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    I have DI2 on mind. No problem with routing, but I have a housing I got from the hardware store for a sprinkler system. It's black and the DI2 housing fits in it. I wanted to protect the little wire as it runs across from the swingarm to the rear.
    No where to put the battery. I have mine in the steertube. Everything works well. The housing looks good, but don't know of a real clean way for the battery without using Tharsis system. Good Luck!

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    One of the engineers at Spot had the DI2 on his Mayhem for a while(he still might). I demoed it once with the DI2. You could shoot the Spot guys an email and inquire about it. I don't remember much about how it was set up as it all seemed like black magic to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    One of the engineers at Spot had the DI2 on his Mayhem for a while(he still might). I demoed it once with the DI2. You could shoot the Spot guys an email and inquire about it. I don't remember much about how it was set up as it all seemed like black magic to me.
    I shot Spot a email, Paul got back to me and is going to send me some pictures of how he did it on Monday.
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    Hey guys, thinking of a frame up build and have a couple of questions that I'm hoping you guys with a bunch of miles on yours can answer:

    1) Anyone have any weird creaks, clunks or clicks coming from the pivots or leaf spring after many miles of use? Or any other annoying noises of issues with the frame in general?

    2) Is the internal cable routing fully molded or just open? EZ or pain in the arse to route shifter/dropper cables?

    3) Any other issues that you want to tell me about would be appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Bone View Post
    Hey guys, thinking of a frame up build and have a couple of questions that I'm hoping you guys with a bunch of miles on yours can answer:

    1) Anyone have any weird creaks, clunks or clicks coming from the pivots or leaf spring after many miles of use? Or any other annoying noises of issues with the frame in general?

    2) Is the internal cable routing fully molded or just open? EZ or pain in the arse to route shifter/dropper cables?

    3) Any other issues that you want to tell me about would be appreciated!
    No noise on mine after 8 months. Internal is pretty easy.

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    I have a Rollik - but over a year in all kinds of conditions - not a sound from suspension or any other creaks for that matter

    Internal routing is all sleeved on the inside of these frames so push it in one end - comes out the other...

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    After reading through this thread and all of the positive comments, it looks like a Mayhem may be making it's home in Montana!

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    According to Paul from Spot, the max chainring size is 34 when round and 32 when oval. Has anyone tried putting a 34 oval on this frame though? (In XL? I don't know if frame size should make a difference...)

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    Ordered a large, hot tomato, Mayhem 29'er 5 Star build with a 36mm Fox 140 fork today. Should be riding sometime around the first of February! Great people to work with. Looking forward to the bike's arrival!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivierhacking View Post
    According to Paul from Spot, the max chainring size is 34 when round and 32 when oval. Has anyone tried putting a 34 oval on this frame though? (In XL? I don't know if frame size should make a difference...)
    Hope someone can comment.

    Also, can anyone compare the Mayhem with the Orbea Occam TR 2018? Maybe somebody who has demo'ed both bikes?

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    So I'm looking for a chain guide with bash, does anyone have any recommendations? I'm really not sure what fits..I use a 30T chainring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    So I'm looking for a chain guide with bash, does anyone have any recommendations? I'm really not sure what fits..I use a 30T chainring.
    Maybe Absolute Black

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    So I'm looking for a chain guide with bash, does anyone have any recommendations? I'm really not sure what fits..I use a 30T chainring.
    I am running MRP. Works perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivierhacking View Post
    According to Paul from Spot, the max chainring size is 34 when round and 32 when oval. Has anyone tried putting a 34 oval on this frame though? (In XL? I don't know if frame size should make a difference...)
    I can comment on this. Currently riding a size Large Mayhem sporting an Absolute Black 34t oval on Next SL cranks. Tried a Wolftooth first but offset was such that it couldn't clear the chainstay. Note, I did have to offset the BB over to the drive side to create the space. Haven't run into any issues whatsoever and I check on the regular.
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    Find me a Rocker SS frameset that's not $1,200 on the blem list pls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyvagen View Post
    I can comment on this. Currently riding a size Large Mayhem sporting an Absolute Black 34t oval on Next SL cranks. Tried a Wolftooth first but offset was such that it couldn't clear the chainstay. Note, I did have to offset the BB over to the drive side to create the space. Haven't run into any issues whatsoever and I check on the regular.
    Thanks for that! That does look like it's a very close call. Do you happen to know what chainline you have now to allow for the 34T oval?
    For me, the oval didn't feel so different at all. The only thing I noticed is that climbing was a bit smoother, and I could stick to a heavier gear. I also hope the reduced knee stress counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivierhacking View Post
    Thanks for that! That does look like it's a very close call. Do you happen to know what chainline you have now to allow for the 34T oval?
    For me, the oval didn't feel so different at all. The only thing I noticed is that climbing was a bit smoother, and I could stick to a heavier gear. I also hope the reduced knee stress counts.
    Looks like I only had to move it over 3mm or so (standard 2.5mm BB spacer plus a .5/1mm not quite sure). But with the cinch preload spacer backed off, there's plenty of room on the spindle. Same experience with the Oval as far as climbing. Beyond that couldn't tell ya anything.

