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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I just ordered the carbon rocker from my mayhem 29, just received shipping information today. When I disassemble everything I will make sure to examine and check for any stress cracks, I just examined that area everything feels very solid no visible cracks seen at this point. I also have the DXP2 shock I recently added. Iíll give Spot a call tomorrow just to find out if thereís any information that I should be aware of.
    Think we'd all be curious to know what you find out. I'm guessing this is a one off incident, but more info is better.
    I will say, Spots response via this guys YouTube channel was pretty poor. Maybe he set the shock up wrong, maybe not. But the knee jerk, blame the user shtick does not inspire confidence.

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    So my question for Spot President Andrew Lumpkin would simply be this:

    You state that it was the riders fault because he rode the bike with an under inflated shock, and you stated that doing so put more stress on the frame than what it was designed to handle, and that "if you ride any of our bikes with such inadequate setup, sooner or later expect the same result."

    If you know this, then why didn't you add more material to the area that is subject to failure due to those high stress levels? It seems that would have been the prudent design philosophy knowing that a high % of riders out there don't check their bikes before a ride like they should.

    Should Alex have checked the bike before the ride? Hell yea he should have, and it's one of my pet peeves about group rides, as I am that weird dude who checks all bolts, tires and suspension psi before each and every ride...... (thanks for teaching me that Dad)

    However, it sure seems like you knew about the frame's strict requirements and the consequences for not adhering to them, and not doing something to protect customers - and your company, from all of the lazy or simply clueless riders, well that is on you.

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    Kinda like going to Whistler Bike park with an under inflated front tire and breaking your neck casing a jump. Obviously, the manufactururer of the rim should have added more material. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiKudo View Post
    Kinda like going to Whistler Bike park with an under inflated front tire and breaking your neck casing a jump. Obviously, the manufactururer of the rim should have added more material. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiKudo View Post
    Kinda like going to Whistler Bike park with an under inflated front tire and breaking your neck casing a jump. Obviously, the manufactururer of the rim should have added more material. LOL
    +2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiKudo View Post
    Kinda like going to Whistler Bike park with an under inflated front tire and breaking your neck casing a jump. Obviously, the manufactururer of the rim should have added more material. LOL
    Totally agree. I crushed a rim this year because of lack of air. Totally my fault. Did not call bitching about the lack of material in the rim. Just called myself an idiot a bunch of times and won't do it again! Not anyones fault but mine.

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    Comparing a rim to a frame is quite the reach, but if it makes you happy, then OK. I'm not yet a card carrying Spot Army member like yourselves, but it is on my very short list for my upcoming build.

    Hopefully Andrew Lumpkin will eventually show up and answer my question to him to get some things clear in my mind before I hit the Buy-It-Now button.

    Carry on...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Bone View Post
    Hopefully Andrew Lumpkin will eventually show up and answer my question to him to get some things clear in my mind before I hit the Buy-It-Now button.

    Carry on...........
    The bike was mine (I own Chasing Epic), and I rode the broken bike down the rest of the Whole Enchilada after Alex crashed. I know how it was set up, I know what led up to the crash, and I'm happy to answer questions if anyone wants to PM me (I'd prefer not to keep up with this thread since we're currently running multiple trips).

    For what it's worth, I believe it was a perfect storm of an unfortunate series of events that led to this frame breaking, and I also believe it was a one-off event and I'm not concerned with the durability of the other Spot bikes I have in my demo fleet.

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    I did talk to Spot on Friday, I just expressed a little concern for my own Mayham 29er. They said they had the broken bike and were checking it out, it was the new Rollik 607. I also wanted to make sure it was ok to install the new carbon rocker that I should have soon. They reassured me not to worry to install the rocker when it arrives, I also got an email with install instructions. They said many factors probably played into the failure and all carbon manufactures have frame failures. I will inspect my frame when installing the rocker and use my borescope down the seat tube just to be safe, but I can tell right now all is fine with my frame and I tend to break carbon frame with breaking 4 Pivot frames 3-429sl and 1-429 trail.

    I have about 8 rides on the new Fox DPX2 rear shock custom tune by The Flow Zone Maverick Suspension. I really like this shock on the Mayham more supple to small bumps and more progressive on big hits. I have a 9point8 150mm dropper coming with 25mm setback and just put my Dual position air spring Pike at 160mm to 130mm with a flick of the switch, I love this fork so smooth and when I'm climbing really steep stuff just drop it down to 130mm but most of the time its in 160mm. I really love climbing out of the saddle on the Mayham. Stem all the way down, hopefully I can go back to my Enve 55mm stem after installing the new dropper. I have 70mm stem on now with Enve downhill 780mm bar.

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    After reading the Spot's owner comment to Alex The Singletrack Sampler video all I can say it was a bad PR move.Should have think twice before commenting.Imo the incident is a one off thing. But after all that its not gonna change how i look at this brand.Im coming from a 17' Pivot Mach 429 trail and switched over every component to the Mayhem. But prior to pulling the trigger a guy named Steve at Spot was very helpful.He answered my queries.In fact chatted with him few days ago about touch up paint. So far their customer service and answers are Spot on.

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    That's a good point about service, I have called Spot probably 10-12 times since the bought my Mayham 29er frame, everytime someone answered the phone, if they didn't know the answer to my question they got me the info I needed. Everyone was super nice and seamed to have a real passion for MTB. Awesome service and that's really important to me.

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    While the reply may have came off like they blamed the rider they replaced the frame quickly, like in 3 days or so. I wish everyone treated me so shitty.

    Your mouth will say anything, I look at deeds. Maybe they shouldnít have offered an explanation to the frame but that warranty service is as good as it gets.

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    Talk about a tempest in a teapot. Frames of all sorts break all the time, especially in those types of conditions. They replaced it, sh#t happens, move on and work on having fun while breaking the next one.

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    Agreed. People get wound up over nothing. Makes me wonder how some folks get through real life.

    I donít own a Spot, but nothing I read in the owners statement bothers me at all. Itís not ďblaming the riderĒ if thereís evidence that his setup decisions may have contributed to the failure.
    Just like a raindrop, I was born to fall.

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    Some will tend to freak out and swear off carbon after seeing the video.

    However, I have seen the same thing happen to my buddy's aluminum frame in nearly the same spot. He tends to not check his bike before riding and has been known to ride an underinflated shock. He was always pounding the o-ring off the shaft and it killed the frame. He does better now!

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    Nice review of the Mayhem in Mountain Flyer.
    http://www.mountainflyermagazine.com...29-6-star.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Nice review of the Mayhem in Mountain Flyer.
    Tested: Spot Mayhem 29 6-Star ¬ę Mountain Flyer Magazine
    Anyone else have same experience with mavic carbon rims? That's a shame to spend that much on a bike for them to break so easily

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    Just ask yourself one question, Would you let the sampler ride your dream build? I sure the fk wouldnít. I feel for Spot more than anyone else and Chasing Epic as well.

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    I was having such a good time riding today and then this happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Road View Post
    Just ask yourself one question, Would you let the sampler ride your dream build? I sure the fk wouldnít. I feel for Spot more than anyone else and Chasing Epic as well.
    Yeah.

    Iíve seen enough of his videos to know that I wouldnít want him riding my bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I was having such a good time riding today and then this happens
    I donít know if Iíd question a Spot, but Iíll never own a set of Next cranks....do those things break by the dozen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Think we'd all be curious to know what you find out. I'm guessing this is a one off incident, but more info is better.
    I will say, Spots response via this guys YouTube channel was pretty poor. Maybe he set the shock up wrong, maybe not. But the knee jerk, blame the user shtick does not inspire confidence.
    Man, that's not what I got. The guy was bottoming out his frame early in the ride, ignored all signs something was wrong, and kept going until it broke all the way. The whole video is a indictment to the rider acting like a ham head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    I donít know if Iíd question a Spot, but Iíll never own a set of Next cranks....do those things break by the dozen?
    Ive owned them for one year and a month, I hope they are still under warranty, I bought them through Worldwide Cyclery. I sent them an email with pics included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Road View Post
    Just ask yourself one question, Would you let the sampler ride your dream build? I sure the fk wouldnít. I feel for Spot more than anyone else and Chasing Epic as well.
    Nah, donít feel bad for us... Spot replaced the bike already.

    Besides, who else can say they rode the bottom half (or third) of the WE on a broken bike with half a handlebar, no front brake and the wrong pedals?

    And FWIW, the Mayhem is my favorite bike ever. It absolutely rips and I havenít touched my Ripley LS in months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Nah, donít feel bad for us... Spot replaced the bike already....
    And FWIW, the Mayhem is my favorite bike ever. It absolutely rips and I havenít touched my Ripley LS in months.
    +1 on the Mayhem just crushing it in all phases of the game. On the customer service front I have nothing but great things to say about Spot. Paul and Steve have been great to work with from the moment I pre-ordered my frame. I'm local, so I have had the benefit of being able to have direct face to face interaction with the Spot guys. I had an issue with the Fox shock before I even started the build where it was leaking oil and they took care of me right away.

    As far as the Mayhem itself I'll regurgitate a mini review I provided in another thread. Ill say it again....I really, really like this bike. Since I posted this review about 10 days ago or so I have 5 more rides on it. I have to admit I'm a total Strava junkie always trying to improve my DH times. On the 5 rides since I posted this review on 4 of those rides I either moved into the top 10 on local DH segments or moved up the stack in the top 10. These guys really have this thing dialed for Front Range CO riding...

    I have only 5 rides on the Mayhem so far and would be more but my dropper took a dump on me.
    Anyway, the bike is freakin awesome for our riding here on the Front Range...which would make sense considering these guys are right up the road. Mine is set up with a MRP Ribbon Air set at 140mm and the stock .2 volume spacer on the Fox DPS was replaced with a ~.5 spacer. It gets after it on the chunky, fast, tech DH we have here (as 29ner mentioned very stiff frame but it's also ~ 1.25 lbs heavier vs OG Ripley frame) and WOW does this thing climb really well. It climbs easily as well as my old OG Ibis Ripley, which was a great climbing bike. Still early but I would give the edge to the Mayhem on tech climbing sections. To put the whole DH part in perspective the last ride I did where the dropper post broke (i couldn't lower it for DH) I was hitting our most technical, longest, rowdiest descent in out trail network. The best I could do was lower the portion of dropper post that you clamp on as low as it could go. Still way high but better than nothing. I'm not a very fast climber, but I consider myself I relatively fast, aggressive DH'er. Even with the dropper issue on the most technical Strava segment on this roughly 13-14 min DH I was only 3 seconds off my PR on my Hightower (Longshocked to 150 with X2, 160 Lyrik, E13/DHR2 tires etc) On the Mayhem with a jacked up dropper and "lighter" trail tires (Bontrager XR4 front and Forekaster rear) I was almost as fast. Anyways, I need more time on this thing but it really rips on the local terrain. I like it a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Road View Post
    Just ask yourself one question, Would you let the sampler ride your dream build? I sure the fk wouldnít. I feel for Spot more than anyone else and Chasing Epic as well.
    I like Alex i watched his videos but Hell no to sampling my build.Sometimes he make me cringe. I've seen his video of unboxing and first riding his diamondback on trail .And guess what shock wasnt even set up properly.He used to work for a bike shop and I don't understand why not set the damn sag before setting out??? https://youtu.be/o3ueHy1b1lU

    skip to 5:00 and be the judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Nah, donít feel bad for us... Spot replaced the bike already.

    Besides, who else can say they rode the bottom half (or third) of the WE on a broken bike with half a handlebar, no front brake and the wrong pedals?

    And FWIW, the Mayhem is my favorite bike ever. It absolutely rips and I havenít touched my Ripley LS in months.
    If I read the comments correctly Spot drove all the way to deliver the replacement.That right there is awesome.And Steve you are also Awesome for riding his broken bike and giving your bike to him.

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    Ive never been a fan of singletrack sampler honestly. He seems to come across as a bit of a mooch and annoyance in all his content.

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    Interesting chat and I agree with the comments about Alex. Lets forgot about all of that, bikes break, it happens, who cares.

