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    What 29er tires are best (and worst) for tubeless?

    I know there is a very old thread about people's experience with different tire/rim combos, but I was wondering if there was any kind of consensus on what 29er tires are very good, or very bad, for running tubeless, regardless of how easy there are to mount up with particular rims using particular methods. Are there entire brands that are good or bad?

    I live in an area with lots of rocks, so a stable-feeling, tough sidewall is important. Some tires just don't hold up well tubeless, or feel very squirmy unless you run very high pressures.

    In particular, I'm interested in hearing about good/awful tires available at Colorado Cyclist since I'm about to order a bike from them. But info about all tires would be good to know.

    Available Colorodo Cyclist tires include...
    Kenda Small Block Eight
    Schwable Racing Ralph & Knobby Nic
    Geax Saguaro
    Maxis Ardent & Pro, Igniter, CrossMark, Aspen Exception
    Panaracer Rampage

    Maybe if there is a lot of consensus on very good and very bad tires, I'll go back periodically and edit this post to have best of and worst of columns

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    +All versions of the Panaracer Rampage works great as tubeless
    +Specialized 2bliss are very effective
    +2011 Schwables will be tubeless ready. Uncertain how well the 2010's work. Snakeskin sidewall versions probably OK
    +GEAX TNT are fantastic. Non TNT are probably acceptable
    +Maxxis Ignitor is well received
    +Maxxis LUST tires are true UST and work fine



    -Kenda Small Block 8 tends to be squirmy and rips easily
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    Ignitors, Crossmarks (non-ust) are a piece of cake on Stans rims with some sealant.
    I have not been able to mount my WTB Stouts in a tubeless fashion on the same rims despite many hours - but I haven't given up yet.

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    Kenda SB8 + rocks = too high a probability of a short ride and a long walk in my experience.

    I thought they felt fine, but the sidewalls don't hold up to rocky riding.
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    Geax tires have been great, IME. The TNT ("Tube No Tube" - tubeless ready) have a UST-spec bead, but even the tubetype tires have tough sidewalls, seal up readily, and don't seep or lose pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugor
    Ignitors, Crossmarks (non-ust) are a piece of cake on Stans rims with some sealant.
    I have not been able to mount my WTB Stouts in a tubeless fashion on the same rims despite many hours - but I haven't given up yet.

    Thanks for the input. Rember though- there's just WAY too much variability about which tires are easiest to mount to which rims by which method. This thread is mostly about which how tires perform when mounted tubelessly. I suppose if many people mention a tire that can't mount on many different rims that's noteworthy though.

    Good info on the small blocks. They're one of the lightest tires, too. Perhaps we can find some kind of correlation between weight and tubeless performance.

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    Well going by your list, the choice for me given your description of your trail/terrain would be the Rampages, maybe the Saguro in TNT. Never used the Saguros so can't comment, currently running a Rampage upfront, tubeless on Stans Flow with SLIME sealant and not an issue, run it down to 19 PSI even. My trails have nasty coralstone and some roots and it has stood up just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plim
    Kenda SB8 + rocks = too high a probability of a short ride and a long walk in my experience.

    I thought they felt fine, but the sidewalls don't hold up to rocky riding.
    New England rocks ate my rear SB8s in under 200 miles and pinch flatted a lot, even at 40 psi, which sucked since it bounced then. Too flimsy. Also, they like to get thorn flats too in SoCal (I just moved here).

    Replaced mine with Ikon EXO. I got the front tubeless converted, but the rear is being a ***** (won't inflate; the SB8 wouldn't either on the same rim but worked up front) and I wanted to ride so I threw a tube in it, since I have quite a few laying around still. You might want to consider those on your list. Grippy and tough for their weight. Just don't be disappointed when comparing their grip to the grip of Ardent, Aka, or whatever, which have 100-200g more worth of rubber.