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    Getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on a Mayhem. Unfortunately, like most, I'm not going to have a opportunity to demo one before I buy. Any input how Living Link compares to DW link, VPP or Switch Infinity? I've owned a couple of Ibis DW link bikes (Ripley and Mojo SL) and it is, by far, my favorite suspension design. Love how it sits high in the travel, doesn't wallow on the climbs and still is poppy on the downs. I've also owned a Santa Cruz Blur and have spent quite a bit of time on the Hightower and Hightower LT. Just not a fan. Can never get the back end to feel like I'd like. I also have some demo time on Yeti's SB 5.5 with SI, which I really liked. However, the 160/140 travel is just too much for my local trails. For those that have some time on the Mayhem and experience with DW, VPP or SI bikes how'd you say they compare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on a Mayhem. Unfortunately, like most, I'm not going to have a opportunity to demo one before I buy. Any input how Living Link compares to DW link, VPP or Switch Infinity? I've owned a couple of Ibis DW link bikes (Ripley and Mojo SL) and it is, by far, my favorite suspension design. Love how it sits high in the travel, doesn't wallow on the climbs and still is poppy on the downs. I've also owned a Santa Cruz Blur and have spent quite a bit of time on the Hightower and Hightower LT. Just not a fan. Can never get the back end to feel like I'd like. I also have some demo time on Yeti's SB 5.5 with SI, which I really liked, but the 160/140 travel is just too much for my local trails. For those that have some time on the Mayhem and experience with DW, VPP or SI bikes how'd you say they compare?
    I've owned Turner DW bikes (5-spot, Sultan, and Czar) and like the DW design for the same reasons you mentioned. Last summer I switched to a Mayhem without being able to demo and I am quite pleased running it with a 140.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Getting pretty close to pulling the trigger on a Mayhem. Unfortunately, like most, I'm not going to have a opportunity to demo one before I buy. Any input how Living Link compares to DW link, VPP or Switch Infinity? I've owned a couple of Ibis DW link bikes (Ripley and Mojo SL) and it is, by far, my favorite suspension design. Love how it sits high in the travel, doesn't wallow on the climbs and still is poppy on the downs. I've also owned a Santa Cruz Blur and have spent quite a bit of time on the Hightower and Hightower LT. Just not a fan. Can never get the back end to feel like I'd like. I also have some demo time on Yeti's SB 5.5 with SI, which I really liked. However, the 160/140 travel is just too much for my local trails. For those that have some time on the Mayhem and experience with DW, VPP or SI bikes how'd you say they compare?
    I have had many bikes including a Tallboy 2, Mojo 3 and Following. The Spot climbs better than all of them. It's more like the Evil in chatter, but more plush and bottomless in the drops.

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    I guess Spot is kinda pushing for the full builds as opposed to the frame option. From a value prospective anyways. .At 2800 plus tax and shipping your up about 3100 in Cali. I can get into a lot of more established and highly regarded frames for about $500 less.
    Also I do not understand specing the mavic wheels and tires when there are better options. Mavic wheels have been terrible...must be cheap to spec.
    I am interested in the suspension but for direct sales the price needs to come down on the frame for those of us who build our own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    I guess Spot is kinda pushing for the full builds as opposed to the frame option. From a value prospective anyways. .At 2800 plus tax and shipping your up about 3100 in Cali. I can get into a lot of more established and highly regarded frames for about $500 less.
    Also I do not understand specing the mavic wheels and tires when there are better options. Mavic wheels have been terrible...must be cheap to spec.
    I am interested in the suspension but for direct sales the price needs to come down on the frame for those of us who build our own.
    Exactly what I was thinking regarding the frame only option....

