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    SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29

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    Made for steep ups and downs. 130 rear travel. 27.5+ (2.8) compatibility. WANT!
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    looks very nice.
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    Interesting. One of their other frames appears to have a lot of anti-squat, well over 100%, possibly to the point of being harsh under power/over bumps. Would be interesting to see how it works out.
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    I demoed it again this week with a Fox 36 set at 140. I am sold. Its the first bike I have ridden that I don't want to F with the shock either going up or down. Going with the 36 upgrade option obviously on the 5 star build. We're working on figuring out a wider wheel set for me since this will be replacing my 27.5 long travel enduro rig. I'm sure being local helps but I have never dealt with a more personalized and accommodating company.
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    I need to find the time to drive by and ride one. I was really impressed with the way the Rollik climbed when I rode that bike last summer.


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    Im tempted to order one but with no way of demoing one im reluctant. Waiting to hear more about other peoples experiences

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    Over $6K, F*ck off.

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    Not sure why all of the reactions to the price. Right there with every other bike and build. Less than Yeti.

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    SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29

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    Price is not much different from other premium brands. Price for frame is 3200, not too different from others. Big question is do you want to be an early adopter or not?

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    Short reach/TT on the medium, and too much seat tube/stack on the large. Old geometry kills this one for me. Too bad, because the suspension design is intriguing.
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    SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29

    I'm 5'11" and rode the Rollik and felt like the fit was great. Climbed like a goat. I'm not sure how the geo numbers vary between those two Spot bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    Short reach/TT on the medium, and too much seat tube/stack on the large. Old geometry kills this one for me. Too bad, because the suspension design is intriguing.
    Old geometry? An almost 76* eSTA is old geometry? Can you cite another bike w/ that number? And keep in mind 66.7* HTA is w/ a 34 at 130, IIRC. A 36 at 140...?...66*?

    Not being snarky, I'm shopping for a lighter duty trail bike than a heavier hitting built Hightower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Old geometry? An almost 76* eSTA is old geometry? Can you cite another bike w/ that number? And keep in mind 66.7* HTA is w/ a 34 at 130, IIRC. A 36 at 140...?...66*?

    Not being snarky, I'm shopping for a lighter duty trail bike than a heavier hitting built Hightower.
    Exactly what i was thinking

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Pau11y again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Old geometry? An almost 76* eSTA is old geometry? Can you cite another bike w/ that number? And keep in mind 66.7* HTA is w/ a 34 at 130, IIRC. A 36 at 140...?...66*?

    Not being snarky, I'm shopping for a lighter duty trail bike than a heavier hitting built Hightower.
    Yes, the Pole Evolink 140 or 110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Yes, the Pole Evolink 140 or 110
    Okay, this bike the epitome of, "if a little is good, let's go nuts!" ~78* STA and 64* HTA?
    So, when I threw a leg over the Mayhem, at 76* STA my knee is juuuuust at the right position over the pedal axle. Any steeper and I'd be over and ahead of the axle.

    And the weight seems reason able for an aluminum at ~30lbs for a 29er. Thus, how's the flex? The Canfield Bros Riot is pretty solid, but it's also quite portly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Okay, this bike the epitome of, "if a little is good, let's go nuts!" ~78* STA and 64* HTA?
    So, when I threw a leg over the Mayhem, at 76* STA my knee is juuuuust at the right position over the pedal axle. Any steeper and I'd be over and ahead of the axle.

    And the weight seems reason able for an aluminum at ~30lbs for a 29er. Thus, how's the flex? The Canfield Bros Riot is pretty solid, but it's also quite portly.
    I built mine at 27 lbs.

    If I add a dropper it's 28 and change. Very competitive.

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    Any ride reports?

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    The Mayhem has a 73.9 STA, which is OK, but a 585mm TT, and 429 reach in medium. 585mm is from the 90's for medium, and the larges seat tube is 483mm, which is too long for me to size up. I want more reach than that in a medium.

    Unlike almost everyone else, I have actually owned a forward geometry bike, a Mondraker Vantage. My medium had a 635mm TT, 461mm reach, 420mm seat tube, 74 STA, 67 HTA, and came with a 30mm stem. This is a HT, so there is no rear sag to slack the STA. When your climbing on a FS, the rear sags, while the fork does not. The Vantage felt perfectly normal.
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    It's funny. Everyone that has ridden a long bike (that I can tell from reading these posts) has nothing but good things to say about them, myself included.

    I'm still searching for the one person that really hated them.

    The only negative I have ever read is that people prefer "throwing" around the smaller bikes, but they still enjoyed riding the longer ones.

    I would never go back to purchasing a shorter bike, or one with a slacker seat angle.
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    All depends on what you call "long" relative to the person Me, myself, I am not short, just over 6'2" and unless I was ripping only downs, then maybe riding a bike with a 500mm reach and 30mm stem might be good, but for me, for a nice bike that will pedal all around, up, down, rolling, nicely, I quite like my 478mm Reach with 50mm stem and 800mm bar. Can't stretch out any further, just not that flexible as I used to be and it's as nimble as I want in slow stuff and stable as hell on fast stuff without me needing to do any funky weight shifting to keep the front weighted. As to that crazy STA and HTA, yeah, no, not for me.

    I think a lot do it for the sake of the cool factor and it's trendiness.

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    It's funny. Everyone that has ridden a long bike (that I can tell from reading these posts) has nothing but good things to say about them, myself included. I'm still searching for the one person that really hated them.

    The only negative I have ever read is that people prefer "throwing" around the smaller bikes, but they still enjoyed riding the longer ones.

    I would never go back to purchasing a shorter bike, or one with a slacker seat angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    ... As to that crazy STA and HTA, yeah, no, not for me.

    I think a lot do it for the sake of the cool factor and it's trendiness.
    Cool factor? Trendiness? Those aren't my motivators. I do it for places like Moab and for my home turf with ~8 mile, 4000' loss, high speed descents. But you're stuck on some island, aren't you LyNx?
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    I am on an island, yup, no 8 mile descents, but when I was in CO last year, I never felt or wanted for any of that stuff on the long descents, not once and I was on my 450mm Reach/70mm stem/785mm bar bike. But then again, my bike also only had 105mm of rear travel/130mm front, I like to have to actually ride my bikes, feel the trail, not just sit ontop of some machine gaining top speed Also my 24-36 low gear was plenty easy enough for me on those super long climbs at 9k+ altitude I'm not accustomed to, so you know, don't think we're very similar

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    Cool factor? Trendiness? Those aren't my motivators. I do it for places like Moab and for my home turf with ~8 mile, 4000' loss, high speed descents. But you're stuck on some island, aren't you LyNx?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    All depends on what you call "long" relative to the person Me, myself, I am not short, just over 6'2" and unless I was ripping only downs, then maybe riding a bike with a 500mm reach and 30mm stem might be good, but for me, for a nice bike that will pedal all around, up, down, rolling, nicely, I quite like my 478mm Reach with 50mm stem and 800mm bar. Can't stretch out any further, just not that flexible as I used to be and it's as nimble as I want in slow stuff and stable as hell on fast stuff without me needing to do any funky weight shifting to keep the front weighted. As to that crazy STA and HTA, yeah, no, not for me.

    I think a lot do it for the sake of the cool factor and it's trendiness.
    First off, I could care less about "cool factor".

    The thing is, these angles do not stretch you out anymore than any other bike due to the steep seat angle.

    I'm 5' 9", and 46 years old. Trust me, I need all the comfort I can get.

    My Pole is a medium with 480 mm reach and a 50 mm stem.

    I feel more stretched out on my Large Norco Revolver with a 460 mm reach and a 40 mm stem.

    I also feel more comfortable on the long climbs on the Pole. Look at my ride review in the 29er Forum. I'm only 2 minutes slower on the Pole than the Norco over 14 miles. I attribute that to the 5 pound difference in bike weight. The Pole is by no means a XC race bike, but it is an all day, comfortable trail bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    ... so you know, don't think we're very similar
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    You can like what you want all you like and you may not be riding that geo because of it's "cool" factor, but lots jump on such band wagons all the time and if it were really so fantastic, why haven't all the other manufacturers jumped on board already

    As to age, I'm 47 going on 48, and I too have beat this body up pretty good, but good geo takes good care of me and some suspension when speeds get high. You obviously don't give yourself enough credit for how flexible you are, because you're 5"> shorter than me and saying you can ride the same cockpit setup I do Just because you're comfortable with that stupid steep STA, does not mean everyone will be, I run my saddle so my knee is "X" distance behind the BB, with that angle I'd need a 2" offset post, minimum.

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    First off, I could care less about "cool factor". The thing is, these angles do not stretch you out anymore than any other bike due to the steep seat angle. I'm 5' 9", and 46 years old. Trust me, I need all the comfort I can get........ The Pole is by no means a XC race bike, but it is an all day, comfortable trail bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    You can like what you want all you like and you may not be riding that geo because of it's "cool" factor, but lots jump on such band wagons all the time and if it were really so fantastic, why haven't all the other manufacturers jumped on board already

    As to age, I'm 47 going on 48, and I too have beat this body up pretty good, but good geo takes good care of me and some suspension when speeds get high. You obviously don't give yourself enough credit for how flexible you are, because you're 5"> shorter than me and saying you can ride the same cockpit setup I do Just because you're comfortable with that stupid steep STA, does not mean everyone will be, I run my saddle so my knee is "X" distance behind the BB, with that angle I'd need a 2" offset post, minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Being open to Change and Experimentation is hard. Harder for some obviously.
    This is VERY true!
    I'm the same age as LyNx, and I'm chompin' at the bit looking forward to a 29er DH bike, and I have a buddy who won't even leave a 26" trail bike, at the ripe ol' age of 37! HAH!

    So, about the Pole...aluminum bikes that light...how's the flex? I didn't see anyone addressing that...or maybe it's old age and I just can't see! HAH!

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    Can't believe that we do t have a detailed ride report yet

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    If by that you mean I don't try new stuff, Whatever, guess I didn't try the Phantom first with a straight post and find it sucked and hence moved to a setback post because I have long legs, like to be behind the BB by about 2cm and nothing anyone tells me is going to change what feels good to me or hat I like. As to the Reach, I can only bend over so far, with even a 480mm reach and the saddle where I like it relative to the BB, I would need a 40mm stem and for a trail bike, if I went according to the sizing that the manufacturer states, they'd have me on a 500mm> Reach and that would mean I'd need to run a zero stem about and that's just plain insane.

