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    Titec j bars

    Hi
    My j bars arrived today, so could you users of h-bars / j-bars, titec or jones please show me your set ups, espesially if you have them set up different to the ones on the Jones site.

    ie: sti, dual control, gripshift. ???? Only tape, No tape ????

    Just after ideas. Thanx

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    I've had the Titec "H" bar and now have the "J" Bar.

    Shifters? - Shimano dual controls for me.

    The nice thing about the "J" bar is that it can use regular clamp on grips now.

    The "H" Bar was about 1/8" too short in the grip area.

    I tried wrapping the "H" Bar but found I couldn't hold on to it as well as when I have a grip there at the ends of the bars.

    Good luck!

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    Also, if i used a 90mm stem and flat bars before, what stem length will i need for j-bars? 100mm? 110mm?

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    here's mine....

    the wrap takes some time to figure out...I use ESI grips:
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    jones H setup...



    i need to shave a little of the upper lever on the shifters so i can rotate them a bit (currently i can't put my brakes any further downward as they hit the shifter and still have the shifter work properly)...

    i love them on the road... i'm still a little mixed on them for offroad... and think they might be a tad more sweep then is suited for me... still kewl bars and I like the hand positions
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    I love the J-bars. Key to setup is a slight downward angling. I went with a stem that was 20mm longer than I normally would have used. Wrapping it is not hard. Shoot me a PM with you email address and I'll send you the JJ picture tutorial - I got it from another user on the board.

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    I've used the H-bar previous to this and used Ergon grips on there. Super comfy. This time, opted for the tried/true cork like JJ uses - these too are very nice. No reason to go with the Ergons yet, though they reside in my parts box if needed.

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    I have the J-bars on my Pugsley with old 7spd Deore shifters. The center tire tube was temporary. I really didn't feel the need to use any other hand position than the primary.
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    I'm gonna add tape this week...
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    I've never taped them in the 4 years I've owned H- (and more recently, Loop) bars. I spend 99.4% of my time centered on the Ourys. I've had 3 H- and one Loop. Prefer the Loop, except for the price Never tried the Titec versions longer than the parking lot.

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    Cork grips and wrap just like JJ does (well maybe not exactly).
    Wrapping bars is not hard at all and to me looks much neater and gives me more hand positions.






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    I have been having trouble with the position of my J-Bars. After an hour or longer of riding my palms become sore and it's hard to hold onto, control the bike and work the brake levers. Any suggestions? I want to order some ESI Chunky grips to see if that will help. Right now I have moved them to a more horizontal position and I am using the Ruffian bolt on grips. The Ergon grips where way too painful.
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    I'm running my Jones H-bar with tape. I'm using Avid Ultimate Levers and a Paul's Thumbie shifter. Since the picture was taken, I've moved the Paul's shifter about 1.5-2 cm away from the brake as per Jeff's recommendations. So far, it seems to work. But, I'm still experimenting as the bike is only 1 week old
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    I have been using the Ti H bar for awhile. I use paul thumbies and XT brake levers.
    I had them initially with the cork grips and cork tape standard. With the cork grips I felt like my hands were always slipping off and they didn't provide enough bar control. Kind of vague feeling.
    Next I had them set up with Oury grips and Cork bar tape. Worked pretty well. Nice vibration dampning with the grips, and good control.
    Finally I have them set up with the ESI chunky grips and no tape. This set up works the best. About the same comfort level as the Ourys but with amazing bar control, moving/steering the bike is at a whole other level. The ESI grips are pretty long, so I found no need to add the cork bar tape.
    Other than that, angle the bars down slightly, not too much. I find I like having my brake levers reach adj screwed all the way in so the levers are closest to the bars, and set with a good amount of throw for easy one finger braking. I would stick with your 90 mm stem initially. I started with a 100mm and dropped to a 90mm and I find the bike rides, climbs better with the shorter stem. I never have any probs weighting the front wheel, and somehow this position puts me in direct line with the center point of the tire.
    Its not like a normal bar, so don't try to set it up like one. It requires a bit of experimentation to get the most out of it.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by sumluc
    I have been having trouble with the position of my J-Bars. After an hour or longer of riding my palms become sore and it's hard to hold onto, control the bike and work the brake levers. Any suggestions? I want to order some ESI Chunky grips to see if that will help. Right now I have moved them to a more horizontal position and I am using the Ruffian bolt on grips. The Ergon grips where way too painful.
    I had sore hands and numb fingers from using a large sweep bar like the Marys from On-one. I followed a tip on these forums to start out pointing the end of the bars at your rear hub and adjust for personal comfort from there. This set up tip made all the difference. No more trouble!
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    At the mo i have grab on grips and gel bar tape which seems ok, i will be trying other grips as time goes on, i did have yeti lock on's to start with but did not like them. You should try your bars at different angles too. I have a 110mm stem but may try a shorter one soon. It sounds like you are trapping a nerve in your hand maybe? You could see your doctor for advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumluc
    I have been having trouble with the position of my J-Bars. After an hour or longer of riding my palms become sore and it's hard to hold onto, control the bike and work the brake levers. Any suggestions? I want to order some ESI Chunky grips to see if that will help. Right now I have moved them to a more horizontal position and I am using the Ruffian bolt on grips. The Ergon grips where way too painful.
    Two comments:
    1 - J bars are not meant to be horizontal, they're best when angled down towards the rear tire a bit. TR's pictures show this to a degree.