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    I guess Spot is kinda pushing for the full builds as opposed to the frame option. From a value prospective anyways. .At 2800 plus tax and shipping your up about 3100 in Cali. I can get into a lot of more established and highly regarded frames for about $500 less.
    Also I do not understand specing the mavic wheels and tires when there are better options. Mavic wheels have been terrible...must be cheap to spec.
    I am interested in the suspension but for direct sales the price needs to come down on the frame for those of us who build our own.
    You should try asking. When I got my frame I asked if there were any promotions (it was last fall). I wasn't expecting anything but they sold me a frame for 2800 (this was when they were priced at 3200) and did 50% off shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    You should try asking. When I got my frame I asked if there were any promotions (it was last fall). I wasn't expecting anything but they sold me a frame for 2800 (this was when they were priced at 3200) and did 50% off shipping.

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    I also paid less than 3k delivered for a frame.

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    Rom3n,
    I know you have ridden a lot of the latest bikes. How is the spot compared to the Yeti 5.5? Or Hightower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    Rom3n,
    I know you have ridden a lot of the latest bikes. How is the spot compared to the Yeti 5.5? Or Hightower?
    I've demoed all of those and the Pivot 5.5, T429, Rocky Element, Trek 9.9, Spec Enduro and I thought the Mayhem was head and shoulders better. My priority was a great pedaling bike and in that arena there was no comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamper11 View Post
    I have a Rollik - but over a year in all kinds of conditions - not a sound from suspension or any other creaks for that matter

    Internal routing is all sleeved on the inside of these frames so push it in one end - comes out the other...
    Dropper is not sleeved but pull through from the front to the seat tube with no BB on to help make the bend and it's easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    You should try asking...
    ^^^ This. I mentioned earlier in this thread that I was able to pre-order mine back in December at the $2499 price and Paul knocked another $100 off since they were out of Larges (which they still are...supposedly early Feb on shipment). I think they are out of the Red in XL's as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    I guess Spot is kinda pushing for the full builds as opposed to the frame option. From a value prospective anyways. .At 2800 plus tax and shipping your up about 3100 in Cali. I can get into a lot of more established and highly regarded frames for about $500 less.
    Also I do not understand specing the mavic wheels and tires when there are better options. Mavic wheels have been terrible...must be cheap to spec.
    I am interested in the suspension but for direct sales the price needs to come down on the frame for those of us who build our own.
    Well then we guess you will lose out on a great bike.

    The Mavic wheels (carbon) are great wheels and applauded by many. Check out the reviews.

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    With regards to wheels I know Spot has recently been showing some Enves on their Instagram feed on the Mayhem. Not sure if this will be a potential option and/or this signals there are some changes coming on that front? Have to imagine (at least with Enve builds) those will be reserved for the 6 star build (maybe the 5). One option to discuss with Paul would just be substituting the Stans Arch S1 wheels on the 4 star (assuming you are going 29) and see if they would give a $ break on the 5 or 6 star build? These guys seem fairly flexible where they can be when I have talked to them

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    Yeah I would snap those arch wheels like a pretzel. I am an I9 and 32 spoke Nox Farlow or Kitsima type guy. Beefy carbon with fast engagement. Looking at the builds there is no point in a full build as I would change most everything..I rather build my own as I have for roughly 15 years. You really get to know what works that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    Yeah I would snap those arch wheels like a pretzel. I am an I9 and 32 spoke Nox Farlow or Kitsima type guy. Beefy carbon with fast engagement. Looking at the builds there is no point in a full build as I would change most everything..I rather build my own as I have for roughly 15 years. You really get to know what works that way.
    I'm with you thats why I always build frame up. You mentioned your disdain for the Mavics in your post so assumed you were looking at full builds. My intent with that statement is that you could get the cheap wheels, sell them, and build your own.

    Edit - my bad...see now that you were looking at frame only in that post. You were just calling out the Mavics as lousy wheel spec. At any rate, worth a call into Paul to see if you can get a better deal on the frame only?