    I am a CO front range guy too, I had an older Ripley, got sucked into a 27.5 150/140 bike, and have decided I want to go back to a 29'er. I have ridden the newer LS Ripley and liked it a lot, but this bike is of interest to me. What length fork are you all running, I am thinking 140 is good, but is 150 bad? And going up to a Fox 36. I want a solid all day bike, that can climb well, and descend well. I am not going to be doing any eduros and I like a bike that climbs well. My current bike does not climb as well.

    Thoughts?

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    Come ride mine, and decide for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgauss View Post
    Interesting chat and I agree with the comments about Alex. Lets forgot about all of that, bikes break, it happens, who cares.

    I am a CO front range guy too, I had an older Ripley, got sucked into a 27.5 150/140 bike, and have decided I want to go back to a 29'er. I have ridden the newer LS Ripley and liked it a lot, but this bike is of interest to me. What length fork are you all running, I am thinking 140 is good, but is 150 bad? And going up to a Fox 36. I want a solid all day bike, that can climb well, and descend well. I am not going to be doing any eduros and I like a bike that climbs well. My current bike does not climb as well.

    Thoughts?
    I'm a long time Ibis fan, and my last bike was an OG Ripley which I loved. I didn't think it was possible, but the Mayhem is a step up in every way over my old Rip. The Living Link seems like a gimmick, but its for real. Not sure what black magic is happening back there to make the bike climb like it does and still crush it on the descents.
    I recently replaced the air shaft on my 140mm Fox 36 with a 150 with a Vorsprung Luftkappe installed. So damn good! Even with the longer stroke fork, no front end wandering issues, even on very steep climbs.
    I do wish the frame was a bit lighter (my large was a bit over 7lbs) but don't think I'd trade the frame stiffness for a few ounces.
    I didn't have a chance to demo the Mayhem before I bought it and have zero regrets.

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    I spent a good 45 mins with Paul and Tyler at Spot's offices/factory the other day and I can state with full confidence that these are good people! That or really good at faking being good people for 45 mins. Lol. Although customer service is obviously a smart practice in general they were under no obligation to entertain my extensive questions.

    Personally I'm still a bit torn between the Mayhem and Alchemy Arktos 29 but after my visit Spot is a company that I'd happily support with $5k+ of my hard earned cash. For whatever that is worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icelt View Post
    I spent a good 45 mins with Paul and Tyler at Spot's offices/factory the other day and I can state with full confidence that these are good people! That or really good at faking being good people for 45 mins. Lol. Although customer service is obviously a smart practice in general they were under no obligation to entertain my extensive questions.

    Personally I'm still a bit torn between the Mayhem and Alchemy Arktos 29 but after my visit Spot is a company that I'd happily support with $5k+ of my hard earned cash. For whatever that is worth.
    Paul and Tyler are both genuinely great guys. And both can rip, for whatever thatís worth.

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    Too bad for the guy (couple post up) who can't press the Buy it now button just because of what Andrew said.

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    I have had a Mayhem since release. In fact, I likely have one of the first frames released to the public. From the beginning, both Steve and Paul have been exceptional. Someone answers the phone everytime. They never seem rushed either. The frame has been flawless. Their support materials are complete and even have torque values. The bike is extremely good. It climbs wonderfully and descends great too. It is stiff as could be. I am sure there have been failures, as any frame does. But I have no reason to doubt their quality or post support. I feel bad as so many will miss out on a great bike if you jump to judgment. I am a fan of Spot because of experience, not because I just own the bike.



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    Anyone in SoCal (Orange County) have a Large Spot I could throw a leg over for a quick ride, even if down the street. At 6' 35" inseam I want to see how the steep ST angle feels. No chance to demo one locally. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicane32 View Post
    Anyone in SoCal (Orange County) have a Large Spot I could throw a leg over for a quick ride, even if down the street. Being tall 35" inseam I want to see how the steep ST angle feels. No chance to demo one locally. Thanks
    I have a 31Ē inseam and ride a large. Iím thinking you may need to size up at 35Ē


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    I edited my post. I'm only 6' but have long legs, shorter torso I guess. The XL numbers, especially WB stretch out beyond what I prefer and with a tall seat height/steep ST angle, I may feel over the bars.

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    I'd really love to throw a leg over a large Mayhem 29, but they're nowhere to be found. Anyone in the Bay Area willing to let me take it for a quick spin? I'm in Oakland, but willing to drive to your local trails just to have a quick spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmanalan View Post
    I'd really love to throw a leg over a large Mayhem 29, but they're nowhere to be found. Anyone in the Bay Area willing to let me take it for a quick spin? I'm in Oakland, but willing to drive to your local trails just to have a quick spin.
    If you ever make it over to Sac you can take mine for a spin.

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    Rekon 2.6

    For anyone interested here are some fresh mounted 2.6 Rekon's on my Mayhem. Going to try them out today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvbiker View Post
    For anyone interested here are some fresh mounted 2.6 Rekon's on my Mayhem. Going to try them out today.
    Looks really really tight in the rear. You think the 2.35 would be better?

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    It is tight, but not as bad as it looks in the pic. I had a 2.4 DHR2 before and this isnít a huge difference, as I have 28mm Mavic pro wheel. Would guess slightly under 2.6.

    As long as I donít have a clearance issue, Iím more focused on the balance of the traction so if it needs to be smaller Iíll try a couple comboís. I wanted the DHR2 off as itís a little heavy and overkill for my current terrain.

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    Looks really really tight in the rear. You think the 2.35 would be better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvbiker View Post
    It is tight, but not as bad as it looks in the pic. I had a 2.4 DHR2 before and this isnít a huge difference, as I have 28mm Mavic pro wheel. Would guess slightly under 2.6.

    As long as I donít have a clearance issue, Iím more focused on the balance of the traction so if it needs to be smaller Iíll try a couple comboís. I wanted the DHR2 off as itís a little heavy and overkill for my current terrain.
    Cool. Report back after a few more rides. I'm running 2.4 Martellos now but have considered the 2.6 Rekons as they weigh less. Did you weigh them to see if they are true to claims?



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    So I hit the 500 mile mark on my Mayhem today since building it in late fall last year, and something I have noticed is even though it is an amazing bike for climbing, Im still not confident while descending on it. I cant put my finger on it, the geometry for me is just not fun while going down big hills, I had way more confidence on my Hightower which seemed to steam roller over everything and just felt like a faster bike, now on the flip side the HT did not climb nearly as efficient, I broke all my PR's for climbing on the Spot, im not even close to the PR's for descending.

    Overall though the Spot is an amazing bike and I see "Bike" magazine made it there BOTY.
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    Do you have a 36 on it set to 140? I plow everything with that set up.

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    Might be the fork. My 36 felt ok going fast, but slower technical terrain was not fun. Front end was harsh and bounced off of everything. Not confidence inspiring at all! Tried every combo of pressure/rebound/volume spacers I could think of. Swapped the airshaft for a 150mm and installed a Vorsprung Luftkappe. Like a whole different fork. Bike feels planted and smooth. Pretty rare ride I'm not PR'ing descents I've done many times. Not sure what fork you are running, but might be worth looking into.

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    I have mine with a Pike 140mm and an X2 for the rear shock. It climbs and descends amazing. I have an Evil Insurgent (27.5) with 150mm travel that descends better but doesn't climb or pedal nearly as well. I haven't ridden a Hightower though so cant relate.

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    How does the x2 feel compared to the stock shock? Does it make rear a lot more plush? Condering the X2 or dpx. Thanks

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    It's great. You can adjust it so much. I have the hsc compression 2 clicks from full open so it feels great on big hits and square edged hits. It takes alot of fine tuning with psi to get right. 1 psi can make a big difference. You can fully close the shock for stretches of road or fire road and it's still active but firm. I'm really impressed. Yes it is heavy but the spot pedals so well I don't care.

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    I have the stock shock and im running a 140mm fox34. Ive been messing with the volume spacers on both and I still cant get it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I have the stock shock and im running a 140mm fox34. Ive been messing with the volume spacers on both and I still cant get it right.
    Did your Hightower have a fox or rockshox? I used to have a Mojo 3 with a Fox34 that felt the same way you describe. I've always had better luck getting rock shox more the way I want. What are you struggling with; early, mid or late travel?

    Also, what size are you on and are you sure you have the right fit. My mayhem is alot longer in reach than I'm used to so I have to run shorter stem and more spacers under the stem than normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Did your Hightower have a fox or rockshox? I used to have a Mojo 3 with a Fox34 that felt the same way you describe. I've always had better luck getting rock shox more the way I want. What are you struggling with; early, mid or late travel?

    Also, what size are you on and are you sure you have the right fit. My mayhem is alot longer in reach than I'm used to so I have to run shorter stem and more spacers under the stem than normal.

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    The HT had a Fox34 fork and I think a RS shock, Im 5'11'' and always ride a large, my stem is 50mm with a raceface next 35 bar 20mm rise. On my ride today I noticed it snapping back really fast, so I slowed the rebound down 2 clicks im now at 1 click to it being all the way closed.
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    @dmo I just saw this today, https://youtu.be/aJ61J0arr3Y and the same exact thing was said for the Rollik even with more travel and a Fox 36.

    I wonder what truly makes them not so good on the descent. I thought the geometry was similar to others líve beenwbke to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    The HT had a Fox34 fork and I think a RS shock, Im 5'11'' and always ride a large, my stem is 50mm with a raceface next 35 bar 20mm rise. On my ride today I noticed it snapping back really fast, so I slowed the rebound down 2 clicks im now at 1 click to it being all the way closed.
    Yeah had the same issue on my 36. It was so bouncy I had to slow the rebound way down to control the front end. Think I ended up 3 or 4 clicks from closed. Helped some, but then it would pack down on higher speed successive hits. With the Luftkappe Iím 7 out from full slow and feels just about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRdWarrior View Post
    I wonder what truly makes them not so good on the descent....
    My experience is the opposite. My review is above so won't repeat it. Will only add that I run mine in 29 (tried 27.5+ on my old HD3 and hated it). At least for the terrain here on the Front Range where Spot is located it kills it on the DH. I do think the bike should come with a 140mm stock. I'm running an MRP Ribbon @ 140. From a data perspective (Strava times) it pretty much confirms for me that this bike is fast.

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    Iím with MSH. That said, the Mayhem is on the poppy/playful side vs soft/plush. It will plow, but really shines when itís pumped and ridden actively.
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    It's great. You can adjust it so much. I have the hsc compression 2 clicks from full open so it feels great on big hits and square edged hits. It takes alot of fine tuning with psi to get right. 1 psi can make a big difference. You can fully close the shock for stretches of road or fire road and it's still active but firm. I'm really impressed. Yes it is heavy but the spot pedals so well I don't care.

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    I have had my Spot Mayhem over a year now. Running 2018 Fox 34 modified by Push and Luftkappe by Vorsprung. Run with both 140 and 130. It's been great in all conditions. What types of downs are you struggling with?

    What shock are you running? IMO, due to the living link, the bike rides higher in in travel unless you are under hard compression. Maybe this is some of your issue in how it feels too.

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    So after about 5hrs more here's the details. If not weighted right the front will wash before the rear. The other downside on the rear is the super steep climbing. I have broke traction a few times where I would not of with the DHR2. I think I'm going to spin the rear tire backwards first before I try trimming the knobs. After flipping rotation, I will trim a little bit of the side nob with a scalpel to get the traction I prefer cornering.

    Aside from small tweaks I'm relatively pleased. I like the DHR2 for everything except the weight. More testing ahead.

    In fairness, I have also made the switch to flats instead of SPD's so the climbing issue may be me.

    Forgot to mention that I did not weigh them, sorry.
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    Cool. Report back after a few more rides. I'm running 2.4 Martellos now but have considered the 2.6 Rekons as they weigh less. Did you weigh them to see if they are true to claims?



