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    Yelli Screamy by Canfield ?

    So I was checking out the Canfield website to see how they are progressing with the Nimble Nine and I see they are offering a new Aluminum alloy HT 29er model called the Yelli Screamy ! Geo sounds interesting : 16.7 " chainstays , 69 degree HTA w 100mm fork , and will come in a XL size as well for us taller peeps ! Man , even though I'm not really a big HT fan this frame sounds interesting for a nice little playbike ! TIG.

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    Knew this was coming, got to go check their site now.

    The Nimble 9 is still coming and last I heard it's another 2-3 months out.

    I was told that it looks a lot different than the original look and will be SS only.
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    Wow, I'm impressed! Now I'm even more eager to see the final Nimble 9 design.
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    Inter-resting...very inter-resting...

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    fantastic freakin name.

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    Cool geometry

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    http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/products/yelli-screamy

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    16.7" Chainstays!!!!!

    16.7" Chainstays, and way better looking than the Nimble 9...IMO.
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    Anybody find BB height?

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    Is this actually available, or just vapor ware like the Nimble 9 has proven to be thus far?


    Edit: It says "Buy Now." This looks like a great option in the hardtail arena. Very unique bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    Anybody find BB height?
    BB drop is on the diagram (as is reach!!). 70mm for 487a-c fork gives you an estimated 11.75" with the short fork. I would guess around 12.5-13" with a 120mm fork

    That is possibly the most thorough geometry diagram I have ever seen. Well done Canfields
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    is this slacker than the Pardox using the same fork ?
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    However....

    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Is this actually available, or just vapor ware like the Nimble 9 has proven to be thus far?


    Edit: It says "Buy Now." This looks like a great option in the hardtail arena. Very unique bike.

    ...If you click on "Buy Now," there isn't one to buy.
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    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by 20.100 FR
    is this slacker than the Pardox using the same fork ?
    The Paradox is 70d with a 100mm, 69d with 120mm. The CS are also shorter on the Yelli.

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    it comes in gold? I am so sold. Get these available flymybike!
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    Very interesting bike for sure and as Enel said, the geo chart really does give you everything and see what your particular size frame will actually look like, HOWEVER, too bad they have a web designer who doesn't seem to think that anyone uses over a 1024 resolution for their monitors I can hardly read the type on my 17" wide screen @ 1650 x 1050 and it's a jpeg, so you can't even scale it up using the font scaling feature in most browsers these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    BB drop is on the diagram (as is reach!!). 70mm for 487a-c fork gives you an estimated 11.75" with the short fork. I would guess around 12.5-13" with a 120mm fork

    That is possibly the most thorough geometry diagram I have ever seen. Well done Canfields
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    So forgive me a newb question, but for those of you who ride slacked out bikes with shorter stays, would you recommend the 120mm fork or the 100mm fork. I ask because the website highlights the HA with the 100mm fork. I'm wondering if that's what they, essentially, designed the frame around and are recommending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    BB drop is on the diagram (as is reach!!). 70mm for 487a-c fork gives you an estimated 11.75" with the short fork. I would guess around 12.5-13" with a 120mm fork

    That is possibly the most thorough geometry diagram I have ever seen. Well done Canfields

    Now we're talking. I originally looked at it and was scratching my head at the sub 12" resultant BB height. Forgot to take into account longer forks.

    16.7" cs + 12.7"(+) bb =

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesenator
    ...If you click on "Buy Now," there isn't one to buy.

    The Yelli Screamy's are finished. They have been on the boat for about 2 weeks.
    Should be here in about a week or so.

    The frame was designed for 80-120mm forks.
    I have a 100mm Fox float on mine running a 69 degree head angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cSquared
    The Yelli Screamy's are finished. They have been on the boat for about 2 weeks.
    Should be here in about a week or so.

    The frame was designed for 80-120mm forks.
    I have a 100mm Fox float on mine running a 69 degree head angle.

    Post up a pic or two!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach
    Now we're talking. I originally looked at it and was scratching my head at the sub 12" resultant BB height. Forgot to take into account longer forks. 16.7" cs + 12.7"(+) bb =
    The spec sheet is a little unusual in that the length of the "80mm Fox fork" varies depending on frame size from 468mm for the XL to 487mm on the S. I can't make much sense of that.

    It seems safe to assume the BB drop is 70mm with a 468 fork (~11.75" BB depending on tires). A sagged 120mm fork has an a-c around 500mm, so BB drop would be around 57mm in the sagged position which puts you at 12.3" when riding the bike. Add 1/2" unsagged, if that is what you are used to looking at spec wise= 12.7"

    I think if I were designing a hardtail for me personally, it would not be far off this. I just re-measured the Simon Bar and it is 70mm BB drop and 70 degree HTA with a short rigid fork.
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    Hopefully we'll get a ride report from a credible source like twentynineinches.com soon as I'd love to see how it performs

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    Quote Originally Posted by djembe975
    Hopefully we'll get a ride report from a credible source like twentynineinches.com soon as I'd love to see how it performs
    I'm sure as long as there is a free bike involved we will get a glowing review from twentynineinches.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    So forgive me a newb question, but for those of you who ride slacked out bikes with shorter stays, would you recommend the 120mm fork or the 100mm fork. I ask because the website highlights the HA with the 100mm fork. I'm wondering if that's what they, essentially, designed the frame around and are recommending?

    I have a custom frame with 16.5 CS and a sagged HA at 69.5 (100mm) and 68.5 (120mm)
    The bike never feels sluggish in either position but it certainly climbs a bit better at 100mm. However I am sure that with some small cockpit adjustments I could get climbing just as good at 120mm. BTW, that is w/ a TALAS fork so I can switch back and forth at will. Which I would highly recommend for a frame like the Canfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.I.T.nj
    I have a custom frame with 16.5 CS and a sagged HA at 69.5 (100mm) and 68.5 (120mm)
    The bike never feels sluggish in either position but it certainly climbs a bit better at 100mm. However I am sure that with some small cockpit adjustments I could get climbing just as good at 120mm. BTW, that is w/ a TALAS fork so I can switch back and forth at will. Which I would highly recommend for a frame like the Canfield.
    Good info., thanks. I saw the build thread on your bike, and it's sweet. With similar HA to the canefield, your advice on the Talas will be considered. By the way, what's the bb height on your new bike?