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    PSA ...No affiliation just an occasional customer but Golden Bike Shop has some good deals on 1 new Mayhem and demo program bikes

    https://www.goldenbikeshop.com/sale/...t-brand-demos/

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    Thanks for the advice. Might look into pricing in a few weeks after business travel. On the Mavics yeah I had a bad experience with a set I had awhile back and swore never again. I checked the specs on the carbon and they are not impressive for my needs to narrow not much info on hubs engagement and 24 spoked...blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    Rom3n,
    I know you have ridden a lot of the latest bikes. How is the spot compared to the Yeti 5.5? Or Hightower?
    Im building it up now and plan to ride it this weekend with 140 and 150 fork. I will let you know my thoughts.

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    Current Spots on sale making room for new?

    Does anyone know if the current bikes are just sold out or if they have an update expected in the coming weeks/months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRdWarrior View Post
    Current Spots on sale making room for new?

    Does anyone know if the current bikes are just sold out or if they have an update expected in the coming weeks/months?
    I thought only Rolliks were on sale. My understanding is that the Rollik is due for a update, so the current ones are on sale. I donít think there are any changes on the Mayhem. The Larges and XL in red just sold out. New frames due next month.

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    Theyíre both great looking bikes (Rollik,Mayhem) and l must have seen a Ď16 on sale via JensonUSA or other site. Wish l had a dealer or demo in NC or near me for Iím looking heavily at the Mach 5.5 or 6 currently. Just wish Spot had a build option with the Fox 36 Factory
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRdWarrior View Post
    Theyíre both great looking bikes (Rollik,Mayhem) and l must have seen a Ď16 on sale via JensonUSA or other site. Wish l had a dealer or demo in NC or near me for Iím looking heavily at the Mach 5.5 or 6 currently. Just wish Spot had a build option with the Fox 36 Factory
    I think what you are seeing is dealers from last year discounting cause Spot has gone consumer direct for 2018. On the Fox 36 call Paul and talk to him about that option. I thought some had made that upgrade with them that went full builds. I only have a Mayhem frame on preorder so not 100% sure

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    MSH, thanks for the info! Iíll def give Paul a call and see what my options are. I was thinking they went consumer direct recently for l remember the pricing being a bit higher early last spring.

    Thanks again!

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    Has anyone played around with the red highlights on the black frame? The frame looks amazing but am thinking of how to mask the red color somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRdWarrior View Post
    Theyíre both great looking bikes (Rollik,Mayhem) and l must have seen a Ď16 on sale via JensonUSA or other site. Wish l had a dealer or demo in NC or near me for Iím looking heavily at the Mach 5.5 or 6 currently. Just wish Spot had a build option with the Fox 36 Factory
    Definitely call Paul.
    I have a Mayhem 5 Star build on order and I had them add the Fox Factory 36 to my build!!

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    Was there an up charge on price for the 36 option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roy harley View Post
    Was there an up charge on price for the 36 option?
    If I remember correctly, it is only available on the 5 & 6 star builds, because they start with the Factory Fork, and I believe it was an additional $150. You may want to verify that with somebody at Spot.

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    Ok. Yeah i had looked at other part upgrades on a 5 Star build. I asked about getting carbon wheels on the 5 Star build and I just remember it was a lot more cost effective to look at the 6 Star build than to add that option to a 5 Star build.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rlbruski View Post
    If I remember correctly, it is only available on the 5 & 6 star builds, because they start with the Factory Fork, and I believe it was an additional $150. You may want to verify that with somebody at Spot.
    Just ordered a 4 star build with the Fox 36 upgrade. It was $300 up charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Just ordered a 4 star build with the Fox 36 upgrade. It was $300 up charge.
    Can anybody comment on the Fox 34 vs the Fox 36 option? I think on the 4 star build it is only $150 more. I will be buying for my wife who is not a heavy or aggressive rider, but might be using it occasionally myself, I am 160lbs and not an especially aggressive rider either, so not sure if it would be necessary/ worth the extra weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    Can anybody comment on the Fox 34 vs the Fox 36 option? I think on the 4 star build it is only $150 more. I will be buying for my wife who is not a heavy or aggressive rider, but might be using it occasionally myself, I am 160lbs and not an especially aggressive rider either, so not sure if it would be necessary/ worth the extra weight.
    My main consideration was wanting a 140mm travel fork. Spot isn't offering the longer travel 34. As an added bonus, I get the burlier, Factory edition that allows me to run 29 or 27.5+ wheels without messing with a headset spacer. For me, the $300 upgrade was a no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COBenG View Post
    Can anybody comment on the Fox 34 vs the Fox 36 option? I think on the 4 star build it is only $150 more. I will be buying for my wife who is not a heavy or aggressive rider, but might be using it occasionally myself, I am 160lbs and not an especially aggressive rider either, so not sure if it would be necessary/ worth the extra weight.
    Go Fox 34