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    I think I fixed all my problem, I took delivery of a Canyon Spectral today....lol
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    Do you prefer the Spectral to the Mayhem??? I so close to pulling the trigger on the Spot but have bikes like the spectral on my list as well but pretty sold on 29'' hoops. I have an OG ripley like a lot of others and its time to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naibda View Post
    Do you prefer the Spectral to the Mayhem??? I so close to pulling the trigger on the Spot but have bikes like the spectral on my list as well but pretty sold on 29'' hoops. I have an OG ripley like a lot of others and its time to upgrade.
    What type of riding do you do? I have a year of Mayhem experience, but none on the Canyon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naibda View Post
    Do you prefer the Spectral to the Mayhem??? I so close to pulling the trigger on the Spot but have bikes like the spectral on my list as well but pretty sold on 29'' hoops. I have an OG ripley like a lot of others and its time to upgrade.
    If youíre considering the Spectral, you should also be looking at the Spot Rollik then. Not much comparison between the Mayhem and the Spectral.

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    Yea I dont have much experience with 650b bikes. I thin Mayhem is my top bike of choice at the moment. Was looking for 130-140mm travel trail bike that can climb really well (hence my OG ripley w/140 fork) but can still descend will on some tech terrain. I travel with my bike quite a bit and never know what i might end up on. Only thing i dont really like is the brake cable on the outside. Looks soo beautiful...on one side! lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naibda View Post
    Yea I dont have much experience with 650b bikes. I thin Mayhem is my top bike of choice at the moment. Was looking for 130-140mm travel trail bike that can climb really well (hence my OG ripley w/140 fork) but can still descend will on some tech terrain. I travel with my bike quite a bit and never know what i might end up on. Only thing i dont really like is the brake cable on the outside. Looks soo beautiful...on one side! lol.
    Can go wrong with the Mayhem. I ride it in everything for more than a year. I usually buy 2 bikes a year, but honestly I can't find anything I would replace it with. I keep getting excited about new things hitting the market, but nothing seems better for my varied riding. Fit and setup are fickle and takes some patience though.

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    It's such crazy subject when talking what bike is best for someone, so many different factors it's impossible to say one bike is the best bike!! When you can ride and own several bikes at once you get a much better idea at what you prefer. For me it's the Trek Fuel EX 9.9 2016 with 27.5+ setup, I can do everything better on this bike than on my Mayham 29er. I love the back end and how flickable and light it is this bike is 25lbs with petals, I'm able to go faster go over higher 3.5 foot logs, climb up technical sleep trails and down fast decends. The Mayham may have the advantage on the most rocky, chunky downs.

    My friend just got the the YT Jeffsy CF Pro Race 29er yesterday, he got rid of the stock crap wheels for new Light Bicycles 35mm asymmetric 29er wheels with 240 hubs, Sapim CX-Ray spokes with brass nips, removed the 46 tooth Cassette for Sram x01 42 tooth cassette. Bike is 26.9 with pedals, I can't wait to demo it!! Brandywine State Park is where I ride!! DE. YT is 5k right to your house, the only thing I don't like are the wheels!! Why can't anyone get the the Wheels and hubs right? I also love the Philosophy of the founder of YT, YT means Young Talent but has nothing to do with age!!
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    how do you guys size? i am going for a demo ride and not sure between L and XL.
    I am 6'-2".

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    6'2", definitely an XL. I'm between 5'10" and 5'11" and comfortably ride a large.

    And by the way, that ^^^^ is a nice looking bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    how do you guys size? i am going for a demo ride and not sure between L and XL.
    I am 6'-2".
    I think choosing the correct size is critical on the Mayham!! I have a large and I'm 5'10 with short 31 inch inseam legs but with very long upper body, so my dropper has to be all the way down, seat all the way back and 70mm stem so I'm not cramped. This causes all kinks of problems for me, I believe this bike with it's very forward geometry works best when the seat post is not slammed all the down this brings you way to forward in the bike.
    We all know that the higher the seat post goes up the further back you are positioned in the bike and in the Mayham this critical. To far forward makes you cramped in the top tube makes it hard to lift the front end. To much weight is now not centered in the bike, I probably should have gone with a Medium and alot of my problem's would be solved. Keep that in mind when choosing the size, my rule now is only to demo the bike prior to buying or work out a deal you can swap sizes it the bike does not fit!!

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    Call Spot with you measurements and they will tell you what to get. I backed this up by getting fitted on a Mayhem as well and they were "spot" on. I'm 6'2" and have a large, because I'm all upper body with 32" actual inseam. You size to your legs and adjust up top. I'm very comfortable on the bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    how do you guys size? i am going for a demo ride and not sure between L and XL.
    I am 6'-2".

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    I'm 5'8" with 32" inseam...I'm thinking medium should be my size for a Mayhem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvbiker View Post
    Call Spot with you measurements and they will tell you what to get. I backed this up by getting fitted on a Mayhem as well and they were "spot" on. I'm 6'2" and have a large, because I'm all upper body with 32" actual inseam. You size to your legs and adjust up top. I'm very comfortable on the bike.
    my inseam mesurement is 44.25" i will talk to them and see if i can take both l and xl for a demo back to back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    I'm 5'8" with 32" inseam...I'm thinking medium should be my size for a Mayhem?
    Yes that is the size for you! I am about exactly the same measurements on a medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I think choosing the correct size is critical on the Mayham!! I have a large and I'm 5'10 with short 31 inch inseam legs but with very long upper body, so my dropper has to be all the way down, seat all the way back and 70mm stem so I'm not cramped. This causes all kinks of problems for me, I believe this bike with it's very forward geometry works best when the seat post is not slammed all the down this brings you way to forward in the bike.
    We all know that the higher the seat post goes up the further back you are positioned in the bike and in the Mayham this critical. To far forward makes you cramped in the top tube makes it hard to lift the front end. To much weight is now not centered in the bike, I probably should have gone with a Medium and alot of my problem's would be solved. Keep that in mind when choosing the size, my rule now is only to demo the bike prior to buying or work out a deal you can swap sizes it the bike does not fit!!
    i dont quite follow, you are cramped on L, your seat all the way back and 70mm stem and you think you should have gone M?

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    my inseam mesurement is 44.25" i will talk to them and see if i can take both l and xl for a demo back to back.
    You sure about that inseam measurement?! You play in the NBA?

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    FWIW I'm 5'6" with a 30" inseam and on a medium. I use a 40mm stem. I could have gone small but prefer the longer reach. My only niggle is the bike has a long wheelbase relative to my proportions. This is less so with 27.5+ wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooly88 View Post
    You sure about that inseam measurement?! You play in the NBA?
    lol, make that 34.25"

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    If anyone on the Front Range wants to check out sizing, I'm happy to let you hop on one of my demos if it's easier than getting down to Spot in Golden... I've got a M/L/XL in both the Mayhem and the Rollik. I'm up in North Boulder, just shoot me a PM and you can swing by my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    FWIW I'm 5'6" with a 30" inseam and on a medium. I use a 40mm stem. I could have gone small but prefer the longer reach. My only niggle is the bike has a long wheelbase relative to my proportions. This is less so with 27.5+ wheels.

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    we are same height and about same inseam. Have medium running 50mm stem. I thought the same about wb since I came from a m429t with a 43"+ wb and Mayhem Med is 46"+. But for me the wb is about right so far. It didnt feel like a super long bike cause the upper geo fits like a glove and my weight is bang on the center. Aloha \w/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biopace View Post
    I have a little over 100 miles on my Mayhem so it's probably time for a quick review. Coming from a 27.5 (Spot Rollik - just sold) the Mayhem fit like a glove. Actually, it fits slightly better (I'm 6'1") than my old Rollik even though the geo is pretty much identical. Feels like the top tube is slightly longer (though on paper it's not). My only guess the slightly slacker seat angle on the Mayhem vs the Rollik is the deal here.

    Climbing: This thing climbs like a mountain goat. Super efficient, no bob, no wallowing, great traction. Fast. I am setting PR's on many of my local climbs vs the Rollik and my previous 29er (Turner Sultan).

    Descending: FAST! I forgot just how fast a 29er wheel rolls after several months on a 27.5. This is easily the most stable bike I have ever been on. With the Fox36 and carbon hoops, I can't get the Mayhem to flex (I'm close to 190lbs w/ gear). Zero deflection. Point, shoot and hold on. At the same time, it's fairly nimble through tight turns and switchbacks. Not as nimble as the Rollik though. As another poster mentioned, I don't find myself wanting to launch off everything vs the Rollik. This is probably the one aspect that I miss most but is typical with all 29ers I've been on.

    I demoed a ton of bikes last season (mostly 29ers) before buying the Rollik (demoed it on a whim as there wasn't a line and bought one the following week). The Mayhem reminds me most of the Yeti SB5.5 but is a much more efficient climber. It actually climbs better than the short travel 29ers I demoed (Pivot 429 trail, SC Tallboy).

    I am planning to try it with 27.5+ wheels/tires at some point to see if I can have two bikes in one with a simple wheel swap. Though if I could afford it, I would not have sold my Rollik and have both bikes in my quiver. They have truly dialed both bikes to get the most out of each wheel size.
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    Anyone try both 27.5+ and 29 wheels on their mayhem? When I built mine last fall i used 27.5 x 2.8 DHF/Rekon. The plus wheels are alot of fun especially in more techy chunky trails. This year I got a set of 29 wheels running 2.35 Martellos which I'm really liking. I find that the mayhem with the 29er wheels is more like a locomotive...keep the speed up and it just keeps rolling through everything. I'm thinking of maybe selling the 27.5+ wheelset but I need some more time to be sure.

    On another note, I broke off one of the cable guide things on my last. Anyone else do that? Waiting to hear back from spot what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Anyone try both 27.5+ and 29 wheels on their mayhem? When I built mine last fall i used 27.5 x 2.8 DHF/Rekon. The plus wheels are alot of fun especially in more techy chunky trails. This year I got a set of 29 wheels running 2.35 Martellos which I'm really liking. I find that the mayhem with the 29er wheels is more like a locomotive...keep the speed up and it just keeps rolling through everything. I'm thinking of maybe selling the 27.5+ wheelset but I need some more time to be sure.

    On another note, I broke off one of the cable guide things on my last. Anyone else do that? Waiting to hear back from spot what to do.

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    Had both. Only run 29 now. Faster in all respects. Don't miss the plus at all.

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    Loving my Mayhem!

    Here's my recent build. Went with 27.5+ for now until I can afford another 29er wheelset.

    Frame - Medium Mayhem (5'10" w/a short reach)
    Fork - Fox Factory 36 (reduced to 140mm travel)
    Shock - Fox Factory DPX2 with .06 spacer
    Crank - Race Face SixC - 165mm
    Chain Ring - Absolute Black Oval - 28t
    Pedals - One-Up Alumimun (take-offs from old bike - new ones on the way)
    Chain - KMC x11sl
    Cassette - XT 8000 11-42
    Dinner Plate - One-Up Shark 50t
    Derailleur - XT 8000 w/One-Up Shark cage
    Shifter - XT 8000 11sp
    Brakes - XTR Trail w/Deore Master Cylinder, Sraightline levers, and Shimano 203mm front, 180mm rear rotors
    Stem - Renthal Apex - 50mm
    Headset - Cane Creek 40, ZS44/ZS56 ZS44 upper, ZS56 lower
    Bars - Race Face SixC - 800mm/20mm rise
    Grips - RevGrips Race Series - Large
    Dropper - Bike Yoke 160 - 31.6 w/Wolftooth ReMote
    Saddle - Flite 1990 Titanium Classic
    Hubs - Project 321 - quiet pawls, Shimano cassette body
    Wheels - Derby 27.5 45i, 32 spoke - Built by Dave Thomas @ SPEEDdream
    Tires - Front - Maxxis Minion DHF 27.5+ 2.8, Rear - WTB Ranger 27.5+ 2.8

    This is my first new bike in 10 years. I am coming off a 2008 Titus Titanium El Guapo set up for aggressive 'chunk' riding here in Arizona (a.k.a. the MTBR handle - 'titusbro'). I just hit 60 this year and I needed a bike that would be more pedal friendly and (hopefully) take me through to 65.

