few weeks ago on here made a funny comment that I will always remember:

    ""I wish I would have bought less bike"....said no one ever."

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    Weeeeellllll that sucks. I would've definitely bought the Seeker rather than the Guardian, specifically for the fork and 2x10 drivetrain. Oh wellz, can't win them all. I guess I'll be using the extra $300 at some point for a better fork (I did just upgrade the XC28 with a firmer spring, at least).

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    BigDaddy, I know you are working it, but when can we expect some additional photos of the seeker and new guardian?

    I need some more to hold me over for the next 5 weeks. Man it seems like a long time when you right it out.

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    Well the addition of this bike to the stable has made my decision making that much harder!

    My current MTB, that has street tires on it and a Biopace crankset (think 1988), has got to go. Not only have bikes come a long long way since I was in college but my body has gone a long way as well. I'm riding a hybrid for getting into shape on the streets and the veloway near my house but this summer we are getting our 12 y.o twins new hardtails for their bday so if I want to keep up with them, I am going to need a new bike.

    I started thinking the Guardian would be my best bet but since I am 215 and 5'10" (shooting for 200 by end of summer and 185 eventually), I think I need something beefier and the Seeker has my total attention. Of course, now that I am looking at it, suddenly a Goblin at less than $300 more looks very doable. I know no one has ever gone wrong buying a better bike but at the same time, if I am going to be doing easy trails with my kids, will I really notice the difference between the Reba and the Recon Gold? The x5 seems like a great component set and has to be an improvement over the LX level I am using on the hybrid, right?

    Being able to tell my wife that I kept the bike purchase under a grand will also pay benefits (I don't need to tell her about the pedals and assembly). So I am 90% sold on the Seeker but wanted to see if I was being short sighted. I am 43 and probably not going to be taking trips to Moab but you never know what may happen if my boys start really enjoying the sport. Hopefully this gets some views and thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by avines View Post
    Well the addition of this bike to the stable has made my decision making that much harder!

    My current MTB, that has street tires on it and a Biopace crankset (think 1988), has got to go. Not only have bikes come a long long way since I was in college but my body has gone a long way as well. I'm riding a hybrid for getting into shape on the streets and the veloway near my house but this summer we are getting our 12 y.o twins new hardtails for their bday so if I want to keep up with them, I am going to need a new bike.

    I started thinking the Guardian would be my best bet but since I am 215 and 5'10" (shooting for 200 by end of summer and 185 eventually), I think I need something beefier and the Seeker has my total attention. Of course, now that I am looking at it, suddenly a Goblin at less than $300 more looks very doable. I know no one has ever gone wrong buying a better bike but at the same time, if I am going to be doing easy trails with my kids, will I really notice the difference between the Reba and the Recon Gold? The x5 seems like a great component set and has to be an improvement over the LX level I am using on the hybrid, right?

    Being able to tell my wife that I kept the bike purchase under a grand will also pay benefits (I don't need to tell her about the pedals and assembly). So I am 90% sold on the Seeker but wanted to see if I was being short sighted. I am 43 and probably not going to be taking trips to Moab but you never know what may happen if my boys start really enjoying the sport. Hopefully this gets some views and thanks!

    I ride a Goblin and my wife has a Guardian, both less than 6 months old, and both have been ridden on various terrain for many miles (especially my Goblin which has actually been beat on pretty well). I've ridden both bikes just to see if I could tell a significant difference. I can tell a difference in the two, but it is not dramatic. They were 1) Tires. I'm not yet sold on the small knobby tire, but the AKAs work better than the small block 8s IMO. 2) Fork. 80 vs 100mm travel evident on larger drops and dips, but this is partially negated by the new Guardian 2.0 offering a 100mm fork. Either way, the air fork is smoother, lighter, and infintely more adjustable than the spring shock on the Guardian. 3) Brakes and drivetrain. LOVE the 2X10 gears, and X-7 components and the brakes. IMO the X-5 on the Guardian works just fine but the X-7 just seems more precise and a little quicker (and I'm guessing lighter as well). That's a long way to say, given the description of your intended riding style, the Seeker seems like the perfect bike for you and still give you some budget room for pedals, accesories, and any future upgrades you deem important. The only thing I plan to change on my bike is the front tire and maybe the seat post. I'm just used to the lateral grip a more agressive knobby provides and I'm not too worried about the increased rolling resistance as I generally ride for my own amusement and exercise, not to set land speed records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avines View Post
    Well the addition of this bike to the stable has made my decision making that much harder!

    My current MTB, that has street tires on it and a Biopace crankset (think 1988), has got to go. Not only have bikes come a long long way since I was in college but my body has gone a long way as well. I'm riding a hybrid for getting into shape on the streets and the veloway near my house but this summer we are getting our 12 y.o twins new hardtails for their bday so if I want to keep up with them, I am going to need a new bike.

    I started thinking the Guardian would be my best bet but since I am 215 and 5'10" (shooting for 200 by end of summer and 185 eventually), I think I need something beefier and the Seeker has my total attention. Of course, now that I am looking at it, suddenly a Goblin at less than $300 more looks very doable. I know no one has ever gone wrong buying a better bike but at the same time, if I am going to be doing easy trails with my kids, will I really notice the difference between the Reba and the Recon Gold? The x5 seems like a great component set and has to be an improvement over the LX level I am using on the hybrid, right?

    Being able to tell my wife that I kept the bike purchase under a grand will also pay benefits (I don't need to tell her about the pedals and assembly). So I am 90% sold on the Seeker but wanted to see if I was being short sighted. I am 43 and probably not going to be taking trips to Moab but you never know what may happen if my boys start really enjoying the sport. Hopefully this gets some views and thanks!
    Honestly if you are not going to use any mountain bike to its full potential..like nothing but trails then I would think the Seeker fits your described needs perfect..would you notice a difference on having the Reba...maybe..but probably not from your description of the intended use...if you get in more serious trail riding down the road than having the Reba would be a plus...we all have heard buy the best bike you can afford...which is true...to a point..buy the best bike you can for the intended use..don't get me wrong I love my Goblin and still consider it one of the best dollar for value in hard tail mountain bikes..I think either one will serve your purposes great..and that Seeker is wicked looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by avines View Post
    Well the addition of this bike to the stable has made my decision making that much harder!

    My current MTB, that has street tires on it and a Biopace crankset (think 1988), has got to go. Not only have bikes come a long long way since I was in college but my body has gone a long way as well. I'm riding a hybrid for getting into shape on the streets and the veloway near my house but this summer we are getting our 12 y.o twins new hardtails for their bday so if I want to keep up with them, I am going to need a new bike.