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    Geax TNT are mount and forget

    i had an issue mounting these tire but after some heavy research found out that see mount best on WTB laserdisc tight but unmountable on the trail. I know many will say wtb laserdiscs are not meant for tubeless action but i've zero issues after 4 years of stans and ghetto tube set ups. All in all the geax saguaro tnt is a sweet tire, fast and long lasting.....

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    +1 on Ignitor/Crossmark setup. You can actually get the new EXO versions that have a slightly more beefy sidewall. Otherwise you can replace the Crossmark with the new IKON which is and EXC EXO 3D compound, they just came out at the end of October..so new for fall 2010. The only problem with Ignitors is that I have not found the EXOs in any bigger than 2.1. I prefer 2.2 or bigger for tubeless because the more air volume you have, the wider tire pressure spectrum you have to work with, and ofcourse its more rubber touching the ground.

    I have ran Ignitor/Crossmark setup for years, but I really enjoy the Ignitor/Stan's Raven 2.2 setup and also Ikon/Ikon setup..which is what I am riding right now. Its slightly faster, bit smoother..and has pretty much all the bite upfront that I need in corners because of the bigger contact patch.
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    I have had good luck with the SB8. It wept a lot after initial installation but now it holds air awesome. The Nevegal didn't weep at all and sealed up with no issues at all. I have them mounted to a Shimano UST wheelset. I can't speak for durability of the SB8 in rocky conditions because it's not a rocky condition tire. It's meant to be light and fast, not super durable. I haven't had any flats with either the Nev or SB8 in about 1500 miles of riding them since I installed them.
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    All the popular schwalbe tyres come tubless ready next year.

    I recieved a couple of the new Nobby Nic in 2,35 pacestar (softer side knobs than its predisessor) yesterday and they have a different edge. We managed to inflate them without sealent just with the use of a hand pump.

    A whole new experience for me....shame there is too much snow to test them at the mo..
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    I've had great luck mounting and running the ignitors and crossmarks in Colorado. Lately I've been using the SB8's. It took them about a week before they consistently held air, but they've held up since then. The sidewalls are thin but I guess I've just had good luck.

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    I am running an Aspen on the front of my XC race bike and Ardents on my rigid SS. I didn't have issues with either.
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    I'm heavy and the only tire on that list that wouldn't give me that squirmy feeling light tires have when running tubeless is the TNT Saguaro. Heavy, but fast and the toughest tire I have used so far.

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    I've had good luck with the following tires tubeless on NoTubes Arch rims:
    Maxxis Ignitor (front and rear)
    Panaracer Rampage (front and rear)
    Geax Saguaro (non TNT) (rear)
    WTB Prowler SL (rear)
    Bontrager XDX (rear)

    I've also used the 26" version of the WTB Wolverine with good luck, although it took forever to get it completely sealed.

    The WTB Weirwolf LT was good as a front tire, although it developed a sidewall cut after a couple months of use when the rest of tire looked nearly brand new.

    Tires I've had bad luck with due to weak sidewalls: Maxxis Crossmark, Hutchinson Python

    My standard tire is the Ignitor - for a lightweight tire it has been surprisingly durable and for my riding style it has a nice blend of good traction and relatively low rolling resistance.

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    I recently bought a set of Stan's Crest wheels and mounted Specialized The Captains front and rear with their 2Bliss design. They went on super easy with an air compressor. I thought they were going to seal up great the way the bead really "popped" on when seating, but weep air.

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    Concur with these statements. Although I managed to set all 3 up tubeless, the Crossmark did not last long in our coralstone infested trails - maybe the new EXO version will stand up better - Ignitor worked fine until I changed it out and still running the Rampage - although it still wheeps some sealant, but doesn't loose pressure.
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    I've had good luck with the following tires tubeless on NoTubes Arch rims:
    Maxxis Ignitor (front and rear)
    Panaracer Rampage (front and rear)............................................. ........