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    The one thing that I'd like to know with slack angled 29er like this is are they on the slow side of handling or do the short stays balance it out? With many of the production 29ers out there it seems that 71 to 72 degrees heat tube angle seems to be the norm

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    Quote Originally Posted by djembe975
    The one thing that I'd like to know with slack angled 29er like this is are they on the slow side of handling or do the short stays balance it out? With many of the production 29ers out there it seems that 71 to 72 degrees heat tube angle seems to be the norm
    probably a similar difference in handling between slack 26" am hardtails and 26" xc hardtails that often have steeper angles too

    no offense, but many people tend to think of 29ers more as a category of bikes than as a wheel size that can be applied to different categories of bikes. Short stays can make a bike feel more "lively", "playful" or "nimble" and you will be able to turn the bike a bit easier with your body, but the steering alone will still be slower and will force you to use your body more to be maneuverable

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Very interesting bike for sure and as Enel said, the geo chart really does give you everything and see what your particular size frame will actually look like, HOWEVER, too bad they have a web designer who doesn't seem to think that anyone uses over a 1024 resolution for their monitors I can hardly read the type on my 17" wide screen @ 1650 x 1050 and it's a jpeg, so you can't even scale it up using the font scaling feature in most browsers these days.
    Sweet. Coolest most exciting bike to be posted in a long time and you rag on the web developer and how it is posted on them internets! Almost feels like DC got into some Jamaican ganga and hijacked your account....... wanna borrow my bifocals? hehehe

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    Hopefully we'll get a ride report from a credible source like twentynineinches.com soon as I'd love to see how it performs
    Yep, hucking that long travel All Mountain bike across the huge drops and gnarly rock strewn descents of the Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska lands with the 5000 vertical foot 15 mile descents after climbing to the sky all morning..... oh, wait. Uh......
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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus
    Yep, hucking that long travel All Mountain bike across the huge drops and gnarly rock strewn descents of the Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska lands with the 5000 vertical foot 15 mile descents after climbing to the sky all morning..... oh, wait. Uh......
    You know that there are contributors to TNI from other locales, right? Just checking.
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    Yelli Screamy by Canfield?

    The head-tube length on the XL is about an inch too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <-meathucker->
    I'm sure as long as there is a free bike involved we will get a glowing review from twentynineinches.com
    Guitar Ted is probably too nice to respond, but I am not. That is a direct attack on the character of the writer/testers at that site, including myself. Not cool, especially since the review commentaries do not bear this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    You know that there are contributors to TNI from other locales, right? Just checking.
    Yes, and I forgot the smilie (fixt, uh... ). Not every bike you test is prefect for your test conditions, given your ability to travel the globe with your $$$ million dollar test budget was what I was trying to say. Even though the Canfield Bros might be a little biased , but I feel they are better qualified to test this one; I doubt mikesee or buddies will fly this to its limits, let alone the 29".com crew. Just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus
    Yes, and I forgot the smilie (fixt, uh... ). Not every bike you test is prefect for your test conditions, given your ability to travel the globe with your $$$ million dollar test budget was what I was trying to say. Even though the Canfield Bros might be a little biased , but I feel they are better qualified to test this one; I doubt mikesee or buddies will fly this to its limits, let alone the 29".com crew. Just sayin'...
    No worries, Tim. I told GT all about you

    And I agree...I am certainly not the perfect test rider for this type of bike, seeing as how you and I like the same type of rides/bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtroy
    Guitar Ted is probably too nice to respond, but I am not. That is a direct attack on the character of the writer/testers at that site, including myself. Not cool, especially since the review commentaries do not bear this out.

    You are way off here and your character is showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    probably a similar difference in handling between slack 26" am hardtails and 26" xc hardtails that often have steeper angles too

    no offense, but many people tend to think of 29ers more as a category of bikes than as a wheel size that can be applied to different categories of bikes. Short stays can make a bike feel more "lively", "playful" or "nimble" and you will be able to turn the bike a bit easier with your body, but the steering alone will still be slower and will force you to use your body more to be maneuverable
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaredbadams
    The head-tube length on the XL is about an inch too short.
    I've got the same issue with the seat tube I wouldn't be able to run an adjustable seatpost on this. I prefer some of the features of this over the Paradox (Tapered, direct mount) but the geometry isn't going to work for me.

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    Geometry pictures for the smaller sizes say ISCG mounts (03?) but the larger ones don't. It is not in the photos either.

    What is correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    Good info., thanks. I saw the build thread on your bike, and it's sweet. With similar HA to the canefield, your advice on the Talas will be considered. By the way, what's the bb height on your new bike?
    12.25 at 100mm. I find it to be perfect so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    +1

    Spot on

    +2 This geo really responds best to a more "DH" style of riding. Full commitment, lots of body english, toss it in and ride the rear wheel out......When you treat it like that it simply rips the way now long stayed steep angled frame can. All depends on how active you like to be on the bike. My .02c

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    This is very relevant to my interests. (lets see some pics of a complete bike)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
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    Does anyone have an idea on rear tire capacity? It looks like the Rockshox seatpost will be long enough for me. So, it's back in the running for finding a home beneath my Christmas tree if I can fit good sized rubber in it.

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    ...is it just me or does the design of the ultra short chainstays bear a striking resemblance with the BY:STICKEL custom frames?!? Don't know if Canfield Brothers deliberately intended to copy it or anything but I still think Steve was first and he deserves some credit

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=639443
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=508480
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=7015325

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    No he's not

    Quote Originally Posted by megalow maniac
    ...is it just me or does the design of the ultra short chainstays bear a striking resemblance with the BY:STICKEL custom frames?!? Don't know if Canfield Brothers deliberately intended to copy it or anything but I still think Steve was first and he deserves some credit

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=639443
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=508480
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=7015325
    Maybe the first you are aware of though.

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    Nobody has a pic of one built up, proto or otherwise?

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    There's a few more detail pics at:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/933882...7624667083519/

    But no built up

    The German site has a pic of the frame in silver:



    https://www.canfieldbrothers.de/site_de.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by megalow maniac
    ...is it just me or does the design of the ultra short chainstays bear a striking resemblance with the BY:STICKEL custom frames?!?

    Good point.....looks like a nice frame to reintroduce me back into the HT scene without spending alot of coin ! TIG.

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    personnally Î'm more interested in seeing the gold and silver options than a built up...

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    Thanks for the links looks good in silver as well...

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    69* on a 29er = cheating in the tech. I know, my BS RAM devours rock gardens like they're not there, and with a shorter stem, those short stays should mean pulling ledgey ups are e-z and climbs are balanced... also that 69* HTA will make the downs delicious as well.

