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    Here she is right after getting her home. Definitely going to need some dialing in. Felt like I was over the handlebars on a short ride around the block. No way I could hit the trail like that. Trek Sawyer-uploadfromtaptalk1435451678062.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fett View Post
    I just listed my Trek Sawyer for sale in the mtbr classifieds. Check it out in the 29er hardtail category. It is a really nice bike.
    Dropped price in classifieds to $999
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    Awesome BigVaz! It has been a few weeks now and I am really syncing with my Sawyer. I did pick up a Reba front shock, but still have yet to put it on, I am digging the new twist that rigid puts into a ride. Keep us posted as you mod it, ride it etc.

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    I'm currently setting it up SS. All the parts should arrive by this weekend. The fork it came with wasn't g2, so I pulled it and threw on the stock fork.

    I've been looking for a g2/51mm fork, but I'm coming up empty. I really don't want to spend $500 on a new fork & all I can find are tapered steerers. Bummer

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    At some point I am going to roll with the Reba. its 100mm so that is good, but I am guessing it's more of a 46mm offset or so, but I am going to roll with it anyway. Did it not handle well with the fork that was on there?

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    The fork I had was a 46mm Rockshox Recon.

    I'm exaggerating here, but I felt like the rim was going to fold under the bike. I'm a bigger dude & that "Over The Bar" feeling is no bueno...

    Just a quick spin on the stock fork felt better. It was just enough to get a much better feeling.



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    I also threw on some wider bars (785mm) and a 90mm Stem. Much better imo...

    I ordered a 70mm stem to try out, so we'll see. I'm hoping to have the bike dialed by this fall. Then it's tear down and paint time.

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    The last few rides have been much more fun

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    So I figured out that the Reba I have is a 2008 model with 39mm offset. This seems really far off from the G2 51mm geometry. Should I not even attempt it? Seems it will really change the geometry and perhaps even cause issues with the head tube. Thoughts? I did post this is the suspension section and was advised against trying it. I think I might tend to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CObiker123 View Post
    So I figured out that the Reba I have is a 2008 model with 39mm offset. This seems really far off from the G2 51mm geometry. Should I not even attempt it? Seems it will really change the geometry and perhaps even cause issues with the head tube. Thoughts? I did post this is the suspension section and was advised against trying it. I think I might tend to agree.
    it will slow down the steering, can't hurt to try it though
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    I would think that offset would make the steering more twitchy.

    It couldn't hurt to try it depending on the terrain you ride. The guy I bought this bike from said he didn't notice the difference in the offset, but I noticed immediately.

    If riding very slow techy type terrain you might dig it. I wasn't a fan tho...



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    Thanks all. BV what was the offset was the fork that your Sawyer came with? Seems that around 2009 or 2010, most companies switched to a 46mm offset, which I have heard is 'close enough'.

    I guess it can't hurt to try, but I ride faster flowy single track more than slow and tech.

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    It was a 46mm. I didn't like it. Wasn't close enough for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigVaz View Post
    I'm currently setting it up SS. All the parts should arrive by this weekend. The fork it came with wasn't g2, so I pulled it and threw on the stock fork.

    I've been looking for a g2/51mm fork, but I'm coming up empty. I really don't want to spend $500 on a new fork & all I can find are tapered steerers. Bummer

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    If I recall correctly, Guitar Ted had a review of the Sawyer where he put a 46mm offset squishy fork on it and gave his two cents.

    If you want rigid, I believe the long OS Blackbuck forks match the Sawyer forks with 475mm axle to crown and 51mm offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmmorath View Post
    If I recall correctly, Guitar Ted had a review of the Sawyer where he put a 46mm offset squishy fork on it and gave his two cents.

    If you want rigid, I believe the long OS Blackbuck forks match the Sawyer forks with 475mm axle to crown and 51mm offset.
    I have run the Sawyer with a 2008 Fox fork with G2 offset quite a bit. The Fox fork is easy to service, so buying a lightly used one and having it serviced should prove to be reasonable as far as price. Straight steer tube, of course. My Fox fork is 100mm and it plays well with the Sawyer's geometry, albeit the BB height is a bit much, in my opinion.

    I would imagine Rebas are out there as well in the 51mm offset which could be serviced and used on the Sawyer. I have one I use on a Fargo I picked up three years ago with a straight steer tube. Those forks are out there, you just may have to be patient and dig a little to turn one up.
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    Patients isn't my strong suit... I've been looking on ebay & craigslist, but haven't found anything yet.

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    Got her all done and ready for the trail. Hoping to get out within the next week or so. Pretty excited with this bike.

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    looks Jones-esque

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    After the first ride the rear wheel shifted when I stood up and smashed up a hill. I cranked it back down & hopefully it won't move....

    In other news, I've been searching Craigslist & eBay for a fork & I'm coming up empty.... I'm already thinking of getting rid of this thing for something that's got a tapered steerer...

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    Had some issues with slipping too. Removed the all the bolts, cleaned everything up set the adjusters and really made sure the lock nuts on the adjusters were tightened down good and it has been good through the past few rides - 50 miles or so with some good mashing climbs. I have been watching a few G2 forks that have gone for $200ish but haven't pulled the trigger yet. They are out there but I know you're not patient.