    After a dozen rides on the Mayhem, I am feeling like I'm 45 again! Cleaning climbs as easily as I did at 45 but now I'm 25 lbs. heavier! I still need a little bit more confidence in the tech stuff but so far this bike is everything I had hoped for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    Here's my recent build. Went with 27.5+ for now until I can afford another 29er wheelset.

    Frame - Medium Mayhem (5'10" w/a short reach)
    Fork - Fox Factory 36 (reduced to 140mm travel)
    Shock - Fox Factory DPX2 with .06 spacer
    Crank - Race Face SixC - 165mm
    Chain Ring - Absolute Black Oval - 28t
    Pedals - One-Up Alumimun (take-offs from old bike - new ones on the way)
    Chain - KMC x11sl
    Cassette - XT 8000 11-42
    Dinner Plate - One-Up Shark 50t
    Derailleur - XT 8000 w/One-Up Shark cage
    Shifter - XT 8000 11sp
    Brakes - XTR Trail w/Deore Master Cylinder, Sraightline levers, and Shimano 203mm front, 180mm rear rotors
    Stem - Renthal Apex - 50mm
    Headset - Cane Creek 40, ZS44/ZS56 ZS44 upper, ZS56 lower
    Bars - Race Face SixC - 800mm/20mm rise
    Grips - RevGrips Race Series - Large
    Dropper - Bike Yoke 160 - 31.6 w/Wolftooth ReMote
    Saddle - Flite 1990 Titanium Classic
    Hubs - Project 321 - quiet pawls, Shimano cassette body
    Wheels - Derby 27.5 45i, 32 spoke - Built by Dave Thomas @ SPEEDdream
    Tires - Front - Maxxis Minion DHF 27.5+ 2.8, Rear - WTB Ranger 27.5+ 2.8

    This is my first new bike in 10 years. I am coming off a 2008 Titus Titanium El Guapo set up for aggressive 'chunk' riding here in Arizona (a.k.a. the MTBR handle - 'titusbro'). I just hit 60 this year and I needed a bike that would be more pedal friendly and (hopefully) take me through to 65.

    After a dozen rides on the Mayhem, I am feeling like I'm 45 again! Cleaning climbs as easily as I did at 45 but now I'm 25 lbs. heavier! I still need a little bit more confidence in the tech stuff but so far this bike is everything I had hoped for.
    Great build, looks great! Is that Fox 36 the new Grip2?

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    Unfortunately, no. It wasn't available when I ordered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Anyone try both 27.5+ and 29 wheels on their mayhem? When I built mine last fall i used 27.5 x 2.8 DHF/Rekon. The plus wheels are alot of fun especially in more techy chunky trails. This year I got a set of 29 wheels running 2.35 Martellos which I'm really liking. I find that the mayhem with the 29er wheels is more like a locomotive...keep the speed up and it just keeps rolling through everything. I'm thinking of maybe selling the 27.5+ wheelset but I need some more time to be sure.

    On another note, I broke off one of the cable guide things on my last. Anyone else do that? Waiting to hear back from spot what to do.

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    Here's my recent build. Went with 27.5+ for now until I can afford another 29er wheelset.

    Frame - Medium Mayhem (5'10" w/a short reach)
    Fork - Fox Factory 36 (reduced to 140mm travel)
    Shock - Fox Factory DPX2 with .06 spacer
    Crank - Race Face SixC - 165mm
    Chain Ring - Absolute Black Oval - 28t
    Pedals - One-Up Alumimun (take-offs from old bike - new ones on the way)
    Chain - KMC x11sl
    Cassette - XT 8000 11-42
    Dinner Plate - One-Up Shark 50t
    Derailleur - XT 8000 w/One-Up Shark cage
    Shifter - XT 8000 11sp
    Brakes - XTR Trail w/Deore Master Cylinder, Sraightline levers, and Shimano 203mm front, 180mm rear rotors
    Stem - Renthal Apex - 50mm
    Headset - Cane Creek 40, ZS44/ZS56 ZS44 upper, ZS56 lower
    Bars - Race Face SixC - 800mm/20mm rise
    Grips - RevGrips Race Series - Large
    Dropper - Bike Yoke 160 - 31.6 w/Wolftooth ReMote
    Saddle - Flite 1990 Titanium Classic
    Hubs - Project 321 - quiet pawls, Shimano cassette body
    Wheels - Derby 27.5 45i, 32 spoke - Built by Dave Thomas @ SPEEDdream
    Tires - Front - Maxxis Minion DHF 27.5+ 2.8, Rear - WTB Ranger 27.5+ 2.8

    This is my first new bike in 10 years. I am coming off a 2008 Titus Titanium El Guapo set up for aggressive 'chunk' riding here in Arizona (a.k.a. the MTBR handle - 'titusbro'). I just hit 60 this year and I needed a bike that would be more pedal friendly and (hopefully) take me through to 65.

    After a dozen rides on the Mayhem, I am feeling like I'm 45 again! Cleaning climbs as easily as I did at 45 but now I'm 25 lbs. heavier! I still need a little bit more confidence in the tech stuff but so far this bike is everything I had hoped for.
    What weight did this build come in at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    So what became of this? Gorilla Glue?
    Spot said krazy glue was fine. Seemed to do the trick

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    What weight did this build come in at?
    31 lbs.
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    Very, very close to pulling the trigger on a large red Mayhem 29er. I'm in Maine, and like most, will have to purchase sight unseen. My present ride is a 2014 Trek EX8 29er and it's been, and continues to be, an awesome ride. Yes, another Fuel is on my list, but I'm excited to try something "different".

    Wondering if anyone has time on both bikes and can compare the two. The main concern I have is the Spot's rear end becoming too stiff while climbing and traction becoming a problem. I love to climb and read a review that suggested these two bikes are polar opposites in this regard. At 55, I don't want a full on XC race bike.

    The other concern is sizing. I'm 6' tall w/34" inseam, 210lb ready to roll. The consensus is a large. Thoughts?

    Minor concern, but has anyone actually seen both colors side by side? Has anyone gotten the red and been disappointed with the color?

    Lastly, Spot seems to be backed up a bit (business is good!) and to expedite my order they have offered to ship the frame and the build kit separately. I have decent wrenching skills, but wonder if there is anything that would cross me up. I asked about the brake lines and was told they shouldn't need to be cut for a large frame Thankfully, the threaded BB is not a concern. Anything else I need to worry about?

    I've got to give a huge shout out to Paul @ Spot for his thoughtful, and timely, replies to my many emails. He has shown incredible patients and I have little worry that Spot will take care of any issues that come up in the future.

    Oh, if anyone has a Mayhem within a hundred miles of Southern Maine, I'd love to come check it out. Please PM me if you'd be agreeable to this.

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    Wondering if anyone has time on both bikes and can compare the two. The main concern I have is the Spot's rear end becoming too stiff while climbing and traction becoming a problem. I love to climb and read a review that suggested these two bikes are polar opposites in this regard. At 55, I don't want a full on XC race bike.

    -- I live in MA (metrowest area) and love how the mayhem climbs. I love how when you put the power down it just moves forward. It's crazy stuff btw. I have mine with a fox x2 shock. I'm not sure what shock the mayhem is coming with now. If you can at least get the dpx2. The x2 is damn adjustable though. I've never spent time on a Trek but can compare it to Mojo3, Yeti SB95 and SB5+, Scott Spark, Evil following and insurgent, Pivot Mach 429SL and Mach 5.5. The mayhem does everything the best out of all those bikes with maybe the exception of the Insurgent which is better descending.

    The other concern is sizing. I'm 6' tall w/34" inseam, 210lb ready to roll. The consensus is a large. Thoughts?

    -- I'm 5'6 and on a medium. It has a longer reach but I use a 40mm stem.

    Minor concern, but has anyone actually seen both colors side by side? Has anyone gotten the red and been disappointed with the color?

    -- I was all set on getting the black but then black is so boring so I went with the red. The matte red is really cool in person. Its unique but doesn't stand out at all. If you want to be totally understated stick with black.

    Lastly, Spot seems to be backed up a bit (business is good!) and to expedite my order they have offered to ship the frame and the build kit separately. I have decent wrenching skills, but wonder if there is anything that would cross me up. I asked about the brake lines and was told they shouldn't need to be cut for a large frame Thankfully, the threaded BB is not a concern. Anything else I need to worry about?

    -- I built mine from frame up. I'm not a shop mechanic but have been building all my own bikes for years. The only tricky thing was running the dropper post cable. There is a post in here about how to do it.

    Oh, if anyone has a Mayhem within a hundred miles of Southern Maine, I'd love to come check it out. Please PM me if you'd be agreeable to this.

    -- I'm in MA. I don't get to Maine often but if you come down here ever you can check it out.

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    I don't have time on both the Mayhem and Fuel EX, just the FEX, but dgw7000 does.

    In fact, I believe he is in the process of selling the Mayhem and buying another Fuel EX.

    You guys might PM him on his thoughts.
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    Andrea on Just Riding Along podcast has just switched to a Mayhem from a Fuel EX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti575 View Post
    Very, very close to pulling the trigger on a large red Mayhem 29er. I'm in Maine, and like most, will have to purchase sight unseen. My present ride is a 2014 Trek EX8 29er and it's been, and continues to be, an awesome ride. Yes, another Fuel is on my list, but I'm excited to try something "different".

    Wondering if anyone has time on both bikes and can compare the two. The main concern I have is the Spot's rear end becoming too stiff while climbing and traction becoming a problem. I love to climb and read a review that suggested these two bikes are polar opposites in this regard. At 55, I don't want a full on XC race bike.

    The other concern is sizing. I'm 6' tall w/34" inseam, 210lb ready to roll. The consensus is a large. Thoughts?

    Minor concern, but has anyone actually seen both colors side by side? Has anyone gotten the red and been disappointed with the color?

    Lastly, Spot seems to be backed up a bit (business is good!) and to expedite my order they have offered to ship the frame and the build kit separately. I have decent wrenching skills, but wonder if there is anything that would cross me up. I asked about the brake lines and was told they shouldn't need to be cut for a large frame Thankfully, the threaded BB is not a concern. Anything else I need to worry about?

    I've got to give a huge shout out to Paul @ Spot for his thoughtful, and timely, replies to my many emails. He has shown incredible patients and I have little worry that Spot will take care of any issues that come up in the future.

    Oh, if anyone has a Mayhem within a hundred miles of Southern Maine, I'd love to come check it out. Please PM me if you'd be agreeable to this.

    TIA
    I have owned a 2016 FEX. Have owned Mayhem since release and consider myself a pro in regards to knowledge of the bikes lol.

    Loved the FEX, but only the 2016.

    Mayhem - Traction is never an issue with dpx2 shock in all regards. Dps was ok, but dpx2 changed the bike in all regards. Better downhill by far than the FEX. Seat and bar etup on Mayhem is key because is steeper seat tube. Also shock setup is different. Most that have complained that suspension is too firm, have adjusted incorrectly. You are definitely a size large. In this bike, if between sizes, go bigger.

    I ride rocky and rooty stuff as well as smooth and some DH super rocky stuff. It has duel personalities for sure.

    Ask me whatever you want and I can probably help you.

    Yes Paul is stellar. All the Spot guys are.

    PS, got new carbon upper link and it's smoother than stock. Seems stiffer too.

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    I wonder if the DPx2 shock offered with the Rollik can be substituted? They both have the same 200X57 spec. Has anyone inquired or done this direct from Spot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    I don't have time on both the Mayhem and Fuel EX, just the FEX, but dgw7000 does.

    In fact, I believe he is in the process of selling the Mayhem and buying another Fuel EX.

    You guys might PM him on his thoughts.
    dgw7000 is no longer in the process of selling his Mayhem. It found its way to Montana and I just finished getting it built up last night. Work to do today, but planning on its maiden voyage tomorrow. From laps around the yard, I really like the bike, but trail time will tell!
    Mine has a Pike 140, DPX2 shock, Fox dropper, for now I will be running my 27.5+ Stanís Barons with 2.8 Rekons. Will get my 29Ē wheels swapped on shortly.
    Looking forward to giving it a test!!