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Go Fox 34

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    My main consideration was wanting a 140mm travel fork. Spot isn't offering the longer travel 34. As an added bonus, I get the burlier, Factory edition that allows me to run 29 or 27.5+ wheels without messing with a headset spacer. For me, the $300 upgrade was a no brainer.
    Get the 140mm Fox air shaft. Shouldn't be 100 to install. That is assuming you get the 29er fork. Then you can run 29 or 27.5 plus Wheels as well without spacer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Get the 140mm Fox air shaft. Shouldn't be 100 to install. That is assuming you get the 29er fork. Then you can run 29 or 27.5 plus Wheels as well without spacer.

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    Yep, that is definitely an option. For me, the burlier fork and Fit vs Grip damper is worth the cash. For the OP's wife, the 34 would probably be the way to go.

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    Tell me more about this air shaft upgrade. It changes the travel from 130mm to 140mm, but what do you adjust when you swap wheels? Or do you just run it as 140mm for both wheels and don't change anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Get the 140mm Fox air shaft. Shouldn't be 100 to install. That is assuming you get the 29er fork. Then you can run 29 or 27.5 plus Wheels as well without spacer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpath View Post
    Tell me more about this air shaft upgrade. It changes the travel from 130mm to 140mm, but what do you adjust when you swap wheels? Or do you just run it as 140mm for both wheels and don't change anything?
    Yes it just is a shaft replacement that changes travel from 130 to 140. The way Spot has its 27.5 plus setup is to use a spacer under the fork tube so it raises the bottom bracket and corrects geo. Then, if you want to go 29, remove spacer. That's a pain. If you speak with the guys at Spot, they generally like the 140mm fork better. I didn't want to switch spacers, so I went the 140mm to begin with so effectively its the same as the 27.5 plus with a 130mm, but adds 10mm to the 29er fork. This raised the bottom bracket too which is a good thing for my area of riding.

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    Then what do you do with the 29er wheels? If you didn't do anything it would be like running the 29er setup with the spacer right? With a slacker HT angle and higher BB.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    Yes it just is a shaft replacement that changes travel from 130 to 140. The way Spot has its 27.5 plus setup is to use a spacer under the fork tube so it raises the bottom bracket and corrects geo. Then, if you want to go 29, remove spacer. That's a pain. If you speak with the guys at Spot, they generally like the 140mm fork better. I didn't want to switch spacers, so I went the 140mm to begin with so effectively its the same as the 27.5 plus with a 130mm, but adds 10mm to the 29er fork. This raised the bottom bracket too which is a good thing for my area of riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpath View Post
    Then what do you do with the 29er wheels? If you didn't do anything it would be like running the 29er setup with the spacer right? With a slacker HT angle and higher BB.
    In my case, I run either 29 or 27.5 plus all with the same fork. The 140mm with 29er works great and is preferred by many people.

    Do you want to run 29 or 27.5 plus?

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    Both. Just want to switch between them with minimal hassle. Like it would have been cool if the bottom spacer could separate into 2 halves so it could be removed without taking the fork and stem off.

    Currently running the 27.5+ with the 130mm and spacer.


    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    In my case, I run either 29 or 27.5 plus all with the same fork. The 140mm with 29er works great and is preferred by many people.

    Do you want to run 29 or 27.5 plus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpath View Post
    Both. Just want to switch between them with minimal hassle. Like it would have been cool if the bottom spacer could separate into 2 halves so it could be removed without taking the fork and stem off.

    Currently running the 27.5+ with the 130mm and spacer.
    Just replace the air shaft with 140mm and problems solved.

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    That's the beauty of running the 140mm fork. Pick the wheels size you want to ride that day, slap them on and go. No spacers to mess with. I already have a nice set of carbon 29er wheels, so actually ordered the 27.5+ version so I would have both wheel sets available. I expect I will run it in 29er mode most of the time, but great to have the + option for the sandy, blown out trails I frequently ride in the summer.