    But I guess some people can't handle other people having a different opinion or philosophy to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    This is VERY true!
    I'm the same age as LyNx, and I'm chompin' at the bit looking forward to a 29er DH bike, and I have a buddy who won't even leave a 26" trail bike, at the ripe ol' age of 37! HAH!

    So, about the Pole...aluminum bikes that light...how's the flex? I didn't see anyone addressing that...or maybe it's old age and I just can't see! HAH!
    Haven't noticed any flex on the bike.

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    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/pole-e...40-review.html

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    WHY are we arguing this here? I want to know about the Mayhem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    WHY are we arguing this here? I want to know about the Mayhem.
    Why? Because the Mayhem has old school geometry from the 90s.

    It's irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Why do you care? Just move on and don't worry about it.

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    Why do you care that I care. Please move on yourself, and dont forget to neg rep me because you are so butt hurt.

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    I rode my Mayhem in the Grand Junction off road last weekend. I have never had so much fun. It is great never having to lock out the rear shock like every other bike I have owned. Im running a MRP Ribbon on front set at 140. The bike handled everything on this course with no issues. I was worried about the steep seat tube when I rode the demo but after a few minutes I was sold. I am 5'9" on medium frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
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    But I guess some people can't handle other people having a different opinion or philosophy to them
    I looked "irony" up in the online dictionary. Found a link to this statement for the example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryeti View Post
    I rode my Mayhem in the Grand Junction off road last weekend. I have never had so much fun. It is great never having to lock out the rear shock like every other bike I have owned. Im running a MRP Ribbon on front set at 140. The bike handled everything on this course with no issues. I was worried about the steep seat tube when I rode the demo but after a few minutes I was sold. I am 5'9" on medium frame.
    Howd you like it with the ribbon at 140? Did you tey 130 or 150mm?

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    Mine should arrive in a few weeks.

    A friend of mine road the Mayhem in Colorado at the end of April. He is a very accomplished Rider who has worked for many bike manufacturers in the country. His response to me was the bike is a 9 out of 10. He said never before had he gotten on a mountain bike and felt like it was his so quickly. As well he said it was the most small bump compliant bike he has ever ridden.

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    The demo I rode had a Fox 34 set at 130 and I felt like it was maybe not enough fork for my bad riding style in the rocks. The Ribbon at 140 is primo for me. I did not have any problems climbing up the steeps at 140. I have not tried it at 150 yet however I plan to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gryeti View Post
    I rode my Mayhem in the Grand Junction off road last weekend. I have never had so much fun. It is great never having to lock out the rear shock like every other bike I have owned. Im running a MRP Ribbon on front set at 140. The bike handled everything on this course with no issues. I was worried about the steep seat tube when I rode the demo but after a few minutes I was sold. I am 5'9" on medium frame.
    What length stem and bars do you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerort View Post
    Why do you care that I care. Please move on yourself, and dont forget to neg rep me because you are so butt hurt.
    Well, speaking from the perspective of a person shopping for a new bike, and gauging from how YOU have been spouting off as an advocate for Pole bikes, I will NEVER buy a Pole. Congrats, you just lost a start-up a sale. While one person might be insignificant, how many do you think saw your verbal diarrhea and will do the same as myself and walk away from Pole, because of YOU? Good job! I'm sure Pole appreciates your attitude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bickle View Post
    What length stem and bars do you have?
    I am running 760 bars w/ a 50mm stem.

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    Anxious to hear more reports. Considering replacing my mojo3 with a mayhem but not ready to commit yet

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    Really, I didn't get a royalty cheque And for the record, I have no problem with anyone else having a different opinion or liking riding something different than me, but when they spout it off like it's the only way and I MUST comply or be shunned, that I don't take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Anxious to hear more reports. Considering replacing my mojo3 with a mayhem but not ready to commit yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    I love my M3 but am getting a Mayhem too.

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    Any reason why? Or how do you see the mayhem being different than the M3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Any reason why? Or how do you see the mayhem being different than the M3?

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    My reason is counter to what you may expect. I am 5-2. The M3, even with a 30mm stem is slightly long in the cabin. I had a 2016 Trek Fuel EX 9.9 which I found an excellent fit. It's cabin was shorter than M3 and more similar to Mayhem. Thus one reason is to the probable fit. The other is I am intrigued by the suspension. Plus I like new exciting game stuff.

    However the M3 is awesome. After dialing in the suspension via Shockwiz and getting tires right (Rocket Ron 2.8 and 2.6 with 13.5f and 14.5 rear), it has performed flawlessly in all situations. Will the Mayhem fit better and perform as well or better? Not sure, but I want to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    My reason is counter to what you may expect. I am 5-2. The M3, even with a 30mm stem is slightly long in the cabin. I had a 2016 Trek Fuel EX 9.9 which I found an excellent fit. It's cabin was shorter than M3 and more similar to Mayhem. Thus one reason is to the probable fit. The other is I am intrigued by the suspension. Plus I like new exciting game stuff.

    However the M3 is awesome. After dialing in the suspension via Shockwiz and getting tires right (Rocket Ron 2.8 and 2.6 with 13.5f and 14.5 rear), it has performed flawlessly in all situations. Will the Mayhem fit better and perform as well or better? Not sure, but I want to try.

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    Interesting.

    Im 5'6" and have fit issues with the M3 (size med) as well. I use a 40mm stem and 40mm riser and find the front end to be real low. Im not sure if its the bike but i have a much harder time wheeling and manualing the M3 vs other bikes (my sb95 for instance). Im planning on putting a Mrp ribbon on it which will raise the front 7mm. I may try setring the fork to 150mm as well.

    Let me know when youve spent time on the Mayhem and how you find it compares to the M3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Interesting.

    Im 5'6" and have fit issues with the M3 (size med) as well. I use a 40mm stem and 40mm riser and find the front end to be real low. Im not sure if its the bike but i have a much harder time wheeling and manualing the M3 vs other bikes (my sb95 for instance). Im planning on putting a Mrp ribbon on it which will raise the front 7mm. I may try setring the fork to 150mm as well.

    Let me know when youve spent time on the Mayhem and how you find it compares to the M3.

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    I am setting up as a 27.5+. The stock builds use a Fox 34 130mm 29er fork. When setup as 27.5+ they recommend a lower headset spacer. So I just got a 140mm 29er fork. If I use 29 wheels, it will just be a little more aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    I am setting up as a 27.5+. The stock builds use a Fox 34 130mm 29er fork. When setup as 27.5+ they recommend a lower headset spacer. So I just got a 140mm 29er fork. If I use 29 wheels, it will just be a little more aggressive.

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    I ran mine today with 27.5+ and no headset spacer. 140mm fork. I had a couple pedal strikes but nothing bad at all for the rocky terrain I was riding. I think you will like it very much. The bike rides very well with both wheel sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gryeti View Post
    I ran mine today with 27.5+ and no headset spacer. 140mm fork. I had a couple pedal strikes but nothing bad at all for the rocky terrain I was riding. I think you will like it very much. The bike rides very well with both wheel sizes.
    By my calculations, BB height will be higher than my M3. I run 170mm cranks too.

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    Well, speaking from the perspective of a person shopping for a new bike, and gauging from how YOU have been spouting off as an advocate for Pole bikes, I will NEVER buy a Pole. Congrats, you just lost a start-up a sale. While one person might be insignificant, how many do you think saw your verbal diarrhea and will do the same as myself and walk away from Pole, because of YOU? Good job! I'm sure Pole appreciates your attitude!
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    You should layoff the long bike koolaid, try and wean yourself off slowly for best results. Your build on that bike is uber light for 9lb frame doubt 3lbs at the frame is gonna make that much diff, so maybe the 2 min diff was due to the mini DH bike geometry? That frame is gravity oriented plain and simple not sure why folks want to make it into something it's not, the geometry is not *right* while somehow the Mayhem's geo(which sounds perfect btw) is *wrong*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tickle View Post
    You should layoff the long bike koolaid, try and wean yourself off slowly for best results. Your build on that bike is uber light for 9lb frame doubt 3lbs at the frame is gonna make that much diff, so maybe the 2 min diff was due to the mini DH bike geometry? That frame is gravity oriented plain and simple not sure why folks want to make it into something it's not, the geometry is not *right* while somehow the Mayhem's geo(which sounds perfect btw) is *wrong*.
    English please.

    You might want to go back to school and learn how to write so people can understand you.

    Why would I need to build it burly for XC trails? Who cares how light it is. All the parts on it are legit (Industry Nine, Niner, Race Face, Sram). What are you jealous?

    Even MTBR review of the Mayhem stated the cockpit on the Rollik (that was ridden for comparison purposes) felt tight. And that the Mayhem felt similar. Don't shoot the messenger.

    The Mayhem might be a great bike, but the geometry is nothing new. Maybe some people like short bikes. I prefer longer ones.

    And, BTW, my Evolink is the 110 version, not the 140. Clearly it is not made for DH.

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    Guess my koolaid comment hit a nerve, dude my English was fine. If you want to pedal around a heavy frame with DH geometry go for it not jealous of your bike

    The Mayhem seems more new school hardly old school or irrelevant tho, your just wrong there.

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    Rollik owner here gonna chime in a wee bit about the "stupid" STA... for a ling reach number, the STA does position you different - more centered and a bit closer - don't know I'd call it tight???

    The geo works plain and simple - but let's all agree - diff strokes for diff folks. The Rollick is far and away the best bike ive ridden and owned - and I demoed a LOT of the leading - favorite all mt, trail, enduro sleds - want a do it all balanced bike that climbs as good as any 140 rr travel bike should, can dance and be nimble or plow going down? yep - it works just that way - however you really want to ride it.

    The Mayhem looks to be pretty sick and the Spot guys are absolute rippers on both of these bikes. Haven't ridden a Mayhem - but if anything like the Rollick - theres likely not a chink in the armor.

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    I have a new Mayhem and have been waiting to chime in until I have put in some solid rides on it.

    Background - I have a serious bike problem - and in the past few years have owned - S-works 29er Stumpy, Tallboy, Ibis and a SPOT Rollik. I bought the Rollik because I demoed it and the position was just so natural and it climbed better than any other bike I had been on before. The best part is with the Living Link you can leave the suspension full open, you never have to switch it around for climbing descending.

