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    Help me spec an Airborne B-29!

    Well, as my other recent post stated, Fishers won't be available until mid summer at the earliest, so I'm looking towards other options. My team (Purdue Cycling) has a deal with Airborne, so I'm considering the B-29. Actually pretty highly considering it. It will be more expensive than a Paragon by a good measure, but it will last forever and ride very well. Since the frame is more expensive than the Fisher would be, I'm going to down-spec some parts to try and compensate. But before I get to parts, I have a couple questions:

    1) Frame size. I was going to get a 19" (Large) Paragon. I'm 6'1/2" with long legs. My road bike is a 60 cm Trek Madone (58.2 cm top tube and 100mm stem). I could have gone to a 58 cm frame with a longer stem, but the head tube would have been too short for me. From what it looks like, a 20" (large) B-29 matches up top-tube wise with a large Paragon. Sound good?

    2) Fork. From what I understand, Marzocchi discontinued the Marathon SL 29er this year, but it is still listed on the Airborne site as the only available 29er fork. I would rather have a Rockshox Reba based on reviews I've read on here, but isn't the travel different? I thought the SL had 95mm and the Reba has 80. Am I wrong? My only concern changing the handling of the bike if it was designed around a longer travel fork. Should I stick with the Marz if they still make it? Go with a Reba? There's also WB, but I don't know much about them.

    3) The parts. Here's what I'm thinking. Going for high quality and good price.

    Shifters: Sram X9 triggers
    Rear der: X9 long cage
    Crankset: Something ISIS- FSA aluminum? Truvativ?
    Bottom bracket: Same as above
    Front der: Sram if it is compatible with the frame, otherwise XT
    Chain: Sram PC97 or PC99
    Cassette: XT with a couple Ultegra cogs: 12-32
    Pedals: Eggbeater SLs
    Brakes: Avid BB7's
    Brake levers: Avid SD7's
    Seatpost: Airborne Ti
    Bar/Stem: Aluminum and cheap: Salsa, Truvativ, Bontrager, Airborne...
    Saddle: WTB
    Wheels: Undecided. Maybe Bontrager Race Lite Discs. Maybe do a build- possible DT or other solid disc hubs and either Bontrager 29's or Ritchey offset trekking rims.
    Tires: Bontrager Jones ACX


    Any suggestions are welcome.

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    I forgot headset: probably an FSA orbit or Cane Creek S-2 (something cheap for now)

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    Get a bigger Cassette

    You will need the 34t with the bigger wheels.


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    Marz and Rebas are both available in 80 or 100mm configurations (see Fisher HT and FS from 04 or earlier). I'd suggest the 80mm Reba. Probably your frame is configured around this travel. You can always reconfigure the fork later for 100mm if needed.
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    Hi,

    I just wrote a review on the B-29, which I hope you saw.

    A few comments.

    Fork - I originally got the Marathon with my B-29 and it was seriously choppered out. I am much happier with the 80mm White Bros fork. Reba would be fine as well, but the geometry of the bike is not designed for a 100mm fork.

    XT front derailer - I'd watch it on this one. I recently noticed how tight the clearence is with the rear wheel now that I put a nanoraptor on. I compared it to another XT (2003 I think) and for some reason the 05 sticks out at least an additional centimeter from the frame. Tire clearence on the frame is fine, but the XT just sticks out too far.

    Also, how much do you weigh? You might not want to go with the Airborne Ti post if you're not super light.

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    just get the fisher

    They can be had now.

    Both these shops are owned by the same dude, and he's very serious about 29er's, been riding them for years, and has impressive stock.

    2 weeks ago he had several sugars, xcals and paragons instock, mostly in 19/large. Also tons of forks/tires for 29ers stocked as well.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    EPO, I'm not too concerned about a 34t. I'm in Indiana, it's flat, and I'd like to think I can take the 32. I'm 165 lbs, race collegiate A's for road and cat 1/2/3 for USCF races. Some of the other guys I ride with have 11-27's on their 26" mountain bikes with no problems.

    bigwheelboy_490, I'll go with the Reba if I can get one. Does RockShox sell it through QBP or any other distributor, or just as OEM equipment on complete bikes?

    Krein, I did read your review. It is a good write-up. That's odd about the new XT derailleur. Do you know if the Sram front derailleur will work with the B-29? I'm not worried about the ti post- I'm 165 lbs. Have heavier folks had problems?

    ncj01, I'm kind of in a bind on that subject. I work in a shop, so I was going to EP the Fisher. Now that I would have to wait a long time, I decided to spend more and use my team sponsorship to get the Airborne. I guess it wouldn't feel "right" to pay retail for the Fisher even though it would be cheaper than the Airborne with my sponsorship, because I know that I could wait a few months and get it for even cheaper. I want to start riding mountain as soon as I get out of school and get the bike built up. If I was going to get the Fisher, I'd probably wait until whenever they are available to my shop so I can EP it. If I am going to buy a bike now, I'd rather spend more on the ti bike (I prefer ti anyways) and support our team sponsor than pay retail for the Fisher. Why pay retail now when I can wait and get it cheaper? Because I'm impatient! I would feel guilty!