    Tires I've had bad luck with due to weak sidewalls: Maxxis Crossmark,

    My standard tire is the Ignitor - for a lightweight tire it has been surprisingly durable and for my riding style it has a nice blend of good traction and relatively low rolling resistance.
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    Using Regular Saguaro's on Flow's right now, first attempt ar tubeless and very good success. Some people dont like them as a front tire but has been fine for me.
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    Best: Panaracer Rampage
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    I think the selection of 2Bliss tires from Specialized works very well. I've been running the Captain Controls (beefier sidewall) all year with out any issues. Did a few races this year that were very rocky, and they held up perfectly fine.

    They are also a breeze to setup tubeless. Even easier than the Geax TNT's that I was running previously. And they were simple as well.

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    I have an Ardent/Ignitor setup on my FS. Both non-UST mounted to Arches with no issues. Initial setup took some time to get the bead to seal but since then never a problem. I use Crossmarks (non-UST) on HT's and they sealed easily and have been great

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    Quote Originally Posted by @dam
    I know there is a very old thread about people's experience with different tire/rim combos, but I was wondering if there was any kind of consensus on what 29er tires are very good, or very bad, for running tubeless, regardless of how easy there are to mount up with particular rims using particular methods. Are there entire brands that are good or bad?

    I live in an area with lots of rocks, so a stable-feeling, tough sidewall is important. Some tires just don't hold up well tubeless, or feel very squirmy unless you run very high pressures.

    In particular, I'm interested in hearing about good/awful tires available at Colorado Cyclist since I'm about to order a bike from them. But info about all tires would be good to know.

    Available Colorodo Cyclist tires include...
    Kenda Small Block Eight
    Schwable Racing Ralph & Knobby Nic
    Geax Saguaro
    Maxis Ardent & Pro, Igniter, CrossMark, Aspen Exception
    Panaracer Rampage

    Maybe if there is a lot of consensus on very good and very bad tires, I'll go back periodically and edit this post to have best of and worst of columns
    You didn't mention what rim you would have on your bike from CC.

    The Maxxis Ardent 2.25 LUST - a true UST tire - is probably about as good as you could get for what you describe. I've been running it on a Flow rim since June with no sealant. It's tough and hasn't flinched at any rocks (I've had them in the sharp rocks of the Black Hills on 3 separate trips). Ditto for the Crossmark LUST I've been running on the rear on a Flow. Yup, these tires weigh more than the non-tubeless brethen, but you did mention you were looking for sidewall protection and a tire that could run tubeless and Velcro psi's without squirm. I run mine in the teens on the RIP. And as I said - Flow rims, yellow tape, NoTubes valves and no sealant.

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    That being said, I run everything tubeless these days on Crest, Flow and Blunt rims as well as older American Classic rims (the non-tubeless variety). Fire XC Pros (another beefy sidewall tire), Ardent 2.4, Raven 2.2, Ralph 2.25/2.4, Aspens, IKONs, Race King 2.2's, Karma 1.9's, Crows, Nanoraptors and probably a few more.

    Get a set of good tubeless ready rims with your new bike and have at it. The Maxxis LUST tires are beefy, durable and fun.

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    +1 for Racing Ralphs 2.25/2.4 using rim tape with Stans goo.

    A friend of mine runs Maxxis Ignitors with Stans successfully as well.

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    My contribution: I run my Ignitor 2.1 x 29 on WTB Trail Laser Disc rims. Even though i had a hard time sealing them with Stan's with a compressor, i've had no issues whatsoever with them. I ride at around 32-35 psi depending on terrain on my HT SS with a soon-to-dissapear suspension fork. My terrain is usually loose over hardpack or sharp rocks with looose baby heads. Also, some time on rooty sandy terrain. These Ignitors perform flawlessly for me.

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    Geax saguaro TNT tires are, as put by a previous poster, mount and forget. BY far the easiest tires I have ever used tubeless. Theyre mounted on C29ssmax wheels. Inflated easily with a floor pump, no massaging and wild pumping necessary, and they held air immediately. They also roll well and handle low pressures ok. A wider rim will help with stability. However, I just got a deep cut on the tread after hitting a very rocky chute with more speed than I intended. The stan's sealed it up ok after several seconds though. I havent experienced any other issues.