    I started thinking the Guardian would be my best bet but since I am 215 and 5'10" (shooting for 200 by end of summer and 185 eventually), I think I need something beefier and the Seeker has my total attention. Of course, now that I am looking at it, suddenly a Goblin at less than $300 more looks very doable. I know no one has ever gone wrong buying a better bike but at the same time, if I am going to be doing easy trails with my kids, will I really notice the difference between the Reba and the Recon Gold? The x5 seems like a great component set and has to be an improvement over the LX level I am using on the hybrid, right?

    Being able to tell my wife that I kept the bike purchase under a grand will also pay benefits (I don't need to tell her about the pedals and assembly). So I am 90% sold on the Seeker but wanted to see if I was being short sighted. I am 43 and probably not going to be taking trips to Moab but you never know what may happen if my boys start really enjoying the sport. Hopefully this gets some views and thanks!
    I think the $270 to upgrade from the guardian to the seeker gets you a lot of advantages. Given your current weight the Recon Gold will be a great fork if you get into some fun trails, however the XC28 will be good for the dirt trail riding and would be good for you with probably a spring upgrade in it. The X5 crankset is a great set-up for the money, vast improvement over the E400 on the guardian and almost the same as the X7 on the Goblin. 2x10 gearset on a 29er is a great set-up if you could ride both you would feel the 29er and 2x10 were made for each other (they kind of were) and will definetly allow you to keep up with your kid easier (as well as having the front end be 1.5lbs lighter). The Elixir brakes (although elixir 1s) have had great reviews and are a solid example of trickle down technology from the higher end elixir line. I have had elixir 1s on a bike and loved them, to be honest with the exception of some adjustability it is hard for me to tell the difference from them to any elixir up the line (flame away gearheads, but I like them a lot).

    The Goblin is a great bike (neh Amazing bike), however I think the only weaker point on the Seeker from the Goblin for me is the X7 rear der to the X5. The X5 is not weaker, just the X7 is a bit better. The cranksets are very similiar, brakes for me were almost identical (I don't need the adjustability, just need to stop) Reba is a great fork, but the Recon Gold is as good in many ways. I have a FOX on my XTC now and love it, but it is hard to feel the difference for me between the FOX, REBA, and RECON GOLD. Air from Coil was a big change for me. After that the difference have been weight and adjustability for me and not the actual performance. (I have tried extremly high end forks or the bottom of the air forks either, and feel the three mentioned are very similiar on ride)

    So in short if you think you would be growing with this as your twins get into it more, get the seeker. the fork upgrade alone is worth the $270 difference and you get the rest for good measure for free. If you don't think it likely you will be doing more than just dirt trails then the guardian is a terrific bike, heck it is a great bike period, but you just get in my opinion so much more with the seeker. (especially for your size and I say that knowing I am 190-195 6'1"). I think the Goblin will be slightly lighter then the seeker, but performance wise it will be very close. The components on the Seeker will suit most well and not require immediate upgrades of anything.

    Also the seeker is just pure sexy with the matt grey/gold accents with the recon gold fork. I was looking at the guardian and the goblin at first. Was looking at pricing what I wanted to change on the guardian and then the seeker came out. Everything I want and nothing I don't really need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTony View Post
    Honestly if you are not going to use any mountain bike to its full potential..like nothing but trails then I would think the Seeker fits your described needs perfect..would you notice a difference on having the Reba...maybe..but probably not from your description of the intended use...if you get in more serious trail riding down the road than having the Reba would be a plus...we all have heard buy the best bike you can afford...which is true...to a point..buy the best bike you can for the intended use..don't get me wrong I love my Goblin and still consider it one of the best dollar for value in hard tail mountain bikes..I think either one will serve your purposes great..and that Seeker is wicked looking
    I assume the TX means Texas (I'm smart that way), Tony and thanks for the reply!. If you know Austin, I doubt I will ever pedal at Emma Long. 20 years ago, I loved dropping into the greenbelt at Barton Skyway and taking it up to Sculpture Falls. I hear the trail is much gnarlier now but I would think there are plenty of trails I could take that will keep me off any significant drops. I'm a middle age dude who weighs enough that taking a header would be seriously damaging and just doesn't sound like a lot of fun.

    The thing that gets me is that it is less than $300 for the Goblin which looks super sweet. Of course, if I strongly consider the Goblin, there isn't too much more to go from it to the Hobgoblin and I could then ride any trail in non-bone jarring style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avines View Post

    The thing that gets me is that it is less than $300 for the Goblin which looks super sweet. Of course, if I strongly consider the Goblin, there isn't too much more to go from it to the Hobgoblin and I could then ride any trail in non-bone jarring style.
    ................and for a little more than that you could have the Goblin XO.

    Just kidding!

    I do love all the back and forth, and that we are at the point now where we are offering more options to fit more people in terms of riding styles and budgetary needs. The fact that people are now agonizing between two different Airborne models is great!

    We have more up our sleeve over the next few months, so stay tuned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyflyer View Post
    ................and for a little more than that you could have the goblin xo.

    just kidding!

    i do love all the back and forth, and that we are at the point now where we are offering more options to fit more people in terms of riding styles and budgetary needs. The fact that people are now agonizing between two different airborne models is great!

    We have more up our sleeve over the next few months, so stay tuned!

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    Might that include what I heard a glimpse of before? A "Stache-like bike"?

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    I assume the TX means Texas (I'm smart that way), Tony and thanks for the reply!. If you know Austin, I doubt I will ever pedal at Emma Long. 20 years ago, I loved dropping into the greenbelt at Barton Skyway and taking it up to Sculpture Falls. I hear the trail is much gnarlier now but I would think there are plenty of trails I could take that will keep me off any significant drops. I'm a middle age dude who weighs enough that taking a header would be seriously damaging and just doesn't sound like a lot of fun.

    The thing that gets me is that it is less than $300 for the Goblin which looks super sweet. Of course, if I strongly consider the Goblin, there isn't too much more to go from it to the Hobgoblin and I could then ride any trail in non-bone jarring style.


    Yep..Texas dude...Ft Worth...I have ridden some of the stuff in Austin...I know what I would do in your shoes...for 3 bills in difference I would get the Goblin...it will do everything you want and if you get the itch to some more hardcore stuff I t will handle that as well..the Reba is a great fork..as far as the FS goes yep you could make that leap as well...but I hardly touch my FS bikes these days...I have reverted back to hard tails and I am on the high end of the 40 age group...Airborne is making it hard to choose a bike these days...all there bikes are value packed for the money...one or two things usually happen,,,a guy buys a bike and rides it for awhile and it finds its way into the garage with all the other hobby stuff collecting time...

    Or they get bit by the bike bug and start upgrading and looking for stuff to improve the bike they bought...The Goblin lends itself to be a awesome ride out of the box and everything on it is above entry level and will serve you well...my initial thought was to replace the entire drive train with X9 stuff..have not found the need to do so...the specs are great and everything works great...I usually can not leave my bikes alone and am always swapping things out on them..the only thing I switched out on the Goblin where the wheels....mainly because I got them on sale and am a fan of Ringle wheels..I swapped out the seat post and handle bar and stem...but those things are a personal thing that most all of us do..