    Well done canfields!

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    Quote Originally Posted by megalow maniac
    ...is it just me or does the design of the ultra short chainstays bear a striking resemblance with the BY:STICKEL custom frames?!? Don't know if Canfield Brothers deliberately intended to copy it or anything but I still think Steve was first and he deserves some credit

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=639443
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=508480
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=7015325

    Pretty sure that bb/st/dt layout showed up first on downhill bikes. Could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefriar
    69* on a 29er = cheating in the tech. I know, my BS RAM devours rock gardens like they're not there, and with a shorter stem, those short stays should mean pulling ledgey ups are e-z and climbs are balanced... also that 69* HTA will make the downs delicious as well.

    Well done canfields!

    No doubt........it's beastieful ! TIG.
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    Here is a pic of a gold complete build from I believe one of the brother's bike

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    thanks... I knew there was a pic out there somewhere.

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    This thread needs some more build pics .....please.

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    That bike is the first bike to get assembled so we could check geometry and fit. We just rushed it together with parts we had so we could reliese the geometry and annouce that they will be here next week. Chris is in Germany for Eurobike, when he returns we will be getting a few more together for Interbike. Until then I have no pics or even one for myself. The Yelli Screamy is available in Black, Silver and Gold (pictured) anodized colors and small, medium, large and XL sizes.

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    ...I'm excited to see one @ interbike, what size is the gold one that's built up ?

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    Can someone post the geo graphic so it can actually be read?

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    Nice addition to the pool of options. Still waiting on a FS 29er from the Canfields...

    I agree re the static HT length and there are many others guilty of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er
    Can someone post the geo graphic so it can actually be read?
    At least on the German site it becomes large enough to read when I use my browser's zoom function (View > Zoom > 200% or press "Ctrl" and "+")

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    [QUOTE=Soupboy]Nice addition to the pool of options. Still waiting on a FS 29er from the Canfields...


    Yes, I'd like to see a FS 29er from them too. I know they had the DH prototype, but I'd like to see something that could climb hills as well.

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    Available before or after interbike? Just wondering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er
    Can someone post the geo graphic so it can actually be read?
    The complete shown is a large. They will be here on the 10th so it's possible to get one just before I-bike. We designed it to fit all 29" tires, just need to get my hands on one to verify.
    Here they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike
    We designed it to fit all 29" tires
    Excellent. Can't wait to see some build pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike
    The complete shown is a large. They will be here on the 10th so it's possible to get one just before I-bike. We designed it to fit all 29" tires, just need to get my hands on one to verify.
    Here they are.
    The ETT, STA, and reach on these diagrams is based on which fork length?
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    Based on the 80mm fork. It's a fairly small change in dimensions compared to the longer forks. The numbers become slacker and smaller as the fork height increases.

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    You guys going to be at Outdoor Demo again this year?

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    Yes, we'll just be riding so just give us a call and we'll find you. We'll have a few Yelli Screams with us to ride.

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    I'm diggin this bike.

    At 5'9", wondering if I should go with the medium?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    At 5'9", wondering if I should go with the medium?
    At about the same height... I think I'd like the Small, but I seem to get along with pretty compact frames. Medium with a short stem might work too.

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    I'm thinkin small as well, I really hope I get a chance to ride both sizes @ Interbike. Ah hell, who am I kidding, I'll be stoked just to see one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGMAN
    Man , even though I'm not really a big HT fan this frame sounds interesting for a nice little playbike ! TIG.
    Chris Canfield was pretty darn excited and telling the girls about it at Eurobike today!

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    Now we know the reason for the delays in getting the Nimble Nine. Dude, get to work.

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    Hmm...those girls have shirts just painted on, no? I think I wouldn't be rubbing my nipple. Maybe part of that crazy Euro. mating ritual?
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    Are there any decent build pics yet?

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    Thanks to Ojos Azules for this pic of the Yelli. Go check out the full Eurobike pic post:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/mybikeri...55899731886226

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    Only a couple more days until this frame is available. How many others have one pre-ordered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whydomylegshurt?
    Only a couple more days until this frame is available. How many others have one pre-ordered?
    I wish
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    So I was over at the Canfield online shop looking at ordering the frame and there I find a 29inch wheelset listed too. The site lists the set as available in QR or 15mm front and 150x12 rear. Correct me if I'm wrong or newbish, but doesn't the website list the yelli as having a 135x10 rear? Will the wheelset work with the frame? Does anybody know anything about the wheelset, such as rims and hubs?

    http://canfieldbrothers.com/shop/products-page/29ers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    So I was over at the Canfield online shop looking at ordering the frame and there I find a 29inch wheelset listed too. The site lists the set as available in QR or 15mm front and 150x12 rear. Correct me if I'm wrong or newbish, but doesn't the website list the yelli as having a 135x10 rear? Will the wheelset work with the frame? Does anybody know anything about the wheelset, such as rims and hubs?

    http://canfieldbrothers.com/shop/products-page/29ers/
    pretty sure that's a typo -- makes no sense to sell a wheelset w/ a QR front hub and a 150 mm rear hub.
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    I'm really interested to hear some ride reports on this frame. I had been looking at the Yeti Big Top, but the shorter chainstays and triple water bottle mounts, not to mention the lower price tag have me very intrigued. I'm especially curious to know if this frame is harsh or compliant, as aluminum hardtails go--there seems to be so much variation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    probably a similar difference in handling between slack 26" am hardtails and 26" xc hardtails that often have steeper angles too

    no offense, but many people tend to think of 29ers more as a category of bikes than as a wheel size that can be applied to different categories of bikes. Short stays can make a bike feel more "lively", "playful" or "nimble" and you will be able to turn the bike a bit easier with your body, but the steering alone will still be slower and will force you to use your body more to be maneuverable
    another +1

    In the thread of the 29er I built (with 67.5 degree head angle with a 120 mm fork), there were a few people who mentioned that they required a 71 or 72 degree head angle to turn - yeah, I understand - they just don't have the turning skills to properly turn a bike, anyway, and they usually can't/don't get their butts out of the seat to turn. It's no wonder most 29ers are built for riders without bike handling skills!

    I'm loving my 67.5 degree HA/12" BB/ 16-5/8" CS 29er!
    May the air be filled with tires!