    The Mayhem has a very similar feel to the Rollik. Mine is setup pretty close to stock with 130 front/rear. It feels a lot more than 130 on the way down. It also has the same great position where you feel like you are in the cockpit. Like Kamper11 said above - "more centered"

    I love this bike and am done buying new bikes for a while. Do yourself a favor and find one to demo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chpfly View Post
    I have a new Mayhem and have been waiting to chime in until I have put in some solid rides on it.

    Background - I have a serious bike problem - and in the past few years have owned - S-works 29er Stumpy, Tallboy, Ibis and a SPOT Rollik. I bought the Rollik because I demoed it and the position was just so natural and it climbed better than any other bike I had been on before. The best part is with the Living Link you can leave the suspension full open, you never have to switch it around for climbing descending.

    The Mayhem has a very similar feel to the Rollik. Mine is setup pretty close to stock with 130 front/rear. It feels a lot more than 130 on the way down. It also has the same great position where you feel like you are in the cockpit. Like Kamper11 said above - "more centered"

    I love this bike and am done buying new bikes for a while. Do yourself a favor and find one to demo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chpfly View Post
    I have a new Mayhem and have been waiting to chime in until I have put in some solid rides on it.

    Background - I have a serious bike problem - and in the past few years have owned - S-works 29er Stumpy, Tallboy, Ibis and a SPOT Rollik. I bought the Rollik because I demoed it and the position was just so natural and it climbed better than any other bike I had been on before. The best part is with the Living Link you can leave the suspension full open, you never have to switch it around for climbing descending.

    The Mayhem has a very similar feel to the Rollik. Mine is setup pretty close to stock with 130 front/rear. It feels a lot more than 130 on the way down. It also has the same great position where you feel like you are in the cockpit. Like Kamper11 said above - "more centered"

    I love this bike and am done buying new bikes for a while. Do yourself a favor and find one to demo.
    What wheels tires is yours setup with?
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    OHHHHH MANNNNN - now i feel truly compelled to go and demo the Mayhem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    I demoed it again this week with a Fox 36 set at 140. I am sold. Its the first bike I have ridden that I don't want to F with the shock either going up or down. Going with the 36 upgrade option obviously on the 5 star build. We're working on figuring out a wider wheel set for me since this will be replacing my 27.5 long travel enduro rig. I'm sure being local helps but I have never dealt with a more personalized and accommodating company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    I demoed it again this week with a Fox 36 set at 140. I am sold. Its the first bike I have ridden that I don't want to F with the shock either going up or down. Going with the 36 upgrade option obviously on the 5 star build. We're working on figuring out a wider wheel set for me since this will be replacing my 27.5 long travel enduro rig. I'm sure being local helps but I have never dealt with a more personalized and accommodating company.
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    I have a 2016 fuel ex 9.9 now and love it, I'm going large Mayham at 5'10. Selling a few bikes now to make room. Can't wait !! I'm going 140 pike on the front. I always buy frame only and build exactly what I want!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I have a 2016 fuel ex 9.9 now and love it, I'm going large Mayham at 5'10. Selling a few bikes now to make room. Can't wait !! I'm going 140 pike on the front. I always buy frame only and build exactly what I want!
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    I'm a mm or two below 5-10 with about a 31" inseam and getting a large also. It's the size I demoed. I can fit a 150 dropper on it and it never felt too large on me. I'm going short stem style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    I'm a mm or two below 5-10 with about a 31" inseam and getting a large also. It's the size I demoed. I can fit a 150 dropper on it and it never felt too large on me. I'm going short stem style.
    I like bike's that are very stable at speed and I have long upper body with 31 inseam. I will run a 35mm stem with wide bars, Enve 800mm bar. It's very important for me to be able to climb out of the saddle And not be to cramped when doing so. Large will be just right! I know this bike won't be as light as my Fuel EX 9.9 at 23.96 pounds with pedals and dropper. I truly believe the key to a great bike is light wheels and lite crank. I have a tendency to break carbon frames and the guys at spot assured me the Mayham is strong in all the right areas .

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    I guess I didn't put in all my details -

    I have mine setup pretty close to stock - 6 star build in a 29.

    I am on a Large and am 6ft tall. I have a 55mm Stem and 760mm 20 mm rise bars on mine. I am currently running it with zero spacers under the stem. I run a 77cm from the center of the BB to my saddle and a 150mm dropper gives me room to move the saddle up or down from 77cm.

    I have had a few more rides on the MAYHEM and I have loaned it out twice to people - they both now own a MAYEHM, it really is that good.

    I love that you could put some light weight race tires on it and have a sweet XC setup and then change out tires and have a killer AM trail bike.

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    What wheels tires is yours setup with?
    What size frame are you on and how tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chpfly View Post
    I have had a few more rides on the MAYHEM and I have loaned it out twice to people - they both now own a MAYEHM, it really is that good.

    I love that you could put some light weight race tires on it and have a sweet XC setup and then change out tires and have a killer AM trail bike.
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    I purchased directly from the SPOT website - it was very straight forward.

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    I just ordered mine through Ethan at Maverick Suspension/Flow Zone and will be using a fox36 at140mm with an X2 on the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    I just ordered mine through Ethan at Maverick Suspension/Flow Zone and will be using a fox36 at140mm with an X2 on the rear.
    Have E do the 150 w/ the MRP volume adjust thingie which will bring it down to 140! When I visited w/ Andy at Spot, he said that's the magic setup...so supple on the small bumps because the neg-air chamber is slightly over charged!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Have E do the 150 w/ the MRP volume adjust thingie which will bring it down to 140! When I visited w/ Andy at Spot, he said that's the magic setup...so supple on the small bumps because the neg-air chamber is slightly over charged!
    Yes He mentioned that to me so I will install and try when I open the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Have E do the 150 w/ the MRP volume adjust thingie which will bring it down to 140! When I visited w/ Andy at Spot, he said that's the magic setup...so supple on the small bumps because the neg-air chamber is slightly over charged!

    I'm always the last to hear these things. What exactly is the mrp thing supposed to do? I didn't think you could improve on a 36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    I'm always the last to hear these things. What exactly is the mrp thing supposed to do? I didn't think you could improve on a 36.
    Separates positive and negative air chambers so they can be pressurized individually and ramp control instead of volume spacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    Separates positive and negative air chambers so they can be pressurized individually and ramp control instead of volume spacers.

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    Do you have the complete kit or just the FulFill. How much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chpfly View Post
    The Mayhem has a very similar feel to the Rollik.
    Can you elaborate on that a bit more? How do they compare in terms of cornering and playfulness? Does the 29" wheels add that much more "rollover" over the 27.5" (with more travel) without sacrificing anything?

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    I rode the Mayhem in a 29er yesterday at Apex here in Golden, Co. Conditions are really dry and dusty here and Apex has its share of rocks if you aren't familiar with the trail. First off the guys at Spot are really good guys and easy to talk to. I was all set to buy a Yeti 4.5 and have ridden the 4.5, 5, and 5.5, but figured I should hold off until giving the Mayhem a ride. The Mayhem is good, climbs really well and was a fun ride. The bike I rode was a large 5 star stock build. I'm 5'11" 32" inseam. The bike fit feels a little different then some of the other bikes I've ridden, but after a couple minutes in the saddle it felt normal and I never thought about it again. The spot is stable at speed and rolls over stuff like you would expect a modern 29er. I am not the best at manualling a bike but the Mayhem is easy enough to lift the front tire during drops or to help carry speed through rocky sections. I will ride the yeti 4.5 next week on the same trail to make a decision which way I'm going, which I think is a pretty strong statement on how good the Mayhem rides.


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    Picked mine up today and changed out the wheelset, stem and bars. Going for the inaugural ride at Chimpex in the morning. Hope it rides as well as it looks. Got the new graphics on the 36.


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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post



    Picked mine up today and changed out the wheelset, stem and bars. Going for the inaugural ride at Chimpex in the morning. Hope it rides as well as it looks. Got the new graphics on the 36.


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    I demoed one a couple weeks back and was blown away. Ended up selling my Rollik (already miss it) and pulled the trigger on a 6-star Mayhem with the Fox36 upgrade. I'll post up a full review once I have several rides on it. My first impression was that it reminded me of the Yeti 5.5 (demoed one last season) but the Mayhem was considerably faster on the climbs.

    If money were no object, my ideal 2-bike quiver (not including a fat bike for winter) would be a Rollik and a Mayhem.

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    She's a real beauty!! Please do post up your initial impressions - I love my Rollik - could love a Mayhem as well!

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    Picked mine up today and changed out the wheelset, stem and bars. Going for the inaugural ride at Chimpex in the morning. Hope it rides as well as it looks. Got the new graphics on the 36.


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    I'm curious how it compares to the rollik. I asked one of the spot guys which they would be riding, he said he was sticking with the rollik because it was better in the air. When I demoed the rollik last year my favorite part was how it wanted to pop off everything, super easy to get airborne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    I'm curious how it compares to the rollik. I asked one of the spot guys which they would be riding, he said he was sticking with the rollik because it was better in the air. When I demoed the rollik last year my favorite part was how it wanted to pop off everything, super easy to get airborne.
    The Mayham has designed with no front derail. option so it can take 27.5+ or wide 29er tires. The rear end of the Mayham will be stiffer thus better power transfer to rear wheel. It will be better at climbing and I think a 140mm fork is a must, my fork is at Dirt Labs now, Fox 130mm 34 but getting serviced and being upgraded to 2018 spec. Will have new 140mm air spring installed. I should have my large Mayham in a few weeks, now what color should I get!!

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    The matte hot tomato looks pretty awesome in person. That's what I went with.

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    6-star build with the Fox36 upgrade. Maiden voyage tomorrow. Stoked!
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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    I'm curious how it compares to the rollik. I asked one of the spot guys which they would be riding, he said he was sticking with the rollik because it was better in the air. When I demoed the rollik last year my favorite part was how it wanted to pop off everything, super easy to get airborne.
    I have ridden both versions of the Mayhem, at Apex, as well as the Rollik, although I can't give you a good comparison because the Rollik was ridden on a much tamer trail, Green Mountain. I think I will try to grab a Rollik next week to take to Apex to get a full comparison. I will say based on my memory I feel like the Rollik was easier to move around.

    If you are in the area give them a call they are great at letting people try their bikes, will answer all your questions and haven't tried pushing me into buying a bike. Actually Paul said since I've ridden all their bikes I should really take the Rollik back out to get a full comparison.