    I have had no issues with a hard tail 29er on the trails around here in Ft Worth..if I was buying another Goblin I would spring for the X0 version over a FS one...just because.it rocks...and I agree you are getting a lot for 300 more dollars...not like other companies where those kind of jumps can be like 5-6 hundred dollars...my vote! Goblin.

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    Exactly what TXTony said. I'm the kind of person who can't leave anything alone. I've spent more on upgrades for my Goblin than I did purchasing the bike. And I got some good deals on parts too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrbib21 View Post
    Weeeeellllll that sucks. I would've definitely bought the Seeker rather than the Guardian, specifically for the fork and 2x10 drivetrain. Oh wellz, can't win them all. I guess I'll be using the extra $300 at some point for a better fork (I did just upgrade the XC28 with a firmer spring, at least).
    Have you had a chance to ride it with the firm spring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrodomis View Post
    Might that include what I heard a glimpse of before? A "Stache-like bike"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrodomis View Post
    Might that include what I heard a glimpse of before? A "Stache-like bike"?
    What glimpse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Mac View Post
    BigDaddy, I know you are working it, but when can we expect some additional photos of the seeker and new guardian?

    I need some more to hold me over for the next 5 weeks. Man it seems like a long time when you right it out.
    Hopefully soon!

    Thanks for your order. You were indeed the first Seeker order. Over the past 2 days since we've blown up with orders and calls/emails about the Seeker! We're stoked!!!

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    Have to chime in and say, I'd still get the Goblin spec vs spec, but damn you guys did an excellent, understated paint job on the Seeker, very classy.
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    Glad I jumped on the Goblin a week ago... otherwise I would've bought the seeker and then wondered if I should've got the Gob. Should've Could've Would've... DID IT THIS TIME!

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    wow great job... the seeker's livery looks even better than the Goblin's in my opinion.

    Now that I'll be purchasing somewhat soon... it may be hard to decide between the two :/

    I assume the Seeker uses the Goblin's same frame, so the 16" will have the kink?

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    I assume the Seeker uses the Goblin's same frame, so the 16" will have the kink?
    That is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avines View Post
    I started thinking the Guardian would be my best bet but since I am 215 and 5'10" (shooting for 200 by end of summer and 185 eventually), I think I need something beefier and the Seeker has my total attention. Of course, now that I am looking at it, suddenly a Goblin at less than $300 more looks very doable. I know no one has ever gone wrong buying a better bike but at the same time, if I am going to be doing easy trails with my kids, will I really notice the difference between the Reba and the Recon Gold? The x5 seems like a great component set and has to be an improvement over the LX level I am using on the hybrid, right?
    The Recon Gold and the Reba are solo air now so you can get good value out of the Recon Gold. It is light weight and an air fork is necessary at your weight. Use the extra for a $151 FlowEx/Hope2 front wheel from Wiggle and some Nobby Nic Performance tires from ebikestop.
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    At this price point, Seeker or Trek Mamba?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimension View Post
    At this price point, Seeker or Trek Mamba?


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    Seeker. The Mamba has a coil fork compared to the air fork on the Seeker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Mac View Post
    BigDaddy, I know you are working it, but when can we expect some additional photos of the seeker and new guardian?

    I need some more to hold me over for the next 5 weeks. Man it seems like a long time when you right it out.
    Ask and ye shall receive...............
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    That is the sickest paint scheme to date! Love it.

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    I think they should offer the frameset with this paint job, looks absolutely killer, especially compared to what the frame only has right now. Thinking I might pick up a frame to give it a try, but I'd most definitely have it stripped and PCd or painted.
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    I think they should offer the frameset with this paint job, looks absolutely killer, especially compared to what the frame only has right now. Thinking I might pick up a frame to give it a try, but I'd most definitely have it stripped and PCd or painted.
    Absolutely! I just bough a Goblin frame the other day and I would definitely pick up a Seeker frame if they offered it with the same colors as the complete bike.

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    I'm looking to get a new frame. The Seeker frameset would be at the top of my list, if available!

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    Add me to the list of people who would immediately purchase a seeker frame to build up! I will be buying the whole bike regardless but would love a second frame to build slowly.

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    +1 I would love to swap my sweet components to a Seeker frame!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Thanks!

    No plans on offering a free freight deal on this one. We think its such a smoking good price on a great bike already that we aren't dropping the freight charge. We aren't getting rich on this spec at this price and gotta keep the lights on and the doors open, errr, website turned on!

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    Hey, I drive through Dayton on a frequent basis.... any way I could swing by and just pick up my bike if I ordered it online beforehand? I of course will still put it together...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cra$hmaker View Post
    Hey, I drive through Dayton on a frequent basis.... any way I could swing by and just pick up my bike if I ordered it online beforehand? I of course will still put it together...
    Hey there,

    All of our bikes are warehoused in California; we don't stock any at our office here in Dayton. All that's here are a few display bikes, our demo fleet, and employee bikes. So we'd still have the ship the bike here and freight would still be charged. If you still want to stop by and pick one up, we could arrange that if you call us and work it out. We'd order the bike in and let you know when it arrives here. We could put the bike together for you so that you are picking it up ready to ride.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Hey there,

    All of our bikes are warehoused in California; we don't stock any at our office here in Dayton. All that's here are a few display bikes, our demo fleet, and employee bikes. So we'd still have the ship the bike here and freight would still be charged. If you still want to stop by and pick one up, we could arrange that if you call us and work it out. We'd order the bike in and let you know when it arrives here. We could put the bike together for you so that you are picking it up ready to ride.

    Thanks!

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    BDF, you guys should provide an initial ride service with all bikes. An Airborne representative could travel to the buyer's city the same day the bike arrives, and bring with them their personal ride. Then they could assist with the assembly and setup of the new bike.

    Afterwards, the Airborne rep and the buyer could ride the buyer's local trails so there is someone available in case anything needs adjustment.

    Post ride food and refreshments could be charged to the Airborne rep's Visa.

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    BDF, you guys should provide an initial ride service with all bikes. An Airborne representative could travel to the buyer's city the same day the bike arrives, and bring with them their personal ride. Then they could assist with the assembly and setup of the new bike.

    Afterwards, the Airborne rep and the buyer could ride the buyer's local trails so there is someone available in case anything needs adjustment.

    Post ride food and refreshments could be charged to the Airborne rep's Visa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffharris1us View Post
    BDF, you guys should provide an initial ride service with all bikes. An Airborne representative could travel to the buyer's city the same day the bike arrives, and bring with them their personal ride. Then they could assist with the assembly and setup of the new bike.

    Afterwards, the Airborne rep and the buyer could ride the buyer's local trails so there is someone available in case anything needs adjustment.