    2- Ergons on a J-bar can be fantastic. The thing about Ergons is you need to play with the angle to find nirvana. I ran Ergon GC2s on my Titec H-bar and found them very, very comfy, but as with number 1, setup is critical.
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    Thanks guys for all the help and suggestions. The biggest issue I am haveing right now is that I don't get enough time to ride! But that's my problem. Thanks again.
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    i've got a set of esi chunky grips on the regular grip area and a set of esi racer grips on the 'bar end' section of the h-bars. love 'em!
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    You guys are all such a bunch of mountain bikers. Of all the self wrapped bars, the only one finished off right is yanpi's with the hawt red fizik tape.

    This is one of my little pet peeves. A bad finish job on wrapping bars.

    Its pretty simple actually. At the end of the your wrap, get out your scissors and cut a roughly 45 to 55 degree angle in your tape. Get out the electrical tape and proceed to tape down the end of the bar tape with some of the electrical tape (like 3 to 5 mm worth) on the bar itself. Pull tightly and wrap the electrical tape all the way around the bar, being careful to NOT proceed inwards toward the stem. Keep going 'round two to three times, taking care to pass over the electrical tape each time. Done! Nice and tidy, And decidedly PRO looking.
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    that'll get you laughed at in a lot of places....
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    No pic for you.

    But I am running my Titec J-bars on my RLMC29er. I am using the black cork grips only! No taping. But I have big hands so even when I drap my hands over the extension nubs I put most of my weight onto the ulnar side of my palms which are still lying over the cork grips. At this time I do not see a reason to wrap the rest of the bar. FWIW, my longest ride on this bar set up is 3 hours. My wrists and palms felt great though. A plus for me with this bar is that I feel better when out of the saddle climbing. Even better then when I was running the Origin 8 Space Bar (Mary knock off).

    Just my .02

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    My H bars

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    Cabling

    Do you typically have to cable your brakes and shifters when installing J or H bars?

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    as others have said, the trick is to point the ends of the bars at your rear hub and start from there.

    i have mine double wrapped with specialized bar phat tape over the gel inserts and they work great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod
    as others have said, the trick is to point the ends of the bars at your rear hub and start from there.

    i have mine double wrapped with specialized bar phat tape over the gel inserts and they work great.

    Nice KM. - what's holding on your computer - Velcro?

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    looks like a steerer tube mounted clamp?

    I don't run J Bars but use bar tape, to finish it off I cut a section of roadie inner tube to cover up the electrical tape.

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    Personally, I simply put Oury grips on my Titec bars. I use the main position about 99% of the time, so wrapping the bar seemed a bit useless. I suppose it all boils down to personal preference, really.