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    Demoed the 5 star Mayhem at Apex today, here's my thoughts:

    Compared to the Rollik it had all of the benefits and drawbacks you would expect going from 27.5 to 29 inch wheels. Up hill it pedaled awesome, thanks to that Spot special sauce they have going on out back, combined with the eagle drivetrain. I didn't feel nearly as exhausted getting to the top, although I was a little surprised I didn't have more PR's on strava going up. I wasn't really trying to break any records though. I talked about it on my rollick review, the living link suspension is the real deal, pedal bob is nonexistent but still feels awesome pointed back downhill without flipping any levers. Best suspension I've ridden. The 29inch wheels really helped roll over the rocky technical climbing sections, as you would expect.
    Going back down enchanted forest and apex trails I set several PR's on strava, which does not surprise me. The bike felt stable and just wanted to go fast. Some of the ledgy back to back drops usually make me nervous I am going to endo, but the 29inch wheels rolled right over them without flinching. The negative side is the bike takes a little more effort to get off of the ground and turn. The Mayhem wants to monster truck everything at high speed, where the Rollik wants to pop up and over everything. The Rollik is definitely more playful, the Mayhem more stable at speed and in the chunder. Part of this is probably due to the wheels, partly the longer chain stays on the Mayhem. The suspension is still awesome about giving you the support to jump, its just not as eager to do so. The mayhem feels like a bigger bike.

    Overall, they are very different beasts. I think I would buy the Rollik for it's fun factor. If I was into crushing strava times the Mayhem would be my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    Demoed the 5 star Mayhem at Apex today, here's my thoughts:

    Compared to the Rollik it had all of the benefits and drawbacks you would expect going from 27.5 to 29 inch wheels. Up hill it pedaled awesome, thanks to that Spot special sauce they have going on out back, combined with the eagle drivetrain. I didn't feel nearly as exhausted getting to the top, although I was a little surprised I didn't have more PR's on strava going up. I wasn't really trying to break any records though. I talked about it on my rollick review, the living link suspension is the real deal, pedal bob is nonexistent but still feels awesome pointed back downhill without flipping any levers. Best suspension I've ridden. The 29inch wheels really helped roll over the rocky technical climbing sections, as you would expect.
    Going back down enchanted forest and apex trails I set several PR's on strava, which does not surprise me. The bike felt stable and just wanted to go fast. Some of the ledgy back to back drops usually make me nervous I am going to endo, but the 29inch wheels rolled right over them without flinching. The negative side is the bike takes a little more effort to get off of the ground and turn. The Mayhem wants to monster truck everything at high speed, where the Rollik wants to pop up and over everything. The Rollik is definitely more playful, the Mayhem more stable at speed and in the chunder. Part of this is probably due to the wheels, partly the longer chain stays on the Mayhem. The suspension is still awesome about giving you the support to jump, its just not as eager to do so. The mayhem feels like a bigger bike.

    Overall, they are very different beasts. I think I would buy the Rollik for it's fun factor. If I was into crushing strava times the Mayhem would be my choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwthomsen View Post
    Did you pick yours up today at Spots Headquarters? Looks similar to the one being picked up today when I was in there.


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    I have a little over 100 miles on my Mayhem so it's probably time for a quick review. Coming from a 27.5 (Spot Rollik - just sold) the Mayhem fit like a glove. Actually, it fits slightly better (I'm 6'1") than my old Rollik even though the geo is pretty much identical. Feels like the top tube is slightly longer (though on paper it's not). My only guess the slightly slacker seat angle on the Mayhem vs the Rollik is the deal here.

    Climbing: This thing climbs like a mountain goat. Super efficient, no bob, no wallowing, great traction. Fast. I am setting PR's on many of my local climbs vs the Rollik and my previous 29er (Turner Sultan).

    Descending: FAST! I forgot just how fast a 29er wheel rolls after several months on a 27.5. This is easily the most stable bike I have ever been on. With the Fox36 and carbon hoops, I can't get the Mayhem to flex (I'm close to 190lbs w/ gear). Zero deflection. Point, shoot and hold on. At the same time, it's fairly nimble through tight turns and switchbacks. Not as nimble as the Rollik though. As another poster mentioned, I don't find myself wanting to launch off everything vs the Rollik. This is probably the one aspect that I miss most but is typical with all 29ers I've been on.

    I demoed a ton of bikes last season (mostly 29ers) before buying the Rollik (demoed it on a whim as there wasn't a line and bought one the following week). The Mayhem reminds me most of the Yeti SB5.5 but is a much more efficient climber. It actually climbs better than the short travel 29ers I demoed (Pivot 429 trail, SC Tallboy).

    I am planning to try it with 27.5+ wheels/tires at some point to see if I can have two bikes in one with a simple wheel swap. Though if I could afford it, I would not have sold my Rollik and have both bikes in my quiver. They have truly dialed both bikes to get the most out of each wheel size.
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    Posted this in another forum last week.

    Today I had the first ride on my small black Mayhem wuthering 27.5+. Setup includes a 140mm 2018 Fox 34 modified by Push. Ibis 752 rims with I9 straight pull hubs carbon everything.

    Past bikes have been Ibis MOJO 3, T
    2016 Trek Fuel EX 9.9, Evil Following, SC Tall boy 2 Carbon.... All top builds.

    In summary, it was kickass. Rode east coast roots rocky stuff with XC mix. A few things standout. Downhill it's very composed and plush. However climbing and pedaling in just rocks. The suspension forms up and each pedal stoke noticeably moves the bike forward. Efficient. It handles great. This is where it gets confusing. By far the Trek has been the most nimble and fastest. The Mojo has been pretty good. The Spot is very Trek like. It's longer and has a longer CS than all the others. It's also slacker. However it's on parole with the XC Trek. Don't know why.

    It was fun to ride for sure. I am excited. For those that think this is new bike syndrome, I ride all new bikes very conservatively. For safety and fair comparison. I ride to the point that I lose comfort. That is the edge.

    The Spot is..... Spot on. I am running 2.6 tires and had a few pedal strikes. I think I can avoid these as I get used to the setup.

    The Mayhem is super promising. I look forward to riding it more and more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Posted this in another forum last week.

    Today I had the first ride on my small black Mayhem wuthering 27.5+. Setup includes a 140mm 2018 Fox 34 modified by Push. Ibis 752 rims with I9 straight pull hubs carbon everything.

    Past bikes have been Ibis MOJO 3, T
    2016 Trek Fuel EX 9.9, Evil Following, SC Tall boy 2 Carbon.... All top builds.

    In summary, it was kickass. Rode east coast roots rocky stuff with XC mix. A few things standout. Downhill it's very composed and plush. However climbing and pedaling in just rocks. The suspension forms up and each pedal stoke noticeably moves the bike forward. Efficient. It handles great. This is where it gets confusing. By far the Trek has been the most nimble and fastest. The Mojo has been pretty good. The Spot is very Trek like. It's longer and has a longer CS than all the others. It's also slacker. However it's on parole with the XC Trek. Don't know why.

    It was fun to ride for sure. I am excited. For those that think this is new bike syndrome, I ride all new bikes very conservatively. For safety and fair comparison. I ride to the point that I lose comfort. That is the edge.

    The Spot is..... Spot on. I am running 2.6 tires and had a few pedal strikes. I think I can avoid these as I get used to the setup.

    The Mayhem is super promising. I look forward to riding it more and more.



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    Nice bike and ride report.

    How do you feel it compared to your evil?
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    It's a much better handling bike than the Evil. I always felt that I was having to exert force on the front of the Evil to get it to rail. Suspension wise, much more comfortable and less harsh in the chatter. What do you mean by csl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    It's a much better handling bike than the Evil. I always felt that I was having to exert force on the front of the Evil to get it to rail. Suspension wise, much more comfortable and less harsh in the chatter. What do you mean by csl?

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    Yeah I blanked for a moment. I don't really notice it. I thoughts the longer csl and wheelbase would be noticeable however it isn't. That is what is confusing. Not sure why it handles better than both.

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    Has anyone ridden the Rollick and the Mayhem in 27.5+? I am just wondering because I think the Mayhem is very playful in 27.5 mode and would like to hear a comparison. I switch wheelsizes often as both are a blast in their own way.

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    Had a ride today in a real rocky area where I have a lot of experience. Spot performed great. The downhill suspension compliance coupled with the pedaling efficiency is something special. Didnt think I was setting any records because I was just moving along and learning the bike. Set quite a few pr's. I have 2.6s on each end and had some pedal strikes. Bottom bracket measures 324mm. The Spot geo chart shows with 2.8s, BB should be 338mm which is impossible since I had 2.8s on the same rim before and the were only 4mm taller in the rim. Not sure why such a big discrepancy. I am going to install a 2.8 up front and see what that does. Then maybe in rear too.

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    2.8s raised the BB up to a good level.

    This is one great climbing and pedaling bike. Not sure how to describe it other than very efficient whixh translates into an easier time, less fatigue and fast strava segments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    2.8s raised the BB up to a good level.

    This is one great climbing and pedaling bike. Not sure how to describe it other than very efficient whixh translates into an easier time, less fatigue and fast strava segments.

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    I can't wait myself and two friends are all getting the Mayham, there's will be complete bikes mine will be frame only . Decided to go with the pike at 140mm 2018 only weighs 66 g more than the fox 34 at 140mm. I will have two different sets of wheels to play with 650 B+ and 29er wheels both Carbon. Any more input on how it compared to the fuel EX 9.9 that I still have. I believe you sold yours correct ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I can't wait myself and two friends are all getting the Mayham, there's will be complete bikes mine will be frame only . Decided to go with the pike at 140mm 2018 only weighs 66 g more than the fox 34 at 140mm. I will have two different sets of wheels to play with 650 B+ and 29er wheels both Carbon. Any more input on how it compared to the fuel EX 9.9 that I still have. I believe you sold yours correct ?
    Yeah I sold the 9.9 a while ago. I loved that bike. I sold it locally so have access to it.

    The Mayhem is more like the 9.9 than the Mojo3. The 9.9 was no doubt lighter. I purposely didn't weight the Mayhem because I didn't want to taint my thoughts. The Mayhem handles as well. I don't know why because it shouldn't. It pedals better though. I set a lot of pr's on the Trek, but I recall trying to do so. I have broken some of those with the Mayhem without trying or being aware. That surprises me. It seems to just go when I pedal or hammer it. I am also 10nlbs heavier myself. And running the plus tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Yeah I sold the 9.9 a while ago. I loved that bike. I sold it locally so have access to it.