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    Saguaro TNTs aired up without sealant on my UST rims. I run a little bit anyways, but didn't need to. Also got a regular version to seat fine but it needed sealant.

    I'm a broken record on this but I really like these tires. Fast rolling, durable, and mroe grip than you'd think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M_S
    Saguaro TNTs aired up without sealant on my UST rims. I run a little bit anyways, but didn't need to. Also got a regular version to seat fine but it needed sealant.

    I'm a broken record on this but I really like these tires. Fast rolling, durable, and mroe grip than you'd think.
    I am too... had great experience on them. I just mounted up some AKAs to try something different... ordered TNT and was shipped tubetype... I didn't want to deal with returning them and I've heard that even the tt Geax tires do well tubeless. They seem burly (700g a piece), so I set them up split-tube-less on my Salsa Delgado Race Disc 29er rims. I like the look of the tread and they set up flawlessly and have been holding pressure for days. I've got to get my new Niner fork steerer cut to get the bike (rigid ss) out on the trail, but should be in the next couple of days.
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    +1 for the TNT Seguaros. They are great in the dry sharp rocks.

    But they aren't so good in the wet. My current favorite for that is the Nobby Nic.

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    Had good luck with 29" wtb prowlers with yellow tape on Stans crest and ztr 355's and ye ole nanos xc-ish.

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    Buy a pair of Bontrager FR3 tires, pour in the goop and go ride your bike. My local trails are rocky. One of my regular trails is so rocky that has been described on MTBR as "unrideable" (my buddies and I ride it dab-free regularly). They have stable sidewalls, brilliant grip, they work great at low pressure (18-24 psi) and are designed for tubeless use. I run them on Stan's Flow rims.
    Other tires I've run tubeless: Conti Mt King 2.4, Panaracer Rampage. Both worked fine tubeless but their sidewalls were too flimsy for my liking on the rocks. It wasn't that they got cut too easily or anything, the sidewalls would just fold over too easily at low pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather
    I am too... had great experience on them. I just mounted up some AKAs to try something different... ordered TNT and was shipped tubetype... I didn't want to deal with returning them and I've heard that even the tt Geax tires do well tubeless. They seem burly (700g a piece), so I set them up split-tube-less on my Salsa Delgado Race Disc 29er rims. I like the look of the tread and they set up flawlessly and have been holding pressure for days. I've got to get my new Niner fork steerer cut to get the bike (rigid ss) out on the trail, but should be in the next couple of days.
    Looking forward to hearing people's impressions on these. They look like a good option up front with a Saguaro out back. It'll be 4 or 5 months until any trails come close to drying out around here so I'll not be the guinea pig on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by gord962
    I am running an Aspen on the front of my XC race bike and Ardents on my rigid SS. I didn't have issues with either.
    I have a regular ardent and an exo ardent and they work great

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    The ones I like for tubeless are:
    Capt.Control 2.2 (rear on RIP9)
    Bontrager 29-3 ( front on RIP9)
    Panaracer Rampage 2.35 (front on ss) Bontrager XR 2.2(front specific ss)
    Geax Sagaro (rear on ss)

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    I know these are not on the OPs list of tires, but this seems like the right thread to ask: I'm considering the Ignitors or the Kenda Nevegals. I'm fine either way but the mechanic at my LBS seemed to really like the compounds in the Nevegals; can anyone tell me about their experience running the Nevegals tubeless?

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    Of the tires you have listed the Geax will be the strongest from what I understand, I hear get the non TNT version to save weight.

    SB8 is a pretty light tire so I would be cautious however I run a RK 2.2 in the summer out back tubeless and it's hit plenty of rocks. The ignitor seals up fine but I also hear they are kind of a weak tire for tears in general.