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    After reading a few reviews I was a bit concerned about climbing traction as well. Turned out to be a complete non issue. Probably not as active/compliant as Horst Link bike, but it's as least as good as my DW-Link Ripley. May be the best technical climbing bike I've owned. Just doesn't get hung up ledgy trail obstacles. If you can keep pedaling, it will keep going. That all said, the suspension does lean more toward the firm/efficient end vs soft/plush. The bike likes to be ridden actively. Loves to pop off rocks and roots and be driven hard into corners. If you are some one who prefers to hang off the back and plow, definitely better bikes for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    After reading a few reviews I was a bit concerned about climbing traction as well. Turned out to be a complete non issue. Probably not as active/compliant as Horst Link bike, but it's as least as good as my DW-Link Ripley. May be the best technical climbing bike I've owned. Just doesn't get hung up ledgy trail obstacles. If you can keep pedaling, it will keep going. That all said, the suspension does lean more toward the firm/efficient end vs soft/plush. The bike likes to be ridden actively. Loves to pop off rocks and roots and be driven hard into corners. If you are some one who prefers to hang off the back and plow, definitely better bikes for that.
    I agree but re hanging off the bike and plowing you can ride that way with a different shock and proper tune. Yes there arenother bikes that are better in that department if that is your only objective

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    I may be going through Mayham with drawl with the sale, I have been demoing as many bikes as possible. I put a lot of time and effort into the Mayham and never felt 100% comfortable, maybe it's the steep seat tube I seem to like the more slacked out angle on the seat tube like my 2016 Fuel EX 9.9 with 27.5+ wheels and 2.8 tires. This is the longest I have ever kept a bike going on 3 years and I still love it. Wheel base is just right for me and I like the lighter bikes it's 25 now with wheels. Mayham was a really cool bike but I just didn't want to keep putting more money into it, Like new setback dropper I ordered from 9point8, I sent it back before I installed it and decided to sell.

    So I took out the Switchblade med. 29er and 27.5+ large out it's a little to twitchy "29er" for me with high front end and low BB the 27.5+ felt like a boat with the wheels they had on it, The new trail 429 I just need a parking lot ride and I new not for me. If anyone going to do 27.5+ do it right with light wheels and light small knobs light tires you can really feel how fast they spin up. I love the Bontrager XR2 27.5x2.8 tires at 778g very grippie and durable.
    Then I just took out the Santa Cruz Hightower Large it had 150mm fox36 on front with 29er wheels, I like this bike and when I put my 27.5+ setup on it I like it even more!! Bike is heavy though at 31.5 lbs with good parts. Again seat tube angle way back like my Fuel. I have now a Yeti 4.5 med. I need a large. Bike is noisy and can only put small 2.3 tires on no 27.5+, I do like the rear suspension firm but plush. Going to get the New Yeti sb100 on Tuesday for demo, I did jump on a large in the parking lot and the bike felt really nice, the guy's from World Wide Cyclery were doing the 1st shake down ride and I was like is that the new Yeti SB100 they said yes!! They let me take a spin in the lot. Then the new Specialized 2019 Stump Jumper soon, Not my favorite company!!. Trying to get a new 2018 Trek Fuel EX with 140mm fork and new Fox DPX2 on rear to demo this is what some guys are running on this bike Kosmo is one of them!! If I did this that way I would have 2 killer bikes that feel similar but with the 2018 being much more capable to take anywhere, and I know I can build it at 26lbs. Taking my time because I can!!

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    The Mayhem, and other steep seat tube bikes, can be strange feeling to those that have been used to slacker ST angles. Be careful with your crank length too. Knee position to pedal is reduced with the steep seat tube giving you a feeling and reality of being over the bottom bracket and knee forward to the pedals. This is really designed to give you proper position on inclines. If you ride shorter cranks, you may feel it more. I too moved my seat back. In fact went with Selle SMP because they have the longest saddle rails. I suggest finding the best saddle position first, then find the proper stem and bar combo. A few friends in mine have struggled with getting this correct. But they are a little hard headed and rooted in the past. Once setup well, you will adjust and likely enjoy the ride.

    This isn't just a Mayhem issue, but any bike with a steep ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    The Mayhem, and other steep seat tube bikes, can be strange feeling to those that have been used to slacker ST angles. Be careful with your crank length too. Knee position to pedal is reduced with the steep seat tube giving you a feeling and reality of being over the bottom bracket and knee forward to the pedals. This is really designed to give you proper position on inclines. If you ride shorter cranks, you may feel it more. I too moved my seat back. In fact went with Selle SMP because they have the longest saddle rails. I suggest finding the best saddle position first, then find the proper stem and bar combo. A few friends in mine have struggled with getting this correct. But they are a little hard headed and rooted in the past. Once setup well, you will adjust and likely enjoy the ride.

    This isn't just a Mayhem issue, but any bike with a steep ST.

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    That's all really good info, I was trying to find a saddle with longer rails! I think I'm not sold on all this new geo thing, but if I could have gotten the saddle back another 3/4 inch it may have been the trick. The bike did feel really long to me also, but a killer on the down's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Then I just took out the Santa Cruz Hightower Large it had 150mm fox36 on front with 29er wheels, I like this bike and when I put my 27.5+ setup on it I like it even more!!
    Did the demo at WCC go? I thought it was cancelled???

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    It was cancelled, I found a shop that has a fleet of bikes to rent, specialized, Cannondale, Yeti and Santa Cruz. 125.00/week I you buy that money goes to the purchase!! JB Bike Shop in Shillington, PA

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    It was cancelled, I found a shop that has a fleet of bikes to rent, specialized, Cannondale, Yeti and Santa Cruz. 125.00/week I you buy that money goes to the purchase!! JB Bike Shop in Shillington, PA
    Good shop and cool people.

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    Well I sold my frame on EBay, these things definitely don't hold any resale value at all. Anyway it was a cool bike but not the right bike for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti575 View Post
    I wonder if the DPx2 shock offered with the Rollik can be substituted? They both have the same 200X57 spec. Has anyone inquired or done this direct from Spot?
    Yes I just recently ordered a mayhem 29 and had them substitute the dpx2 on and they charged a reasonable $100 fee to do it.

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    Well Im new to the forum, and I just got my large mayhem 29 5 star today. I had them put the dpx2 rear shock. I know ill be spending time trying to set up the suspension but wanted to ask all owners what kind of volume spacers in the fork and shock do you run on this frame? It probably varies Im sure but just curious of others setups, Im 170Lbs and hope I can get this thing dialed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35large View Post
    Well Im new to the forum, and I just got my large mayhem 29 5 star today. I had them put the dpx2 rear shock. I know ill be spending time trying to set up the suspension but wanted to ask all owners what kind of volume spacers in the fork and shock do you run on this frame? It probably varies Im sure but just curious of others setups, Im 170Lbs and hope I can get this thing dialed in.
    I bought the Fox Spacer kit but was told by Spot that the 'maximum' space the shock can handle is the 0.6 spacer. I'm 250+ w/full gear and I am very happy with the DPX2 performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 35large View Post
    Well Im new to the forum, and I just got my large mayhem 29 5 star today. I had them put the dpx2 rear shock. I know ill be spending time trying to set up the suspension but wanted to ask all owners what kind of volume spacers in the fork and shock do you run on this frame? It probably varies Im sure but just curious of others setups, Im 170Lbs and hope I can get this thing dialed in.
    Nice that you guys purchasing now are getting the DPX2 option! I wanted it when I purchased my frame earlier this year but wasn't an option. I just threw on a 2019 DPX2 that I purchased through Ethan at Flowzone/Maverick here in Denver. Based on my riding style he threw in a .6 spacer on my DPX2. I'm about 185-ish ready to ride. I ride pretty aggressively. It's been fantastic so far. No perceivable difference climbing vs the DPS Evol but definitely a bit more plush on hard hits and consistent on the longer descents here in CO. The bike was so good with the Evol but even better with the DPX2. I'm running it with a MRP Ribbon fork, so can't help much with set-up on the stock build Fox fork.

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    What do you guys think of the Mayhem versus the new Fugitive? Admittedly both bikes are probably overkill for the twisty, rooty terrain in my area, but Iíve let technology blow way past me for long enough and both of these options are calling out to me. I am enough of a Luddite to see the aluminum Knolly as more advantageous but both bikes seem really appealing in their own ways. Any opinions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by titusbro View Post
    I bought the Fox Spacer kit but was told by Spot that the 'maximum' space the shock can handle is the 0.6 spacer. I'm 250+ w/full gear and I am very happy with the DPX2 performance.
    I have also bought the spacer kit, but looks like I wont be able to use any bigger spacers... I still feel that Im using too much travel in the rear on medium hits, where my sag is only 20-25% so Im not sure yet how to dial this rear end...On another note, I got the mayhem with a fox 36 fork set to 140mm from Spot and out of curiosity I popped open the top cap to check for volume spacers and sure enough Spot put 4 10cc spacers in the 36. Ill spend some time on this but so far removing 2 spacers leaving 2 still installed makes the initial stroke much stiffer so Im thinking they had it right for my weight etc. Has anyone used the Luftkappe air spring on a 2018 36 fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35large View Post
    I have also bought the spacer kit, but looks like I wont be able to use any bigger spacers... I still feel that Im using too much travel in the rear on medium hits, where my sag is only 20-25% so Im not sure yet how to dial this rear end...On another note, I got the mayhem with a fox 36 fork set to 140mm from Spot and out of curiosity I popped open the top cap to check for volume spacers and sure enough Spot put 4 10cc spacers in the 36. Ill spend some time on this but so far removing 2 spacers leaving 2 still installed makes the initial stroke much stiffer so Im thinking they had it right for my weight etc. Has anyone used the Luftkappe air spring on a 2018 36 fork?
    I installed the Luftkappe on my 18' Fox 36. Like a new fork. Great small bump sensitivity and nice mid stroke support. For around $80 its a no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    I installed the Luftkappe on my 18' Fox 36. Like a new fork. Great small bump sensitivity and nice mid stroke support. For around $80 its a no brainer.
    Awesome, I will be making the order then thank you. Did you have to alter your volume spacer setup after install? Did your fork have this excessive grease packed in it that I have read about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35large View Post
    Awesome, I will be making the order then thank you. Did you have to alter your volume spacer setup after install? Did your fork have this excessive grease packed in it that I have read about?
    Before I installed the Luftkappe I was down to one spacer and pressure 10 psi below Fox recommended. (I'm about 185 dressed to ride and was at 65 psi) Fork still felt harsh and I almost never used all of the travel. With the Luftkappe I removed the last spacer (it takes up some volume in the positive chamber) and am running 75 psi. Fork is supple on the top but still ramps up well. I use full travel now, but only when I'd expect to. There was a lot of grease on the air shaft, but not as much as some I've seen here.

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    Has anyone else tried 29 x 2.6 on the rear of their Mayhem? Have one on the way and really want to run 2.6 if possible. Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonL View Post
    Has anyone else tried 29 x 2.6 on the rear of their Mayhem? Have one on the way and really want to run 2.6 if possible. Thanks!


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    Looking at mine, width wouldn't be an issue, but diameter may be. Not too much clearance with end of chainstay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Looking at mine, width wouldn't be an issue, but diameter may be. Not too much clearance with end of chainstay.

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    Thanks bogeydog. Youíre talking in the front and lower link area? Might just stick with 2.4s to be safe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonL View Post
    Thanks bogeydog. Youíre talking in the front and lower link area? Might just stick with 2.4s to be safe.


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    I have the Rekon's @2.6". It's tight on the rear, but works. I have ridden them for a month or so.Here's my post from a page back in the thread.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/sp...l#post13660118

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    Has anyone else tried 29 x 2.6 on the rear of their Mayhem? Have one on the way and really want to run 2.6 if possible. Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rvbiker View Post
    I have the Rekon's @2.6". It's tight on the rear, but works. I have ridden them for a month or so.Here's my post from a page back in the thread.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/sp...l#post13660118
    Thanks rvbiker. Yours was the one I saw before. Nice looking rig!