    The Mayhem is more like the 9.9 than the Mojo3. The 9.9 was no doubt lighter. I purposely didn't weight the Mayhem because I didn't want to taint my thoughts. The Mayhem handles as well. I don't know why because it shouldn't. It pedals better though. I set a lot of pr's on the Trek, but I recall trying to do so. I have broken some of those with the Mayhem without trying or being aware. That surprises me. It seems to just go when I pedal or hammer it. I am also 10nlbs heavier myself. And running the plus tires.

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    The transfer of power I find intriguing about the Mayham, I feel the Fuel 9.9 lacks in that area compared to my Pivot 429sl that I had to sell after breaking 4 of them. I still have no desire to sell the Fuel EX 9.9, it's been a great bike with 0 problems. I will be down to 3 bikes, Transition trans Am 29er single speed the Fuel and now the Mayham 29er. Going to keep it light with 1x11 Sram xx1, Race Face Nest SL G4 crank, XTR brakes, Race Face Dropper, Enve 40mm stem and light carbon wheels. I have 3 set's to choose from. Thinking 25.5-26lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    The transfer of power I find intriguing about the Mayham, I feel the Fuel 9.9 lacks in that area compared to my Pivot 429sl that I had to sell after breaking 4 of them. I still have no desire to sell the Fuel EX 9.9, it's been a great bike with 0 problems. I will be down to 3 bikes, Transition trans Am 29er single speed the Fuel and now the Mayham 29er. Going to keep it light with 1x11 Sram xx1, Race Face Nest SL G4 crank, XTR brakes, Race Face Dropper, Enve 40mm stem and light carbon wheels. I have 3 set's to choose from. Thinking 25.5-26lbs.
    Yeah I have top notch stuff too. No need to weigh it because I couldn't really get it any lighter.

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    Picked mine up today and changed out the wheelset, stem and bars. Going for the inaugural ride at Chimpex in the morning. Hope it rides as well as it looks. Got the new graphics on the 36.


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    Well? Where's that review?
    Made it The Wall at Der Crik? Made Dino Ridge's stairs clean, all the way up? KOM'd on "The Big Droopy" at Buff Crik? C'mon, inquiring minds are jealous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Well? Where's that review?
    Made it The Wall at Der Crik? Made Dino Ridge's stairs clean, all the way up? KOM'd on "The Big Droopy" at Buff Crik? C'mon, inquiring minds are jealous!
    Ha, according to the stravas i have 99 miles on the Mayhem(took a week off for a camping trip). All but one have been Deer Creek and Chimpex/Apex with one quicky on Dakota. It climbs as well as I hoped it would, if not better. I am not making it up the wall at DC, or even attempting it, but I am making it to the wall cleanly which was one of my summer riding goals. Another summer goal I had was cleaning chimney which used to give me fits on a couple parts. I have cleaned everything except that damn rocky left hand turn which I will get this week. The bike also lets me stand up and hammer up hills. I also own a ss hardtail so I love that I can do this on a full squish bike. I set the shock at 85% of my weight, turned it to open and haven't thought about it since. I honestly have no clue what the fork is set at, I let some air out of it on my initial ride and haven't jacked with it since.


    Descending, those big wheels just roll and roll fast. I was a little skittish leaning the bike over so I got a 35mm stem which seems to have done the trick for me. The tires roll over everything but you still feel the trail. The bike also seems to stay on the trail unless you pull up on it over all small bumps. My bronson and hd3 wanted to bounce somewhat in the same areas. I think this bike jumps better than my previous bikes and is more playful but ymmv. The back end of this bike is stiff, like real stiff to the point where you'll notice it railing into a turn at speed. I could feel the lateral play on my suspension on my previous bikes on couple of the fast turns descending the Apex upper gut(especially the turn into the ruts in the aspen grove), don't feel that at all with this bike. I the 140/130 travel is all I need. I am using all of it but not feeling any bottoming out.

    I wasn't really a big fan of the eagle before I got this bike. I never felt like I needed a lower gear from the 42. I love the eagle now, where you just want to mindlessly pedal up something and just concentrate on steering is where it shines. It is also great for when you do stand up and hammer up a climb then get too tired, throw it on that big dish and recover(I use this a lot climbing Plymouth loop ccw at DC). I'm also hopeful that big gear will help out on big high country rides when your soul is crushed and you just want to spin back to the car.

    I'm a yuge fan of these wide wheels. All they do is grip, even in this dry dirt we have I can not get em to break over. It's a learning curve for me now after sliding so many turns for years. And now I see Maxxis is about to release the Aggressor in a God fearing 2.5WT size.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    Ha, according to the stravas i have 99 miles on the Mayhem(took a week off for a camping trip). All but one have been Deer Creek and Chimpex/Apex with one quicky on Dakota....Maxxis is about to release the Aggressor in a God fearing 2.5WT size.....
    Good to hear! I took my Hightower up to Gold Dust today and can't help but wonder if I'd suffer less w/ the Mayhem!
    Oh, so that hail that bashed my car...well the Insurance co gave me $7.4K, and I got to keep my (bashed up) car. But hey, the engine is sound and all damage is only cosmetic, so screw it...driving it into the ground! Anyway, now I have fundage to get my Mayhem frame. I've got Ethan pricing one out for me w/ a DPX2, and Biker Bob just quoted me a mighty tasty price on a 2018 36 Float that'll take a 20x110 front hub.

    Oh BTW, Nextie will have a sale on their plastic hoops on July 10th...at least $35 off per rim! I'm eyeballing a pair of their premium asymms.

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    Anybody in the 6'4" range been on an extra large? I'm pretty proportional inseam/upper body. If 5'10' works on large it seems like maybe XL might be a little smallish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    I'm a yuge fan of these wide wheels. All they do is grip, even in this dry dirt we have I can not get em to break over. It's a learning curve for me now after sliding so many turns for years. And now I see Maxxis is about to release the Aggressor in a God fearing 2.5WT size.....
    Just pulled the trigger on a large frame

    Oh, BTW, Nextie has their 4th anniversary sale on their plastic hoops. At least $35 off, and that seems to be true for any flavor of rims we might use for this frame.

    Also, just gave a shout out to Fox to see how much the X2 and DPX2 would cost w/ the stock shock turned in for trade.

    I'm also going Eagle, X0 flavor. The gold is a bit too...much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Just pulled the trigger on a large frame

    Oh, BTW, Nextie has their 4th anniversary sale on their plastic hoops. At least $35 off, and that seems to be true for any flavor of rims we might use for this frame.

    Also, just gave a shout out to Fox to see how much the X2 and DPX2 would cost w/ the stock shock turned in for trade.

    I'm also going Eagle, X0 flavor. The gold is a bit too...much.
    I'm not a fan of Nextie for mtb rims, my local shop has had a few Nextie rims come back with breakage to thin outer walls. I have 6 sets of carbon rims 4 are Light Bicycles and all have been bullet proof more money than Nextie but worth it. Light Bicycles only does rims now, no other parts. I love the Project 321 hubs with 216 points of engagement and silent, or Dt Swiss 240 hubs 350 hubs on a budget. This is all my opinion of course!!

    Since I told 2 friends about Spot Mayham and they will be getting full builds with the Mavic wheels I'm a little worried about the wheels that come with the bikes especially the Mavic hubs. Anyone give me their input/thoughts about the Mavic wheels and hubs? I believe it's the one week point on the full builds, they need more options other than Enve that are so over priced, again it's the hubs that really worry me!! I always do frame only, but not everyone can do this!

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    No clue on the actual bike, but looking at the geo numbers, don't think you'd have an issue with the XL and it's 476mm Reach, not unless you have really long arms or like to run a really short stem (<40mm). I'm 6'2.25" with a 35.25" inseam and matching ape arms and my XL Prime has a 478Reach and I run it with a 50mm stem and 800mm bar and it's great, expect you being a bit taller might need a bit longer stem, depending on how upright you like to be.

    Best thing I could advise is to look at your current bike and it's setup and compare the geo.

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    Anybody in the 6'4" range been on an extra large? I'm pretty proportional inseam/upper body. If 5'10' works on large it seems like maybe XL might be a little smallish?
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    I'm 6'5'' and test rode an XL; it felt too small. The reach was short and would have required quite a long stem to get the correct reach. Additionally, the steep seat tube angle and the 175mm cranks that were on the demo bike did not position me correctly.
    While I was quite impressed with the suspension, the XL was just too small for someone of my height/body proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I'm not a fan of Nextie for mtb rims, my local shop has had a few Nextie rims come back with breakage to thin outer walls. I have 6 sets of carbon rims 4 are Light Bicycles and all have been bullet proof more money than Nextie but worth it. Light Bicycles only does rims now, no other parts. I love the Project 321 hubs with 216 points of engagement and silent, or Dt Swiss 240 hubs 350 hubs on a budget. This is all my opinion of course!!

    Since I told 2 friends about Spot Mayham and they will be getting full builds with the Mavic wheels I'm a little worried about the wheels that come with the bikes especially the Mavic hubs. Anyone give me their input/thoughts about the Mavic wheels and hubs? I believe it's the one week point on the full builds, they need more options other than Enve that are so over priced, again it's the hubs that really worry me!! I always do frame only, but not everyone can do this!
    I have a set of the 29er 38mm asymm now. Like them! But for the Mayhem, I think I'm headed towards their "premium" 36 symmetrical. Just a bit lighter at the outer edge of rotational mass. Polyax washer and 14mm alloy nipplers and D-Lites spokes.

    I agree w/ you on the Mavic hubs...their track record is total crap! I'm headed towards a set of Onyx. Heavy, but not rotational. The above 38 are laced to some I9s...and I'm looking fwd to some dead silence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    I have a set of the 29er 38mm asymm now. Like them! But for the Mayhem, I think I'm headed towards their "premium" 36 symmetrical. Just a bit lighter at the outer edge of rotational mass. Polyax washer and 14mm alloy nipplers and D-Lites spokes.

    I agree w/ you on the Mavic hubs...their track record is total crap! I'm headed towards a set of Onyx. Heavy, but not rotational. The above 38 are laced to some I9s...and I'm looking fwd to some dead silence!
    We think alike!! I also have a set of Onyx they are the smoothest and fastest rolling hubs on the planet. The bearing spin forever, you can now get with the alloy driver and save some weight. I have the antifreeze color they almost glow in the dark with sapin cx ray spokes and Derby 35mm hoops, by far my stiffest wheel set. I have a set of Light Bicycles 38mm wide 27.5 + wheels with the Project 321 hubs they are now silent with 216 points of engagement that I will try on the Mayham, can't wait!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Tee hee hee...just got my frame
    Got my first flat today on mine. Still loving this bike. Took the time today to actually set the suspension up somewhat so I'm expecting it to ride even better now.