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    I'd gladly pay $200... I'm only seeing them go for over $350-400.

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    Hate to increase the competition but I'm a a bit out from buying one anyway. Search for G2 or 51mm. I was watching one that sold yesterday for $220. They are not new by any means but seem workable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CObiker123 View Post
    Hate to increase the competition but I'm a a bit out from buying one anyway. Search for G2 or 51mm. I was watching one that sold yesterday for $220. They are not new by any means but seem workable.
    Are you just looking on ebay?

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    Craigslist too, but not finding much locally. Don't get me wrong I have not seen a ton but a couple in the past month or so

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    Afternoon all,

    Anyone know if AkitaMan is still active on the forums? I'm trying to hunt down a pair of his plus Sawyer dropouts.

    Cheers all,

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    Trek Sawyer-sawyer-betasso.jpg

    Figured I would post a quick pic from yesterday. The more I ride this bike the more it is jiving with me. I spent some trail time playing with tire pressure and it has really made all the difference in the world with that rigid front. I think the carbon bars have helped too. I am really finding my groove with it. And I rode without my usual, fairly heavy hydration pack, just a water bottle and small tool pouch under the seat. Amazingly liberating. Ride was only 8 miles and 1000 vert, so it was perfect for that.

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    Hey cool another Sawyer in Boulder! Rode mine for the first time in a while today and forgot how much fun this bike is.
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    Sweet man, I know of 2 others in Boulder including mine. Looks like you have modified a bit, let's hear what's on there.

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    Nice! Would be fun to meet up sometime. I've got it set up single speed with notubes wheels (355 rear, arch front). Stock bars/stem. XTR 960 cranks. Ti eriksen seatpost and a selle anatomica saddle for some cushion in the rear. So simple and such a fun bike.

    Is yours single speed? Was thinking of trying it out at Betasso but wasn't sure how doable it would be with one gear. Definitely would avoid the link trail

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    Yup, single speed. I picked it up a few weeks ago totally stock. Switched to SS, 32/20 and Betasso is a favorite place to ride it, totally doable (minus the link - ugh). Hope to see you out there sometime.

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    Finally picked up a bouncy fork (reba) over the weekend with the g2 geometry. Now I just need to find time to test it out.
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    Probably need some white grips & saddle...

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    Nice going. Where did you find it? Have been following one on eBay but went for more than I wanted. Doesn't matter for now anyway. Bailed on the Sawyer yesterday and dislocated my shoulder. Gives me some time to track one down I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CObiker123 View Post
    Nice going. Where did you find it? Have been following one on eBay but went for more than I wanted. Doesn't matter for now anyway. Bailed on the Sawyer yesterday and dislocated my shoulder. Gives me some time to track one down I guess.
    Got lucky and found it on Craigslist right when it was posted. Drove over an hour for it. Including gas spent, it cost $240.00

    Not bad.
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    Great deal. That is the range I'm looking for. Hope it treats you well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CObiker123 View Post
    Great deal. That is the range I'm looking for. Hope it treats you well.
    I'm hoping so too.

    Hopefully you have a speedy recovery.
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    Needing to do something different with the bars my Sawyer . All I know is that the stock bars aren't cutting it anymore. I thought about trying some drop bars but not sure if shifters/ brakes are made to adapt to hydraulic brakes. I am just not comfortable with that hand position anymore. Any thoughts?

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    I really tried to like the Crivitz and just couldn't get the feeling of control I wanted. I went with some pretty standard carbon bars. 680 length, which is just about what the Crivitz are, but went with a 20 degree rise which works good for me. I would look at some traditional mostly straight MTB bars.

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    i had a sawyer a few years ago, really liked it. I've since built my own rigid, twin tubed frameset. Blatant plug i know, but thought you might like it.Trek Sawyer-2-front-purple.jpg

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    great lines on that frame, let's hear about it.

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    What handlebar is that?

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    @stopbreakwind, the bar is a Salsa 23 degree bend bar with 50mm of widening bar ends in to make them 760 wide, they're a great bar either way.

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    Thanks for liking it. the name of my company is Stooge Cycles, i'm a small one man business in the UK. The frame is designed to be a rigid 'trail' bike, meaning its designed to be ridden hard, with relatively slack geometry and a taller than usual front end that's designed to take the hammer from your wrists. it works really well, though i guess i would say that its also designed around 29+ front, regular 29er rear, though it works great with 650B+ too, as in the picture. My shameless plug should probably end there.

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    I have a Trek Sawyer in the mtbr classifieds. 17.5" frame (med) for $850.

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    My baby. Ive had the bike for a couple years and really like it. Rides great, looks awesome, and its simple. This summer a few of us from our local club planned to attend the IMBA summit in Marquette Mi, I found out Gary Fisher was going to be in attendance. I thought it would be awesome to replace the sticker of his signature with the real thing. As a powder coater who specializes in bike frames I couldn't just leave the factory grey paint. Since I was doing it up I figured I may as well keep rolling. Ive been a mtb'r for 20 years now and always wanted a set of wheels with king hubs, I had a little spending cash. SO I made it happen, building up a set of wheels to give the 27+ thing a try.