    Concerning stems: I didn't go for a longer stem, but bear in mind that the Titec H-Bar bends forward slightly. The J-Bar and the original Jones bar do not do this.

    I remember Jeff himself saying that a longer stem was not what he had in mind when designing the bars. If you like a stretched position, you might disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    Nice KM. - what's holding on your computer - Velcro?
    thanks, perhaps i'll take the compliment as an opportunity to post some gratuitous monkey shots.

    computer mount is steerer mounted. i love it and have gone to these on all my bikes. the display is large, offers lots of information, and all info can be scrolled through quickly. at only $45 its a great deal for a wireless computer too. they come in red, black, and white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I love the J-bars. Key to setup is a slight downward angling. I went with a stem that was 20mm longer than I normally would have used. Wrapping it is not hard. Shoot me a PM with you email address and I'll send you the JJ picture tutorial - I got it from another user on the board.

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    I've used the H-bar previous to this and used Ergon grips on there. Super comfy. This time, opted for the tried/true cork like JJ uses - these too are very nice. No reason to go with the Ergons yet, though they reside in my parts box if needed.

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    Could you send me the JJ picture tutorial, too?

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    Wilhelm - shoot me your email address via PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
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    To all those that helped, thanks! I picked up some ESI Chunky's and adjusted the position of the bars to point more to the rear axel and it has made a world of difference. I will need to raise my brake levers just a bit, but other than that things are looking up. The bike handled like a dream yesterday and no pain at all! And for those that know I rode Lodi/Hollywood Farms so they got tested!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    I ran Ergon GC2s on my Titec H-bar and found them very, very comfy, but as with number 1, setup is critical.
    GLG,
    This is interesting. You wouldn't happen to have a pic of the H-bar with the GC2s would you? I've never seen an H-bar with bar ends before. Wouldn't they be sticking out too much? (tree catcher?)
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel
    GLG,
    This is interesting. You wouldn't happen to have a pic of the H-bar with the GC2s would you? I've never seen an H-bar with bar ends before. Wouldn't they be sticking out too much? (tree catcher?)
    Mine didn't have bar ends....I might have used the wrong G something code. I had the Leichtbau version, no bar ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo
    Mine didn't have bar ends....I might have used the wrong G something code. I had the Leichtbau version, no bar ends.
    OK. Thanks for that clarification.
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    If anyones got that tutorial for wrapping the bars can they pass it on to me, monkeyspacepilot at yahoo dot com

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkesm
    If anyones got that tutorial for wrapping the bars can they pass it on to me, monkeyspacepilot at yahoo dot com

    thanks
    I sent you the tutorial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gravedoja
    Hi
    My j bars arrived today, so could you users of h-bars / j-bars, titec or jones please show me your set ups, espesially if you have them set up different to the ones on the Jones site.

    ie: sti, dual control, gripshift. ???? Only tape, No tape ????

    Just after ideas. Thanx
    I just added Titec H-Bars to my gearie steed. So far, I dig it. I'm not sure it is any better for my wrist pain than my regular riser carbon bars, but I do like the hand position. Feels like I'm able to 'aim the gun' better and more confidently while railing a nice ribbon of singletrack.

    My setup:

    Titus RacerX 29er, medium with 24" ETT
    Sette Edge stem, 110mm -7 degree negative rise, polished silver run inverted (the same one I used with the riser bar)
    Titec H-Bar
    XTR M965 dual control shifters for Hydraulic brakes
    Oury grips
    Performance Bike bar tape from grip to the first cross top bend

    I had to re-cable and hose my bike. I left my cables and hoses plenty long in my initial setup with the riser bar, but they were still too short by about 3 inches at least for the H-bar. I'm still tweaking my setup for more comfort.

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    the distance you have between the inner end of the grips (in most of these pictures) to where the brake clamps are looks like your hands have to move off the grips for braking. I'm having tendonitis probs and need a bar that points rearward like the J-bar and allows full braking on the downhills without moving the hands off the grips or more importantly, having the crux of the thumb-forfinger web pushed against the bars. Comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankspd
    the distance you have between the inner end of the grips (in most of these pictures) to where the brake clamps are looks like your hands have to move off the grips for braking. I'm having tendonitis probs and need a bar that points rearward like the J-bar and allows full braking on the downhills without moving the hands off the grips or more importantly, having the crux of the thumb-forfinger web pushed against the bars. Comments?