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    So are the Brothers done hamming it up with the painted Euro wenches yet? I want pics and details!!!! (Of the bike, not the wenches. Though you can feel free to include pics/details of the wenches as well )

    Pics of the three frame colors side by side would be nice. A shot of the chainstays with a known high volume tire mounted to a wide rim would make me happy as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaster1200

    .....the 29er I built......they just don't have the turning skills to properly turn a bike.....
    We get it, you built a bike and have sick bike handling skills. Save the self exposition for STR .

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike
    The complete shown is a large. They will be here on the 10th so it's possible to get one just before I-bike. .
    I'm not pestering you. I'm just making it easier for you to find the thread

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    $100 for shipping? Seriously?

    http://canfieldbrothers.com/shop/pro...page/checkout/

    edit: looks like they are still tinkering with the web store. now reads 650 and no shipping.
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    Ouch!

    400$ for international shipping...

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    Ouch!

    400$ for international shipping...
    Frame bought in UK is roughly £600 or $925 :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge
    Ouch!

    400$ for international shipping...
    Shurely sum mistake - nothing costs 400 bucks to send international

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    But it makes it equate with the UK price...

    If the frames were shipped straight to the UK distributor from the factory, instead of via Canfield in US surely that would be much cheaper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004
    Shurely sum mistake - nothing costs 400 bucks to send international
    Nigel, not so. The quote from Fedex to ship your FSR if, I remember correctly, was almost $400.

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    I just shipped a full bike from California to England, via US Postal priority mail, insured, for $90.

    That rate seems way high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jager7
    I just shipped a full bike from California to England, via US Postal priority mail, insured, for $90.

    That rate seems way high.
    Yes, I've also shipped to England for ± $90 with USPS. I also had one arrive damaged with USPS. Go and get an insured quote with a shipping company and see what it costs.

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    They are most definitely smoking some form of cRaCk Guess they're doing like all those infomercials and making their money on the shipping I know my Banshee sure didn't cost anywhere near $400 US once it was shipped by Banshee who would do a lot more business with FedEx etc than me. I think this will be a major hurdle for them if these prices are for real.
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    I got as far as the paypal log in and I saw no shipping costs at all? I'm wondering if the new price includes shipping ?

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    Yes, the price includes shipping, as it changes (from 650 to 1000$) when you change the shipping region...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    I got as far as the paypal log in and I saw no shipping costs at all? I'm wondering if the new price includes shipping ?
    I just all the way through the process and it states, "All prices include tax and postage and packaging where applicable."

    Not sure when the frame will show up though. This is my first 29er.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I just all the way through the process and it states, "All prices include tax and postage and packaging where applicable."

    Not sure when the frame will show up though. This is my first 29er.
    So it was 650$ total ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    So it was 650$ total ?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Yes.

    sweet! Thanks..

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    My Yelli Screamy is on it's way. I'm just bummed it wont arrive until Monday so I can't ride it over the weekend. Can't wait to give it a go!

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    I decided to wait till after Interbike on the chance I might get to test ride one there. I'm wishing I had one on the way though...

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    We will have one of each size to test at Bootleg for the Demo.
    We don't do booths- so find our Van or give us a call at 801-548-2556 to hook up.

    We will have 3 jedi's at the Elka booth for demo's too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whydomylegshurt?
    My Yelli Screamy is on it's way. I'm just bummed it wont arrive until Monday so I can't ride it over the weekend. Can't wait to give it a go!
    According to UPS tracking my Yelli was delivered today while I was at Whistler...guess I better go look for the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    According to UPS tracking my Yelli was delivered today while I was at Whistler...guess I better go look for the box.
    When you finish building the bike it would be great to see some pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whydomylegshurt?
    When you finish building the bike it would be great to see some pics!
    Here's a sneak peak.
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    Medium frame.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Here's a sneak peak.
    Medium frame.
    Sweet! The 3-font graphics are a bit much, yet still nicely "understated"...the bike looks great. How fun. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Here's a sneak peak.
    Medium frame.
    Looks awesome dude, congrats!
    How are you gonna build it, what fork?
    Very curious to hear your impressions.... I expect they will be good ;~)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    Looks awesome dude, congrats!
    How are you gonna build it, what fork?
    Very curious to hear your impressions.... I expect they will be good ;~)
    I bought a Marz 44 TST2 from Chainreaction for 250 . Yeah, probably not the best performer, but it was just too cheap, it is adjustable between 100-140mm and I'll be modifying it to an adjustable shim stack style like THIS MOD.

    I'm moving over a bunch of stuff from my On One Summer Season, but I'm still looking for an Ardent or Purgatory 2.4 front tire...no local shops have 'em .

    Come up and ride it when the hand feels better.
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    Geolover, start your own build thread, please...

    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    I bought a Marz 44 TST2 from Chainreaction for 250 . Yeah, probably not the best performer, but it was just too cheap and I'll be modifying it to an adjustable shim stack style like THIS MOD.

    I'm moving over a bunch of stuff from my On One Summer Season, but I'm still looking for an Ardent or Purgatory 2.4 front tire...no local shops have 'em .

    Come up and ride it when the hand feels better.
    With pics as you go. Don't make us accuse you of having nothing better to do.

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    Just looked at the Canfield Europe website. Their price for the Yelli Screamy frame is 799€. Shipping a frame within Europe shouldn't cost huge amounts of money.
    http://www.canfieldbrothers.de/

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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime
    Just looked at the Canfield Europe website. Their price for the Yelli Screamy frame is 799€. Shipping a frame within Europe shouldn't cost huge amounts of money.
    http://www.canfieldbrothers.de/
    800 Euros is relatively big money.

    The Paradox is 470 Euros UK delivered

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    The good thing is, I am not looking for a 29er right now If I were, I'd be pretty torn between those two, even with the big difference in price.

    ... add a bit to the Yelli Screamy price and I could get a custom frame.

    "it IS possible that you are faster or slower than anybody else who is having at least as much if not more or less fun"

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    ...and in steel

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    Looks like a very nice frame.
    Any picture anywhere of the gold anodized color?
    In the european site colors available are black, silver and titan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004
    ...and in steel
    Speaking of which - isn't the Nimble 9 steel, very similar geo and a great price? (that frame is still ongoing isn't it?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004
    Speaking of which - isn't the Nimble 9 steel, very similar geo and a great price? (that frame is still ongoing isn't it?)
    Yes it is!
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    Steel? Dunno: I'd put fat tires on the bike anyway.

