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    Torn between Sniper and SB100 - help me!

    A little context, I live in SoCal and have a Tracer SL. I ride a lot of steeps and gnar and love my bike. However lately, I'm doing a less gnar more singletrack and I feel like I have just too much bike. My rides are typically climbing fire roads and going down illegal singletrack in Santa Monica, Laguna or Mt Wilson. I'd probably keep my tracer for days in Simi.

    I'm looking to build up a trail bike that climbs easier but can still handle laguna steeps. I'm torn between another Intense, sniper trail or the SB100. Has anyone ridden both? Can anyone help me distinguish the pros/cons of each? I wish I had a connection to get the Yeti frame closer to the sniper. It's hard based on charts if 1 weighs more than the other. Seems like a complete bike with similar components comes out to about 25 lb for each. The sniper has more aggressive geo, which I think I will appreciate at speed and on the steeps..

    Thanks in advance for any input!
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    I hear that the Sniper has a flexy rear end which would be a deal breaker for me. I am on a Yeti 4.5 and was on an Intense Spider 29 right before it. The Yeti suspension is far better. I think the SB100 will be a better and more stable bike with a stiffer frame. I'd get the Yeti...no contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer View Post
    I hear that...I am on a Yeti 4.5... I'd get the Yeti...no contest.
    Have you ridden either the sniper or the sb100???
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    I have a SB4.5 and the Sniper XC. Yeti is probably stiffer, but the suspension on the Sniper is really good, and the Sniper climbs like a rocket. I ride Laguna all the time. The geo on the Sniper makes it really fun and stable descending, but itís still only 100mm at the end of the day. Very easy to cover miles on the Sniper. I havenít ridden the SB100, but I love the Sniper.


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    I'm looking at the same bikes, plus the RM Element. similar specs/geo. Fezzari Signal Peak is another one to look at, just waiting on more reviews for a lot of these.

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    Are you considering the Sniper XC or the Sniper Trail? Perhaps not as important of a distinction if you plan to build it up from the frame but the trail builds are more comparable to the SB100.

    If I got a new bike right now it'd definitely be between the Sniper Trail and the SB100. Unfortunately I haven't been able to demo the Sniper but have demo'd the SB100 and was really impressed with it. I ride a Salsa Horsethief now and am looking for something that climbs better but can still handle CO singletrack. Based on my demo the SB100 fit that bill perfectly, climbed great and surprisingly I didn't feel I gave up anything on the descents.

    Unfortunately for me, I don't have any connections or hookups to get the Yeti at discount and buying the build I'd want as a complete bike is just a non-starter for me right now based on price. I can afford it, but I can't justify spending 8 grand when my current bike is perfectly fine, albeit a bit slower on the climbs.

    Intense is a lot more attractive to me based on price, which is thanks in part to their direct sales model. The downside of that direct model is that I can't go to an LBS and demo one anywhere around me, and it looks like there are no Intense demo's anywhere near me for the rest of the year either. I don't think I can bring myself to pull the trigger on a bike without ever riding it so despite having new bike fever I think I'm just going to stick with the Salsa.

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    SB100 vs. Sniper

    Did you pick which one? SB100 or Sniper.


    Quote Originally Posted by tgarson View Post
    Are you considering the Sniper XC or the Sniper Trail? Perhaps not as important of a distinction if you plan to build it up from the frame but the trail builds are more comparable to the SB100.

    If I got a new bike right now it'd definitely be between the Sniper Trail and the SB100. Unfortunately I haven't been able to demo the Sniper but have demo'd the SB100 and was really impressed with it. I ride a Salsa Horsethief now and am looking for something that climbs better but can still handle CO singletrack. Based on my demo the SB100 fit that bill perfectly, climbed great and surprisingly I didn't feel I gave up anything on the descents.

    Unfortunately for me, I don't have any connections or hookups to get the Yeti at discount and buying the build I'd want as a complete bike is just a non-starter for me right now based on price. I can afford it, but I can't justify spending 8 grand when my current bike is perfectly fine, albeit a bit slower on the climbs.

    Intense is a lot more attractive to me based on price, which is thanks in part to their direct sales model. The downside of that direct model is that I can't go to an LBS and demo one anywhere around me, and it looks like there are no Intense demo's anywhere near me for the rest of the year either. I don't think I can bring myself to pull the trigger on a bike without ever riding it so despite having new bike fever I think I'm just going to stick with the Salsa.