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    Of course the other option would be to just run 29er wheels with the 130mm and spacer. Iíd think that would give you the same geo as the 140mm fork (without the spacer) when in 29er mode. Just wouldnít have the extra travel up front.

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    Anyone with both sets of wheels ever run the 29er in front and the 27.5+ in the back? How did it work out?

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    I tried it on my Hightower it was good but with the 150 fork and the taller wheel and tire height it was a bit slack. You really had to purposely weight the front wheel into turns and ride it more aggressively. It did wonder a bit more on climbs also. I think the HA was around 66. Geo is close on the spot so I would expect it to behave similarly.

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    What stem lengths are you guys running? NSMB says the 60/760 combo works super well. I am thinking for more XC terrain to use a 80mm stem and when heading to the mountains, the standard 60mm or maybe even shorter. However that would make the the bike feel a bit short I think...

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    I am running 60/760 on my Mayhem. It fits me very well and the bike rides great!

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    Pink Bike review. Not horrible, but not glowing either. Ring true to owners?
    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/spot-mayhem-review.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Pink Bike review. Not horrible, but not glowing either. Ring true to owners?
    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/spot-mayhem-review.html
    I found that the bike is noticeably more stable with a 140 36 fork in the rough. I personally think the bike needs a 140 fork standard if you intend to use it as an all mountain bike. After riding the bike with a 140-150 36 I could not imagine going back to a 130 34. I also think the suspension design can benefit from a shock like the X2 that offers a lot of control over setup. I only have 1 ride on the X2 but I can already tell it is a noticeable upgrade over the stock shock. My personal opinion is that depending on how you intend to use this bike suspension options should be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    I found that the bike is noticeably more stable with a 140 36 fork in the rough. I personally think the bike needs a 140 fork standard if you intend to use it as an all mountain bike. After riding the bike with a 140-150 36 I could not imagine going back to a 130 34. I also think the suspension design can benefit from a shock like the X2 that offers a lot of control over setup. I only have 1 ride on the X2 but I can already tell it is a noticeable upgrade over the stock shock. My personal opinion is that depending on how you intend to use this bike suspension options should be considered.
    I agree.

    I also have a 140mm Pike and X2 on my Mayhem. Only a short ride but I can tell it's a great improvement

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    What gave me the most pause was the review of rear suspension performance. The combo of harsh bottoming and overly stiff, inactive climbing doesnít seem like a winner. Also seems contrary to reviews Iíve read elsewhere. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    What gave me the most pause was the review of rear suspension performance. The combo of harsh bottoming and overly stiff, inactive climbing doesnít seem like a winner. Also seems contrary to reviews Iíve read elsewhere. Thoughts?
    I have demoed the rollick and the Mayhem, and I really like the way the suspension system worked, but like anything else it has pros and cons. I currently ride a '16 stump jumper with FSR suspension and it rides the complete opposite of these bikes, very active and plush but wallows in the mid stroke, not as poppy, bobs when pedaling. Living link on the other hand has a super firm pedaling platform and rockets uphill, then on bigger hits the leaf spring relaxes and it feels more "plush". I love how the living link has a firm mid stroke for pumping and popping off of things. I would agree that the downside to such a firm pedaling platform is its not as active over techy climbs. Like any platform there is a give and take. I did not experience the bottoming out like the two north shore riders did but probably don't ride as aggressive or ride the same type of trails. They both did say they solved it with bigger spacers. My wife loved the mayhem 27.5+, the big tires might provide a little more traction and plush feel the the suspension lacks providing a good combo, which is what the bible of bike reviewers seemed to imply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    What gave me the most pause was the review of rear suspension performance. The combo of harsh bottoming and overly stiff, inactive climbing doesnít seem like a winner. Also seems contrary to reviews Iíve read elsewhere. Thoughts?

    The reviewer and I aren't riding the same bike at all. I've had mine since June or so and have ridden it all over Colorado, Utah and New Mexico. My main trails are chunky. Check out Nate Hills follow cam stuff on Dakota Ridge, White Ranch and Deer Creek to get an idea. I'm roughly the same size as the pinkbike guy but 20lbs heavier. I'm also a hack. I seem to pick the worst lines possible so I don't miss any rocks and I ride pretty fast(well down at least). I blow through tires, I don't trust any tires under 1000 grams.