    "it IS possible that you are faster or slower than anybody else who is having at least as much if not more or less fun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo
    Looks like a very nice frame.
    Any picture anywhere of the gold anodized color?
    In the european site colors available are black, silver and titan...
    The Titan is the same as Gold, and it looks killer. My Gold Ano frame just arrived Monday. I'm still waiting on the headset to arrive so I can ride it.

    Once it is built I will post some pics.

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    Here is a pic of the bike in Gold. Now that I have it together I've been able to take it out and my first impression is super positive. The bike feels really stable but still has a nice tight turning radius, the short chainstays rock. I can't wait to ride it more.

    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/blQrOeOGe1mz2vlqNm_3sR4MzWvcvCCIOmhkZz3LxTU?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.ggpht.com/_7GQ5gEAOGHo/TJ-4f_ToVKI/AAAAAAAAAA0/5rP8F5xqFT8/s800/IMG_2323.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/108089665050214358074/2010_11_21?authkey=Gv1sRgCJe7mIuI2MeRIw&feat=embed website">2010_11_21</a></td></tr></table>

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    And because someone asked about the clearance between the rear tire and front derailleur, here is another pic. I'm running Kenda Nevegal 2.2 tires, and the clearnce is tight.
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pSxT2TWKuyHBcLyCg7RTFB4MzWvcvCCIOmhkZz3LxTU?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.ggpht.com/_7GQ5gEAOGHo/TJ-4juI6cwI/AAAAAAAAAA8/QrhkTotbjL4/s400/IMG_2324.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/108089665050214358074/2010_11_21?authkey=Gv1sRgCJe7mIuI2MeRIw&feat=embed website">2010_11_21</a></td></tr></table>

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    Thanks. I was asking about that. Eeeek. I have hopes of fitting an Ardent 2.4 and still fitting a FD. If it doesn't fit, I guess I'll go 1x9 and HTFU.

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    So here's a newb question for y'all: If the Yelli has a 110mm head tube, will a used fork with a 7 3/4 inch steer tube be too short? Headset and stem could be bought to compensate, but I'd need recommends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whydomylegshurt?
    And because someone asked about the clearance between the rear tire and front derailleur, here is another pic. I'm running Kenda Nevegal 2.2 tires, and the clearnce is tight.
    What derailer is it?

    I recall from Paradox threads that there's significant differences in how different FDs fit.

    Looks like clearance without a FD would be very god.

    "it IS possible that you are faster or slower than anybody else who is having at least as much if not more or less fun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime
    I recall from Paradox threads that there's significant differences in how different FDs fit.
    This one takes a direct mount, so I'm guessing there is less variation among the different options. There also aren't too many options readily available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    So here's a newb question for y'all: If the Yelli has a 110mm head tube, will a used fork with a 7 3/4 inch steer tube be too short? Headset and stem could be bought to compensate, but I'd need recommends.
    Head tube: 110mm
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    Just throwing numbers at it, it looks like you'll be fine with typical components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut
    Thanks. I was asking about that. Eeeek. I have hopes of fitting an Ardent 2.4 and still fitting a FD. If it doesn't fit, I guess I'll go 1x9 and HTFU.
    Thats one of the setups I have. Here is a pic of a Ardent 2.4 fitting with a 3 ring. Note that the bottom arm of the dual pull on the direct mount front derailleur needs to be cut off to give you good clearance.
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    flymybike - as you're on should I expect any problems running a Y-S ss? Thinking of 32t ring up front and chain tensioner out back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymybike
    Thats one of the setups I have. Here is a pic of a Ardent 2.4 fitting with a 3 ring. Note that the bottom arm of the dual pull on the direct mount front derailleur needs to be cut off to give you good clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clink
    Y-S ss? Thinking of 32t ring up front and chain tensioner out back.
    I'd consider a BB mounted tensioner. Although ISCG tabs would make it easier to set up something like a Blackspire Stinger as a tensioner. Maybe a Yess.

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    this is a fun bike, just thought I'd include some pics I got @ Bootleg Canyon.
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    Is is camera angle? Or, how wide are those bars?

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    And a short stem - perfect combo for that bike I would say

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    Just got my tracking number! It's on the way, can't wait....


    What fork/travel?
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    I did just snag a Cheap marzochi 44 set @ 100mm just in case?
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    Ride impressions?

    To those of you that got to throw a leg over the Yelli Screamy, how did you like it? Was it a smooth or harsh ride with the 2.4 tires? I am hoping the combination of large rubber, 29" wheels and slack geo allow for some bump compliance?

    The only reason I ask is I am not sure if I want a hardtail again. Last spring I built a steel 26" Evil Soverign. Besides being too short for me, the harshness on the downs sent the Evil packing.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13
    To those of you that got to throw a leg over the Yelli Screamy, how did you like it? Was it a smooth or harsh ride with the 2.4 tires? I am hoping the combination of large rubber, 29" wheels and slack geo allow for some bump compliance?

    The only reason I ask is I am not sure if I want a hardtail again. Last spring I built a steel 26" Evil Soverign. Besides being too short for me, the harshness on the downs sent the Evil packing.

    Thanks!
    I know I've already posted about how much I liked the bike, but since no one has replied yet..... I thought it felt pretty plush, I had no comfort issues at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    I know I've already posted about how much I liked the bike, but since no one has replied yet..... I thought it felt pretty plush, I had no comfort issues at all.
    Did you put your bike together yet? Where's the pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m
    No, I haven't gathered all the parts yet.
    Keep us posted once you get started.

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    Here's a review of the Yelli. I'm not affiliated in any way. Just thought there'd be interest:

    http://thepathbikeshop.com/blog/2010...i-screamy.html

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    After a month on my bike, I can say I am really liking it. It's the only 29er I've ridden. Changes since I originally built it, trimmed the downpull arm off the fr der and that's it. I'm more of a gravity guy and have always ridden more slack bikes. I wouldn't go any steeper than this bike but that is definitely a personal opinion and riding style. I have 2.25 Ardents on right now. They are fine but I would be interested in trying something bigger too. I don't think a Weirwolf LT will clear in the back but something wide and fast is going to get the nod when these tires are done. Here's a rerun pic because no one has posted it in Johnny Cash.


