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    2019 RockShox SID Ultimate Carbon Fork

    Apparently an update to the RockShox SID World Cup is coming. I had this note drop in my inbox after contacting a SRAM distributor in Chengdu:

    "Sram will change the sid wc, the new model named sid ultimate carbon fork."

    When I asked about the weight, they said that "The sram office said it's 1.5kg".

    They thought it would be coming soon enough that I should wait for it. Any insider insights?

    ...and does that mean there may be a new Fox Float 32 on the way too?

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    So they're updating their flagship fork that has a carbon upper yet manages to still be heavier than a 32 sc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schulze View Post
    So they're updating their flagship fork that has a carbon upper yet manages to still be heavier than a 32 sc.
    Yep, it's disappointing if they can't cut the weight any more than it is. I'm more curious about the nature of the upgrade, since it's getting a new name and not just a new model year there must be something in the internals or the chassis design.

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    Iíll be interested in what they modify from the existing fork. Isnít the current WC 1.5kg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dromos123 View Post
    Iíll be interested in what they modify from the existing fork. Isnít the current WC 1.5kg?
    Yes, the current WC is 1.5kg. Their chassis is still pretty burly, IMO.

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    Just found this thread after reading the Bike Check of Kateís new Scott. I guess this also explains the retro SID Blue forks on the Trek squad. Tempting if I can get it in blue to match my Ď99 SID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zgxtreme View Post
    Just found this thread after reading the Bike Check of Kateís new Scott. I guess this also explains the retro SID Blue forks on the Trek squad. Tempting if I can get it in blue to match my Ď99 SID.
    Yeah, FWIW this is what Pavel-Repak said in reply to my comment on Pinkbike:

    "RS is redoing the lineup yet again. According to Barelli on IG, the Lyrik Ult. has a better damper and the article said the SID has more neg volume, so good chance all the forks will be getting more neg. volume. Same goes for the shocks."
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    I'm thinking of buying a SID 29 Ultimate carbon fork but I'm unsure which offset I should go for.
    Currently I have two XC bikes, both have Fox OEM forks and checked them by the 4-digit ID, both have 44mm rake/offset.
    So I'm tending to go for the 42mm SID, but somehow the question mark still exists in my head.
    42mm or 51mm?

    The frame is a Canyon Grand Canyon CF SL (model year 2016) with 70į headtube (70į sagged, 69.5į unsagged, if my understanding is right based on the document I found on site canyon.com)

    thanks a lot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by semmiho View Post
    I'm thinking of buying a SID 29 Ultimate carbon fork but I'm unsure which offset I should go for.
    Currently I have two XC bikes, both have Fox OEM forks and checked them by the 4-digit ID, both have 44mm rake/offset.
    So I'm tending to go for the 42mm SID, but somehow the question mark still exists in my head.
    42mm or 51mm?

    The frame is a Canyon Grand Canyon CF SL (model year 2016) with 70į headtube (70į sagged, 69.5į unsagged, if my understanding is right based on the document I found on site canyon.com)

    thanks a lot!
    After the input I got from manufacturer (Canyon), I went for the 42mm version. They provided me very useful information.
    FYI, just received it, the blue colour is really cool, quality looks top! Weight is 1487 grams with uncut steerer, axle included. 29er, Boost, 100mm travel, DebonAir.
    2019 RockShox SID Ultimate Carbon Fork-large_img_3283.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by semmiho View Post
    After the input I got from manufacturer (Canyon), I went for the 42mm version. They provided me very useful information.
    FYI, just received it, the blue colour is really cool, quality looks top! Weight is 1487 grams with uncut steerer, axle included. 29er, Boost, 100mm travel, DebonAir.
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    should have waited a couple of weeks, there is a new SID coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    should have waited a couple of weeks, there is a new SID coming.
    Yep, true, I saw the new Reba 2021 already and thought, maybe a new SID will also come.

    2021 Reba pics: https://r2-bike.com/ROCK-SHOX-Federg...d-schwarz-2021

    It seems the leg changed a bit and weight listed as 1585g, which is 15 grams lighter than the 'normal' SID Ultimate (if weight data is correct - 1585g and also 1602g weights mentioned on the linked page).
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    New SID Ultimate SL. Only aluminum crown, no carbon anymore. Looks like a FOX 32SC, narrow crown.




    New SID Ultimate SL (left) and prev SID Ultimate (right)

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    Could you please link these pictures again? Not visible by some reason.

    Just found this, Nino's Cape Epic bike, must have been the 2021 SID: 2019 RockShox SID Ultimate Carbon Fork-scott-spark-rc_2020_n1no-special-edition_by-jochen-haar_1600jha_3016-1504220.jpg
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    I want that new SID SL fork for my XC whip!

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    Can this be did be extended to 120?

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    Thanks for the link!
    Looks really cool!
    Ouch, I did a mistake by purchasing the 2020 version
    ...okay, if the new damper will be available separately (like in case of 'normal' charger2, which is retrofittable down to MY2016 (in some cases MY2012), hopefully RS will offer the new race day damper separately.

    Hm, building a new 'ultimate' fork from a 2020 Carbon Ultimate upper and 2021 Ultimate damper+lower legs could be sub-1300 gram race fork, I guess. (if somebody would have infinite money... unfortunately, I'm not that person...:/)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbrockenchain View Post
    Can this be did be extended to 120?
    There's 2 SIDs now. Think of them as direct competition to the 32 and 32 step casts.

    SID SL - 32 SC (100mm only)
    SID - 34 SC (120mm only)

    I would take the SID over the 34SC because of the 35mm stanchions and the FIT4 damper while it has more tuning options they kinda useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    should have waited a couple of weeks, there is a new SID coming.
    Using the old 2020 SID Ultimate carbon already, fine-tuned it with Quarq ShockWiz and using the Quarq ShockWiz App. The old Charger damper works very nicely.
    Nevertheless, the weight could be reduced by 130 grams, by replacing the stock damper to the new Race Day damper, which is available separately (not cheap though).
    https://r2-bike.com/ROCK-SHOX-Upgrad...SID-REBA-32-mm
    2019 RockShox SID Ultimate Carbon Fork-rock-shox-upgrade-kit-charger-race-day-crown-damper-sid-reba-32-mm.jpg

    Steerer cut down to ~18.2 cm (-26 grams, 1461g). Used a Trickstuff Ahead set (~14 grams) for installing, which is a bit heavier than Extralite's superlight option but still pretty OK - and much-much lighter than the one I got with the fork.
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    Tuned my 2020 SID Ultimate Carbon fork. ~130 g weight saving in overall - plus, air top cap replaced to a minimalist scrader valve cap - in blue, matching to the colour of the fork.

    before removing the old Charger2 damper:
    2019 RockShox SID Ultimate Carbon Fork-img-4139.jpg

    Charger2 (without the red screw, lockout assembly and rebound):
    2019 RockShox SID Ultimate Carbon Fork-img-4140b.jpg

    Race Day damber (without rebound adjuster, nut and lockout - anyway, all of these are only 7 grams!):
    2019 RockShox SID Ultimate Carbon Fork-img-4142b.jpg
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