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    Got my Mayhem used a few weeks ago and did a complete tear down and rebuild. Finally got a few short rides in on it. This thing pedals as well or better than any full suspension bike I have ridden, regardless of travel. Bike came with some pretty heavy and narrow tires. Looks a little tight in the rear, will a true 2.35/2.4 fit back there with enough clearance?




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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonL View Post
    Got my Mayhem used a few weeks ago and did a complete tear down and rebuild. Finally got a few short rides in on it. This thing pedals as well or better than any full suspension bike I have ridden, regardless of travel. Bike came with some pretty heavy and narrow tires. Looks a little tight in the rear, will a true 2.35/2.4 fit back there with enough clearance?




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    Yeah. I have had 2.35 Nobby Nice, Rekon and Vittoria Barzo and Mezcal

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    Just mounted some Mezcal 2.6s. Even with stretching i think there will be enough room

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    Yep, plenty of room.... I rode all spring with a 2.6" Nobby Nic back there, no issues. Have fun on the new Mayhem, it's a hell of a bike.

    For anyone interested, I wrote a review on my website and posted it last week:

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    MAYhem 509

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    Got my mayhem 9 days ago.SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29-7b137c2d-4788-4f8a-b8ee-79133538e9e6.jpg
    I now have 10 rides on the mayhem
    the bike is awesome, braking prs on climbs and descents every ride without trying.
    Best climbing 29 I have been on. ( I have owned tall boy, tall boy Lt, carbon horse thief, 429 trail, Django 29)
    Decends great also have 34 set at 140( did have my pike at 140 on it, but stear tube to short)
    Frame only build mostly xt, flow mk3, magic Mary and dhf
    Donít know weight but my guess 30-31
    Rear shock is picky to correct pressure and rebound to get it set up properly
    If you like climbing and descending this is a great bike

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    You guys are killing me with these ride reports! I'm saving to buy one but it will be another month or so before I make the purchase.

    I'm 5'8" with 32" inseam...sounds like medium should be my size? I'm debating 29 vs. 27.5+. I'm currently riding a 27.5+ FS bike.

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    Yep, definitely the medium....and go 29er. I don't know anyone that prefers the 27.5+, but I guess it depends on where you're riding it and how you ride. The 29er with a 2.5 or 2.6" up front is all the traction you'll ever need.

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    I started out with 27.5+ because i had a wheelset that size. I later got a 29er wheelset and much prefer it. It rolls fast and has planty of grip.

    I you want a set of 27.5 kings laced to nextie carbons let me know

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    What weight is the medium coming in at with carbon wheels and carbon bars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Yep, plenty of room.... I rode all spring with a 2.6" Nobby Nic back there, no issues. Have fun on the new Mayhem, it's a hell of a bike.

    For anyone interested, I wrote a review on my website and posted it last week:

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    Any chance you have a few pictures of the clearance with the 2.6 Nic on the back? I'm in AZ and rarely if ever ride in the wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    You guys are killing me with these ride reports! I'm saving to buy one but it will be another month or so before I make the purchase.

    I'm 5'8" with 32" inseam...sounds like medium should be my size? I'm debating 29 vs. 27.5+. I'm currently riding a 27.5+ FS bike.
    I would also agree with Smmokan on this. I had 27.5+ on my mojo 3 and just couldn't get along with it. On the flip side i have a Trek Stache 9.6 that is 29+ with a 3.0 tire and it is hands down one of the most fun bike I have ever ridden. My vote goes to 29 Mayhem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonL View Post
    I would also agree with Smmokan on this. I had 27.5+ on my mojo 3 and just couldn't get along with it. On the flip side i have a Trek Stache 9.6 that is 29+ with a 3.0 tire and it is hands down one of the most fun bike I have ever ridden. My vote goes to 29 Mayhem.
    yup agreed....29 - I tried 27.5+ on old HD3 and hated it. I felt it was way too floaty/vague/muted vs 2.3-2.5 tires. I like to ride hard and aggressive on DH and I just like the sharper handling/feel of 2.3-2.5 tires. The Strava "clock" backed up I'm faster on the narrower tires as well. I'm on Front Range in CO, so big, fast descents, lots o' chunk/rock bashing, etc

    Like JasonL I have a 29+ wheelset running 3's for a Kona Wozo fatbike for Spring/Summer/Fall riding and it's awesome. I'm not as fast on it vs my full boinger bikes but so much fun. I probably grab it for 1 out of every 5 rides during the non-Winter months.
    29+ and hardtail just works for me.
    + tires and full suspension did not work for me.

    Back to Mayhem and Smmokan's review, I couldn't agree more with this statement...."Itís the best bike Iíve ridden FOR MY STYLE of riding, which is mostly trail riding in the Colorado high country"
    For me the Mayhem was a replacement for a OG Ibis Ripley that was an incredibly fun,efficient bike that I had set up with a -1 Works angleset, Pike 130. The OG Ripley was a great climbing bike and a very capable DHer for vast majority of stuff I ride on FR. The Mayhem takes that bike to the next level. Better climber by a slim margin IMO vs the Ripley, but another level going back down.
    As a side note...I did replace the stock EVOL shock with a 2019 DPX2 and I run a MRP Ribbon Air 140 up front. For an "allrounder" this bike is pretty incredible. I'm a mediocre climber but fairly fast, aggressive descender. I've busted down a ton of DH PR's on this bike since I built it up earlier this year. Although more of a DH charger on paper my Hightower longshocked with a X2 and 160 Lyrik is just not as fast and efficient for my style of riding on typical Front Range terrain vs the Mayhem.(once again backed up by Strava times)
    The Hightower is definitely more plush on the DH and will handle the burliest sections of trail better vs the Mayhem. The Mayhem is more firm and efficient and for me I'm able to make up any time gaps in those really burly sections vs the Hightower over the remaining 85-90% of the trail.
    For those of you familiar with Crested Butte riding I was able to hit Teocalli Ridge yesterday and Doctors Park (today) for the first time on the Mayhem. It was my first go at Teocalli but Ive ridden Doctors multiple times on different bikes. Doctors is definitely more technical and steep vs Teocalli and the Mayhem took everything the DH throws at you and it helped me chalk up yet another PR. I really can't say enough about this bike and what the guys at Spot have done. Their customer service (next to maybe Ibis) is also the best I have experienced in my many yrs of mtb.

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    If you're in the market for a mayhem, today looks like a good day to do it. $1000 off the 6 star build and free shipping. The 6 star build has enve wheels. Still a $6k rig, but totally decked out.

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    Yep great bike, love mine. One thing no one mentions, this has got to be the quietest bike I've ever owned. I've got around 600 miles on mine and not so much as a squeak so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    ......One thing no one mentions, this has got to be the quietest bike I've ever owned. I've got around 600 miles on mine and not so much as a squeak so far.
    good call out. Same for me on the Mayhem. My OG Ripley was absolutely the noisiest FS bike I have ever owned. That thing was a creak machine.

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    Ill throw out a vote for the 27.5+ on behalf of my wife since no-one else has. She loves the bigger tires, and feels like it gives her more confidence on off-camber and rocky sections as an intermediate rider. I bought 29er wheels to switch out but they are collecting dust in my garage since I bought the Rollik for myself. She feels like 29 is harder to maneuver and not as fun. Ill admit, I did a ride on the plus tires and had a pretty good time.

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    I have owned the Mayhem since it was released in April 2017. Had 27.5 plus and 29er wheels. Settled in 29 as I prefer the sharpness and accuracy of the 29.

    In regards to the Maybe, it excels in all regards. It is the best all aroundwr out there. Anyone that knows me, knows I have owned a lot of bikes and am one to buy a new one every 6 months or so. Fortunately I can't find anything I would buy. Not that one may be better in one discipline, but I haven't found a better one that can do it all. I ride anything from smooth xc single track to super rocky and rooty single track. We don't have huge jumps nor more that 24" drops.

    I have said over and over.....shock setup, saddle and cockpit setup are key. It's fickle and if you don't have patience, find some. I have a dpx2 custom shock. That was big.

    Many have commented that the living link can he firm or harsh on chattery stuff. Yes but it should be due to the suspension. It's different than you are used to but that is why it pedals and climbs well. Small bumps and deep suspension events are plush.

    Paul at Spot is top notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Paul at Spot is top notch.
    Paul is a total hack... kidding, he absolutely rips on the bike. Dude knows what he's talking about when it comes to the Spot lineup, that's for sure.


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    Do you guys that climb with this bike find yourself less fatigued after a climb vs. previous bikes you have owned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Do you guys that climb with this bike find yourself less fatigued after a climb vs. previous bikes you have owned?
    Not really. Climbing is hard. I am a bit faster for the effort on the Mayhem vs other bikes I've owned...but just a bit.

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    so far every 29er i have tried, including Mayhem, i was slower and took more effort to climb than my 650b bike. especially steeper trails. faster on downhills, flats, slightly inclined or rolling terrain.

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    I'm in...finally. There were so many bikes I wanted to test ride (Knolly Fugitive, GG Trail Pistol, Bashee Prime...), but availability in Maine is so limited. The Mayhem was at the top of my list from the start and I just kept coming back to it.

    Paul and I worked out a killer deal around the July 4th Special and I couldn't be happier with what we came up with;

    Large red Mayhem, Five Star build with DPX2 upgrade and 140mm airspring option, 175mm cranks. Should have in a couple of weeks.

    I know a few of you are still dialing in the DPX2 shock. I'm 210 ready to ride. Appreciate anyone sharing their successful setups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti575 View Post
    I'm in...finally. There were so many bikes I wanted to test ride (Knolly Fugitive, GG Trail Pistol, Bashee Prime...), but availability in Maine is so limited. The Mayhem was at the top of my list from the start and I just kept coming back to it.

    Paul and I worked out a killer deal around the July 4th Special and I couldn't be happier with what we came up with;

    Large red Mayhem, Five Star build with DPX2 upgrade and 140mm airspring option, 175mm cranks. Should have in a couple of weeks.

    I know a few of you are still dialing in the DPX2 shock. I'm 210 ready to ride. Appreciate anyone sharing their successful setups.
    Congrats! Sounds sweet.
    On the DPX2 I'm running psi pretty close to my ready to ride weight of 185. That gives me roughly 27-28% sag. I think Ethan at Maverick threw in a .6 spacer on mine when he installed but need to double check that (he might have modified to a .5 but that could have been for the stock EVOL I had on previously). Fairly aggressive riding style focused more on DH end of equation vs climbing. I think the Living link suspension design requires slightly more rebound damping than Fox would recommend for a given PSI, so keep that in mind when you are setting things up. In my case, Fox recommends starting with 10 clicks from closed for 180-200psi and I'm at 7-8 clicks from closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeti575 View Post
    Large red Mayhem, Five Star build with DPX2 upgrade and 140mm airspring option, 175mm cranks. Should have in a couple of weeks.
    Tell me more about this 140mm air spring option. Is this a 140mm rear shock option and if so, what are the geo numbers for it? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpenglow View Post
    Tell me more about this 140mm air spring option. Is this a 140mm rear shock option and if so, what are the geo numbers for it? Thanks!
    I believe he was referring to the 140mm air shaft in the fork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpenglow View Post
    Tell me more about this 140mm air spring option. Is this a 140mm rear shock option and if so, what are the geo numbers for it? Thanks!
    its a fork air spring

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavo View Post
    its a fork air spring
    Makes sense. I guess I was so used to seeing 140mm forks on the mayhem, that I forgot that 130mm was the standard fork size.
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    Right.
    According to Paul, raises the BB 6mm, which was music to my ears. I don't know how many bikes I crossed off my list because of a low BB. I had a Pivot 429 (one model back from the newest version) for a weekend and really liked it except for the constant pedal strikes. For ME, a 13" BB doesn't make sense for the terrain I ride on most.

    Again, have to give a big shout out to Paul @ Spot. I was cleaning out my in box yesterday and there had to of been well over a dozen emails he thoughtfully replied to. Spot definitely earned my business.

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    Would any of you guys use the Mayhem as a trail/ endurance bike? I read how well it pedals. Would you guys use it in 50 mile races?