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    I've been on my yelli for about 3 weeks now. This bike is really smooth. Taken it to Pisgah 4x and it handles the tech quite well. Specs- lg silver Yelli, Reba maxle lite set at 100mm(temp) I9s, SLX cranks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strangerthanmilhouse
    I've been on my yelli for about 3 weeks now. This bike is really smooth.
    Nice! I have been riding my Yelli at 140mm (started at 100mm) recently and I really dig it. It is a fun bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Nice! I have been riding my Yelli at 140mm (started at 100mm) recently and I really dig it. It is a fun bike.
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    I bet Is that the same Marz you originally snagged for it? Since I got my Pdox I've come to think of running it with a 120mm fork as XC mode Would love to give a 140mm a try. Any vids from either of you guys who've been riding these things for a bit?
    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Nice! I have been riding my Yelli at 140mm (started at 100mm) recently and I really dig it. It is a fun bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Slacker is better!
    No doubt! Even with the Yelli at 67 degrees, it is the steepest HA bike I've had in quite awhile.


    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Is that the same Marz you originally snagged for it?
    Yes, it is the 44 TST2. It was a decent fork at 100mm, but at 140 some unwanted traits are accentuated. With the tapered steerer it is a VERY stiff chassis, but the TST2 cart lacks some of the sublties of higher end forks (duh!). I need to get off my a$$ and get some (MOAR?) shims and convert the damper. The TST2 really could use some help, especially at 140. I still think it will end up being a great adjustable fork, especially for the price.

    No vids from me and I won't have any anytime soon either as I'm at work (in AK...I live in WA) for another several weeks .
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    Yeah, I'm hoping that when Banshee redesigns the P'dox they slack it out a degree or two. I think 67-68 should be the new HA for anything not XC, STA it would seem is super personal.
    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    No doubt! Even with the Yelli at 67 degrees, it is the steepest HA bike I've had in quite awhile.
    Yeah, I bet it sucks to be up in Alaska to work Snap some pics for those of us who don't get to see places like that. Which part of AK you at?
    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Yes, it is the 44 TST2. It was a decent fork at 100mm, but at 140 some unwanted traits are accentuated. With the tapered steerer it is a VERY stiff chassis, but the TST2 cart lacks some of the sublties of higher end forks (duh!). I need to get off my a$$ and get some (MOAR?) shims and convert the damper. The TST2 really could use some help, especially at 140. I still think it will end up being a great adjustable fork, especially for the price.

    No vids from me and I won't have any anytime soon either as I'm at work (in AK...I live in WA) for another several weeks .
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Yeah, I bet it sucks to be up in Alaska to work Snap some pics for those of us who don't get to see places like that. Which part of AK you at?
    While this is not a recent photo (and a different location than I am in currently), it does illustrate how all is not peaches and cream working in Alaska. YMMV.

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    PS - Yes, that road is constructed with frozen water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    While this is not a recent photo (and a different location than I am in currently), it does illustrate how all is not peaches and cream working in Alaska. YMMV.

    PS - Yes, that road is constructed with frozen water.
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    Hallo!
    So I'm going to order a Yelli screamy frame.
    As I'm in assembling by myself, and I'll go with a 1'1/8'' straight fork, which Headset should I use?
    Is the head tube 1-1/8" ZeroStack top (44mm inside diameter) and 1.5" ZeroStack bottom (55.9mm inside diameter)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by savo
    Hallo!
    So I'm going to order a Yelli screamy frame.
    As I'm in assembling by myself, and I'll go with a 1'1/8'' straight fork, which Headset should I use?
    Is the head tube 1-1/8" ZeroStack top (44mm inside diameter) and 1.5" ZeroStack bottom (55.9mm inside diameter)?
    It is listed as 50mm which I assume to be traditional (49.6). Cane Creek sells the uppers/lowers separate and has a reducer lower bearing.
    EDIT: Yes, the upper is a Zerostack.

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    so what's the actual BB height w/ a 140 mm fork and 2.4 inch ardents or similar tires? from the geo chart, it should be around 12.5 inches or a bit more, which is still plenty low enough.

    i'm still on the fence about whether a 140 mm 29er fork w/ only 32 mm stanchions is worth getting.

    no warranty issues with running a 140 on the yelli?
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    no warranty issues with running a 140 on the yelli?[/QUOTE]

    No worries- Go for it. The Yelli Screamy's are tough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    so what's the actual BB height w/ a 140 mm fork and 2.4 inch ardents or similar tires? from the geo chart, it should be around 12.5 inches or a bit more, which is still plenty low enough.

    i'm still on the fence about whether a 140 mm 29er fork w/ only 32 mm stanchions is worth getting.
    I think my YS with Marz 140 and Neve 2.2 (fairly good sized 2.2) is about 12.6...not sure exactly, but definitely less than 12.75. Sorry for the somewhat nebulous answer, but my bike is 1500 miles away...preventing any precise measuring.

    Re: stiffness. I find the Marz to be a pretty stiff chassis...of course it is a tapered steerer which probably helps too. Not sure of any of the other 29er offerings...although, my Marz 140 29er is stiffer than my Minute 100 26er (1 1/8 steerer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    so what's the actual BB height w/ a 140 mm fork and 2.4 inch ardents or similar tires? from the geo chart, it should be around 12.5 inches or a bit more, which is still plenty low enough.
    My measured BB on a Sinister Simon Bar (same 70mm BB drop) with 2.25 Bontrager tires and Zoke 44 140mm fork is 13" Don't know how much that helps, but I think it is a valid comparison because the geometry with the exception of chain stay length is pretty similar.
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    Are you sure the Simon Bar is 70mm? That's 2.75". They list the height as 12.7", which, with a tire measuring 29.5" would be right around 2", or 50mm of drop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach
    Are you sure the Simon Bar is 70mm? That's 2.75". They list the height as 12.7", which, with a tire measuring 29.5" would be right around 2", or 50mm of drop...
    70mm is an actual measurement on my bike with a 465mm fork. It would be a little less with a 480 fork to be comparable to the YS. (I just went to the garage and checked it again )

    I have never found a reliable geometry chart from Sinister despite asking multiple times. I think the bike has changed in various production runs, but no one seems to know exactly how much. Well, I am sure the Sinister guys know but they have not exactly been generous with the information. Maybe that 50mm of drop is with a 120mm fork? I love that Canfield puts such a great specific geometry in this thread and I want to buy one simply because of that.

    But....I need a single speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    70mm is an actual measurement on my bike with a 465mm fork. It would be a little less with a 480 fork to be comparable to the YS. (I just went to the garage and checked it again )

    I have never found a reliable geometry chart from Sinister despite asking multiple times. I think the bike has changed in various production runs, but no one seems to know exactly how much. Well, I am sure the Sinister guys know but they have not exactly been generous with the information. Maybe that 50mm of drop is with a 120mm fork? I love that Canfield puts such a great specific geometry in this thread and I want to buy one simply because of that.