    Post ride food and refreshments could be charged to the Airborne rep's Visa.

    This didn't happen for y'all? When I got my Goblin all the above applied. Maybe I'm special?

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    Frameset, frameset???? Please, please!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffharris1us View Post
    BDF, you guys should provide an initial ride service with all bikes. An Airborne representative could travel to the buyer's city the same day the bike arrives, and bring with them their personal ride. Then they could assist with the assembly and setup of the new bike.

    Afterwards, the Airborne rep and the buyer could ride the buyer's local trails so there is someone available in case anything needs adjustment.

    Post ride food and refreshments could be charged to the Airborne rep's Visa.
    LOL.

    "Introducing the new Airborne First-Class Purchase program. For $1929 you get your new Seeker delivered to your door by the Airborne Employee of your choice. Said employee will professionally fit you to your rig, and give you a tutorial on basic maintanence and upkeep. Then you will travel to a local trail of your choice whereby you will ride with them. Regardless of your riding ability you will always be in the front and given mad-props regarding your riding skills and speed.

    After the ride, dinner and drinks will be provided at your favorite local establishment. At the end of the night a hug is optional. Before leaving you will be provided with said employee's personal cell# and given permission to contact them day or nite with any questions regarding tuning, riding skills, wine/beer recommendations and food pairings, fashion, etc.

    For an additional $550 per person a Rainbow Unicorn Pony will be provided."



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    +1 for the mad props, food pairings, and the Rainbow Unicorn Pony.

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    See, that's funny!

    How about tips on maintenance and upkeep of the Rainbow Unicorn pony?

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    Rainbow unicorn pony is maintenance free. Just feed it skittles and red bulls (or were the red bulls for the pegasus?) maybe it was monster energy drinks for the unicorn. Consult the owners manual when you get it, can't remember.
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    Just placed my order for the Seeker! Really excited about riding again!

    Thanks again whoever that was on the phone that helped me.....I think Eric?

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    Now join the waiting crew, it is painful.

    It really is a no brainer if you are in the price range for a bike.
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    For those of you who are anxiously awaiting your Seeker, here's an outdoor shot......
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    If I may speak for the many folks who have already placed orders for Seekers...

    "DON'T SEND PICTURES, SEND BIKES!"

    "And rainbow unicorns when possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    For those of you who are anxiously awaiting your Seeker, here's an outdoor shot......
    Very nice! So I should be expecting my Seeker at the end of this week you say???

    Great shot, it looks even better out in the wild!

    I have a quick question? How are the frame stickers put on? are they stickers or decals.....or what?

    Also, in the photos on the website the back stickers look yellow, in the new photo outside they look orange...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzaapp View Post
    Very nice! So I should be expecting my Seeker at the end of this week you say???

    Great shot, it looks even better out in the wild!

    I have a quick question? How are the frame stickers put on? are they stickers or decals.....or what?

    Also, in the photos on the website the back stickers look yellow, in the new photo outside they look orange...

    LOL!

    The decals are water transfer under a matte clear finish. So they are almost seamless.

    The accents are orange. The studio shots somehow look more gold (must be the lighting) but they are definitely orange.

    Hope that helps!

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    Bike looks awesome!

    I love that Airborne is sticking to the formula of great bikes at better prices, instead of starting with low prices and bumping them up after people start to buy in. Great company.

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    Omg, this is the first 29er ht that has me considering selling my trek and buying instead. The components for the price, the style of the bike....I think come winter I'm going to order one, change the x5 driveline for my slx driveline (x5 onto my trek) and sell the trek.

    Wait to go airborne beautiful bike, good reputation as a company to back it up, now if there was a dealer in my area though it won't stop me from owning this

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    Thanks so much for all of the kind words!

    While we are making some "expensive" bikes like the X0 models and the upcoming Pathogen DH frameset, we will never forget our original mission statement: Make quality, great value bikes that get more butts in saddles.

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    So I'm getting back into riding after a 5 year hiatus and my old Trek 4500 is tired. I'm looking to upgrade in a month or so and was fond of the Guardian 2.0, but for roughly $300 more the components seem far superior. To me, $1000 is a lot for a bike since I'm just getting back into and really only rode for about a year in my first attempt (quit because I finished college and moved away from trails, but back near trails). The trails I ride are pretty rooty, and not a whole lot of elevation, but some.

    At 6ft, 170lbs, 33" inseam, what size would I be looking at? My current bike is an 18" and I feel big on it. Also, what is the advantage of 2x10 drivetrain? Less weight? Just curious.

    Does the Seeker sound like a good fit? I plan on sticking with this as the trails are 10 minutes from my house and can get in a good ride at least 2-3 times a week after work. Thanks guys.

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    I don't know anything better for the price. If you are riding 2-3 times a week with your size you will want the air fork. No better value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWT2767 View Post
    So I'm getting back into riding after a 5 year hiatus and my old Trek 4500 is tired. I'm looking to upgrade in a month or so and was fond of the Guardian 2.0, but for roughly $300 more the components seem far superior. To me, $1000 is a lot for a bike since I'm just getting back into and really only rode for about a year in my first attempt (quit because I finished college and moved away from trails, but back near trails). The trails I ride are pretty rooty, and not a whole lot of elevation, but some.

    At 6ft, 170lbs, 33" inseam, what size would I be looking at? My current bike is an 18" and I feel big on it. Also, what is the advantage of 2x10 drivetrain? Less weight? Just curious.

    Does the Seeker sound like a good fit? I plan on sticking with this as the trails are 10 minutes from my house and can get in a good ride at least 2-3 times a week after work. Thanks guys.
    Both the Guardian 2.0 and the Seeker would be a good fit.

    The Guardian is a great value. A lot of bike for the money.

    The Seeker is a much better bike, with 2x10 drive train and tapered head tube. But it is a few more dollars.

    If money is tight then the Guardian will suit your needs very well as you're just getting back into it.

    If you can swing it then the Seeker will be a great bike for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffharris1us View Post
    The Seeker is a much better bike, with 2x10 drive train and tapered head tube.
    What are the advantages of the 2x10 and tapered head tube? Still new to this and trying to learn.

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    The tapered head tube and tapered fork makes the front end of the bike stiffer. You'll notice that most mid-high end MTBs have tapered head tubes.

    In my opinion, 2x10 drive train is the way to go, especially with a XC bike. Again, many higher end bikes are starting to come with 2x10. There is a bit of a weight savings. But it just makes the shifting simpler and smoother.

    For my local trails, I am rarely out of the large ring up front, but can use that smaller ring when necessary. We rode in the mountains a few weeks back and I used the small ring a ton.

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    2X ring setup= people not cross chaning my damn bike gears and wearing/breaking them Seriously, much better for MTB and trail riding, just make more sense.