    This is the result.

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    Awesome!

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    That is Dope 9G9! Thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnl1105 View Post
    I also have a lefty on mine which is completely setup as a 29+, I also have a lefty on my fat tire and am considering running my spare lefty on some version of a street bike???maybe my alsop softride lol Attachment 903108
    You fit 29+ tires on your Sawyer? Was thinking of doing it to mine. Will a 29x3.0 tire fit in the rear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnl1105 View Post
    Well, have the 29+ running on the sawyer, had 2 make 2 different sets of dropouts but it now works, made my dropouts out of steel as I figured the additional leverage might "decimate" 5/16 thick aluminum plate.

    What i learned... if you want to find out how f'ed up manufacturing tolerances are try this project, I found my frame is out of square, the tire is out of round as is the tube yet the rim isn't, the knobies on the side of the tire are different heights rim....


    but it sure looks pretty in the end LOL
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    SSF "Sawyer Sorta Fat"

    Thought I'd share the latest incarnation of my 19" Sawyer frame... a "half fat, Half 650B+" bike.

    I went with Fat B Nimble tires: 27.5x3.5 rear, 26x4 front. Velocity Blunt 35 rear, Dually front rims. The diameter of the front tire is slightly larger than the rear due to casing size.

    The bike runs an orphaned Waltworks fat fork. The fork rides like buttah! This is a gravel crusher bike, mostly used for the 11 mile trek to my favorite pub. I haven't ridden it much but during the initial shakedowns it has been brilliant!

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    I got rid of my fat b nimbles. Under hard cranking they were rubbing the seat stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9GUY9 View Post
    I got rid of my fat b nimbles. Under hard cranking they were rubbing the seat stays.
    What wheels were you running? I haven't had that problem yet, even with the dropouts all the way forward. My rear tire is unusually true, and I futzed with the dish of the wheel a bit until I got it dead center. Fingers crossed I won't have problems but it is tight at the seat stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrstein View Post
    What wheels were you running? I haven't had that problem yet, even with the dropouts all the way forward. My rear tire is unusually true, and I futzed with the dish of the wheel a bit until I got it dead center. Fingers crossed I won't have problems but it is tight at the seat stays.

    I am running 50mm MuleFut's. That could be part of our different observations. I also have a 17.5" frame, which may be slightly smaller.

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    Ferrstein How's the fitment on the back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwmopar View Post
    Ferrstein How's the fitment on the back?
    Works nicely with 35mm rims but it is tight on the seat stays as mentioned above. I did play around a little with wheel dishing but it's fine. Plenty of clearance at the chainstays and no issues with chain-tire rub at all with a 1x setup. Some 2x cranksets may even work.

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    I would like to run 27.5+ derby rims with industry nine hubs and t-fatty 3.25 tires maybe 3.0 if I have to. With a 1x drivetrain

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    So I added monster moustache bars from a Spot Highline I have since sold, swapped drivetrains with my Blackbuck and added a Knard on the front so now I have a fixed-gear-monster-half-mid-fat-I-don't-know-what. Test rode it to work today. It is awesome.

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    I've been looking for a frame, medium or large. These are being scarce but I'm not going to pay a premium price. Guess I'll just have to keep my eyes open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I've been looking for a frame, medium or large. These are being scarce but I'm not going to pay a premium price.
    Translation : I want rare bike but I'm not willing to pay for the rarity.

    What would a "Premium" price be and what would you consider to be a "fair" price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    Translation : I want rare bike but I'm not willing to pay for the rarity.

    What would a "Premium" price be and what would you consider to be a "fair" price?
    Well I guess that's your interpretation. I wouldn't really call them rare. I've seen plenty of built bikes for around $700-$750. I've been riding for 52 years and have owned a lot of bikes. I've never payed a "premuim" price for any bike. I can be patient for the right deal. I like the looks of the frame and they have room for a decent size tire in back. I could just as easily buy a Krampus frame and be happy.

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    I paid $850. I'm now rebuilding it with new components so that premium will jump when I'm done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwmopar View Post
    I paid $850. I'm now rebuilding it with new components so that premium will jump when I'm done.
    So was this a built bike? Stock components? What are your builds plans? I kind of like the idea of 29er and 27.5+. After riding a Specialized Fuse and reading some reports on the Sawyer 27.5 builds I think I would like to go that route first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I could just as easily buy a Krampus frame and be happy.
    You should do that then. You're using the classic move of "downplaying". You're downplaying the unique features of the bike to rationalize your cheapness. The Sawyer is much more rare than a Krampus any way you spin it. These were only sold for two years..

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    This was a complete bike stock besides stem a seatpost clamp. My plans are 27.5+ with a 1x drivetrain new powdercoat frame and fork. May upgrade fork(don't want to take away from the look of the bike). I would like to run 27.5+ derby rims with industry nine hubs and t-fatty 3.25 tires maybe 3.0 if I have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    You should do that then. You're using the classic move of "downplaying". You're downplaying the unique features of the bike to rationalize your cheapness. The Sawyer is much more rare than a Krampus any way you spin it. These were only sold for two years..
    My cheapness? Screw off. You don't know me. I would pay a fair price but I wouldn't over pay . How would that make any sense? Go troll someone else.