    But....I need a single speed.
    email Frank the Welder or PM him here (verticult) - I'm sure he knows what is what between the various batches he produced for Sinister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    70mm is an actual measurement on my bike with a 465mm fork. It would be a little less with a 480 fork to be comparable to the YS. (I just went to the garage and checked it again )

    I have never found a reliable geometry chart from Sinister despite asking multiple times. I think the bike has changed in various production runs, but no one seems to know exactly how much. Well, I am sure the Sinister guys know but they have not exactly been generous with the information. Maybe that 50mm of drop is with a 120mm fork? I love that Canfield puts such a great specific geometry in this thread and I want to buy one simply because of that.

    But....I need a single speed.
    thanks. BB heights are notorious for ending up different than mfg'er claims. The Canfield geo chart truly is a model for what other companies should be providing. I've heard conflicting info on the Sinister geo variations...why they still have the steep HA on their website is beyond me (laziness?) but I haven't checked there in a while.

    btw if you need a single speed but like the Canfield geo, why not install a forward components mini EBB.? http://www.forwardcycle.com/ They've been out long enough that I figured I'd get one next year if i decided to go from 1X6 to single speed on a frame like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    btw if you need a single speed but like the Canfield geo, why not install a forward components mini EBB.? http://www.forwardcycle.com/ They've been out long enough that I figured I'd get one next year if i decided to go from 1X6 to single speed on a frame like this.
    I took things into my own hands.

    I looked at the current Sinister web page and the geo listed there is nothing like my bike. Mine is much slacker and the TT is shorter by an inch. It is very close the the Yelli Screamy and it rides awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    70mm is an actual measurement on my bike with a 465mm fork. It would be a little less with a 480 fork to be comparable to the YS. (I just went to the garage and checked it again )

    I have never found a reliable geometry chart from Sinister despite asking multiple times. I think the bike has changed in various production runs, but no one seems to know exactly how much. Well, I am sure the Sinister guys know but they have not exactly been generous with the information. Maybe that 50mm of drop is with a 120mm fork? I love that Canfield puts such a great specific geometry in this thread and I want to buy one simply because of that.

    But....I need a single speed.

    Here you go:

    http://www.sinisterbikes.com/sbforum...ead.php?t=1115
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...ight=simon+bar

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    Who knows the seatpost clamp diameter? it's the only thing not listed in the specs

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    anyone w/ a Large frame and a 120 mm fork, can you confirm that the wheelbase is around 44 inches? I'm estimating based on the geo .pdf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savo
    Who knows the seatpost clamp diameter? it's the only thing not listed in the specs
    34.9mm for the clamp and 30.9 post-
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    For those of you wanting single speed, 32X21 is perfect with this chainstay length and NO TENSIONER:

    http://thepathbikeshop.com/blog/2010...i-screamy.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by pureslop
    For those of you wanting single speed, 32X21 is perfect with this chainstay length and NO TENSIONER:

    http://thepathbikeshop.com/blog/2010...i-screamy.html
    Very nice!! That's my gear.
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    Got my Yelli Screamy built up yesterday. I'm gonna take it out for a spin today and try to snap a few pics of it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Very nice!! That's my gear.
    Very nice indeed! Did you check the weight on that bike too? Just a tad over 23 pounds...hot damn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by naya the dingo
    Got my Yelli Screamy built up yesterday. I'm gonna take it out for a spin today and try to snap a few pics of it too.

    I'm really happy with my Yelli Screamy. I'll try to get a pic or two up, but that may not happen until Monday.

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    Okay, here it is. Most of the parts came off of my Rocky Mountain Vertex SE. I'm planning on swapping the 100mm fork to a 120mm tapered Fox. If I feel like I want it slacker, I'll go for an external lower headset. I also have a Chris King/Salsa Gordo wheelset being built, waiting on CK to anodize another batch of gold. Sorry for the crappy pics, I took them with my phone.










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    Very nice indeed

    Love the non drive side profile, ST/BB reinforcer and the short rear. Looks fit for purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004
    Very nice indeed

    Love the non drive side profile, ST/BB reinforcer and the short rear. Looks fit for purpose

    Thanks! I'm really pleased with this bike. The frame is much stiffer laterally than my Rocky Mountain Vertex, but it is more compliant.

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    Looks nice, but a bit weird with those racey/XC tyres I think more along the lines of Rampages, Bonti 29-4s, Ardents 2.4" etc on something like the Yelli, but then again my idea of XC geo has changed since I got my Paradox, could easily use it for XC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Looks nice, but a bit weird with those racey/XC tyres I think more along the lines of Rampages, Bonti 29-4s, Ardents 2.4" etc on something like the Yelli, but then again my idea of XC geo has changed since I got my Paradox, could easily use it for XC.

    Yeah, I'm putting a pair of 2.4" Ardents on the new wheels when they are ready. Those 2.2" Race Kings already roll all over the place on the narrow 355's, I'm a bit of a clyde at 6'3" 280lbs.

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    Looks good :-) How does it climb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by naya the dingo
    Okay, here it is. Most of the parts came off of my Rocky Mountain Vertex SE. I'm planning on swapping the 100mm fork to a 120mm tapered Fox. If I feel like I want it slacker, I'll go for an external lower headset. I also have a Chris King/Salsa Gordo wheelset being built, waiting on CK to anodize another batch of gold. Sorry for the crappy pics, I took them with my phone.









    Looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clink
    Looks good :-) How does it climb?

    So far, so good! I haven't ridden any real super steep technical climbs yet, but I feel like it'll be fine. May require a little seat rape on the real steep stuff, but I couldn't possibly have to move as far forward on the saddle as my Intense 6.6 though.

    Edit: I should add that I got my local shop to order the frame from Canfield for me. It cost the same, and I got to support the shop too! Anyone in the Richmond, VA area, go see Jesse at 3Sports.

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    Careful or you might give yourself an anurism and this time not be so lucky
    BTW, has all that trouble you had caused you vision to be bad, or can you simply not read right? BTW the OP seemed to agree with me on this point, so WTF is your problem, can a person not have their own opinion and share it and not gush over someone's bike and still be a good person. Now go take some blood thinners or something.