    I'm not crazy about the Mavic wheelset either. I have a standing Friday morning ride with one of the Spot guys and he rides the Mavics each time and likes em, a lot. He's fast on em and hasn't torn them up. He said they are under the Enve brand now. Price aside, I love Enve. They make a great product and back it up with a great warranty. That said, I have i9s on my bike but I probably would have kept the Mavics if they came with a wider rim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I'm not a fan of Nextie for mtb rims, my local shop has had a few Nextie rims come back with breakage to thin outer walls. I have 6 sets of carbon rims 4 are Light Bicycles and all have been bullet proof more money than Nextie but worth it. Light Bicycles only does rims now, no other parts. I love the Project 321 hubs with 216 points of engagement and silent, or Dt Swiss 240 hubs 350 hubs on a budget. This is all my opinion of course!!
    I have both. There's no real difference between them. Running pressure too low will still kill any rim. This is basically encouraged these days with wide rims and tires and flow-trails, so when the odd sharp rock does come out of nowhere, it's the end of the day for the rim more often than in years past. I have a set of Nexties that I've beat to hell, using them initially for enduro and DH riding/racing on an E29, then relacing them twice for XC on my fatbike-turned-skinny 29er and finally repainting and relacing them again for hard expert and endurance XC racing, to which they are still holding up great, 4 years down the road. I'm definitely getting my mileage out of them, and I don't ride easy at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Running pressure too low will still kill any rim.
    Yup, this is why I'm running above 30psi (my pump's gauge, so prob off) on all my tires, and close to 40 psi on my DH rig (alum rims DT FR570), and spending so much time on the proper setup of my suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    Got my first flat today on mine. Still loving this bike. Took the time today to actually set the suspension up somewhat so I'm expecting it to ride even better now.

    I'm not crazy about the Mavic wheelset either. I have a standing Friday morning ride with one of the Spot guys and he rides the Mavics each time and likes em, a lot. He's fast on em and hasn't torn them up. He said they are under the Enve brand now. Price aside, I love Enve. They make a great product and back it up with a great warranty. That said, I have i9s on my bike but I probably would have kept the Mavics if they came with a wider rim.
    Well, I'm eyeballing a set of Nextie rims. Their Premium layup rims have a 3-year warranty now.
    The Mavic hubs scares me! They've historically been absolute crap in the Crossmax line and the roadie Ksryium line.
    In my hub knowledge base, I've found that the DT 240s are the lightest, but costs the most when you factor in the 54 clutch discs. The Kings are the heaviest outside of the Onyx and has the most drag w/o being loaded. Onyx are the heaviest but dead silent and its bearings are crazy smooth, the Hadleys are the best bang for the buck and relatively light w/ the same POE as the King and you can pop replacement bearings in and out easily (with their tools), and I9 are good but loud AF, 2nd lightest, and cost between a Hadley and King. But, if you want their SS driver for the I9, it bumps the rear to THE most expensive hubs in this group.
    I'd like to get my mitts on a set of Onyx...and apparently they have full stock on purple ano'd bits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    I'd like to get my mitts on a set of Onyx...and apparently they have full stock on purple ano'd bits
    Hum...a full set of purple Hope Tech 3 brakes w/ purple rotors from Merlincycles.com...
    Check those prices!

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    Hum...a full set of purple Hope Tech 3 brakes w/ purple rotors from Merlincycles.com...
    Check those prices!
    Yea I buy a lot of stuff from Merlin, great prices on Shimano to. I also get My Fox forks from Biker Bob! I just got back my 27.5+ wheel set from Project 321 with quiet 216 upgrade and Phil Wood bearings, hubs are purple!!

    What fork are you going with? Drive train? Everyone should watch out for the race face next SL crank They are breaking left and right the pedal inserts come looseand also crack in that area. I have had 2 fail, one sl and the new G4. I think the G 4 are worse. I here they have the R coming out that is more suited for trail use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Yea I buy a lot of stuff from Merlin, great prices on Shimano to. I also get My Fox forks from Biker Bob! I just got back my 27.5+ wheel set from Project 321 with quiet 216 upgrade and Phil Wood bearings, hubs are purple!!

    What fork are you going with? Drive train? Everyone should watch out for the race face next SL crank They are breaking left and right the panel they are breaking left and right the pedal inserts come loose and also crack in that area. I have had 2 fail.
    Fork will be my 2015 36 Float off of my Hightower as will the X2, where I can adjust the travel w/o having to buy an air shaft. I found a freshly serviced DHX2 to replace the X2 on the Hightower. I ordered a 2018 36 Float that will go on my Hightower, with a 20mm axle. I have a spare/backup Pike w/ a couple of air shafts in 160 and 140, so the front wheels have the ability to go back and forth between 20x110 and 15x100 and I can slap it on either bike.

    On the Next SL...were they the older ones or the new G4s? I did pick up a set of G4s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Fork will be my 2015 36 Float off of my Hightower as will the X2, where I can adjust the travel w/o having to buy an air shaft. I found a freshly serviced DHX2 to replace the X2 on the Hightower. I ordered a 2018 36 Float that will go on my Hightower, with a 20mm axle. I have a spare/backup Pike w/ a couple of air shafts in 160 and 140, so the front wheels have the ability to go back and forth between 20x110 and 15x100 and I can slap it on either bike.

    On the Next SL...were they the older ones or the new G4s? I did pick up a set of G4s.
    27.5+, 38mm LB with Sapim CX rays and Project 321 Hubs. I thought I had a pict of the G4 crank arm to show!! 1687g with XD driver for the set with tape and valves, 28 hole. Bonty 2.8 tires are 778 g each, I think Bontrager makes the best tires on the planet!
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    27.5+, 38mm LB with Sapim CX rays and Project 321 Hubs. I thought I had a pict of the G4 crank arm to show!!
    What do they weigh?

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    Taking my large frame to Loveland, CO to have a Cytoe downtube plate mode made. You guys will be able to get one for your frame soon

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    Taking my large frame to Loveland, CO to have a Cytoe downtube plate mode made. You guys will be able to get one for your frame soon
    How are these different than stock?

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    I wouldn't call stock a "plate"...more like a...pad. I can see Cytoe making it so it just bolts on and use that pad as the cushion.

    Think 1/8" thick piece of plastic...not foam.

    I've kicked up enough chunks on my Nomad and Hightower (both have plates) that the mark on the plate might have meant a hole in the carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    I wouldn't call stock a "plate"...more like a...pad. I can see Cytoe making it so it just bolts on and use that pad as the cushion.

    Think 1/8" thick piece of plastic...not foam.

    I've kicked up enough chunks on my Nomad and Hightower (both have plates) that the mark on the plate might have meant a hole in the carbon.
    Looks like Thursday is the day I will be ordering spot Mayham 29er, can anybody post more pictures of the black frame. The red color does it look more red or more orange in person? Some information on dropper post do not get the race face turbine. Nobody can service it like dirt labs or others, race face will not supply parts what a joke !

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    Mine is dirty right now. I prefer black because in sunlight I can see the carbon weave checker patter all over. Plus I can change look by decals and colored pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Looks like Thursday is the day I will be ordering spot Mayham 29er, can anybody post more pictures of the black frame. The red color does it look more red or more orange in person? Some information on dropper post do not get the race face turbine. Nobody can service it like dirt labs or others, race face will not supply parts what a joke !
    The red is more like a tomato red...not orange, imo.
    I went w/ black too...and gonna pair it w/ purple ano bits

    OH! FYI, Merlin Cycles in the UK has the BEST prices on Hope brakes (I got purple ones)...E4 for the front, and X2 for the rear.

    And, speaking of X2...I'm transferring the Float X2 off of my Hightower to the Mayhem

    Oh, and one last...I typically wrap a frame in the ISC helicopter tape before I start building. But ISC doesn't make rolls of heli tape in matte finish. So, found me some 3M Ventureshield that I can cut patterns off of. It's 8mils thick...

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    My black large frame came in a few days ago. It looks very good. I will be putting on a X2 and 36 up front. I have a new 2017 160mm 36 and I am trying to decide what travel to reduce it to.
    Has anyone tried a 150mm or 140mm fork? How does it ride/climb?
    I feel 130mm up front is not going to be enough.

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    I have a 140mm, 29er fork with a 2.8 27.5 tires. All good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    My black large frame came in a few days ago. It looks very good. I will be putting on a X2 and 36 up front. I have a new 2017 160mm 36 and I am trying to decide what travel to reduce it to.
    Has anyone tried a 150mm or 140mm fork? How does it ride/climb?
    I feel 130mm up front is not going to be enough.
    The Spot guys are running their 36 at 150, but with the MRP Ramp Control over charged so the fork is sucked down 10mm.
    They claim it's the most supple setup they've ever had on the Mayhem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    I have a 140mm, 29er fork with a 2.8 27.5 tires. All good.

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    What is your opinion on using a 150mm fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    The Spot guys are running their 36 at 150, but with the MRP Ramp Control over charged so the fork is sucked down 10mm.
    They claim it's the most supple setup they've ever had on the Mayhem.

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    Yes that is what I will end up doing. I already have the MRP and waiting for Ethan to send me the O-ring required for this set up.
    Trying to figure out if I should leave it at 160 and suck it down to 150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    What is your opinion on using a 150mm fork
    I don't really know. I would defer to the guys and spot, since they are actually doing it. My140 was bought directly from push and modified prior to me getting it so performance is pretty good for the 140. However I don't really have a need where I ride for 150 so I have never thought about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    Yes that is what I will end up doing. I already have the MRP and waiting for Ethan to send me the O-ring required for this set up.
    Trying to figure out if I should leave it at 160 and suck it down to 150.
    You need a new air piston rod?
    I'm gonna move my 2015 36 over from the Hightower. There's that rod chamber to tweak in that years fork.

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    Do I need a new piston rod for 2017 fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    Do I need a new piston rod for 2017 fork?
    I have no idea... Ethan question.

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    I am sure he will guide me through when I do the conversion.
    Did you get the frame from Ethan? He included a custom rubber mud protector for the rear link on mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    I am sure he will guide me through when I do the conversion.
    Did you get the frame from Ethan? He included a custom rubber mud protector for the rear link on mine.
    Yes I did, but no he didn't.