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    I would pay a fair price but I wouldn't over pay . How would that make any sense? Go troll someone else.
    Fair price is whatever they sell for. If that's too rich for you, that doesn't mean the price isn't "fair". I own one of these bikes. Have since 2011 and it was new.

    Considering there are litterally 5x more Krampus bikes on eBay, I say there are probably just a few more Krampus(es?) in exsistance than Sawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    Fair price is whatever they sell for. If that's too rich for you, that doesn't mean the price isn't "fair". I own one of these bikes. Have since 2011 and it was new.

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    Once again, I never said I wouldn't pay the going price. I said I wouldn't pay more than that. How is that being a cheap ass? If you are looking to me to make some money to pay the rent look elsewhere. I NEVER said the going price is too much for me. I have no idea what delusional world you are living in. Quote me where I said that I would not pay fair price. You can't because this is pure troll. Now go cuddle your previous Sawyer.

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    What was the msrp on these new back then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Once again, I never said I wouldn't pay the going price. I said I wouldn't pay more than that. How is that being a cheap ass? If you are looking to me to make some money to pay the rent look elsewhere. I NEVER said the going price is too much for me.
    You said you wouldn't pay a premium for one. Well, they all sell for a premium over other steel rigid 29ers. Then you mentioned 750 specifically... They sell for more than that regularly. No one is paying rent on the sale of a used bike but it sure seems like you're waiting for the guy that's down on his luck to let go of his bike too cheap and you're here bragging about it.

    You've wanted one, seen plenty for sale for a "fair" price and haven't purchased one. Seems like you want a better price.
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    What was the msrp on these new back then?
    IIRC $1450

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    I looked all over and bought the first one under a grand. Love it and don't regret it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    You said you wouldn't pay a premium for one. Well, they all sell for a premium over other steel rigid 29ers. Then you mentioned 750 specifically... They sell for more than that regularly. No one is paying rent on the sale of a used bike but it sure seems like you're waiting for the guy that's down on his luck to let go of his bike too cheap and you're here bragging about it.


    IIRC $1450
    Once again, last time for me, I'm running out of troll food. Please stop. You don't know me and you have some twisted interpretation of what you read. I don't want to buy your bike. I will buy one from someone else. They will set the price, as sellers do. I don't have super powers to make someone sell a frame for less than they want to, nor would I. Have a nice day and please don't respond, or at least if you do make sure it makes as much sense as your previous posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Once again, last time for me
    Calling someone names doesn't make you right... My Sawyer isn't for sale, and you couldn't afford it if it were. It would be more than $750.

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    Calling someone names doesn't make you right... My Sawyer isn't for sale, and you couldn't afford it if it were. It would be more than $750.
    Your right. I'm sorry. I underestimated your awesomeness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwmopar View Post
    Who put piss in my apple juice?
    So yes, I'm still interested in your build. I'm really thinking Specialzed Purgatory front and Ground Control rear would be a sweet combo. Since I already have the parts it would be 1X10. I'm with you on the fork thing. Suspension would makes it more versatile but I don't think I could do it. I have other bikes and I can only picture the bike with either the stock fork out a carbon fork with clean lines. <br />
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    [QUOTE=Flash;12334095]So yes, I'm still interested in your build. I'm really thinking Specialzed Purgatory front and Ground Control rear would be a sweet combo. Since I already have the parts it would be 1X10. I'm with you on the fork thing. Suspension would makes it more versatile but I don't think I could do it. I have other bikes and I can only picture the bike with either the stock fork out a carbon fork with clean lines. <br />
    They look retarded with shock forks. Wanted a rockshock rs1 but its a little big and only tapered. Was thinking carbon myself. That third single speed bike on ebay looks good.

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    So yes, I'm still interested in your build. I'm really thinking Specialzed Purgatory front and Ground Control rear would be a sweet combo. Since I already have the parts it would be 1X10. I'm with you on the fork thing. Suspension would makes it more versatile but I don't think I could do it. I have other bikes and I can only picture the bike with either the stock fork out a carbon fork with clean lines. <br />
    They look retarded with shock forks. Wanted a rockshock rs1 but its a little big and only tapered. Was thinking carbon myself. That third single speed bike on ebay looks good.
    Agree totally on the suspension fork. RS1? I don't think I've ever seen a pic of Sawyer with one mounted. Maybe a photo shop project? I think overall I'd go with the stock fork until I could find carbon with similar geometry as stock. I'm pretty sold on 27.5+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9GUY9 View Post
    My baby. Ive had the bike for a couple years and really like it. Rides great, looks awesome, and its simple. This summer a few of us from our local club planned to attend the IMBA summit in Marquette Mi, I found out Gary Fisher was going to be in attendance. I thought it would be awesome to replace the sticker of his signature with the real thing. As a powder coater who specializes in bike frames I couldn't just leave the factory grey paint. Since I was doing it up I figured I may as well keep rolling. Ive been a mtb'r for 20 years now and always wanted a set of wheels with king hubs, I had a little spending cash. SO I made it happen, building up a set of wheels to give the 27+ thing a try.