    LyNx=I think more along the lines of Rampages, Bonti 29-4s, Ardents 2.4" etc on something like the Yelli,

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    No, do what LyNx says! Gotta GOTTA GOTTA be Rampages, use Ardents and you will die, or at least fudge up the space / time continuum. Everyone has to ride like him...... (gotta have lots of head banging too.....)

    Sweet bike ,from what I can see of the pics. (I have to scroll right left up down to try to get them on my laptop they are so big. I cannot get a full view of the bike on screen.
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    I still haven't gotten my new wheelset yet, but I threw a pair of 2.4 Ardents on the YS and headed to Asheville, NC to visit some friends on Friday. We rode Pisgah (Mills River area I think) on Saturday, and Dupont on Sunday. I am absolutely in love with this bike, super fun and confidence inspiring. I got a chance to test it's climbing abilities more thoroughly this weekend, even with the short stem it climbs great. I wish we had taken a camera with us, maybe next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naya the dingo
    I still haven't gotten my new wheelset yet, but I threw a pair of 2.4 Ardents on the YS and headed to Asheville, NC to visit some friends on Friday. We rode Pisgah (Mills River area I think) on Saturday, and Dupont on Sunday. I am absolutely in love with this bike, super fun and confidence inspiring. I got a chance to test it's climbing abilities more thoroughly this weekend, even with the short stem it climbs great. I wish we had taken a camera with us, maybe next time.

    Does the 2.4 Ardent clear good in the rear w no interference with the FD or chain in the granny gears ? TIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGMAN
    Does the 2.4 Ardent clear good in the rear w no interference with the FD or chain in the granny gears ? TIG.
    Yeah, the 2.4 clears no problem. I trimmed the dérailleur arm off and you can run any gear combo with no rubbing. I'll see if I can get some pictures of it tomorrow.

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    I had a chance to spend the day on a Yelli Screamy Saturday with Chris Canfiled, this is one fun bike to ride.

    I fired off an email last week inquiring about the frame and decided to ask if there was anything in my area to ride. Just by luck, Chris was in the area and offered to hook up for a ride. To be honest, I expected him to skip out as we were meeting at the crack of dawn and the weather forecast really sucked, but what do you know, he showed up ready to ride and the weather turned out pretty good after all.

    As for the bike, by far the best 29er hardtail I've ridden so far, it was like they designed this frame to be ridden on my local trails, Lots of Tight and twisty, up and downs. The short chainstays were very evident, it handled the tight twisty trails superbly and made my SS rigid Niner Sir9 feel like a tank. The rear end just followed you around any corner you pointed the front wheel down. The medium Yelli Screamy I rode easily out weighed my Niner by several pounds and was built up with a Fox 32 F29 set at 80mm, riser bars, 70mm stem, 3x9 gearing and Kenda Small Block 8s.
    In the air the bike felt very stable and everything I went off of I landed with confidence, not that I was going big. It was also very easy to pump the rolls/small bumps and drive it into the burms.

    On the climbs, which we did a lot of, the front end did not wander. I was kind of concerned as I could easily manual the Yelli over bumps on the trails or puddles on the road. It was very easy to loft the front end over the many log overs that seem to be prevalent at our local trails. The 80mm fork that was on this bike could also contribute to the front end staying planted on the climbs. The one thing I found tuff about this bike was standing and climbing, I'm not sure why, but climbing seated seemed to work best.

    The build quality is nice. I didn't go over the bike with a magnifying glass, but everything looked well thought out.

    I was amazed by how well the Yelli Screamy rode and out performed my Niner by a long shot, and I'm by no means a techy bike geek. The Yelli Screamy is aluminum and I could definitely feel the difference between this and my steel Niner, but I would gladly take the handling characteristics of the Canflied over the Niners steel compliance any day.

    Hopefully I will have my frame in the next month or so and the bike completely built up by the spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    I had a chance to spend the day on a Yelli Screamy Saturday with Chris Canfiled, this is one fun bike to ride.....Hopefully I will have my frame in the next month or so and the bike completely built up by the spring.
    Nice. It really is THAT fun. Seriously.
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    He he, yes I went from a SIR9 to a ('similar') Banshee Paradox

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    I think Cranfield have dialled 29er spot on with this frame, great looking bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    The one thing I found tuff about this bike was standing and climbing, I'm not sure why, but climbing seated seemed to work best.
    OHM, can you elaborate on this? I was just thinking how the long TT and short chainstays might contribute to decent performance when standing & climbing. I remember 13 years ago learning to purposefully pull up on my bars while pushing on the cranks to get the most climbing traction out of the semi-slick mtb tires on my old Performance HT. Those tires were a bad idea in so many ways, but I digress. The point is, I felt like I was levering the rear end into dirt around the bottom bracket. In my mind it seemed like there would be a sweet spot for chainstay length while doing this: too long and you loose mechanical advantage, too short and it is wheelies when you need them the least. In any case, my Karate Monkey SS, with its 17" chainstays (give or take a half inch - my rear wheel is in mid position), seems to strike a decent balance. Although that distinct levering feeling is hard to detect now - the Performance definitely had longer stays. I wonder if the Canfield crosses over into being too short for standing & climbing? I realize my reminiscing about an old bike is not very interesting, but some more adjectives and observations about climbing on the Yelli certainly would be. Hook us up, yo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    OHM, can you elaborate on this? I was just thinking how the long TT and short chainstays might contribute to decent performance when standing & climbing. I remember 13 years ago learning to purposefully pull up on my bars while pushing on the cranks to get the most climbing traction out of the semi-slick mtb tires on my old Performance HT. Those tires were a bad idea in so many ways, but I digress. The point is, I felt like I was levering the rear end into dirt around the bottom bracket. In my mind it seemed like there would be a sweet spot for chainstay length while doing this: too long and you loose mechanical advantage, too short and it is wheelies when you need them the least. In any case, my Karate Monkey SS, with its 17" chainstays (give or take a half inch - my rear wheel is in mid position), seems to strike a decent balance. Although that distinct levering feeling is hard to detect now - the Performance definitely had longer stays. I wonder if the Canfield crosses over into being too short for standing & climbing? I realize my reminiscing about an old bike is not very interesting, but some more adjectives and observations about climbing on the Yelli certainly would be. Hook us up, yo!

    I had on a set of Small block 8's on his Demo bike and it was really wet. I bet he had no traction.
    I love the shorter stays- And, I prefer the the Nimble 9 set at about 16.3 SS the best.

    Just wait til you ride one-

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