Stupid is as stupid does!

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  • 11-17-2012
    SummitSurfer
    Stupid is as stupid does!
    I feel a little Foresty Gumpish asking this.....but whats all the hype about 12X142 rear? My bike has it, but ppl look at my bike and say "oh nice a 12X142 rear. At the risk of sounding stupid....why is this good or bad? Thanks ha ha Gump.
  • 11-17-2012
    TR
    It is the latest greatest marketing hype.
  • 11-17-2012
    IP_Ale
  • 11-17-2012
    eurospek
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TR View Post
    It is the latest greatest marketing hype.

    I'm waiting for a Kashima 142x12 rear end.
  • 11-17-2012
    Bike Whisperer
    Through axles make sense, especially on full suspension. But there was already 135mm x 12mm (not to mention 135mm x 10mm through bolt) so it seems silly to once again create a new "standard". I'm not buying the convenience BS either.

    For hardtails is seem completely silly.
  • 11-17-2012
    Rev. 14
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    I'm waiting for a Kashima 142x12 rear end.

    Ha Ha, I love it! :thumbsup:
  • 11-17-2012
    dwnhlldav
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    Through axles make sense, especially on full suspension. But there was already 135mm x 12mm (not to mention 135mm x 10mm through bolt) so it seems silly to once again create a new "standard". I'm not buying the convenience BS either.

    For hardtails is seem completely silly.

    In the old days, the hub flanges were further apart. By reducing the angle of the spokes in relation to the rim (or increasing it depending on your perspective) you end up with a stronger wheel. Then we started adding more gears and had to move the drive side flange in. Then we added disc brake rotors and moved the non-drive flange in. Both of these things made wheels that weren't as strong. The 142mm rear end allows the flanges to be moved out and allows you to build a stronger wheel*. So, even though much of the hype doesn't make sense on a hard tail, I'll take the stronger wheels.

    I see a ridiculous number of bikes that aren't shifting well or have rubbing brakes because people can't get a wheel in a standard drop out straight. The thru axle takes care of that issue. I don't find the system any more or less convenient for myself.

    *Of course if you have convertible hubs then the flanges aren't spaced out and my argument is not valid.
  • 11-17-2012
    TR
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dwnhlldav View Post
    In the old days, the hub flanges were further apart. By reducing the angle of the spokes in relation to the rim (or increasing it depending on your perspective) you end up with a stronger wheel. Then we started adding more gears and had to move the drive side flange in. Then we added disc brake rotors and moved the non-drive flange in. Both of these things made wheels that weren't as strong. The 142mm rear end allows the flanges to be moved out and allows you to build a stronger wheel*.

    Sounds good in theory but:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pinkbike story from above
    Wheel dish remains the same as a 135 mm quick release wheel

  • 11-17-2012
    SummitSurfer
    Wow...great video. Well that explains it...ha ha
    Thanks
  • 11-17-2012
    dwnhlldav
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Sounds good in theory but:

    Yeah, its was theory in my head.

    Guess I should have read the article.
  • 11-17-2012
    SoCalMXrider
    haha awesome :P