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    Absolutely! I purchased by Mayhem as a quiver killer to include 12 hour races. My XL 6 star build with the Enves and wout pedals is 27.27 pds.

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    Damn, wish I took advantage of the 4th of July deal ..... it put the 6-star with Enve's within reach, or as close to in-reach as I am going to get

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    Quote Originally Posted by montananate View Post
    Damn, wish I took advantage of the 4th of July deal ..... it put the 6-star with Enve's within reach, or as close to in-reach as I am going to get
    Give them a call, they might be willing to work with you. Solid folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiveo View Post
    Would any of you guys use the Mayhem as a trail/ endurance bike? I read how well it pedals. Would you guys use it in 50 mile races?
    Sure. Plenty of anti-squat, though the frame is a bit heavy. Weight matters, but so does rolling resistance and fatigue reduction, both of which usually get dismissed.

    I just got back from a brutal 50 mile race called Suntop near Crystal Mountain Ski Resort in Washington. 50 miles and 10,000 feet of climbing.

    The winner, who admittedly is a ripping ex-pro tuning uo for a shot at Breck Epic, rode an Orbea Railon. Nuff said, IMO.
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    That is very interesting

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    i dont see why not. The bike really does pedal amazingly well. Legit like climbing with a hardtail. If you wan a 22lb bike then get a xc bike. If you want a trail bike that can pedal like an xc bike the mayhem is pretty much it. But like said before its not for weight weenies. dunno if you are gonna get it under 27lbs. But also said in the previous post...doesnt matter a whole lot,just train hard and lose a cpl lbs of fat.

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    This is what I just got to replace my Mayham if anyone is interested, as far companies are concerned no comparison Spot all the way!! The Yeti SB100 is the perfect endurance/trail bike for me 24.67 with pedals as shown without dropper post, still waiting for OneUP dropper to arrive. Will be 25.5 with dropper post. Definitely more efficient then the Mayham, but the problem I had with the Mayham was fit, for me too steep seat tube angle but a great bike. My large frame was 7.2 lbs and the Yeti large 5.8lbs. Need more time on the Yeti + dropper post. Yeti is a very capable bike with the pike at 130mm, 100mm rear is plush but very progressive further in travel.
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    DGW (or anyone), can you compare how the Mayhem performs (not the fit) compared to the 4.5c? (If I missed it earlier I apologize). I rode the 4.5c this weekend and was amazed at how well it climbed compared to other bikes in its class.

    Everyone raves about the Mayhem's climbing, but then Smmokan's review compares the Mayhem to a Hightower (which definitely doesn't pedal as well as the 4.5c).

    And the one bike Smmokan says he can't compare it to is the 4.5. Note: not criticizing...more using his review as a reference point b/c he has more time on the Mayhem than probably anyone.

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    FWIW, I said the HT was the closest bike I liked overall to the Mayhem... I do think the Mayhem clearly pedals/climbs better though.

    If someone wants to send me a 4.5C, Iíd be more than happy to make the comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    DGW (or anyone), can you compare how the Mayhem performs (not the fit) compared to the 4.5c? (If I missed it earlier I apologize). I rode the 4.5c this weekend and was amazed at how well it climbed compared to other bikes in its class.

    Everyone raves about the Mayhem's climbing, but then Smmokan's review compares the Mayhem to a Hightower (which definitely doesn't pedal as well as the 4.5c).

    And the one bike Smmokan says he can't compare it to is the 4.5. Note: not criticizing...more using his review as a reference point b/c he has more time on the Mayhem than probably anyone.
    4.5c is probably a good bike but personally, anything with extra double shock like contraption, i steer away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    FWIW, I said the HT was the closest bike I liked overall to the Mayhem... I do think the Mayhem clearly pedals/climbs better though.

    If someone wants to send me a 4.5C, Iíd be more than happy to make the comparison.
    I gotcha...like I wrote: not criticizing; just using your review as I think it's probably the most extensive and informed reference point.

    I'm just trying to find the "unicorn" for the riding I do...and so far, the 4.5 is pretty rainbowey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    This is what I just got to replace my Mayham if anyone is interested, as far companies are concerned no comparison Spot all the way!! The Yeti SB100 is the perfect endurance/trail bike for me 24.67 with pedals as shown without dropper post, still waiting for OneUP dropper to arrive. Will be 25.5 with dropper post. Definitely more efficient then the Mayham, but the problem I had with the Mayham was fit, for me too steep seat tube angle but a great bike. My large frame was 7.2 lbs and the Yeti large 5.8lbs. Need more time on the Yeti + dropper post. Yeti is a very capable bike with the pike at 130mm, 100mm rear is plush but very progressive further in travel.
    Nice looking bike.

    But how is it more efficient than the Mayhem?

    100 mm rear suspension wouldn't work for me. Wonder why Yeti didn't make it 120mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    100 mm rear suspension wouldn't work for me. Wonder why Yeti didn't make it 120mm.

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    B/c they already have the 4.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    B/c they already have the 4.5.
    Yes. And no place to mount the bottle.

    Notice how the mount for a bottle cage is the highlight in this review...

    https://www.bikemag.com/gear/first-ride-yeti-sb100/

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    Just joined the Spot family, had the maiden ride this morning, what a fantastic bike, I especially enjoyed how un-phased it was by the square edge rocks, massive upgrade from my elderly Giant Trance.

    I'm curious if anyone is running a frame-mounted pump, and if so, which? I had a Lezyne something or other, that makes more contact with the downtube than i would like.

    (You have to use your imagination to picture Lake Tahoe and Mountains in the background through the haze.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShepherdBC View Post
    Just joined the Spot family, had the maiden ride this morning, what a fantastic bike, I especially enjoyed how un-phased it was by the square edge rocks, massive upgrade from my elderly Giant Trance.

    I'm curious if anyone is running a frame-mounted pump, and if so, which? I had a Lezyne something or other, that makes more contact with the downtube than i would like.

    (You have to use your imagination to picture Lake Tahoe and Mountains in the background through the haze.)
    I don't have a Mayhem (yet) but I think the pump I have mounted to my Stumpjumper would work great. Crank Brothers Gem Short Frame Pump. Very secure and it's pretty inexpensive.

    Glad to hear the Mayhem rides good in Tahoe. Although I ride mostly Auburn, I do try and get up to Truckee/Tahoe as much as possible in the summer. Keep us posted on how it rides those trails.

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    I use the crank brothers pump attached to the underside bottle cage mount, and seems to work great.

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    Have any of you guys try to order or have any success getting the touch up paint for the tomato color?? I have been inquiring since June and always being told its on backorder again and again.

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    New Owner, fitting issues.

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    I got a good deal on a Mayhem 29 build in my frame size and couldn't pass it up, but now I'm having issues with the fit/feel I guess. At first the bike felt great but now I feel like I'm being pushed toward the handle bars and find myself almost being caught over them when hitting turns with speed. I'm on a small frame and 5'5". The dude I bought it from was the same height but preferred going down hill more so he swapped the factory 60mm stem for a 50mm. Would a longer stem help? The handle bars are about 2 cm wider than my last bike too and feel almost unnecessarily wide. I hear everyone talking about how awesome this bike fits but I'm not feeling it just yet. Big upgrade from my fuse 6fattie but I still do feel a lot more comfortable on that and even on other bikes I've demoed recently (hightower, sb5, trail 429) and I'm wondering if buyer's remorse is starting to set in (first time spending big money on a bike). On paper, the bike sounds perfect for my type of riding (flowly, climbs, some quick but not too crazy DH stuff).

    Anyone else near my height and riding a Mayhem? What's your set up like? Sorry for errors. I'm on mobile.

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    Im 5'6" and on a medium. I was on the fence between a sm or med. Initially talking to Spot i thought small and then after more talking about past fit on different bikes i settled on a medium. Im glad i did. I was on a med Mojo3 that i never liked. That was more how it rode than fit. It could be youre used to riding 27.5. It takes time getting used to fit of the mayhem. I have mine with a 140mm fork, a 40mm stem and 760mm bars with 20mm rise. I also have 10mm spacer under the stem.

    Your body proportions may be different than mine. I would stick with it and maybe learn to adjust your riding style a bit - more leaning, less turning if that makes sense. Send me a PM if you have specific questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennythevamp View Post
    I got a good deal on a Mayhem 29 build in my frame size and couldn't pass it up, but now I'm having issues with the fit/feel I guess. At first the bike felt great but now I feel like I'm being pushed toward the handle bars and find myself almost being caught over them when hitting turns with speed. I'm on a small frame and 5'5". The dude I bought it from was the same height but preferred going down hill more so he swapped the factory 60mm stem for a 50mm. Would a longer stem help? The handle bars are about 2 cm wider than my last bike too and feel almost unnecessarily wide. I hear everyone talking about how awesome this bike fits but I'm not feeling it just yet. Big upgrade from my fuse 6fattie but I still do feel a lot more comfortable on that and even on other bikes I've demoed recently (hightower, sb5, trail 429) and I'm wondering if buyer's remorse is starting to set in (first time spending big money on a bike). On paper, the bike sounds perfect for my type of riding (flowly, climbs, some quick but not too crazy DH stuff).

    Anyone else near my height and riding a Mayhem? What's your set up like? Sorry for errors. I'm on mobile.
    5-3 on small. 60mm stem. I don't think that I've seen much in the Forum that says this bike is a great fit. What I say and I have been saying is that fitting yourself to the bike is crucial. That means correct seat placement and stem length and bar with Etc. the Steep seat tube angle is going to make it feel like you are more towards the front and more over the bottom bracket then you likely have been in the past. I suggest scooting the seat back some to see what that does to the feel and pedal position. Get your pedal position correct then adjust the stem and handlebar.

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    Thanks! I'll let you know how everything goes in the next few weeks.

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    Thanks, I met with a fitter and we're going to do exactly what you said. Comparing the set up and geometry to my other bike as well and working things out. I'll let you know what I end up with for a set up

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    Iím 5í10 1/2 and on a large. I was having fit issues at first also. I kept feeling like I needed more room between me and the bars, so pushed the seat back a few times and nothing got better. Actually worse. I went to a bike fitter and we started with seat to pedal position. I had to move the saddle forward quite a lot, bring it down, and tilt it back slightly from where it was. Now, much more power climbing, no numbness that I was getting, no feeling like I need to push myself back on the saddle. It just works and works well. I went from feeling so-so about my purchase to absolutely loving the bike.
    Stick with it, you will make it feel right!

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    Mine's delivering to the house tomorrow. 6', w/34" inseam on a large. I'll share my thoughts on fit once I get a few miles on her. I assume nothing has changed with regards to seat/pedal setup? Knee lined up with axel of pedal... adjust back or forth to taste?

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    I know a few of you have upgraded the rear shock to the DPX2. Worthwhile? Advantage over the stock DPS?

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    Anyone use a good non custom frame bag? Just switched from hardtail and my bag won't work. Would prefer to use a pre made one but open to good custom recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennythevamp View Post
    Anyone use a good non custom frame bag? Just switched from hardtail and my bag won't work. Would prefer to use a pre made one but open to good custom recommendations.
    I have a Blackburn Outpost Corner bag on my large, the fit is good, and it isn't slipping around. Fits a tube, a small first aid kit, multitool and has a bit of space to spare.
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    Ordered mine with the DPX2. Talked to the Spot guys and they said the difference would be noticeable if you are doing long descents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc1620 View Post
    Ordered mine with the DPX2. Talked to the Spot guys and they said the difference would be noticeable if you are doing long descents.
    Yeah but it also makes a general difference too.

