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    Tall guy...Seeks higher handlebars on next bike?

    First, pardon if my posting etiquette is not all that great, I don't post very often.

    I have a 37" inseam. I am 6'5" and this time of year can hit the 200lb. mark to qualify as a "Clyde". So I posted this same question on the "Clydesdale" board. From what I read several "tall" guys have found their way to the 29er world, so I am posting here as well for 29er frame/bike suggestions.

    I know you are going to ask about my riding style. Just think of my riding style like this, "He rides XC and can occasionally get a little aggressive." I really don't have strong feelings toward FS, HT, or even Rigid, or 29er, or gears or SS for that matter. I just want a good fit and hope I can get this from a "factory" bike. I am tired of leaning down to my bars on the typical 21" frames that I have been buying.

    My question is has to do with handlebar height in relation to seat height. Are there any frames on the market that will allow me to run my saddle at 83cm from the bb and then get my handle bars within an inch or two lower than the seat without having to resort to steep stem angles and steerer tube extensions and stacks of spacers?

    If you suggest a KM, is the head tube high enough on a 22" to reach this objective?

    Thanks in advance,
    Ray

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    Part of your problem is taking a frame that fits poorly to start with, then adding various gibblets to try and make it fit.
    But, since you are committed to this ill-fitting route, here are some options...

    1. leave the fork steerer tube extra long. add spacers under your stem, this adds extra height to the level of the bars.
    2. use a high rise stem aka 15 degrees
    3. use Azonic Doublewall 2.5" riser bars

    I'm 6'6 and I'm able to get those bars right where I want them, about level w/ the saddle. I'm "only" using 3 headset spacers, a 15 degree stem, and 1.5" carbon risers.
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    In the 29", so far, there are not so many riders with a preference for high bars. Thus, the KM actually has a pretty short (105mm) headtube. In terms of handlebar height, a Nishiki 24" would be great (~160mm headtube), but you'd have to use a drop bar, and ride it as a cyclo-cross bike because of the short top tube.
    I'm 6'4" with a 39" inseam, and I am known to use negative rise stems at times.

    Everyone's different. The KM is a great bike for guys your size for your type of riding, but the bars won't end up really high unless you use a nice riser bar and one or 2 spacers. Ask around on here, lots of XL's riding around. Good chance that in trade for a ride and cold one, you can see if the thing will work for you.

    Good luck!
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    These bars are at the saddle. It feels and handles great.


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    Just go Custom

    If you haven't ridden a 29er at your height, when you do you will never go back. In my opinion I would just spend the extra 250 - 300 on the frame and go custom. I am sure that any custom builder will put a longer head tube on the frame for you and with you inseam stand-over will not be an issue. If you want an FS, go to titus, or viscious cycles. Viscious is now building a steel version of the Racer-X, less expensive and you can still do custom geometry.

    I personally own to 29er's one singled one geared. I have a serious amount of spacer's on both for stack height. The KM in a 22 will still have to have quite a few spacer's to make it work, but you could do it.

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    Looks like you need to get familiar with this

    http://www.bikeforest.com/CAD/bikeCAD.html

    Seek out the geometry specs of your stock frame and input the numbers. See what you come up with.

    Also check out the Demo Thread and see if there is someone near you with a bike in your size you can try out.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...highlight=Demo

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    big headtube

    If you want to save $$$ and have a bunch of spacers, do the monkey dance, if you hate spacers go custom. Here is an example of a HUGE headtube.



    I'm 6'3 35" inseam and hated spacers as well. Ended up with a 7 inch headtube.

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    jl, This is what I am talking about.

    jl, This is what I am talking about.

    I think the bike the jl has picutred is what I am looking for.

    Can you give me just a few details about the frame such as make, model, size?

    Thanks,
    Ray

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    Fattirewilly, thanks for the great links.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fattirewilly
    Looks like you need to get familiar with this

    http://www.bikeforest.com/CAD/bikeCAD.html

    This link is sweet. I am having fun right now. Need to be able to change head tube size though. I'll figure it out in a minute I'm sure.

    Also check out the Demo Thread and see if there is someone near you with a bike in your size you can try out.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...highlight=Demo
    Thanks for the thread. I am in Mississippi. So, no one on that board with an XL lives very close. I did look though. I guess it really is time to move.

    Thanks,
    Ray

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    There's loads of XL bikes out there. Open a thread " XL bike in Mississippi, and the change to get a test ride gets much better.
    JL's full-suspension is the Lenz Leviathan, www.lenzsport.com , Padre has an XXL on order that's going to be, well, big.
    Putting in a 100mm fork will always help raise the bars about 0.6". Also nice for those more agressive rides.

    Playing around with BikeCAD is a great armchair way to get to understand sizing matters, though, I do everything (I can) with that. There's also Clary's bike comparator Excel program, google and searches on here will turn it up. Works differently, but makes visual overlay pictures of your present 26" ride and a future 29".
    Klok - XC - Skate - Ski

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    XL monkey specs



    Here is a pic of my XL monkey with the top of saddle at 83cm form the bb, saddle is 109.5cm from ground, center of grip is 105cm from ground, center of stem to center of saddle is 76cm. I have about 2cm of spacers and a 120x15 stem. The pic looks a bit distorted. I am 6'5", enjoy walks on the beach holding....... sorry.
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    Thanks for the pic

    Thanks for the pic.

    I have had a hard time finding just such a picture of a XL KM.

    Your description tells me exactly what I was wanting to know about the bike.

    I am going to put it on my short list of potentials.

    Thanks,
    Ray

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    If you don't mind spending a few hundred extra, a custom frame could be built around a 100mm fork, bringing the front even more up even before the headtube is "lengthened". I bet a 100mm fork (any Reba can be set to 100mm, White Brothers sells forks either 80 or 100) plus a modest 5" of 6" headtube and a friendly riser bar would already do the trick for you. Don't forget that any mm in the BB adds the same in spacers. The 2005 Fisher have 50mm BB drop over Surly's 68, so you'd need 18mm more spacers for their bike already, as headtube are identical at 105mm.

    I found the Nishiki 29/24" drawing, the headtube is integrated style, but 180mm of it. BikeCad helped me figure out the eff TT must be 620mm only, so you'd still be somewhat cramped.
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