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    oops. Ask him for one. It is actually easy to make. I will take a picture and post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    oops. Ask him for one. It is actually easy to make. I will take a picture and post it.
    Nah, I'm good.

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    Thanks for the input on color and the picts!! Yea I love that carbon on the black, so it will be black!

    I wish I could get a 29er fork with 46 or lower offset, have you guys read about the new Transition 2018 SBG bikes coming out on there 29er bikes they will have 42-46 fork offsets. Fox is working with them to make the forks. If you go on there sit there is a cool video that talks about it. I discovered the same thing with my Transition TranAm hardtail single speed 29er a Pike 46mm offset fork. The front end feels much more glued to the ground than with my Fox 34 with 51mm offset on the same bike with the same tire. I will play with the 46mm fork on the Mayham and compare it to my new 2018 51mm offset fork pike that I have. In my opinion it does not slow the steering down but makes it feel more natural and weights the front end better and sightly decreases the wheel base slightly. I think in the future we will see a turn to lower set back angles.

    Also I use Shelter Impact Absorption clear tape on down tube, this stuff is almost 1/8 inch thick and also acts as sound deadener. I use Xpel clear guard on the rest of frame. It goes on wet so its easier to place, I have used it on so many bikes that now I an expert at installing it, its hard to see after it dries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Thanks for the input on color and the picts!! Yea I love that carbon on the black, so it will be black!

    I wish I could get a 29er fork with 46 or lower offset, have you guys read about the new Transition 2018 SBG bikes coming out on there 29er bikes they will have 42-46 fork offsets. Fox is working with them to make the forks. If you go on there sit there is a cool video that talks about it. I discovered the same thing with my Transition TranAm hardtail single speed 29er a Pike 46mm offset fork. The front end feels much more glued to the ground than with my Fox 34 with 51mm offset on the same bike with the same tire. I will play with the 46mm fork on the Mayham and compare it to my new 2018 51mm offset fork pike that I have. In my opinion it does not slow the steering down but makes it feel more natural and weights the front end better and sightly decreases the wheel base slightly. I think in the future we will see a turn to lower set back angles.

    Also I use Shelter Impact Absorption clear tape on down tube, this stuff is almost 1/8 inch thick and also acts as sound deadener. I use Xpel clear guard on the rest of frame. It goes on wet so its easier to place, I have used it on so many bikes that now I an expert at installing it, its hard to see after it dries.
    I'm sitting on a 46mm rake Pike. Just happened to have gotten a 140mm air shaft too
    I picked one up for about $400 ways back, that had some stanchy and lowersscratches. I then found a brand new set of lowers for $60, and then made an offer to some ebayer for $130 for a brand new set of 46mm CSU Yeah, prob ended up paying too much for the thing when all said and done...
    A bit reluctant to run it full time because I run 20mmTA on the 36s w/ the bolted clamp. No twisting can be felt on the 36, but I can...a little...on the 15mmQR forks.

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    Some interesting info regarding fork offset in this review on pinkbike:

    " My ride testing was about making a slacker bike than was then commonplace, and then to test the two offsets that were available from RockShox at the time; 51 and 46 millimeters (Fox obviously were and still are at 44mm). I did simple back to back runs on the same hardtail with a 69-degree head angle, 70-millimeter stem, a 700-millimeter front center and 700-millimeter bars. Clearly, the 46-millimeter offset fork bike was more stable downhill at speed, whereas the 51-millimeter fork simply promoted steering and correction oscillations that I felt almost needed a click of steering damper (if such a thing could exist on an MTB) to make the bike feel the same as the 46. That seemed very clear to me. I didnt find the bike was at all compromised at other times, running the extra trail, and even if it had been, the importance of stability and confidence at high speed on an off-road downhill far outweighed any other negatives. So, weve always followed the reduced offset with slacker head angle philosophy with on-trail performance in mind rather than the car-park test in mind."

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    Again, it's just not that much of a concern, especially here in CO where we almost never see wet trails. Also, The Mayhem's config seems to lend itself to mountain a fork Mucky Nutz fender back there...

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    Patriotic scheme

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    Mo betta

    All joking aside, a white w/ black lettering does look good, no?

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    All joking aside, a white w/ black lettering does look good, no?

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    What do you mean?

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    Black large frame on the way. I feel like a kid in a candy store!!

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    What do you mean?

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    Patriotic scheme: red, white, and blue.

    Red, black, and blue is what I typically look like after my bike throws me a beating 🤣🤣

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    Yeah. Not really any white though. There is silver or gray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Yeah. Not really any white though. There is silver or gray.

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    That's why I "negative" your pic, to get some white in there... And I think it looks pretty good, that white, blue, black scheme, no?


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    Pau11y - Did you take your Mayhem to Cytoe to have a downtube plate sized? Please post pictures when you receive and install. I live in Phoenix where frames and wheels endure a loose rock beating. I will be ordering one as soon as they are available.

    Thanks for posting that tip.


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    I wouldn't call stock a "plate"...more like a...pad. I can see Cytoe making it so it just bolts on and use that pad as the cushion.

    Think 1/8" thick piece of plastic...not foam.

    I've kicked up enough chunks on my Nomad and Hightower (both have plates) that the mark on the plate might have meant a hole in the carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDIDriver View Post
    Pau11y - Did you take your Mayhem to Cytoe to have a downtube plate sized? Please post pictures when you receive and install. I live in Phoenix where frames and wheels endure a loose rock beating. I will be ordering one as soon as they are available.

    Thanks for posting that tip.
    No worries; I shall
    Yeah, I'm a member of GroAZ...know Kimmie?

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    Thanks, I was aware of GroAZ and their trail work and advocacy, I don't Kimmie.

    Thanks Pau11y and looking forward to Cytoe's fabrication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDIDriver View Post
    Thanks, I was aware of GroAZ and their trail work and advocacy, I don't Kimmie.

    Thanks Pau11y and looking forward to Cytoe's fabrication.
    I should have frame Saturday, all parts are used except Head set, BB, Stem and waiting on Fox 150mm dropper. I hope the 150mm dropper will go low enough in large frame for me at 5'10 and 31.5 inseam. It will probably need to be all the way down on seat tube. I have short legs with long torso and arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDIDriver View Post
    Thanks, I was aware of GroAZ and their trail work and advocacy, I don't Kimmie.

    Thanks Pau11y and looking forward to Cytoe's fabrication.
    Here just finished it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Here just finished it.

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    That is one nice looking frame! Is that a large and what size dropper are you going with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    That is one nice looking frame! Is that a large and what size dropper are you going with?
    150 Fox

    Woo, I found a used Monarch Plus for cheap that I'm gonna try with my spare Pike. But it's gonna get a 36 and X2.
    Also picked up a pair of Nextie 36/29, outer/inner widths, and I'm trying to see if I can get a set of P321s to build them on. Ann's purple FTMFW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    150 Fox

    Woo, I found a used Monarch Plus for cheap that I'm gonna try with my spare Pike. But it's gonna get a 36 and X2.
    Also picked up a pair of Nextie 36/29, outer/inner widths, and I'm trying to see if I can get a set of P321s to build them on. Ann's purple FTMFW

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    Cool you will love P321 with the new drive system, and now they are using the EZO bearings from Japan make sure the one's you get have them. The other enduro bearings were junk. The ano on the hubs are also much better quality than I9, no fading in the sun!! Jake at Project 321 is the Man. I like Dave at Speed dreams 'great wheel builder' and gives good prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    My black large frame came in a few days ago. It looks very good. I will be putting on a X2 and 36 up front. I have a new 2017 160mm 36 and I am trying to decide what travel to reduce it to.
    Has anyone tried a 150mm or 140mm fork? How does it ride/climb?
    I feel 130mm up front is not going to be enough.
    I have 3 rides on a medium black MAYHEM now. I put a 150mm Yari fork on it along with a flat handlebar so it would not get too tall. I am pleasantly surprised that it still climbs well with the downhill oriented build. No wheel flop and I cleaned a technical climb at Lair O'the Bear (CO Front Range) that I haven't made in 20 yrs of trying on THE FIRST TRY!

    Totally in love with this bike and can't wait for more riding. I sold my Rollik to build this up and am also pleasantly surprised it has "pop" when hitting fun trail features & doesn't feel stuck to the ground like my other 29ers.

    AWESOME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by twowheelfunman View Post
    I have 3 rides on a medium black MAYHEM now. I put a 150mm Yari fork on it along with a flat handlebar so it would get too tall. I am pleasantly surprised that it still climbs well with the downhill oriented build. No wheel flop and I cleaned a technical climb at Lair O'the Bear (CO Front Range) that I haven't made in 20 yrs of trying on THE FIRST TRY!

    Totally in love with this bike and can't wait for more riding. I sold my Rollik to build this up and am also pleasantly surprised it has "pop" when hitting fun trail features & doesn't feel stuck to the ground like my other 29ers.

    AWESOME!
    150mm may be the ticket!! I here the new 2018 pike for 29er wheels will go 150mm soon, parts will be released August 21st.

    The build has begun!!
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    Been getting mine dialed in. Seat placement is crucial since it has the steep seat tube. Also set shock pressure at 85% of your weight and dial in from there. That is if you have the stock shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Been getting mine dialed in. Seat placement is crucial since it has the steep seat tube. Also set shock pressure at 85% of your weight and dial in from there. That is if you have the stock shock.

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    Thanks for the info. Looks like this 150 dropper is going to be real close for me and my height. That little piece of foam on the downtube is not much, not the best pack job either frame was all loose inside the box. Not being picky just stating facts! This frame is definitely built well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    That is one nice looking frame! Is that a large and what size dropper are you going with?
    Thanks for the loan Paul11y. This protection plate can be ordered through my ad: Rock protection for Santa Cruz, Niner, Ibis, Turner, Yeti, and Spot frames - Buy and Sell Mountain Bikes and Accessories

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    I am also about to join the club of happy Mayhem owners.
    The bike is still in the progress of getting completed, but now I am only waiting for the wheelset to get finished.
    Here are some impressions of the build:
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    In case someone is interested, you may check out the build thread in another (unfortunately German) forum:
    https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/trai...hem-29.849495/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacki View Post
    I am also about to join the club of happy Mayhem owners.
    The bike is still in the progress of getting completed, but now I am only waiting for the wheelset to get finished.
    Here are some impressions of the build:
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    In case someone is interested, you may check out the build thread in another (unfortunately German) forum:
    https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/trai...hem-29.849495/

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    What fork?