    H-Bar with fr5 levers and grip shift , no problem for me to one brake with one finger , could be a problem with someone with smaller hands though . Good luck .

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    I also have tendinitis and have found Jeff's bars very comfy. I've only used them on a SS though, so no shifter to manipulate.
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    I think people with larger hands have an easier time with the H-Bars. I can just reach the brake levers without having to move my hands around much. They are really comfy, I find the shape is spot-on. I don't really use the alt positions while on single track, but for gravel grinding / road rides it's nice to em'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    I think people with larger hands have an easier time with the H-Bars. I can just reach the brake levers without having to move my hands around much. They are really comfy, I find the shape is spot-on. I don't really use the alt positions while on single track, but for gravel grinding / road rides it's nice to em'.
    I found I only really use the outer bars in a choked in position or a wide position. I sometimes get on the inboard position, but I found it isn't that useful except in an aero tuck. I put my hands where the tube joint is as well.

    Dang, I should have payed closer attention to that bar wrap doc. I basically just doubled up the tape on the outers for more cush, but it came out looking a bit sloppy. I forgot about the trick where you use short bits of tape then wrap it all together, like around the brakes on a drop bar bike. I might have to go re-wrap them, now.

    I also got a set of these comfy grips from Performance Bike when they were on sale for $4. Heck, $4, worth a try, right? Turns out they are ugly as heck, but pretty dang comfy and work pretty well. Poor man's Ergons without bar clamps, so you have to be extra credit sterile on everything when you install them, or they rotate.

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    I run really old Jones Ti H-Bar. The "horns" aren't curved... that's the age of mine.

    I do not mount my brake levers on the horns. I mount them on the "handle" side so that I have more than a finger on them.

    I use a Paul Thumbie / DuraAce / M952 XTR rear in a 1x9 setup. The Thumbie is mounted to the horn. ESI Chunky is what I use for grips. If I had to do over, I'd get rid of them and go cork.

    Don't think I'll ever use anything else. I even tried the Titec kind, and didn't like them...

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    brake lever distance

    Let me ask my original question with fewer words, how many fingers can you get on the lever for those that mount it forward of the bars. Not interested in those with ape hands that can span the entire length of your downtube!

    For those that mount the brakes on the same side as the grips, does this mean cutting the grips to a shorter length or is there room for both grip and brake clamp?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankspd
    Let me ask my original question with fewer words, how many fingers can you get on the lever for those that mount it forward of the bars. Not interested in those with ape hands that can span the entire length of your downtube!

    For those that mount the brakes on the same side as the grips, does this mean cutting the grips to a shorter length or is there room for both grip and brake clamp?

    Thanks!
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    I have fairly long fingers, I can get two fingers on my brake levers (mounted forward of the bars) fairly easily. Secure braking is not an issue.

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    This is my set up, Surly Karate Monkey with J-bar. It's a single speed, so no shifters. I'm having a lot of problems with hand numbness. I don't know if it's the Bontrager grips, the lack of front suspension, or my 56-year old hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveS29er View Post
    This is my set up, Surly Karate Monkey with J-bar. It's a single speed, so no shifters. I'm having a lot of problems with hand numbness. I don't know if it's the Bontrager grips, the lack of front suspension, or my 56-year old hands.
    Hand numbness generally comes from putting too much weight on your hands. Try loosening your bars, and tilting the ends down a little bit. Add some core work to focus on lower back strength too. If that doesn't work, see the LBS for a fitting and try some Ergons.
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    Agree with GLG.
    Hard to tell from that picture but it looks to me that you have that bar set up pretty flat.
    I generally find I angle my bar ends pointing down at a similar angle to that which my stem angles down toward the fork steerer.
    Alternatively put your hands out in front of you with your fingers curled as if you were gripping something and look at the natural angle your hands fall into (dont force them into a position). This angle is how you want the bar ends to angle at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveS29er View Post
    This is my set up, Surly Karate Monkey with J-bar. It's a single speed, so no shifters. I'm having a lot of problems with hand numbness. I don't know if it's the Bontrager grips, the lack of front suspension, or my 56-year old hands.
    As helpful as people are trying to be, they only know what works for them, they cannot know what will work for you. You have to experiment.