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    I too am torn between these two bikes. I'm not sure I can justify the price difference with the Yeti. But, I'm worried that the Intense Trail may be flexy, which I hate on any bike. I'm 190 lb. on the trail if that makes a difference.

    I would appreciate any input from those that have rode both.

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    I would reccomend a cannondale scalpel SE, i ride a scalpel SI and find it really good but the SE model could be perfect for you with it's longer travel. It has a fox SC34 fork 120mm to 115mm rear compared to a 100mm/100mm scalpel SI
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    I went with the sb100. Unbelievable bike. It can handle everything that my tracer did although obviously not as forgiving. Climbed much better obviously. But what was new for me was how lively and poppy that bike was compared to the tracer. Itís so much fun! So much so that Iím now looking at the 130 to replace both bikes. Iím actually selling the sb100 now if anyone wants a practically new sb100 at 20%+ discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimoLA View Post
    I went with the sb100. Unbelievable bike. It can handle everything that my tracer did although obviously not as forgiving. Climbed much better obviously. But what was new for me was how lively and poppy that bike was compared to the tracer. Itís so much fun! So much so that Iím now looking at the 130 to replace both bikes. Iím actually selling the sb100 now if anyone wants a practically new sb100 at 20%+ discount.
    I might be interested - size, build and where are you posting for sale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimoLA View Post
    I went with the sb100. Unbelievable bike. It can handle everything that my tracer did although obviously not as forgiving. Climbed much better obviously. But what was new for me was how lively and poppy that bike was compared to the tracer. Itís so much fun! So much so that Iím now looking at the 130 to replace both bikes. Iím actually selling the sb100 now if anyone wants a practically new sb100 at 20%+ discount.

    I may may be interest as well if itís a Large. PM at ckurtz13@gmail.com

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    Hereís the bike. Size large, turq, xo1 race retails for $7999

    Iím selling for $6279 plus fees and shipping

    https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/2442135/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimoLA View Post
    Hereís the bike. Size large, turq, xo1 race retails for $7999

    Iím selling for $6279 plus fees and shipping

    https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/2442135/
    If youíre not grtting bites check out shipping rates with bikeflights. I just sent a GG Smash (aluminum) from colorado to washington for $52. Nice bike!

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    Thatís a good deal! But curious this bike must have been missing something intangible for you to be selling after 2 months especially considering you paid full retail. Still sweet bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimoLA View Post
    Hereís the bike. Size large, turq, xo1 race retails for $7999

    Iím selling for $6279 plus fees and shipping

    https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/2442135/
    25# L with that stock tire/wheel combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetdoctor View Post
    If youíre not grtting bites check out shipping rates with bikeflights. I just sent a GG Smash (aluminum) from colorado to washington for $52. Nice bike!
    Thanks for the advice! I'll do that

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbrockenchain View Post
    Thatís a good deal! But curious this bike must have been missing something intangible for you to be selling after 2 months especially considering you paid full retail. Still sweet bike
    The bike is great, its way more capable than I expected. My original plan was to get this bike for XC and keep my tracer for the more gnarly stuff I like to ride, but I found that the sb100 can actually handle the same trails, just not as forgiving, climbs 1000% better and is super fun. So much so I donít rwqllt want to ride my tracer anymore. So when the 130 came out, it really got me thinking that if I had that, I could sell the 100 and the tracer and just have 1 bike. I won't be totally disappointed if can't sell the sb100 because like I said it's a super fun bike and I still have my tracer.

    Back to the OT, I bet if I had gotten the sniper my original plan would have held. I have seen the sniper in the wild and ridden around the parking lot and it seems to be a bit more of an XC bike. I don't get the sense it would have been able to rip down telonics, but definitely a very fun and capable bike. Geometry is aggressive but overall did not seem as solid as the yeti.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicane32 View Post
    25# L with that stock tire/wheel combo?


    This is the stock tire/wheel combo. You can see on the website. The wheelset is awesome. DtSwiss240, XM1501 spline 25 mm internal. I know a lot of guys swap the tired out with something faster rolling. I found the combo great for the conditions and type of riding I do. I have the same tires on my tracer, just a lot wider.. So I could be biased.
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    Go to intense and demo a sniper and then decide. Just know that that yeti is gonna be badass up and down.

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    I can't recommend a Yeti based on their poor customer service alone.

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    Both bikes have darkish service/user history's...

    Intense are noisy and suffer bearing probs.

    Yeti's break and CS is slow.

    Not sure why you wouldn't consider Giant, Santa Cruz, etc.

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