    So I would get the Geax or if you can Specialized tires seal up really well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roll0ver
    I know these are not on the OPs list of tires, but this seems like the right thread to ask: I'm considering the Ignitors or the Kenda Nevegals. I'm fine either way but the mechanic at my LBS seemed to really like the compounds in the Nevegals; can anyone tell me about their experience running the Nevegals tubeless?
    I've been running the Saguaro TNT in the rear and the Nevegal in front for about a year here in the Phoenix area. I wore the Saguaro VERY thin (center bead continuous and not so tall) and finally replaced it recently. The the shoulder knobs on the Nevegal recently began tearing from the casing. Other than these wear comments, both tires mount up and run nicely on DT rims with about 29psi (I'm 200 unloaded). Not sure if I'll get another Nevegal...maybe a Weirwolf?

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    I just put an AKA up front (regular/non tubeless) with stans on a crest rim. Aired right up with no issues. This wasn't an ordinary tire either. I was railing loose corners at 20+ and my saguaro rear tire just couldn't keep up. The AKA is amazing and I am looking forward to finding that perfect rear mate. Probably will pair it with a Nano, as the Nano rocks on AZ terrain. Big fan of maxxis, but maxxis=sidewall tears for me. Bike, gear, and rider weigh in at about 155 lbs total. The Schwalbes are also great but cost way too much
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    On Stans Arch and also CB Cobalts....

    Geax Saguaro 2.2 front and rear have been great on my Hei-Hei

    WTB Prowler 2.1 font and rear have been excellent on my Big Mama

    The WTB's roll faster the Geax are a bit more beefy. I might do a Prowler rear on the Hei Hei next....

    FWIW.. SB8's suck.. they roll fast and then the sidewall tears out on a rock.
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    Though I dont have a 29er...yet. I do plan too hopefully soon. On my 26ers I only trust Specialized GRID UST tires. They have 29ers also. There's the Captain Control for XC/trail, the Eskar for trail as well as many other tread patterns. The GRIDs have super thick sidewalls, heavy but will hold up to tough rocks. If its rocky terrain you're into, go with the GRID offerings from Spec. If you want a medium for weight and durability, go with the standard 2bliss Spec. USTs.

    I dont buy Kendas anymore. I blew 3 of them, right at the bead, on these same exact rock-ladden trails that the Spec. GRIDS have been holding up well on with no probs. Looks like Kendas continue their reputation for junk tires!

    The good thing about Spec tires also is they carry a warranty. If you tear the sidewall or have a problem, the LBS can take them back and you get new ones. Worth the $50+/tire IHMO.
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    Using Arches w/ yellow tape here.
    So far excellent results with the following:
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    Nevegal 2.4 (great)
    Aspen Exception
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    My vote has been for the Specialized Captains 2Bliss..They are very pourous, so don't get freaked out if it looks like they are leaking!

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    I run Maxxis Crossmark 29x2.1 on all my bikes tubeless and love em! No problems!

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    Here's my new set up:
    Geax Saguaro (non-TNT) on the FRONT. Ran it as a REAR tire for a year and it did great out back, but have recently found that it's a great front tire as well. Used to run a Rampage but have found the Saguaro rolls a bit faster, feels "lighter" and has very good grip. You really don't need anything bigger that a 2.10 or 2.2 for XC riding on 29er wheels. On the rear I am running a WTB Motoraptor 29 x 2.1 wire bead. WTB doesn't make this tire anymore but if you look around you can still get them. Both tires have strong sidewalls and are great for tubeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmucker
    Aspen: Good.

    I know that at least.
    Loved the feel and low weight of this tire, but in rocky SoCal the thin, supple sidewalls only lasted 2 weeks before being slashed to pieces and rendered untubeless-able
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    A little bit of pee just trickled out of my pipi when I saw that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myitch
    Though I dont have a 29er...yet. I do plan too hopefully soon. On my 26ers I only trust Specialized GRID UST tires. They have 29ers also. There's the Captain Control for XC/trail, the Eskar for trail as well as many other tread patterns. The GRIDs have super thick sidewalls, heavy but will hold up to tough rocks. If its rocky terrain you're into, go with the GRID offerings from Spec. If you want a medium for weight and durability, go with the standard 2bliss Spec. USTs.