    I'm not feeling the rear bottom out. I'm using all my travel but I never feel it bottom. I also find it stays glued to the trail, up and down. Before the Mayhem I had a HD3(float x2) and before that a Bronson(CC DBAir CS), so big travel bikes with nice shocks. The Mayhem stays on the trail much better than those two did and while I gave up about an inch of travel I don't notice it at all. I ran the DPS for about 6 months and recently got the DPX2, honestly both work great and I'm not sure if the DPX2 is worth spending the dough to upgrade.

    Unless the reviewer is doing huge drops which would bottom out anything I have no idea how we are discussing the same bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    The reviewer and I aren't riding the same bike at all. I've had mine since June or so and have ridden it all over Colorado, Utah and New Mexico. My main trails are chunky. Check out Nate Hills follow cam stuff on Dakota Ridge, White Ranch and Deer Creek to get an idea. I'm roughly the same size as the pinkbike guy but 20lbs heavier. I'm also a hack. I seem to pick the worst lines possible so I don't miss any rocks and I ride pretty fast(well down at least). I blow through tires, I don't trust any tires under 1000 grams.

    I'm not feeling the rear bottom out. I'm using all my travel but I never feel it bottom. I also find it stays glued to the trail, up and down. Before the Mayhem I had a HD3(float x2) and before that a Bronson(CC DBAir CS), so big travel bikes with nice shocks. The Mayhem stays on the trail much better than those two did and while I gave up about an inch of travel I don't notice it at all. I ran the DPS for about 6 months and recently got the DPX2, honestly both work great and I'm not sure if the DPX2 is worth spending the dough to upgrade.

    Unless the reviewer is doing huge drops which would bottom out anything I have no idea how we are discussing the same bike.
    Agreed. However I have the DPX2 and love it. Drops are plush and pedaling is second to none. Also I don't understand the tech climb part of the review. I have had many of the newest bikes and this thing motors right up anything. I ride rocky and rooty east coast stuff.

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    I think it was a good review, and agree it needs to be ridden with a 140, it just makes more sense when swapping from 27.5+ and 29er.

    for my trails and the way I ride, its the perfect bike for me, but I still wanna try a Norco Sight...
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    If Norco can figure out how to make their frames last ,I may give them as second chance.

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    Just a thought on shocks the DVO topaz may be worth a look if your craving mid stoke plushness..it has a large tunable air can that offers minimal mid stroke support.

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    After reading that review I never noticed the bottle cage mount on the bottom of the down tube..
    Speaking of cage mounts what kind of cage do you guys use to fit into the top one? I have a Lezyne side load cage but I still can't get a bottle to fit without any rubbing.

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    Specialized Zee cage, but it will only fit a standard bottle, not a large bottle. (Size L frame) I've since added another Zee cage under the DT and use the top one to carry a tool cage.

    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    After reading that review I never noticed the bottle cage mount on the bottom of the down tube..
    Speaking of cage mounts what kind of cage do you guys use to fit into the top one? I have a Lezyne side load cage but I still can't get a bottle to fit without any rubbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Speaking of cage mounts what kind of cage do you guys use to fit into the top one? I have a Lezyne side load cage but I still can't get a bottle to fit without any rubbing.
    Can't speak for it quite yet because I'm still waiting for my Large backordered frame to come in but I plan to use the same one Ibis recommended(Arundal OtherSideloader). I had them on my old Ibis Ripley & HD3. Both had tight space and the Arundels worked great. Never dropped a bottle. Anyway, I should be headed up to Golden on Monday to pick up my frame so I'll report back if it works

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    Can't speak for it quite yet because I'm still waiting for my Large backordered frame to come in but I plan to use the same one Ibis recommended(Arundal OtherSideloader). I had them on my old Ibis Ripley & HD3. Both had tight space and the Arundels worked great. Never dropped a bottle. Anyway, I should be headed up to Golden on Monday to pick up my frame so I'll report back if it works
    My large frame is supposed to arrive at Spot tomorrow and build/ship next week. Anybody else waiting?

