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    Airborne now Becoming Flyte= Aluminium 29er

    So Airborne has been unable to renew the license to their name from Huffy. Effective September 1, they will be known as Flyte (flyte.com) in the USA. There is a new 29er Alumium Frame on that site for $399.

    BTW, for those looking they also have a B-29 in their clerence hanger for $800 in 18".

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    Wow...that's a great deal. 700 for the geared model and 600 for the singlespeed. Someone buy them quick!

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    I especially like this part:

    29" Wheels offer significant advantages in stability and marinating wheel inertia

    I'm gonna go marinate some trails!

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    Not for the vertically blessed of us!

    I looked at the geometry specs. 20" is the biggest size with a 24.4" top tube! Nothing for the big folks. Steep seat tube angles as well. I hope that'll change, as it looks like they are just getting back on their feet here. I kinda like the new look better!
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    Ted, though the low frames are only big enough for like 60% of the market, the steep STA's do add to the top tube length. If everyone uses 73º, an otherwise identical 74º STA frame will seem to have 12mm more top tube.

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    retarded, but doesn't a steeper STA shorten the TT (or ETT), everything else being equal? The closer you get to 90d the more vertical the ST is in relation to flat ground...right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    Ted, though the low frames are only big enough for like 60% of the market, the steep STA's do add to the top tube length. If everyone uses 73º, an otherwise identical 74º STA frame will seem to have 12mm more top tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy
    retarded, but doesn't a steeper STA shorten the TT (or ETT), everything else being equal? The closer you get to 90d the more vertical the ST is in relation to flat ground...right?
    SB, CX is talking about some complicated, although somewhat true, details about sizing that go beyond a simple ETT measurement. Has to do with the relationship between the saddle position and the bb I think...like if you are sitting above, behind, etc the BB...and how that changes with respect to how slack your HT and ST are....for instance, I fit OK on my slack Asylum, whereas I typically ride a larger frame....

    Related, here's a shot of the Flyte 29er, looks sharp for 399 retail. I don't like the integrated/internal whatever HS though.

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    I discussed this in various other threads. To try and put it short : YOU, the rider, decide where the seat ends up relative to the BB. Because there's setback seatposts, and seats can be adjust over 2". So if the STA is steeper, you jsut adjust your seat ~12-14mm futher aft, and get as good a fit and on the otherwise identical 73 bike. Just not the handlebar is 12mm further from the seat.. Also, when sanding up, you'll notice the front end of the bike being longer than on a frame with a slack STA. Wheelbase longer by the same amount.

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    Yeah, I noticed that too...

    Quote Originally Posted by mward
    I especially like this part:

    29" Wheels offer significant advantages in stability and marinating wheel inertia

    I'm gonna go marinate some trails!
    Nothing like marinated wheel inertia! I prefer mine grilled... and as for marinating trails, heck, when you're out in the woods, where else you gonna marinate?
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    Integrated headset- what's the problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by ncj01
    Related, here's a shot of the Flyte 29er, looks sharp for 399 retail. I don't like the integrated/internal whatever HS though.

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    What's the problem with the integrated headset? I don't know anything about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appendage
    What's the problem with the integrated headset? I don't know anything about them.
    problem: you're limited in what HS you can run. For instance, you can't run a King.
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    Nononono, King decided to make their own integrated headset stndard, because that would fit better on there pre-existing bearings. :-)
    Headsets get better every year. No problem on the 29"er I'm currectly riding that's intergrated. It uses some FSA headset. for 29"ers, to get a low enough front end (as low as regular 26"ers, that is), integrated helps. Also, I could see a possible advantage from the oversized headtube for keeping it all stiff?

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    Dreadnaught questions?

    Anybody have or seen a 2004 Dreadnaught. Does it have disc tabs, and if so, how do they work with the horizontal drops?

    The website doesn't give any info about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    Nononono, King decided to make their own integrated headset stndard, because that would fit better on there pre-existing bearings. :-)
    Headsets get better every year. No problem on the 29"er I'm currectly riding that's intergrated. It uses some FSA headset. for 29"ers, to get a low enough front end (as low as regular 26"ers, that is), integrated helps. Also, I could see a possible advantage from the oversized headtube for keeping it all stiff?
    This is news to me if King developed a integrated option. Can you post a link or photo? I thought this product was scheduled to come out right after the elusive King Bottom Bracket??

    The problem with HS's 29er's is not the need to get the front lower, but usually to get the bottom cup taller, to avoid forks hitting the downtube.

    Curious, I wonder if the Flyte is designed such that there will be no problem with the low profile lower cup and the fork/tube clearance, or if it will be worse that usual due to the integrated cup...
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    Nathan, as a King fetishist, you should have known this. Here in Holland one brand sells Perdido-specific frames. People buy them. The brand is smart enough for this, but not for 29" :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    Nathan, as a King fesithist, you should have known this. Here in Holland one brand sells Perdido-specific frames. People buy them. The brand is smart enough for this, but not for 29" :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncj01
    Curious, I wonder if the Flyte is designed such that there will be no problem with the low profile lower cup and the fork/tube clearance, or if it will be worse that usual due to the integrated cup...
    Using my calibrated eyeball, I'd say the crown/DT clearance on this one is going to be horrible, especially since you're losing all the lower cup stack height. That's probably a pre-production frame though.
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    Just a question. It seems like most of the small builders have been going to a 72 degree head angle to help keep the steering sharp with the larger wheels, while others (like Flyte) are staying with 71 degrees. Anyone compared two bikes with the different angles and how they ride.
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    warrenty?

    Quote Originally Posted by CDMC
    So Airborne has been unable to renew the license to their name from Huffy. Effective September 1, they will be known as Flyte (flyte.com) in the USA. There is a new 29er Alumium Frame on that site for $399.

    BTW, for those looking they also have a B-29 in their clerence hanger for $800 in 18".

    http://www.flyte1.com/soar/janette/store/celsius9.asp

    Crap... What happens to my warrenty on my brand new B-29? I think I got the very last 16".

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    I imagine your warranty will still be valid. The company hasn't gone bankrupt, or changed ownership. They've just been forced to rebrand themselves.

    If you really want assurances, just give them a call.

    Found this after. Look at the bottom paragraph.

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    Or you could just click about flyte and read the blurb at the bottom about the warranty.

    Footnote: As of August 30, 2005 Airborne products will no longer be offered for sale in North America. Flyte will however provide ongoing service and support for Airborne products purchased after September 30, 2002**. Service for products meeting purchase / warranty guidelines during this time will be accommodated through Flyte. Direct any questions to [email protected]

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