    I dont buy Kendas anymore. I blew 3 of them, right at the bead, on these same exact rock-ladden trails that the Spec. GRIDS have been holding up well on with no probs. Looks like Kendas continue their reputation for junk tires!

    The good thing about Spec tires also is they carry a warranty. If you tear the sidewall or have a problem, the LBS can take them back and you get new ones. Worth the $50+/tire IHMO.
    Have you ever actually seen a UST 29er tire from Spesh? Last I knew they had never actually produced any for sale, despite them being listed onthe website (out of stock) for the last couple of years.
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    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
    29er Tire Weight Database

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    I took some advice and ran a maxxis ignitor on the rear of my RIP9 with Flow rims and stans goop. Sealed great and held air, but on my second ride I put a 1/4 inch tear in the side wall. Don't know if it's the durability of the tire or just my bad luck, but I think I'm going to try the Nevegal or Rampage in the back.

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    I take it it was one of the old versions and not the new EXO sidewall version? I used my Ignitors very sucessfully for about 4-6 months with no issues tubeless - old version.

    Quote Originally Posted by KnucklDragr
    I took some advice and ran a maxxis ignitor on the rear of my RIP9 with Flow rims and stans goop. Sealed great and held air, but on my second ride I put a 1/4 inch tear in the side wall. Don't know if it's the durability of the tire or just my bad luck, but I think I'm going to try the Nevegal or Rampage in the back.
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    Clyde sized here, running Flows.

    Good stuff:

    For the rear

    Rampage, Cabellero 2.25, Prowler2 .1

    Needs help, sealant and prayer to seal up:

    Racing Ralph 2.25.

    Never got the sidewalls porous holes to seal up after a week and a half.

    Mountain King 2.2.


    What I'd really like to try for the wet winter months here in the mud and clay... Mountain King 2.4. The 2.2 didn't have quite enough volume for meto bite when pumped up, and when aired down even slightly, had the flatty squirmy feel like the back end was loose and going to fall apart. YMMV if you are smaller and lighter than me at 240 pound wet.

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    Been running 29" Ardent 2.4s front (18-20 lb) and rear (21-23 lb) tubeless on Stans Flows with Stans sealant since spring with no issues. They need a one or two pumps every few days. Like 'em.
    Use it, use it, use it while you still have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    I take it it was one of the old versions and not the new EXO sidewall version? I used my Ignitors very sucessfully for about 4-6 months with no issues tubeless - old version.

    I guess it was the old version. I was running it pretty low pressure on some wet rocks. I think it just caught the edge wrong and ripped it. I might give them a try again, great traction and light.

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    Nevegals

    Quote Originally Posted by roll0ver
    I know these are not on the OPs list of tires, but this seems like the right thread to ask: I'm considering the Ignitors or the Kenda Nevegals. I'm fine either way but the mechanic at my LBS seemed to really like the compounds in the Nevegals; can anyone tell me about their experience running the Nevegals tubeless?
    Hi! Here in Denmark, Europe we have a lot of mud/rain all year and snow for the moment/winter - I ride allmost the same setup on both my 29'ers: crossmark 2,1 in the back and nevegal 2,2 in the front on stan flow (bike1 - Singular Swift/steel) and crest (bike2 - custombuild/TI) tubeless with notubes sealing. The grip with nevegal in front is outstanding in ALL conditions also in summer/very dry paths. In the back I ran the nevegal (bike1) for a year winter & summer with no suspension front or back which was great with very low pressure to suck up roots and bumps, and It is very well suited for snow! With crossmark in the back it gives me a faster feeling in races on dry tracks and it also performs well in mud and snow, so it's a combo I don't think I will change if I can get new nevegals here in Denmark when time is

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