    This is the result.
    That is beyond beautiful. Do you ride that on the Marquette trails? I'd hate to see that beauty get wrecked on the rocks!

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    I really lucked out on my frame. I paid $800 for a new Sawyer in between model years. Good deals can be had, and I think a $7-800 price point is a reasonable expectation. There was one here on Craigslist in Las Vegas for a looooong time and the price just kept dropping. Las I saw it was down to $1k and I bet it could be had for $800 or less.

    I have basically just sat on my sawyer since buying it. I've ridden it a few times on pavement, and had plans to build it up as a beach bike with some fatties when I lived in SoCal. Then I moved to Vegas . . . so no more beach. But I've grown re interested in the bike and am thinking of what to do with it next. I'm likely getting a new trail bike soon and will port the parts from my existing build over to the sawyer. Hope brakes and CK hubs primarily. Will likely build it as a singlespeed with 27.5+. Considering a belt drive too but not sure yet.
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    Well, as I posted a while back, I blew out my shoulder riding in late August and have spent the past 3.5 months recovering from surgery. Still going, but have come a long way. To occupy my time, I decided to tear the bike down, spend time tracking down some new parts and, well, one thing led to another and here she is.
    I never sealed the inside so figured I would start there, once the frame was stripped down it seemed like a good time to powdercoat.
    New parts include Thompson stem and seatpost, CK headset, XTR cranks and BB, Stan's Arch front wheel (back coming for xmas hopefully) oh and found a 2011 G2 fox fork that I cleaned up, rebuilt and stripped the stickers from. I am super psyched with how it came out and can not wait to get out on the trail. I just got cleared from surgeon for road riding, so hopefully the dirt is not too far away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CObiker123 View Post
    Well, as I posted a while back, I blew out my shoulder riding in late August and have spent the past 3.5 months recovering from surgery. Still going, but have come a long way. To occupy my time, I decided to tear the bike down, spend time tracking down some new parts and, well, one thing led to another and here she is.
    I never sealed the inside so figured I would start there, once the frame was stripped down it seemed like a good time to powdercoat.
    New parts include Thompson stem and seatpost, CK headset, XTR cranks and BB, Stan's Arch front wheel (back coming for xmas hopefully) oh and found a 2011 G2 fox fork that I cleaned up, rebuilt and stripped the stickers from. I am super psyched with how it came out and can not wait to get out on the trail. I just got cleared from surgeon for road riding, so hopefully the dirt is not too far away.
    Looks Awesome! Let us know how it rides once you're able to really thrash it!

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    I know of at least one of you on a Sawyer with a 27.5+ setup . . . how's the Sawyer feel with the semi-fatties?

    It's a long complicated story, but I'm soon to find myself with a surplus of high end parts. I'm looking at my Sawyer as a potential new home for them all and am thinking about building up something totally unique from my other bike. I'm really considering a 27.5+ rigid SS . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I know of at least one of you on a Sawyer with a 27.5+ setup . . . how's the Sawyer feel with the semi-fatties?

    It's a long complicated story, but I'm soon to find myself with a surplus of high end parts. I'm looking at my Sawyer as a potential new home for them all and am thinking about building up something totally unique from my other bike. I'm really considering a 27.5+ rigid SS . . . .

    Personally I think it ruined the bike. My sawyer was quick and fun set up as a ss 29'r. As a 27+ SS it feels like the brakes are dragging. The added volume of a 27.5x3" tire is hardly noticeable compared to a nice 29x2.3, but I certainly feel the loss of roll over and extra rotating weight. I spent a lot on a 27+ wheelset built around King Hubs and I really regret doing so. With the large selection of great 29'r tires available I would not do it again.

    So...want to buy a set of 27.5" wheels that fit a sawyer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9GUY9 View Post
    Personally I think it ruined the bike. My sawyer was quick and fun set up as a ss 29'r. As a 27+ SS it feels like the brakes are dragging. The added volume of a 27.5x3" tire is hardly noticeable compared to a nice 29x2.3, but I certainly feel the loss of roll over and extra rotating weight. I spent a lot on a 27+ wheelset built around King Hubs and I really regret doing so. With the large selection of great 29'r tires available I would not do it again.

    So...want to buy a set of 27.5" wheels that fit a sawyer?
    Wow; this might just be one of the most honest opinions I've read on this whole site!