    Tapered HT - stiffens up the front a load from the tapered steerer the fork then uses. IMHO one of the best advances for MTBs in years.
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    With 2x10, generally, the 2 rings in the front are in the middle of what the 3 rings normally would be. So the small ring is a few teeth more than the small ring of a 3x setup and the big ring is a few teeth less than the big ring of a 3x setup.

    The sacrifice, although normally a small one, is really on the steepest uphills and downhills.

    But this sacrifice is compensated by having 10 gears in the back.

    You would very likely never think "gee, if I just had one more gear."

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    Any update on the seeker? Are they still looking at the 12th to ship them? After riding my goblin my buddy ordered a seeker and can't wait for it to come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherrys2r View Post
    Any update on the seeker? Are they still looking at the 12th to ship them? After riding my goblin my buddy ordered a seeker and can't wait for it to come in.
    They are due to be shipping out to customers the week of August 12th. it *could* be a few days sooner. But that's still our best guess for now.

    Thanks!

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    Thanks BDF you guys are great and so far I'm loving my goblin.

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    Airborne Seeker 29ers have arrived in the port nearly a week early and we plan on shipping them out in the next few days!

    For those of you who have been waiting on your Seeker, you'll be getting a tracking# soon!



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    That's great news, Jeremy!

    And a week early, that's awesome!

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    I've been a long time lurker on MTBR, well for about the last 3 weeks, and have spent 30+ hours researching the " bike for me"....migraines and all!

    I come from a BMX and freestyle background and was literally attached to a bike every waking hour as a kid. Bikes were expensive back then and they're even more more expensive now. As a kid I owned and rode just about everything...Haro Sport and Master, Redline, Pk Ripper and my favorite of all time....a pink Hutch Hollywood!

    FAST FORWARD 25 years...I'm 39 with 2 kids and a beautiful wife and looking for a family thing we can all do together! Enter mountain bikes!

    Last time I was on a bike was 10 years ago while on my honeymoon in Jamaica. I rode on a 4 hour tour downhill thru the Blue Mountains on a sketchy road on the biggest POS bike you've ever seen...and with no breaks to boot! I would of 100% schooled everyone in the group except the fact that my riding partner's bike had breaks and she just about burned them off that bike!

    I've sat on and tested several Bikes recently including the Trek Mamba and Cobia, the Rockhopper, rock comp and the carve as well as a few out of my range Santa Cruz models. It's funny how the guys at the LBS take me to a higher priced bike every time I walk into a shop!

    I was dead set on a Goblin for a few days and it wasn't that far out of my range, but after adding everything up... bike, tax, shipping, trail kit/repair kit, spare tube, pedals, helmet, gloves etc etc...I was way out of my price range. I just bought my 7 and 10 year olds MTN Bikes and I also need to get the Mrs her ride.

    After reading the specs on the Seeker and talking with Jeremy a few times, I finally pulled the trigger on a 20" Seeker an hour or so ago.
    I'm 6'2 225 and plan to ride 3x a week mixed on groomed trails, concrete paths and single tracks! Lucky for me I live within 10 miles of Blankets Creek and Rope Mill so I will soon...JUMP right in! I don't believe I under bought and I don't believe the Goblin would of been too much either. I simply had to make a choice to buy the seeker now and be in my immediate price range or save up and wait a little longer for the Goblin...well we live in a :Want it now" society and I'm the first one to tell you, when I want something, I want it now! I truly believe I made the right choice...maybe in few years I'll want something else but only time will tell!

    I'm now anxiously awaiting like the rest of the soon to be Seeker owners.

    I'm really digging Airborne as a company and for what they are doing!!! Offering a great bike at a great price with great customer service Nothing I looked at even came close to this bike for the same price point! I wish them the best of success as they move forward as a company!

    There are WAY more cost conscience dudes like me that are looking to buy bikes than guys who will stroke a check for $2k plus on their first bike!

    Thanks for all your help Jeremy! I can't wait to start riding again!

    BTW>>>>Any suggestion on some 1/2 platform/half clip pedals in an orange color to match the orange on my new ride? I need pedals and it would look saaaweeet!

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    I was about to order orange pedals too, but I want to see what shade of orange the paint is before I buy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNBrit84 View Post
    I was about to order orange pedals too, but I want to see what shade of orange the paint is before I buy!
    That's what I was thinkin...... Or maybe flat black w/orange pins. 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigwillie41 View Post
    That's what I was thinkin...... Or maybe flat black w/orange pins. 
    I just went with all black stuff since I plan on getting the frame repainted this winter.

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    Got my shipping confirm email!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!! 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigwillie41 View Post
    Got my shipping confirm email!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!! 👍
    Me too! Fed Ex man better take care of my new roller or its his A$$!!!

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    Ordered my Seeker this evening. I did a ton of research and could not find a better deal for under a grand. Plus the color scheme kicks ass!

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    My bike will be here tomorrow! Took a half day so I can wait at the front door! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNBrit84 View Post
    My bike will be here tomorrow! Took a half day so I can wait at the front door! lol
    Great!!!

    Enjoy the delivery and putting it together.

    Post pics of the build.

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    Can anyone here more experienced than I comment on what bikes might share a similar geometry to the seeker, and what they were going for with this design?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBoneAz View Post
    Can anyone here more experienced than I comment on what bikes might share a similar geometry to the seeker, and what they were going for with this design?

    Thanks!
    Same as any other budget 29er. It's built for XC. Geo numbers almost match my 2012 Raleigh Talus 29 perfectly. Only difference is my bike is built around an 80mm fork. It's not 'nice and slack' or have short stays and 'super flickable like a 26er' as all them folks riding real mountains say. It's a stable geometry good for climbing.

    If you ride a MTB like you ride a BMX, then you may not like it. Otherwise, it's a proven geometry that works well for most people.
    The leg bone's connected to the Cash Bone!

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    Sweet! Mine is slated to be here tomorrow....

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    I don't have pedals yet....... Also couldn't figure out how the reflectors go on so I took the ones off the wheels too and put them back in the box. 😋

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    Yeah I need to see the orange before I get pedals! Might have to get some cheapies to hold me over until I decided on a color/brand

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    These are what I found..... They are in the mail somewhere.

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    New member here! Just getting back into riding after being away for more than a decade. i originally planned to spend $600 on a new bike, but not being happy with what i found in the local shops i did research and kept reading about Airborne. I originally was getting a Guardian, but after seeing the Seeker and the value it brings for a few hundred more, i decided to go with it. I ordered it Thursday and can't wait to take it for a ride.

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    Seeker is a great option.

    Super value. I think you'll be very happy with the choice.

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    I'm still considering picking up an 18" Seeker for my wife and friends to ride with me. Get some more butts on some bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyKreitzer View Post
    I'm still considering picking up an 18" Seeker for my wife and friends to ride with me. Get some more butts on some bikes.
    Good for you.

    If you buy one for me I'll ride it.