    I'm 63 and would say I agree with the core workout tip, though. You are going to need that for sure. I went back to the gym to get ALL muscles in tone and strengthened and it worked. Also, if you are in love with the idea of no suspension and are having hand issues, I'd say look at that choice more honestly unless you're doing over 80% road on it.

    I took that rigid front end off and replaced it with a Rockshox rather soon because I WAS CLUTCHING THE GRIPS too much. I ended up having to quit riding for 3 stinking months til the hands calmed down. Got the J-bars, stopped clutching too tightly ESPECIALLY downhill, problem solved.

    See a sports medicine oriented orthopedist. Non sports oriented doctors do not give one doo-doo about the needs of people who are in shape and want to stay that way. They deal with jelly belly types who need joint replacement and spinal fusions from complete lifelong inactivity. When I told the 1st ortho that I needed to get the hand thing fixed cause I wanted to race, he did not acknowledge that need at all so I switched doctors.

    Best of luck finding your personalized solution.

    Best of luck figuring out what YOU need.

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    Thanks folks! I do believe in core strength, and have been doing Body Pump for about a year and a half. I will try pointing the hand grips down a bit, and looking and the natural position of my hands when held out over the grips. I am also looking for an 80mm suspension fork w disc brake mounts. And maybe some hand grips that are more cushioning.

    I'm only 7 yr behind you, crankspd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveS29er View Post
    Thanks folks! I do believe in core strength, and have been doing Body Pump for about a year and a half. I will try pointing the hand grips down a bit, and looking and the natural position of my hands when held out over the grips. I am also looking for an 80mm suspension fork w disc brake mounts. And maybe some hand grips that are more cushioning.

    I'm only 7 yr behind you, crankspd!
    I like ESI Chunkies on my J bars.

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    chunkies

    I did consider them at one point, glad to hear you found them to work, I'll keep that in mind in case of future hand problems.

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    Couple things. One, any chance someone could forward me the bar wrap tutorial? I had it at one time and must have deleted it by accident. Got some h bars waiting to be done up. Two, anyone have some j bars they'd be willing to trade for h bars, or just have some j bars to sell??? And third, I spoke with Jeff Jones a couple weeks ago about bar setup. The conversation originally started about why he doesn't suggest Ergon grips on his bars. Long story short, if you have the right bar angle and stem length, you shouldn't need the platform design of the Ergons, Jeff's bar should do that for you. You also lose out on some other grip options with Ergons as they get in the way. Jeff said for straight bars the Ergon's definitely make sense, but they sort of go against the mindset he had for making the j/h bars. I also found out that I had my stem/seatpost/bar set up somewhat ass backwards to what it should be. Again long story short, the idea is to get as much of yourself over the back wheel so you make the front end light and easy to maneuver over obstacles, etc. So on went a Thomson setback and a Thomson stem should be here tomorrow along with some ESI Chunky grips. I also have some paul thumbies on the way so I can use the barcon shifters from my Crosscheck. So hopefully I have a Jonesish setup when I'm done. Having the setback post already seems better. Can't wait for shorter stem and thumbies for full effect.
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    I should've added too that I'd be interested in some aluminum loop bars if someone had them for sale as well.
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    And seeing as how I'm a shmuck, I'll post something in the wanted ads....
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    thanks, perhaps i'll take the compliment as an opportunity to post some gratuitous monkey shots.

    computer mount is steerer mounted. i love it and have gone to these on all my bikes. the display is large, offers lots of information, and all info can be scrolled through quickly. at only $45 its a great deal for a wireless computer too. they come in red, black, and white.



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