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    Nice, let us know how it feels. What kind of general difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennythevamp View Post
    Anyone use a good non custom frame bag? Just switched from hardtail and my bag won't work. Would prefer to use a pre made one but open to good custom recommendations.
    I had a small custom one made by Greg at Rockgeist out of Asheville, NC. I wanted to stick local with one of the CO framebag makers but everyone was either too busy or didn't seem too interested in making a smaller bag like this one. $68 for a small custom bag is a great deal IMO and it came out perfect. I was able to speciify both the side color and the spine colors of the bag and the fabric used.

    https://rockgeist.com/product/medic/

    My requirements were that it be as small as possible but be able to fit my cell, Crank Bros multi-tool, Topeak Smartgauge, Lezyne Alloy Drive mini pump, 1 16g CO2, and Lezyne CO2 Control Drive. I definitely wanted a Top Tube (saddle side) bag vs a TT/Headtube version. The one concern with the Top Tube/Seat Tube junction bag is leg rubbing, but Greg uses stiff foam on the sides so it doesn't bow out. I haven't had any issues whatsoever with rubbing.

    I carry a tube and lever under the seat with a Backcountry Race Strap.

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    That's perfect. Did you email him about a specific color? Looks like it matches perfectly.

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    Has anyone found an insulated water bottle that fits in the medium frame beside the tiny Polar Bottle? I have the 20oz Polar and the 21oz Camelbak and both are a little too big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennythevamp View Post
    That's perfect. Did you email him about a specific color? Looks like it matches perfectly.
    You need to use the color selector when you order. It looks like he made some changes on the spine color selection drop downs (fewer options now) so if you want something specific I would suggest emailing Greg. Iím sure he can still make one with the red spine if thatís what you want. He was super easy to work with and very responsive. My specific order was as follows...

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    Hey All,

    My wife and I were out in CO on vacation (from Illinois) and stopped in Golden at Spot's location. We both demoed mayhems and are completely sold on them. My wife will likely be getting one in the next few weeks... I'm trying to decide if I should squeeze another year out of my OG Ripley. Of course if money were no issue, I'd call and order one today.

    My wife is coming from a size small Santa Cruz SL 29er (2012). We rode Apex and holy sh*t I've never seen her ride so well in the past 9 years we've been riding together. She completely ripped it! She could not believe how much of a better rider the Mayhem made her. Of course the mayhem is a huge upgrade from her current bike, but it was shocking. I was clearing stuff that I would either never attempt, or attempt and not make on my Ripley. The rear was very stiff on the climb, it did feel like a hard tail... so much so I was thinking it would be very harsh on the descent. This was not the case. They are really on to something with this carbon leaf spring. In addition, this thing was stiff. It just plowed through technical stuff on the descent.

    We demoed the bikes on our last day of being out there (after many days of riding) and we spent the nearly 90% of the 15 hour drive back to Illinois talking about these bikes.

    We met Paul, Steve and Travis at Spot. All great guys. They spent 30 or so minutes getting us setup on the demos and then probably an hour discussing them after our ride.

    I have one hang up though, and that's on size. I'm 6'1'' with a 33'' inseam. I demoed the large and it felt great, except I felt a little too forward on the bike? Every time I looked down I'd just think, "wow that front tire is close to me!" When I had the seat down for the descents, it felt great, but when the post was extended it just felt... different? Wouldn't be as big of a deal if I was riding CO trails all the time (climb then descend) but here in the midwest I spend a lot of time on sections of trail which are flatish or have a small grade where I wouldn't necessarily drop the seat to ride. When I took the bike back, Paul pointed out that the seat was rather far forward on the rails (my dumbass should of noticed that), and the stem on the bike I demoed was not the right stem (should of been a bit longer). I got to try a XL rollik in the parking lot just to get the feel, and I'm not sure if I should jump to the XL or not. Spot recommended the L (after saying I was in between sizes and could go either way) because the L would be more playful, but being that I'm about to spend $5k+ I don't want any uncertainties. My Ripley is also a large. Looking back I should of asked if they could swap stems just to try (or not been super giddy about the bike and realize the seat position), but it's too late for that now.

    In summary, the bike felt amazing. Just inspired confidence for both me and my wife. I just need to pick a size (and find some cash ).

    Any thoughts on sizing would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    Hey All,


    Any thoughts on sizing would be appreciated.
    I'm having the same problem right now--feeling forward. I demoed a small, had to have it--bkg upgrade from my past hardtail. Rode it for an hour and had to have it. Now, I've had it for a month now and I'm having issues. At first, I thought it was switching from 27.5 to 29 but I've I've ridden the other 29ers and I've hadn't had this problem. On climbs the bike feels great and the decents it feels amazing. However, when the seat is up and I'm pedaling I feel like I'm being pushed forward. I want for a fit and my pedal stroke is all right. We pushes the seat back as far as it will go and I'm going to try this out for a few rides. I'm in Western Pennsylvania so maybe the terrain is similar to the Midwest nothing crazy like the Rockies so I spent a lot of time with the saddle raised and I don't want to have to push it down every time I go around a corner. You might want to play around with different stem lengths. The stock model comes with a 60 mm but mine came with a 50mm (I got mine used). I put a 70 on right now and I'm trying that I think 60 might be the way to go for me. 50mm was less leaning forward but more lower back pain on long rides, so maybe 60mm will be a happy medium between Also, you can invert the stem for a negative rise so that's possible too. I really don't want to switch my seatpost out but they do make setback seatposts so you could even sit farther back if you wanted to. I hope you get the bike. Talk to a fitter and see if anyone is familiar with the brand and the type of riding you want to do in your area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennythevamp View Post
    I'm having the same problem right now--....
    Let me know what you find. What we are both describing is literally my only hang up, and possible issue holding me back (again, aside from money, ha).
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    What fork length are guys running?
    I settled on 140mm fork with 60mm stem and 760mm handlebar on a large. seat is set slightly rewards of centre. I am 5' 11" with 32.5" inseam and long arms. I have had a mayhem for over a year now and had some similar issues at first. It take a few rides to get the fitting and suspension setup right. But once you do there is no going back. This bike will take you to new levels. I have a fox 36 up front and X2 on the rear. It is just over 30lbs right now with 2.6 front and 2.3 rear NN tires. Funny thing is that as the weight has increased with some upgrades over time the bike has gotten more composed and faster.
    My main trail is flow off camber with a lot of short steep up an downs and the bike pedals great, I do use the dropper post a lot on my rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennythevamp View Post
    I'm having the same problem right now--feeling forward. I demoed a small, had to have it--bkg upgrade from my past hardtail. Rode it for an hour and had to have it. Now, I've had it for a month now and I'm having issues. At first, I thought it was switching from 27.5 to 29 but I've I've ridden the other 29ers and I've hadn't had this problem. On climbs the bike feels great and the decents it feels amazing. However, when the seat is up and I'm pedaling I feel like I'm being pushed forward. I want for a fit and my pedal stroke is all right. We pushes the seat back as far as it will go and I'm going to try this out for a few rides. I'm in Western Pennsylvania so maybe the terrain is similar to the Midwest nothing crazy like the Rockies so I spent a lot of time with the saddle raised and I don't want to have to push it down every time I go around a corner. You might want to play around with different stem lengths. The stock model comes with a 60 mm but mine came with a 50mm (I got mine used). I put a 70 on right now and I'm trying that I think 60 might be the way to go for me. 50mm was less leaning forward but more lower back pain on long rides, so maybe 60mm will be a happy medium between Also, you can invert the stem for a negative rise so that's possible too. I really don't want to switch my seatpost out but they do make setback seatposts so you could even sit farther back if you wanted to. I hope you get the bike. Talk to a fitter and see if anyone is familiar with the brand and the type of riding you want to do in your area.
    Move seat back

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    Quote Originally Posted by voob View Post
    What fork length are guys running?
    140 fox 34 and fox dps on rear. My handle bars are wider than I'm used to at 770 so I may be cutting those soon. How does the x2 feel? And in regards to fitting the suspension, how different was it than the factory recommendations?

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    I have tried a fox X2, a CC inline and a DVO Topaz. They all felt good but the X2 was more composed and more coil like then the other two. Better matched to the 36 up front.
    I kept lowering the air pressure until I was using all the travel without harsh bottoming. I did add some volume spacers to stay within the sag range. I go more by feel then actual sag. I also lowered the tire pressure to the point before the sidewall collapses on hard side loading.
    This has allowed the bike to have better traction over roots and rocks on climbs.

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    Mayhem owners, what are your thoughts on this bike for flatter/flowy type trails?

    (I was thinking) that this bike killed it on the CO front range trail I rode, but am now wondering if it really is a good bike for the flatter terrain I ride 95% of the time in the midwest...

    Appreciate your responses, thanks.

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    I received my bike last week and would like to share some initial thoughts. I'm 6', 34" inseam, 210-15 ready to ride. I purchased a large with 140mm in front and DPX2 in rear.

    ∑ Spot does a great job with regards to packaging. I received a box that was thoroughly trashed and the bike had not a scratch on it.
    ∑ I got red and love it. To me the red doesn't photograph well and is much nicer in person. This bike, regardless of color, is borderline stunning to look at...ymmv.
    ∑ Assembly is a snap and most everything, except suspension, is already dialed in.
    ∑ The dropper has got to be one of the smoothest out there (probably aided by the steep seat angle). I need a few more rides, but it may almost be too smooth. Tap the awesome lever and that sucker DROPS! Perhaps adjusting the air pressure might help?
    ∑ The wheels are already set up tubeless..Nice!
    ∑ Spot is generous with the steerer tube. I like my saddle to be at the same height as my bars and was able to achieve this by leaving the stem on top of the provided spacers.
    ∑ Initially, I was concerned when it came to setting up my saddle placement. I had to push the provided saddle all the way back on its rails and I was still approx 3/4" forward to where I wanted to be (note I have 175 cranks). The cockpit felt a touch cramped compared to my Fuel.
    ∑ After a couple of rides I adjusted the seatpost height to taste and put on one of my favorite saddles (20 year old WTB Laser V) that allows the saddle to slide rearward approx. 1/2" more than the stocker. These two adjustment have the saddle right where I want it.
    ∑ Did I mention this thing is gorgeous to look at!!
    ∑ Others have mentioned how quite it is while riding. I totally agree.
    ∑ No pedal strikes...Woowoo!
    ∑ I need more saddle time, but could see trying a 70mm stem to open up the cockpit just a tad more.
    ∑ Again, only a couple of rides in, but this thing absolutely kills it on the climbs while still being plush on the downs. I started with 80 psi in the forks and 220 in the shock and feel this puts me in the ballpark to what I'll eventually settle on.
    ∑ I agree that fit can be concerning. I contacted as many owners as I could and the consensus was a large for someone my size. Probably right, but pushing saddles all the way back and contemplating longer stems has me wishing I had had the opportunity to have test ridden an XL. This, obviously, is one of the pitfalls of consumer direct.
    ∑ I have no intensions of sending my bike back, but Spot does have a 30 day return policy.
    ∑ Did I mention this bike is very pleasing to the eye?
    ∑ I've been biking for over 35 years and "think" I know what works best for me. This from someone who used to think a 140mm stem and 24" bars were the hot ticket. This bike is a little different, but I was willing to try something a bit different in hopes that my eyes would be open to something better than what I was used to. Time will tell.

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    Don't be afraid to try a longer stem. While the Mayhem's reach number is pretty generous, it still has a relatively short 24" top tube. I'm 5'11" and have my saddle about a cm back from centered and am running a 70mm stem. Fits great now, but definitely took some trial and error to get it just right. Pretty common on bikes with steeper seat angles.

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    I got out with the Spot guys (Tyler, Paul and Connor) yesterday on my home trails here in Eagle to shoot a few photos and show them the goods. I know they won't post anything here, so I thought I'd throw up a couple shots from the morning since they were all riding Mayhems. These guys rip.





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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Don't be afraid to try a longer stem. While the Mayhem's reach number is pretty generous, it still has a relatively short 24" top tube. I'm 5'11" and have my saddle about a cm back from centered and am running a 70mm stem. Fits great now, but definitely took some trial and error to get it just right. Pretty common on bikes with steeper seat angles.
    I am the same height and this is almost exactly the same set-up I have.

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    The wife and I just put in an order for two Mayhems last night. 1 Small in Red and 1 XL in black. Both 5 star builds. We are so excited! We should have them in ~1.5 weeks.

    Have you guys put anything on your frames to protect the paint? I know it's a MTB and it's going to get beat up, but I'd like to keep the frame looking nice.

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