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    For $929.00 I don't think there is a better deal online for what you get. The Seeker is a good quality XC 29er that will perform well for any beginner or intermediate rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffharris1us View Post
    Good for you.

    If you buy one for me I'll ride it.
    If you drive from Omaha to Ohio you're more than welcome to ride it while you're here. I'm not delivering it to you! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyKreitzer View Post
    If you drive from Omaha to Ohio you're more than welcome to ride it while you're here. I'm not delivering it to you! Lol
    Are you sure? I promise that I'll keep it in good shape.

    If you ever come to Omaha then I'll let you watch me as I ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffharris1us View Post
    Are you sure? I promise that I'll keep it in good shape.

    If you ever come to Omaha then I'll let you watch me as I ride it.
    Tempting...

    Wait... Are you making a pass at me? Why would I want to watch you ride it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyKreitzer View Post
    Tempting...

    Wait... Are you making a pass at me? Why would I want to watch you ride it?
    Ah, no.

    If I were gonna, I would put it on the Lubing/Greasing thread.

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    Good call.

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    Just ordered my 18" Seeker today. I will share photos of the unboxing, assembly and then a nice dirty bike.

    A tad nervous about buying online, but I've been wrenching my own bikes for decades. I just hope it's been assembled properly at the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyLinksystems View Post
    Just ordered my 18" Seeker today. I will share photos of the unboxing, assembly and then a nice dirty bike.

    A tad nervous about buying online, but I've been wrenching my own bikes for decades. I just hope it's been assembled properly at the factory.
    I had the same reservations and can safely say that you will not be disappointed. They do a very good job on packaging and there were no issues on mine. Just make sure you give yourself a little extra time to align the disc brakes and adjust the drivetrain before you get it dirty.

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    Thanks iMTB. Re: Chain --The Seeker comes with the SRAM powerlink removable link, right? I like to soak and clean on occasion.

    SRAM PC 1031 PowerChain

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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyLinksystems View Post
    Thanks iMTB. Re: Chain --The Seeker comes with the SRAM powerlink removable link, right? I like to soak and clean on occasion.

    SRAM PC 1031 PowerChain

    ITs the 10speed, so the powerlink is there but its a bear to remove.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discu...nk-603070.html

    A lot of people in that thread say you can't reuse the link. I did, two or three times now. I am a big heavy guy and climb like a road rider (out of the saddle, power output,) and have had no problems with my chain.
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    I've been using wipperman links on my roadie for years and never had an issue. shouldnt be any different here. IF this is an issue, I will have to buy a new chain just to get this standard functionality. Ugh.

    Quote Originally Posted by skyphix View Post
    ITs the 10speed, so the powerlink is there but its a bear to remove.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discu...nk-603070.html

    A lot of people in that thread say you can't reuse the link. I did, two or three times now. I am a big heavy guy and climb like a road rider (out of the saddle, power output,) and have had no problems with my chain.

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    That's the thing... It works fine, its just stiffer than the older 8 and 9 speed links. Park even makes a tool but I just used a set of channel locks. My mechanic was able to do it without any tools.

    No need to buy a new chain. The one it comes with is durable and works well.
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    If you use the proper tool for removal, the Powerlink is a breeze to remove for chain cleaning. Just buy the tool; pliers don't work well and the tool saves you the personal embarrassment of the neighbors thinking you have turrets syndrome.

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    yeah, that's the thing. I never needed a tool for the wipperman links on my roadie- they came off easy by hand. I have only broken one chain in my life out on the trail or road. I'm more concerned about the fact that it is a PITA, then that will discourage me from cleaning it as much as I should.

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    The tool is cheap

    Amazon.com: Park Tool MLP-1.2 Chain Link Pliers: Sports & Outdoors

    And its not really any more of a pain than other quick disconnect and certainly easier than pushing the pins out (like Shimano chains.)
    Eric

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    Just put in my order for a seeker tonight! Too excited not to share!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDM88 View Post
    Just put in my order for a seeker tonight! Too excited not to share!!!
    Congrats!! Now begins the long wait

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    I've been eyeing it for a few weeks now, but honestly what did it for me was visiting my local EMS yesterday. They had a nice Santa Cruz Highball. Don't get me wrong, it was a nice bike. It had the same Recon fork, Elixir 1 brakes, and mostly X5 drivetrain minus the X7 rear mech.....but $1700!!!

    The Seeker is a fantastic deal!

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    I should have noted earlier that I ordered my seeker last week wednesday, it shipped on friday, and is scheduled to be here tomorrow (tuesday).

    Looking forward to having a nice long Thanksgiving weekend once I get it all set up and dialed in.

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    First post - longtime listener, first time caller. I've spent several weeks agonizing over my MTB purchase. I'm a roadie here looking to visit the dark side in the winter months. I'm in the same amazeballs state as Airborne: lovely Ohio.

    I looked at everything from Trek, Specialized, Fuji, Access (I'm close to a Performance Bike), Felt, GT, and Giant... the Seeker just spoke to me and I just placed my order. What a killer value!!!

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    Congrats and welcome.

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    Anyone have a long term update on their Seeker. The price is SOOO enticing on this puppy!

    How has it held up to abuse? Are you a happy Seeker owner? And what other bikes were you considering before deciding on the Seeker?

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    I put around 200 miles on my Seeker from August until my last ride in December.

    It has held up well. I've had two issues; rear derailleur and rear hub.

    Rear derailleur was the victim of a rogue stick. Upgraded to X7. Was never unhappy with X5 but when given the opportunity to upgrade to a reasonable level, I will.

    Rear hub issue: Started to notice a strange twang when trying to accelerate or if I tried to climb hard, eventually got worse. Airborne had a new hub to me less than a week after I called them, and this was over a holiday week. No problem since the hub was replaced (about 50 miles of hard aggressive climbing.) I am around 260lbs geared up and live in the northeast. My favorite ride starts with 2.5 miles of steep technical climbing.

    I love the bike. My other options were a Kona Taro (above my price range but tempting,) Airborne Guardian, Jamis Dragon 29, Salsa El Mariachi (above my price range but, steel...)

    I don't regret getting the Seeker at all. I've contemplated swapping the parts over to a steel frame but I like the Seeker frame so much I can't bring myself to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiller15 View Post
    Anyone have a long term update on their Seeker. The price is SOOO enticing on this puppy!

    How has it held up to abuse? Are you a happy Seeker owner? And what other bikes were you considering before deciding on the Seeker?
    While not a Seeker owner, I can tell you that we've sold a LOT of Seekers in the past few months since we introduced them, and its on a pace to become one of our best-selling models.

    Feel free to give us a call or email if you have any questions, we'd be happy to chat.

    Thanks!

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    Hey all,

    I'm new guy here and have been reading up on as much as possible in preparation to make my return to recreational mountain biking.