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    I pulled this pic from the German thread that sacki linked.
    SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29-revel.jpg

    More info pulled from the translated thread.
    weight: 2085g uncut.
    The fork has original 160mm spring travel at an installation height of 550mm. Offset: 46mm.
    By adjusting the negative spring it is trimmed to a height of 540mm, and an adaptation of the positive chamber with additional end stop reduces the spring travel by 10mm.
    Power in total: 540mm installation height and 140mm spring travel.

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    X-Fusion Revel. It is originally designed as a 27.5 fork with 160mm of travel and A2C of 550mm.
    So I modified the negative spring, to get an A2C of 540mm and also reduced the travel by 10mm on the bottom out end to get enough clearence for big 29er tires at full bottom out (crown-tire).
    Also modified the positve chamber volume to keep the ramp-up at the end of the travel.

    Final Specs:

    Travel: ~140mm
    A2C: 540mm
    Fork rake: 46mm
    Weight: 2080g (uncut steerer)
    Axle/Hub: 20x110 (non-boost)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacki View Post
    X-Fusion Revel. It is originally designed as a 27.5 fork with 160mm of travel and A2C of 550mm.
    So I modified the negative spring, to get an A2C of 540mm and also reduced the travel by 10mm on the bottom out end to get enough clearence for big 29er tires at full bottom out (crown-tire).
    Also modified the positve chamber volume to keep the ramp-up at the end of the travel.

    Final Specs:

    Travel: ~140mm
    A2C: 540mm
    Fork rake: 46mm
    Weight: 2080g (uncut steerer)
    Axle/Hub: 20x110 (non-boost)

    Whoops, someone was faster, sorry.
    Beautiful build, really like it.

    My color is now being changed just the red on inside of rear triangle and the down tube. I'm going to match the silver to the Spot logo, I have had too many red bikes need a change!!

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    A 46mm rake, 140mm travel murdered out Pike RCT3 just got put together and on my frame. This will be a backup fork that can also be extended to 160 for my Hightower.

    The 36 is waiting for an air shaft/piston to get it from 160 down to 140.

    The matte clear bra stuff should be here tomorrow.

    The purple Hope brakes are somewhere in Belgium...

    The Nextie 36/29 premium rims are on their way from China.

    And, gonna pull the trigger on some ano'd purple P321 hubs tomorrow, methinks.

    It's gonna be a strange assortment of colors...K-coat gold on fork, shock and dropper. Ano'd purple hubs, nipples, stem cap, brakes, rotors and seatpost collar. Silver/gray letters on frame, bar, rims, cranks, stainless braided hoses, and shifter housing. And finally red panels on the frame... It should stand out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post

    It's gonna be a strange assortment of colors... It should stand out!

    Ya think? Are you doing the Push thing on the 36 now and not the MRP ramp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    Ya think? Are you doing the Push thing on the 36 now and not the MRP ramp?
    Oh hell no! I'm building the Mayhem up as a lighter trail bike. If I want that expensive spring hot mess, I'd slap it on the Hightower. I'm also not putting the MRP on the '18 36...won't realize the same thing you can w/ the plunger rod air spring that Fox had. It's now the dimple thing, just like the Pike.

    I got my dirty little mitts on a pretty clapped out Monarch Plus, which I'm gonna apply some tuning voodoo on. I can also tweak the Pike pretty well. So, it might be that I can get a Rockshox based squishy bits and get it feeling better than out of the box. AND, it'll have a slight weight advantage vs the 36/X2 combo I'm gonna run. So, on those high country epics...the RS stuff goes on, else, it's Fox stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Oh hell no! I'm building the Mayhem up as a lighter trail bike. If I want that expensive spring hot mess, I'd slap it on the Hightower. I'm also not putting the MRP on the '18 36...won't realize the same thing you can w/ the plunger rod air spring that Fox had. It's now the dimple thing, just like the Pike.

    I got my dirty little mitts on a pretty clapped out Monarch Plus, which I'm gonna apply some tuning voodoo on. I can also tweak the Pike pretty well. So, it might be that I can get a Rockshox based squishy bits and get it feeling better than out of the box. AND, it'll have a slight weight advantage vs the 36/X2 combo I'm gonna run. So, on those high country epics...the RS stuff goes on, else, it's Fox stuff
    Ok mine should be done Monday I hope, anymore ride reports now that you guys been riding this Mayham for a while. Someone at a competitive cyclist said it was finicky to set up the rear shock are you guys finding that true ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Ok mine should be done Monday I hope, anymore ride reports now that you guys been riding this Mayham for a while. Someone at a competitive cyclist said it was finicky to set up the rear shock are you guys finding that true ?
    Still putting on clear bra...
    But on the one demo ride I had, I just ended up just opening up the shock to wide open and had a blast.
    I'm looking at a set of offset bushings to bring down the bb a touch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Still putting on clear bra...
    But on the one demo ride I had, I just ended up just opening up the shock to wide open and had a blast.
    I'm looking at a set of offset bushings to bring down the bb a touch...

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    Yea I had the whole rear of bike a part, Really easy to work on bushings and bearings when needed. They use rubber o rings as dust and water shields around the end caps. The bearings are nothing special probably Chinese, but not sure!

    I made it so I can go any color on this bike now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Yea I had the whole rear of bike a part, Really easy to work on bushings and bearings when needed. They use rubber o rings as dust and water shields around the end caps. The bearings are nothing special probably Chinese, but not sure!

    I made it so I can go any color on this bike now.
    Hum, maybe I will take it apart to do the rear triangle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Ok mine should be done Monday I hope, anymore ride reports now that you guys been riding this Mayham for a while. Someone at a competitive cyclist said it was finicky to set up the rear shock are you guys finding that true ?
    Nope. Set at 85% of weight. Adjusted rebound. Also tested using Shockwiz. So far so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Ok mine should be done Monday I hope, anymore ride reports now that you guys been riding this Mayham for a while. Someone at a competitive cyclist said it was finicky to set up the rear shock are you guys finding that true ?
    Haha, not even close. I set the air to 85% of my weight, put it in open and haven't thought about it since. I use all my travel but never feel it bottom out. I can also stand up and pedal up hill. The design of how the bike uses the rear shock was a big selling point for me. On previous bikes i had always shelled out the dough for a nice shock with a climb switch because I am real sensitive to pedal bob and just mush in general.

    I'm really liking this bike more and more each time I get out on it. I'm crushing my summer climbing goals(how do you ride that rocky left hand turn on chimney?) and setting new PRs on the descents.

    I got it out on a big high country ride last week and it just crushed it like i expected. I feel like I could climb all day on this bike. No squirming around on the seat trying to get comfortable finding the right spot. When it time to get rowdy i just drop the seat and have no trouble keeping up with my long travel brethren that struggled like hell on the climb up.

    My only complaint is with Maxxis for not having a grown man size tire in double down casing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Adjusted rebound.
    Well poop, now I have to fiddle with mine just because.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    Haha, not even close. I set the air to 85% of my weight, put it in open and haven't thought about it since. I use all my travel but never feel it bottom out. I can also stand up and pedal up hill. The design of how the bike uses the rear shock was a big selling point for me. On previous bikes i had always shelled out the dough for a nice shock with a climb switch because I am real sensitive to pedal bob and just mush in general.

    I'm really liking this bike more and more each time I get out on it. I'm crushing my summer climbing goals(how do you ride that rocky left hand turn on chimney?) and setting new PRs on the descents.

    I got it out on a big high country ride last week and it just crushed it like i expected. I feel like I could climb all day on this bike. No squirming around on the seat trying to get comfortable finding the right spot. When it time to get rowdy i just drop the seat and have no trouble keeping up with my long travel brethren that struggled like hell on the climb up.

    My only complaint is with Maxxis for not having a grown man size tire in double down casing.

    That squirming thing while climbing is the exact problem I'm having with my 2016 Trek Fuel EX 9.9 since I made it more trail oriented with 130mm fork "120mm spec" shorter stem and wide 780mm bars and the back end feels squirmy now.

    My Mayham should stand out since it's the only one in this color!! Shown with my lightest race wheels 1378g for the set. 28 hole 27mm wide, Sapim CX Ray spokes DT Swiss 350 staight-pull hubs. Hubs came on 2016 Pivot 429 trail. I torn the alloy rims off and had the LB rims built up, so far holding up great!!
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    I am 6' 4" and the Mayhem fits me perfectly with a 50mm stem.

    Quote Originally Posted by CO29 View Post
    Anybody in the 6'4" range been on an extra large? I'm pretty proportional inseam/upper body. If 5'10' works on large it seems like maybe XL might be a little smallish?
    I love sitting up in the middle of the bike, and I have much more control over the bike, especially in tricky sections and switchbacks. The bike is amazing. This a huge improvement over traditional geometry. I bought the spot frame to replace a traditional bike frame, with Salsa geometry. I have 4 bikes, and the Mayhem has by far the best geometry for tall dudes. My Lynskey full squish is close but not quite as steep a seat tube. My other bikes have traditional geo, and, yes, I can ride them, but wow, climbing steep tech stuff is hard and dangerous in comparison. Tall guys with long legs are sitting to far back on steep climbs with old school bikes, and the Spot solves that problem. Besides, everthing else is wonderful on the Spot. As stated before, pedaling is efficient. I am on a loaner fork, and will post a full review once mi Pike plus gets installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smmcpherron View Post
    I love sitting up in the middle of the bike, and I have much more control over the bike, especially in tricky sections and switchbacks. The bike is amazing. This a huge improvement over traditional geometry. I bought the spot frame to replace a traditional bike frame, with Salsa geometry. I have 4 bikes, and the Mayhem has by far the best geometry for tall dudes. My Lynskey full squish is close but not quite as steep a seat tube. My other bikes have traditional geo, and, yes, I can ride them, but wow, climbing steep tech stuff is hard and dangerous in comparison. Tall guys with long legs are sitting to far back on steep climbs with old school bikes, and the Spot solves that problem. Besides, everthing else is wonderful on the Spot. As stated before, pedaling is efficient. I am on a loaner fork, and will post a full review once mi Pike plus gets installed.
    Well it looks like the 150 dropper is not gonna work in my application 10mm too high, this really sucks now I have to go down to the 125 mm. Now build is going to be delayed a few more days again !!

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