    That's a bummer about your build. At least you can re-use the hubs to build up a nice set of 29" wheels? I might still do it though . . . I have a trail rocket already. A 27.5+ Sawyer would be built with the intention of bumbling along, slowly . . . I'd put a Jones Loop H-bar on it, an easy pedaling gear, and a belt drive to keep things quiet (and low maintenance). I suppose I could do this with a 29er too though and have more tire/rim options. We'll see!
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    I made my Sawyer into a 27.5+ SS and I really like it. I loved the bike before, but never really rode it off road, due my 6 other mountain bike being faster and lighter. I tried to sell it, but wasn't getting what I wanted out of it, so I decided to repurpose. I have enjoyed the heck out hitting the trails on a SS. This time of year on the rougher frozen trails, it was a nice compromise between my fat bike and XC bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9GUY9 View Post
    Personally I think it ruined the bike. My sawyer was quick and fun set up as a ss 29'r. As a 27+ SS it feels like the brakes are dragging. The added volume of a 27.5x3" tire is hardly noticeable compared to a nice 29x2.3, but I certainly feel the loss of roll over and extra rotating weight. I spent a lot on a 27+ wheelset built around King Hubs and I really regret doing so. With the large selection of great 29'r tires available I would not do it again.

    So...want to buy a set of 27.5" wheels that fit a sawyer?
    I can agree with this, my sawyer is currently SS 34/22 with 27.5 fat-b-nimbles and an 80mm fox

    It's not a rocket but it's still fun to ride, it is super comfortable and the traction is much appreciated, but I primarily ride it when meandering around with the wife or just out putzing by myself

    I wouldn't be taking it on a fast paced group ride, but in my case I'd get dropped on any SS on a group ride
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    Finally tracked one down in my size.

    Updated the drivetrain and brakes to 1*11 XT. Next is to chnage the grips to something with more cush, amd finally a hub swap to DT Swiss 350s, once I source some 292mm spokes locally.

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    Trek Sawyer-heil-ranch.jpgI mentioned a while back that during a mandatory shoulder surgery break I completely tore down and rebuilt my Sawyer. I think the only thing stock is the frame at this point. I love how it came out. I have finally been riding on and off for a couple months and luckily with the weather on the front range of CO, I have had a fair amount of opportunity. Been spending most of my time on some beginner-ish local trails I can ride to from my house. I ride these trails a lot and while there is nothing overly tech about them, they are nice - single and double track, a pretty good 4-6% jeep road climb, enough to keep you entertained. As the shoulder heals, I am getting more adventurous and yesterday rode a trail that I normally would just bring out the full squish bike, but opted for the Sawyer. It was the best ride I have had in a long time. Its pretty rocky terrain with a sustained climb up and then just rips on the way down. I freaking love this bike more than ever. For the first time, I was really able to feel the steel frame flex and be compliant in just the right spots and really smooth out the trail as much as a hard tail can. My previous single speed was a steel Kona Unit that I loved, but I never got the feedback from the frame like I did on the Sawyer. This bike is a keeper!

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    Does anyone off hand have the specs on the BB? I have a new RF Turbine Cinch and BB looking for a home, and wondering if the Sawyer is it.
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    Does anyone off hand have the specs on the BB? I have a new RF Turbine Cinch and BB looking for a home, and wondering if the Sawyer is it.
    I believe it's a 73mm shell.

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    I know that Sawyer isínt a good option for weight weenie community but I was wondering who got the lightest build here?

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    007 - yes, the BB on the Sawyer is 73mm

    Voheip, I have mine at 26.5 pounds on a digital Park scale. That's with single speed set up and a front shock. The stock fork, while heavy, would be a pound lighter than the Fox that's on there.

    I have read of low 20's Sawyers and I believe it.

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    New(ish) Sawyer SS Build

    I posted this in the rigid SS thread, but couldn't find the Sawyer thread at the time:
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    This frame was sitting in my basement for several years and I had been trying to sell it. But when my daily ride's derailleur picked up a stick and ate itself, I decided I needed a spare ride. So - now I have a belt-drive SS! :-)

    But here's the $5 question: Does anyone know if there's a manufacturer making replacement dropouts for this thing? I would like to build up a SS specific rear wheel with a through axle - but that won't work with the QR dropouts. I saw a previous post on here about someone making their own or having them fabbed at a machine shop. Maybe that's what I'll have to do.
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    An old thread here, but I just picked up a Sawyer on ebay and was wondering if any of the folks that repainted their frames had them stripped first? I would think so, and just wondering what the frame looked like "raw?" I thinking of stripping it, and am hoping the raw steel shows the welding marks. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    so as not to leave you hanging, but not able to answer. I had mine sand blasted and powder coated, so I never saw it raw. I did think about the raw with clear coat look too though. I have nothing to base this on, but my thought was that it wouldn't look like I would hope. Maybe a little more of a mass production than handmade look. I liked the Battleship Grey (?) but that frame looks so good with some color. Just go for it and see. Great bike/frame. I absolutely love mine and it is definitely the bike that gets the most use.

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    Thanks for the feedback. I think I will just go for it, and see what it looks like. Worse case, I'll just have it powder coated.

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    Make sure to let us know what you find. Pics too.

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    It won't be too soon, but will do for sure.

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    You will need to chemically strip the fame if you want the raw look with welding marks. Abrasive removal of the paint will erase welding marks, and generally leave the steel a dull grey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9GUY9 View Post
    You will need to chemically strip the fame if you want the raw look with welding marks. Abrasive removal of the paint will erase welding marks, and generally leave the steel a dull grey.
    Awesome, thank you!

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    Can i get some suggestions for converting the original stock Sawyer drivetrain to a single speed?