    My last bike I purchased new back in 1991. A Trek 6000 that I owned and beat on occasionally, less as time wore on with kids, etc., but sold it before a recent move and just purchased a Seeker to replace it and am anxiously awaiting delivery.

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    Welcome - you won't regret it!
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    No doubt I won't. I spoke to them on the phone and they were one of the most patient, helpful companies I've dealt with in a long time.
    I'm sure a lot of the questions I asked they answered many times per week, but you couldn't tell it by their telephone demeanor.
    They won a customer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Mac View Post
    I think the $270 to upgrade from the guardian to the seeker gets you a lot of advantages. Given your current weight the Recon Gold will be a great fork if you get into some fun trails, however the XC28 will be good for the dirt trail riding and would be good for you with probably a spring upgrade in it. The X5 crankset is a great set-up for the money, vast improvement over the E400 on the guardian and almost the same as the X7 on the Goblin. 2x10 gearset on a 29er is a great set-up if you could ride both you would feel the 29er and 2x10 were made for each other (they kind of were) and will definetly allow you to keep up with your kid easier (as well as having the front end be 1.5lbs lighter). The Elixir brakes (although elixir 1s) have had great reviews and are a solid example of trickle down technology from the higher end elixir line. I have had elixir 1s on a bike and loved them, to be honest with the exception of some adjustability it is hard for me to tell the difference from them to any elixir up the line (flame away gearheads, but I like them a lot).

    The Goblin is a great bike (neh Amazing bike), however I think the only weaker point on the Seeker from the Goblin for me is the X7 rear der to the X5. The X5 is not weaker, just the X7 is a bit better. The cranksets are very similiar, brakes for me were almost identical (I don't need the adjustability, just need to stop) Reba is a great fork, but the Recon Gold is as good in many ways. I have a FOX on my XTC now and love it, but it is hard to feel the difference for me between the FOX, REBA, and RECON GOLD. Air from Coil was a big change for me. After that the difference have been weight and adjustability for me and not the actual performance. (I have tried extremly high end forks or the bottom of the air forks either, and feel the three mentioned are very similiar on ride)

    So in short if you think you would be growing with this as your twins get into it more, get the seeker. the fork upgrade alone is worth the $270 difference and you get the rest for good measure for free. If you don't think it likely you will be doing more than just dirt trails then the guardian is a terrific bike, heck it is a great bike period, but you just get in my opinion so much more with the seeker. (especially for your size and I say that knowing I am 190-195 6'1"). I think the Goblin will be slightly lighter then the seeker, but performance wise it will be very close. The components on the Seeker will suit most well and not require immediate upgrades of anything.

    Also the seeker is just pure sexy with the matt grey/gold accents with the recon gold fork. I was looking at the guardian and the goblin at first. Was looking at pricing what I wanted to change on the guardian and then the seeker came out. Everything I want and nothing I don't really need.
    Really great post. I am vacillating (big word for the day) between the Seeker and the Goblin. I have had XC bikes (Rockhoppers) in the past that have been equipped with Deore or X5 components. Both have functioned quite well and both benefit from trickle down technology from advances in the higher end groups. I used to be into road cycling in a big way and pretty much stayed with Shimano 105 group on my bikes because of the trickle down technology, it served my needs and because it is very tough to beat the 105 price point. In other words, what you're really paying for in the road cycling world is lighter weight components because the 105 group is bomb proof. That being said, I can't help but think that the current X5 group has benefited from advances in the higher end SRAM groups and may be more akin to the X7 group from a few years ago and the X7 is more akin to the X9 group from a few years ago. I am thinking that the X5 group would be just fine for me because I don't beat my bikes to death and do as much paved trail and road surface riding as I do trail riding.

    Then there's the frame. The Goblin has the 6061 Hydroformed Aluminum Hardtail frame and the Seeker has the 6061-T6 Hydroformed Aluminum Hardtail 29er with tapered HT. What does T6 mean? Are these actually the same frame or are there slight differences? The specs indicate that the frames are identical in measurements. Again, what does T6 mean?

    In in the end, looking at both bikes (regardless of intended use - paved trails, paved surfaces and trails) it looks like the Goblin is just that much better, in terms of value, than the Seeker. In other words, for an additional $270 you are getting better components all the way around than if you were to spend the $270 afterward and upgrading on your own. Make sense? This is not to take anything away from the Seeker, just making an observation.

    Does this make sense or am I nuts?

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    They are both 6061-T6; its just an omission/typo. T6 is a hardening process. They share the same frame.

    Hope thst helps,

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosborn View Post

    Does this make sense or am I nuts?
    To a point, it always makes sense to buy the most bike you can afford. For some, that is a hard cap at $1000, and the Seeker fits. For others, that extra $270 is within wiggle room. One could argue that paying for X0 over X9 isn't worth it in an initial purchase unless you wanted to race it straight away but up to that point its always smart to maximize your budget in the initial purchase.

    I got my Seeker in a rare circumstance, but if I hadn't I would've gone Guardian because my budget was 600 with about $200 wiggle room.

    Both are great bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyphix View Post
    To a point, it always makes sense to buy the most bike you can afford. For some, that is a hard cap at $1000, and the Seeker fits. For others, that extra $270 is within wiggle room. One could argue that paying for X0 over X9 isn't worth it in an initial purchase unless you wanted to race it straight away but up to that point its always smart to maximize your budget in the initial purchase.

    I got my Seeker in a rare circumstance, but if I hadn't I would've gone Guardian because my budget was 600 with about $200 wiggle room.

    Both are great bikes.
    Exactly. You can play this game all day. My budget was $700 originally for a new MTB. After some research and discussion on these boards, I decided an additional $300 was well worth it to me for an upgrade to the Seeker. An additional $270 on top of that would be way out of my budget though. It seems that regardless of which bike you choose, people are very satisfied with Airborne as a whole.

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    Question for you guys: how durable are the components on the seeker? I know that any components durability depends on usage, rider weight, skill and finesse. Sorry that this isn't a question to be answered very definitively, but I would appreciate your input.

    I'm really digging the seeker as a next bike. I'd love to jump onto a hobgoblin but, alas! finances are restrictive. Truthfully I'm on more of a guardian budget but I can swing the seeker with some more savings. I don't tear up my equipment and I don't ride super aggressively (I ride hard for my own standard, but I'm no trail slayer!). Just curious about the usage to be expected from the drivetrain and fork. I ride about three times a week, part trail and paved commute. I'm thinking it would be a great fit and I know I'd be happy with the seeker and would expect several years enjoyment from it. Thanks!

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    See my post above. I'm a heavy rider and tend to ride a little bit more aggressively than I should at times.

    Fork is fine. Only "issue" I've ever had was in sub-zero F temperatures. Other than that (and right up to that) it has performed flawlessly. Well worth the money over the guardian fork.