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    Order it through Fisher. They have exclusivity this year on the forks.
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    come--on GO BLINGO!

    You're wuss'n out. Haven't you seen the X.O. Full X.O with a sprinkling of ti to boot...oh and some juicy to wash it all down with!!! Serve it up on a dish of Zipps.

    Seriously though...the only thing I would change would be to bag the egg beaters. If you are sold on that type of pedal you need to get the Look 4x4's. If not I highly reccomend times, but this isn't the place for that discussion.

    and for the weather and trails here, you may want to look at some nanoraptors. definitely faster for hardpacked clay here.

    Good luck.
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    Airborne

    Go with the airborne. I had a fisher for two years and then the frame cracked at the BB weld. I do not think this bike is a long term keeper, YMMV. BUT fisher has a great warranty policy. Also my fisher was actually rather heavy and the angles on the frame did not match the advertised specs. Mine was one of the first Mt. Tams available so this may account for the problems. It was a slow handling bike. I ran a CX-1 up front which quickened up the bike a bit. I understand the new fishers are substantially different from the previous models so the above may not matter. Ride one before you buy though. Finally, I just don’t think the aluminum frames are made for the long haul.

    After my fisher broke I bought a B-29, it is an amazing bike. I think the rubbing F.D. issue is something we all have to deal with on 29ers the tire is tucked in close to the seat tube so some rub is always possible, I use gripshifts so I just trim it back after shifting, if you run triggers this may be more of an issue. Avoid the Marz fork. It is heavy, and just not that great of a fork. WB is probably the lightest design with the best track record, the Reba sounds great but hasn’t been around that long and I for one already have one very expensive rockshok fork sitting uselessly in my garage because I can no longer get replacement bushings, and haven’t been able too since two years after the forks release!! I love the airborne post I range between the high 150lb and the mid 160lb range (although I did top out at 170 this fall) depending on the time of year and that post works perfectly for me.

    Also you can save a lot of weight on the wheels. Depending on how you ride you could get away with a light set of road rims. This is my preference but lots of folks don’t like putting 2.1 tires on narrow rims. It doesn’t really matter to me, but I did not like the Jones ACX on narrow rims, it was too much squirm. So if you want the bigger tires and all your rim choice is spot on. Actually I thought that the ACX was squirmy on my 44mm snowcats. The tire is very lightly built so you need to run a little higher pressure to make it feel solid. Also it wears out fast. None of this is really a big problem for a race only tire though, and it’s the price you pay for such a light big tire.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregk
    Thanks for the replies.

    EPO, I'm not too concerned about a 34t. I'm in Indiana, it's flat, and I'd like to think I can take the 32. I'm 165 lbs, race collegiate A's for road and cat 1/2/3 for USCF races. Some of the other guys I ride with have 11-27's on their 26" mountain bikes with no problems.

    bigwheelboy_490, I'll go with the Reba if I can get one. Does RockShox sell it through QBP or any other distributor, or just as OEM equipment on complete bikes?

    Krein, I did read your review. It is a good write-up. That's odd about the new XT derailleur. Do you know if the Sram front derailleur will work with the B-29? I'm not worried about the ti post- I'm 165 lbs. Have heavier folks had problems?

    ncj01, I'm kind of in a bind on that subject. I work in a shop, so I was going to EP the Fisher. Now that I would have to wait a long time, I decided to spend more and use my team sponsorship to get the Airborne. I guess it wouldn't feel "right" to pay retail for the Fisher even though it would be cheaper than the Airborne with my sponsorship, because I know that I could wait a few months and get it for even cheaper. I want to start riding mountain as soon as I get out of school and get the bike built up. If I was going to get the Fisher, I'd probably wait until whenever they are available to my shop so I can EP it. If I am going to buy a bike now, I'd rather spend more on the ti bike (I prefer ti anyways) and support our team sponsor than pay retail for the Fisher. Why pay retail now when I can wait and get it cheaper? Because I'm impatient! I would feel guilty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregk
    ncj01, I'm kind of in a bind on that subject. I work in a shop, so I was going to EP the Fisher.
    I swore a blood oath to not reveal the purchase price at his shop. However, it was a steal, and I would be flat shocked if your EP deal was "significantly" lower. If you were otherwise serious about a fisher, I think you would doing yourself a disservice by not at least calling him...tell him I sent you....if on the otherhand you mostly just need an excuse to not get a fisher, then surf on over to ebay, choose between the IF and RX, both "new" adn both in your size. Buy a fork from the same guy, save a lot. I know somewhere you can buy a nice build kit too.
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    Yeah, I'm not 100% decided on pedals at this point. I have read tons of reviews, and they will all say "I switched from pedal X to pedal Y and they're soooo much better!" Then the next review will say the opposite.

    Anybody have ideas for cranks/bb? I would go with square taper if I anybody still manufactured some nice cranks for it. All the external bearing systems are more expensive at this point. I know ISIS bb's don't last forever, but I think I might end up going with it just because it's cheaper. And preferences on these items- FSA? Truvativ? Race Face? Other?

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