    I'd like to avoid using a tensioner for looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappable View Post
    Can i get some suggestions for converting the original stock Sawyer drivetrain to a single speed?

    I'd like to avoid using a tensioner for looks.
    the sawyer was designed with a SS (or even belt drive) tensioner into the rear dropouts... will can be as simple as removing the inner/outer rings from the crankset and then a SS conversion kit on the rear wheel and cut the chain... ideally I'd replace the crank cog with a SS specific one and a proper SS chain...
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    I have debated powder coating mine.....but with the anodized red headset/bottom bracket/nipples on wheels, plus the red accents of the older X-O stuff, the gray makes the red and white (spokes on RXL wheels) pop.....That being said, a cool powder coat color with subdued components would be pretty cool.

    And no doubt if the welds/brazing is nice looking, clear-coated raw would look pretty bad ass!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mappable View Post
    Can i get some suggestions for converting the original stock Sawyer drivetrain to a single speed?

    I'd like to avoid using a tensioner for looks.
    Yep, all you need is a cog and spacers for the rear hub, and a single chain ring! The Sawyer has sliding dropouts already.

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    Does anyone out there have a fork off a 21" that they'd need willing to part with.

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    does anyone here still have their Sawyer?

    I'm thinkng of putting dropbars on it, question is which brake lever fits the stock disc brake?

    TIA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeliam View Post
    does anyone here still have their Sawyer?

    I'm thinkng of putting dropbars on it, question is which brake lever fits the stock disc brake?

    TIA!
    I still have mine. I primarily use it for gravel/light trail riding. I've been thinking about adding rack mounts to the fork legs so I can add a porter rack. It's still one of my favorite bikes.

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    Still have mine and it is my primary mountain bike. Just somewhat recently, SRAM, Shimano and maybe some others have started offering hydraulic brake levers for road bikes/drop bars. I would guess they will work with the stock Avid calipers. Let us know how it turns out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morton.tj View Post
    Yep, all you need is a cog and spacers for the rear hub, and a single chain ring! The Sawyer has sliding dropouts already.

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    Morton, how was the conversion to belt as far as finding the right tension and more importantly having the sliders stay at the right tension? What size cog and ring are you running? I was advised that a 42/26 would be close to my 32/20. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeliam View Post
    does anyone here still have their Sawyer?

    I'm thinkng of putting dropbars on it, question is which brake lever fits the stock disc brake?

    TIA!
    I ride mine at least three hours per week on single-track. I never had the stock brakes, so I can't help you out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by CObiker123 View Post
    Morton, how was the conversion to belt as far as finding the right tension and more importantly having the sliders stay at the right tension? What size cog and ring are you running? I was advised that a 42/26 would be close to my 32/20. Thanks.
    It took me a while to get the right tension. I bought the belt, the ring, and the cog from a friend and the belt was a bit short. With the sliders all the way forward, the belt was under extreme tension. I got a 2 cm longer belt and it gave me 1/4-3/8 of an inch clearance. The drive side slider seems to slip forward sometimes and I have to readjust it. Other than that, after initial setup, I've had no problems. I believe I'm running 46/28 (1.64:1), which is just slightly taller than your current 32/20 (1.60:1). The 42/26 is 1.62:1 - very close to your current gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeliam View Post
    does anyone here still have their Sawyer?

    I'm thinkng of putting dropbars on it, question is which brake lever fits the stock disc brake?

    TIA!
    If you decide to go with traditional road brake levers, be sure that your mechanical brake calipers are the road version. There is a difference, and I know from experience that mountain versions of the calipers have a different "pull" than the road. If you're running gears, you also have to take into account matching SRAM brake/shifters with a SRAM drivetrain, and Shimano with Shimano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeliam View Post
    does anyone here still have their Sawyer?

    I'm thinkng of putting dropbars on it, question is which brake lever fits the stock disc brake?

    TIA!
    Will, I can solve your problem, just sell the Sawyer to me.
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    This is not my listing, but if anybody is looking for a sawyer (minus a few parts), here is a 17.5" that is on ebay right now for $500 + 100 shipping. Just needs wheels, pedals, seatpost and saddle. I have an original saddle, seatpost, and stock handlebars that I pulled from mine that I'd be willing to part with for very little if you wanted.

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    Sawyer v.4

    I love that this frame is so versatile. I've had it as a SS, Dinglespeed, Alfine 11 and now, gasp... gears!
    The only thing that remains stock is the headset and brake set.

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    If anyone is looking to sell their Sawyer in the Colorado area, or you'd be willing to ship, hit me up!!!!!!!!!!
    Get out and Ride!!!

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    just saw one this morning on the Boulder or Denver craigslist - $650

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    Sawyer v3

    I recently picked up another single speed so took the opportunity to do a Sawyer version 3. I went from SS to 1x10. I like it, but still not sure what to do with the other 9 gears! XT long cage with clutch, XT Shifter, Race Face 32t Narrow/Wide and an SLX 10 spd cassette.
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    I just picked up a 2011 Trek Sawyer and I was wondering... Generically speaking, is there enough clearance front and rear to run a tire like a 29x2.40 Maxxis Ardent or would I be better off with something smaller? Planning to use WTB i23 rims.