    The drivetrain is also fine. X5 gets talked down on a lot but to be completely honest, it is totally workable and reliable. I DID manage to break my rear derailleur fairly early in my ownership but that was my fault. I wasn't paying enough attention and pulled a very large stick into the drivetrain. Bent the derailleur itself backwards, snapped a jocky wheel, and destroyed the hanger. All of that said, I was able to field repair it enough to ride 2 miles to the nearest bike shop and then a new jocky wheel had me back on the trail. I probably could've continued riding that derailleur but opted for an X7.

    If you aren't dumb, like I was, you won't have any problem - the components on the Seeker are higher than anything else you'll find it that price class short of other mail order bikes and I've gotta say, the Airborne stuff isn't even in the same class as those. If you can swing the Seeker, it is definitely worth saving up a bit more for.

    EDIT: I Did also destroy the rear freehub, but again, heavy rider, lots of torque, lots of aggressive climbing, not so much technique or finnesse. Airborne took care of me here, and handled it under warranty quickly and effectively. It has been fine since the rebuild. I wouldn't expect any of the other similarly priced options to have held up any better (I've broken freehub engagement on everything from 105 road to XT-level mountain hubs, so its a "me" problem.)
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    My best piece of advice is pick a pricepoint your willing to spend and keep it! The problem is that it is a slippery slope as $300-500 can always buy you a better bike...

    I was looking at the seeker, then though to myself, well for $300 more I can have the Goblin...but then for a extra $400 I'm in Hobgoblin territory...and it goes up and up...

    Then I let reality set it and remembered I had only allocated $1000 for a new bike...so my answer was had.

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    Skyphix and CD, thanks for the replies! What was the issue with the fork in the cold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaHector View Post
    Skyphix and CD, thanks for the replies! What was the issue with the fork in the cold?
    It got a bit sticky after an hour or two of riding. Didn't want to rebound. Worked fine as soon as I got it in my house and had a while to warm up.

    I rode it a lot in sub freezing temps this year... It was only down around 0F (was actually -9 the time I had problems) that it showed any sign of issue. That day was a particularly aggressive day, too, since the ground was fast and super grippy, but the roots and logs were slick so you had to kind of push it over those to find traction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyphix View Post
    It got a bit sticky after an hour or two of riding. Didn't want to rebound. Worked fine as soon as I got it in my house and had a while to warm up.
    More than likely the oil viscosity changed (thicker) due to the extreme cold and made it more difficult to pass thru/move. Air forks suffer less in the cold than the old elastomer-style forks, but they still can be affected. As can hydro brakes to an extent depending on the type of fluid used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    More than likely the oil viscosity changed (thicker) due to the extreme cold and made it more difficult to pass thru/move. Air forks suffer less in the cold than the old elastomer-style forks, but they still can be affected. As can hydro brakes to an extent depending on the type of fluid used.

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    Yep, I actually asked you via email back when it happened and that is what your response then was. I figured at -9, I'll just ride the rigid 26er, or ski. Definitely not faulting the fork at all - can't expect it to do something outside of its intended spec range.
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    Sky, you got me thinking about adjusting the recon fork...any disadvantage to running the seeker at 120mm? I know it will change the HA a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDM88 View Post
    Sky, you got me thinking about adjusting the recon fork...any disadvantage to running the seeker at 120mm? I know it will change the HA a bit.
    Voiding the warranty on your frame? From what I understand, it will make the fork more flexy as well... but how much I'm not sure. I'm a heavy rider so at that length it would make sense to go to 34mm stanchions instead. As for affecting the handling/performance of the Seeker frame, its really a personal preference. I have a friend running a similar geo GT at 120mm (designed for 100) and he loves the way it handles.


    Also it was mentioned that the QR version of this fork cant be extended to 120... not sure how true that is, as I haven't disassembled mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyphix View Post
    Also it was mentioned that the QR version of this fork cant be extended to 120... not sure how true that is, as I haven't disassembled mine.

    It has been a few months since I posted this, but before I go tearing apart my fork for pure curiosity reasons, has anyone tried to extend the 9mm QR version of the Recon Gold that comes on the Seeker to 120mm? Might save me some cash in the short term for a planned build...


    Edit: I won't be running it at 120 on my Seeker frame - 100mm works perfectly with the geo. It would be for another bike build.
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    After a very long back and forth and lots of research, I've finally decided on a Seeker. Unfortunately I think I'm going to have to go with an 18" as I do not want to have the curved top tube on 16" (5' 7", 30" inseam). I know the stand over clearance is right at my inseam so I am wondering if there is anything I can do to help clearance?

    I already plan on swapping stem for shorter size, but just worrying about stand over height..

    Thanks all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSeekLifexX View Post
    After a very long back and forth and lots of research, I've finally decided on a Seeker. Unfortunately I think I'm going to have to go with an 18" as I do not want to have the curved top tube on 16" (5' 7", 30" inseam). I know the stand over clearance is right at my inseam so I am wondering if there is anything I can do to help clearance?

    I already plan on swapping stem for shorter size, but just worrying about stand over height..

    Thanks all!
    Stand over height isn't really all that important anymore. I'm the same size as you and my 16" Guardian feels large to me. The curved top tube isn't that big of a deal, though it does make the bike look different.

    Short stem will help, but you really aren't going to know until you sit on it and ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSeekLifexX View Post
    After a very long back and forth and lots of research, I've finally decided on a Seeker. Unfortunately I think I'm going to have to go with an 18" as I do not want to have the curved top tube on 16" (5' 7", 30" inseam). I know the stand over clearance is right at my inseam so I am wondering if there is anything I can do to help clearance?

    I already plan on swapping stem for shorter size, but just worrying about stand over height..

    Thanks all!
    I'm in the same boat. 5'8, 30.5" inseam, not fond of the bent TT on the 16". My medium 26" Cannondale fits well and the VTT and standover are closest to the 16" Seeker, despite Airborne's site saying I should be on an 18". I swapped my C-dale's 100mm stem for a 60mm and it put me in a more comfortable riding position preventing my lower back from hurting.

    I'm contemplating the 18" Seeker and going with a 60mm stem, riser bars, and moving my saddle forward 3/4".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerz_subbie View Post
    I'm in the same boat. 5'8, 30.5" inseam, not fond of the bent TT on the 16". My medium 26" Cannondale fits well and the VTT and standover are closest to the 16" Seeker, despite Airborne's site saying I should be on an 18". I swapped my C-dale's 100mm stem for a 60mm and it put me in a more comfortable riding position preventing my lower back from hurting.

    I'm contemplating the 18" Seeker and going with a 60mm stem, riser bars, and moving my saddle forward 3/4".
    I'm close to the same size as you, 5'8" maybe a 32 inseam - I thought the 18 felt on the large side. Even with a 50mm stem, I felt my weight was more forward than I am comfortable with. For straight XC riding, probably not an issue.

    Stand over was okay, a little tight but not prohibitive. With a 60mm stem and risers, you should be good!
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