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    Stache 5 vs 7 2019

    Looking for my first real quality all around bike.I am a 42 year old beginner though. 650 doller difference
    Last edited by quinton; 09-08-2018 at 11:56 AM.

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    Specifications
    Frameset

    Frame
    Alpha Platinum Aluminum, Boost148, Midstay, tapered head tube, internal derailleur & dropper post routing, Stranglehold dropouts, G2 Geometry
    Front suspension
    RockShox Yari RL, DebonAir, Motion Control damper, tapered steerer, Boost110, G2 Geometry w/51mm offset, 120mm travel
    Wheels

    Front hub
    Bontrager sealed bearing, alloy axle, Boost110
    Rear hub
    Bontrager sealed bearing, Boost148
    Rims
    SUN Ringle Duroc 50 SL 28-hole, tubeless strips and valves included
    Tires
    Bontrager XR2 Team Issue, Tubeless Ready, 120 tpi, aramid bead, 29x3.00˝
    Drivetrain

    Shifters
    SRAM NX Eagle, 12 speed
    Rear derailleur
    SRAM NX Eagle, Type 3 Roller Bearing Clutch
    Crank
    Truvativ Descendant 7k Eagle Dub, 30T Direct Mount
    Bottom bracket
    DUB PF92
    Cassette
    SRAM XG-1230 Eagle, 11-50, 12 speed
    Chain
    SRAM NX Eagle
    Pedals
    Not included
    Components

    Saddle
    Bontrager Arvada, hollow chromoly rails
    Seatpost
    Dropper post, 31.6mm, internal routing
    Handlebar
    Bontrager Line, 35mm, 15mm rise, 750mm width
    Grips
    Bontrager XR Trail Comp, nylon lock-on
    Stem
    Bontrager Line, 35mm clamp, 0 degree
    Headset
    FSA IS-2, 1-1/8˝ top, 1.5˝ bottom
    Brakeset
    Shimano MT500 hydraulic disc
    Weight

    Weight
    17.5˝ - 13.15 kg / 29 lbs (with tubes)
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    Frame
    Alpha Platinum Aluminum, Boost148, Midstay, tapered head tube, internal derailleur & dropper post routing, Stranglehold dropouts, G2 Geometry
    Front suspension
    Manitou Machete 32 Comp, air spring, ABS damper, lockout, tapered steerer, Boost110, G2 Geometry w/51mm offset, 120mm travel
    Wheels

    Front hub
    Bontrager alloy, Boost110
    Rear hub
    Bontrager alloy, Boost148
    Rims
    SUN Ringle Duroc 50 SL 28-hole, tubeless strips and valves included
    Tires
    Bontrager XR2 Team Issue, Tubeless Ready, 120 tpi, aramid bead, 29x3.00˝
    Drivetrain

    Shifters
    Shimano Deore M6000, 10 speed
    Rear derailleur
    Shimano Deore M6000, Shadow Plus
    Crank
    FSA Gamma Pro, 28T
    Bottom bracket
    PF92
    Cassette
    Shimano HG50, 11-42, 10 speed
    Chain
    KMC X10
    Pedals
    Not included
    Components

    Saddle
    Bontrager Arvada
    Seatpost
    Dropper post, 31.6mm, internal routing
    Handlebar
    Bontrager alloy, 31.8mm, 15mm rise, 750mm width
    Grips
    Bontrager XR Trail Comp, nylon lock-on
    Stem
    Bontrager Rhythm Comp, 31.8mm clamp, 0 degree
    Headset
    FSA IS-2, 1-1/8˝ top, 1.5˝ bottom
    Brakeset
    Shimano MT200 hydraulic disc
    Weight

    Weight
    17.5˝ - 13.38 kg / 29.5 lbs

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    I'd go with the 5 and down the line spend the extra on a Mattoc Pro fork from bikecomponents.de. . . .https://www.bike-components.de/en/Ma...-Model-p60468/
    Review- https://nsmb.com/articles/manitou-mattoc-pro-fork/

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    As an owner of a 2018 7 I would get the 7 over the 5. The Yari fork is a very capable fork and with the 3.0 tires running a the proper pressures (for me at 245#, 13f/16.25r) it has plenty of small bump compliance. It also has the new DebonAir spring which is an improvement over the 2018 model.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v2pRj_-8_Q

    If you feel you need to upgrade the fork you can as it has the same chassis as the Lyrik and all the upgrades for it work on the Yari. I haven't felt the need to yet. I would also rather have the 12 speed over the 10 speed drivetrain. I also believe the hubs are different on the two models, at least they were in 2018. The 7 has cartridge bearings and the 5 has cone bearings. You also get better brakes on the 7 as well.
    I do however prefer the color on the 5 which is the same as my 2018 7, Matte dnister black over the matte cobra blood but that is just a side note. Either bike will be an awesome choice as it is a quite capable bike.
    Change begins by doing something different.

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    I bought a 2018 Stache 5. Happy with the bike, but in hindsight I wish I'd gone with the 7. I'm going to end up upgrading hubs, fork, crank, switching to 11 or 12 speed. This wouldn't be necessary if I'd bought the 7. Would have saved me some cash in the long run. If you can swing it, get the 7.
    "Caught my first tube this morning....sir!"

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    Im just having a hard time with the color or the 7,i would like to see one in person.
    Also is buying new the best decision,my sons 14 so i can always hand it down.

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    Look for used on Pinkbike Buy/Sell. Ship it Bike Flights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinton View Post
    Im just having a hard time with the color or the 7,i would like to see one in person.
    Also is buying new the best decision,my sons 14 so i can always hand it down.
    Just remember, if you buy used you won't have the warranty.
    "Caught my first tube this morning....sir!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by go-pirates View Post
    Just remember, if you buy used you won't have the warranty.
    And you don't know how well someone maintained the bike. The fork may have never had the lowers serviced, chain wasn't replaced at .5% stretch and just ridden into the ground, so the whole drivetrain must be replaced. I could go on and on but you get my point. I would not buy used unless I was getting at least 50-60% off new.

    The color doesn't matter that much anyway as it gets dirty pretty quickly anyhow.
    Change begins by doing something different.

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    The 12 speed would be worth a substantial premium to me.

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    Any tips on getting price down on a new bike,being new i dont know how much they will budge.I also plan to but my wife a new lower end bike(marlin etc)

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    Hundred percent if you can swing it go with the 7. It's a hell of a lot of money into the 5 to make it anywhere near as good as the 7. Not saying that the five isn't an amazing bike just way more bang for your buck when you buy the 7! Will be ordering one in February the 7. Stache 7 had me at 35 mm stanchions LOL......

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinton View Post
    Any tips on getting price down on a new bike,being new i dont know how much they will budge.I also plan to but my wife a new lower end bike(marlin etc)
    Yeah, wait until December or January. They'll practically be begging for you to take it.

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