    If it matters at all, riding would be a combination of off-road (cross country) and paved bike path riding with my daughter.
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    Ardents are fine!

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    I am running a 2.35 or 2.4 Aggressor in the rear and they run fine, just have to have the sliders back a bit.

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    Hey all! Coming in late, but glad there's a good Sawyer thread to chime in on!

    I'm actually looking to get rid of my wife's Trek Sawyer. It's a Medium (17.5") and because it's such a sweet frame, I'm now on the hunt for a 21" for myself!

    Anyone in the market for a 17.5, and/or looking to let go of a 21"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbalue View Post
    Hey all! Coming in late, but glad there's a good Sawyer thread to chime in on!

    I'm actually looking to get rid of my wife's Trek Sawyer. It's a Medium (17.5") and because it's such a sweet frame, I'm now on the hunt for a 21" for myself!

    Anyone in the market for a 17.5, and/or looking to let go of a 21"?
    I might be interested in your 17.5 Sawyer. What are you asking for it and where are you located?

    Thanks
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    Steve, I'm in Fort Collins. Looking for $800(ish) complete, or $500 frame/fork.

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    My new ride...

    I picked this guy up last fall on ebay. The seller advertised it as a full Shimano XT bike with a frame in good condition. What arrived was a bike with mostly low-end parts. The paint had also seen MUCH better days. Anyways... I decided to make the most of the bait and switch sucker move that I fell for and I've been slowly building the bike with a mix of new and old parts....

    1st was a strip and satin black powdercoat job done by Heritage Cycles in Chicago, IL. Installed parts so far include:

    Stans wheelset w/ 3.30 hubs
    Sram x9 rear derailleur - 10 speed
    Sram x9 rear shifter - 10 speed
    Avid BB7 disc brakes and rotors
    Avid SD7 brake levers
    Truvativ Stylo crankset
    Sram bottom bracket
    Blackspire 32T chainring
    Sram cassette
    Sram 10 speed chain
    Maxxis Ardent tires
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Kore stem and handlebar
    Ergon saddle and grips

    I still need to clean up the cable routing and install the brake cables. I will probably shorten the chain as well since I installed the chain without removing any links...Trek Sawyer-20180428_155834.jpg
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    That's pretty, been so close to picking one up a couple of times.

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    Added some TOGS

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    My 650B+ conversion with Alfine 8 spd. Love these Super Motos!

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    Wanting to trade my 17.5 frame for a 19 or maybe sell mine.

    Anyone?

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    Hey I sent you a pm!

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    Does anyone else want to sell a sawyer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitedolphin View Post
    Does anyone else want to sell a sawyer?
    Not my bike and I have no affiliation, but there's a nicely spec'd 21" that's been listed on SF Craigslist on and off for the past several weeks. It's not up at the moment - looks like the seller listed it on the bay and you can find it there though.

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    I saw it and it is sick but alas, I am a manlet and need a 17.5 frame :/

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    Iíve been eyeing the sawyer for a while, just waiting for the right size and price to come my way. For those who have run it both ways, do you prefer the 29 or 27.5+ set up? Also, has anyone tried running 29 rear with 29+ front? How wide of a 29er tire can fit in the back? Thanks for any info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideAtDawn View Post
    Iíve been eyeing the sawyer for a while, just waiting for the right size and price to come my way. For those who have run it both ways, do you prefer the 29 or 27.5+ set up? Also, has anyone tried running 29 rear with 29+ front? How wide of a 29er tire can fit in the back? Thanks for any info!
    myself and others on here went fat front and 29+ front, it was okay. I'd prefer full fat or just large volume 29. I fit 29x2.5's in the rear no problem. Mine is currently 27.5+ and SS, feels pretty snappy, turns very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    myself and others on here went fat front and 29+ front, it was okay. I'd prefer full fat or just large volume 29. I fit 29x2.5's in the rear no problem. Mine is currently 27.5+ and SS, feels pretty snappy, turns very well.

    So it sounds like you prefer a more balanced set up one way or the other: large volume 29er front and rear or 27.5+ front and rear. Is that right? Howís bottom bracket height with the plus setup? Thanks again for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideAtDawn View Post
    So it sounds like you prefer a more balanced set up one way or the other: large volume 29er front and rear or 27.5+ front and rear. Is that right? Howís bottom bracket height with the plus setup? Thanks again for the feedback.
    yep, just personal preference. BB height is fine, it is lower but I'm not smacking things, running a 34T ring.
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    Has anyone went bigger with the chainring?. Stock is 38 i believe .

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    Iíve had my Sawyer set up several different ways since I bought it new. Finally have it the way I envisioned it when I bought it, as a rad city cruiser.

    Latest changes were a Surly Sunrise bar, bmx stem and 29x2.5Ē Maxxis Grifter tires.

    Iím running 36x16 for gearing. Plan to mostly use it riding around town with my wife and kids. Iíll probably end up putting a 15t on the back, but need to find/order one.






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    Hey there,anyone have a 17.5* or 19" they want to get rid of? Thanks!

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