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    Nice look forward to see your builds. How tall are you guys on the larges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    Nice look forward to see your builds. How tall are you guys on the larges?
    - My build will be a mix of old parts from my old OG Ripley (Derby/I9 wheels w/ Boostinator conversion, OG XX1 1x11 complete w/ creaky rear drl) and new stuff (MRP Ribbon Air 140, PNW Components Bachelor dropper)
    - Still can't decide on color. Will be a gametime decision once I'm at Spot HQ on Monday. Every carbon bike I've owned has been black so was thinking try something different. I've kind of gone full circle..wanted black, then red, now leaning back to just getting same old black
    - I'm 6' but all legs with 34.5" inseam

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    Nice look forward to see your builds. How tall are you guys on the larges?
    5í11". Itís the stock 4 star build with the Fox 36 upgrade. Iím plus curious, so ordered it in that flavor, but plan to run the Roval Fattie SL 29er wheels (with the boost adapters)off of my Ripley most of the time. Really looking forward to riding the red beast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpath View Post
    Specialized Zee cage, but it will only fit a standard bottle, not a large bottle. (Size L frame) I've since added another Zee cage under the DT and use the top one to carry a tool cage.
    Thanks, its going to bug me though if I need to use something from the evil empire on my bike...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    My large frame is supposed to arrive at Spot tomorrow and build/ship next week. Anybody else waiting?
    I was anxiously waiting for my large red sled, but unfortunately a multitude of unexpected expenses struck, so I had to cancel my order at the last minute. Not cancelled forever, but for now!
    By the way, if anybody with a large Mayhem needs an ultra-duty skid plate from Cytoe Industries, I have one that I ordered for the bike I was waiting for. I paid $46.00, including shipping. Will ship it anywhere in the lower 48 for $38.00. Brand new, never installed!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    - My build will be a mix of old parts from my old OG Ripley (Derby/I9 wheels w/ Boostinator conversion, OG XX1 1x11 complete w/ creaky rear drl) and new stuff (MRP Ribbon Air 140, PNW Components Bachelor dropper)
    - Still can't decide on color. Will be a gametime decision once I'm at Spot HQ on Monday. Every carbon bike I've owned has been black so was thinking try something different. I've kind of gone full circle..wanted black, then red, now leaning back to just getting same old black
    - I'm 6' but all legs with 34.5" inseam
    Sooo, what did you decide on, red or black? Was on the fence myself, but I've heard red bikes are faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Sooo, what did you decide on, red or black? Was on the fence myself, but I've heard red bikes are faster.
    Unfortunately, no decision yet! I talked to Paul this AM over chat and frames were still en route so earliest pick up is tomorrow. I'm hoping to get in there on Thursday now.

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    Well, that's a bummer. I emailed Paul on Friday and he told me the frames were in. Perhaps not? Still hoping mine gets out this week. Leaving town next Tuesday and hoping to get a shake down cruise in before I go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    Nice look forward to see your builds. How tall are you guys on the larges?
    I am about 5'9 1/2" with a 31ish" inseam and on a large. Its great because with the 150mm dropper it slams the seat to the frame. I'm running a 35mm steam on 800 enve bars.
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    I'm 5'9" with a 31" inseam as well and went medium. At first, w/steep seat tube I felt a little cramped, but it soon felt very good. Sure I could have made a large work too. FYI, if anyone needs a medium build, I'm forced to sell right now. Just listed on Pinkbike.

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    Hey guys I just saw a red Mayhem frame in Large on eBay, starting bid is 1500.

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    Have you guys been receiving your new bikes/frames?
    If so, any current ride reports/reviews?

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    Have you guys been receiving your new bikes/frames?
    If so, any current ride reports/reviews?
    Still waiting on mine.
    Honestly, itís been a bit of a sh*t show.
    Initially the bike was supposed to ship first week of February. Emailed mid week to get a status update. Was told frames werenít in yet but would be by Friday. Checked back in on Friday, frames were in and bike would ship Wednesday. Sweet!

    Hadnít heard anything by mid day Tuesday so checked in again. Was told it would be out by Friday.

    Sent emails both Thursday and Friday for a status check and got no response. At this point I was getting a little annoyed.

    Tuesday finally get a fed ex tracking number showing ď label createdĒ. By mid day Wednesday the tracking hadnít updated showing the package moving, still stuck at label created.

    By late yesterday, still hadnít heard anything from Spot so checked my account on Spotís website. It showed another (new) tracking number. That one finally updates and shows the bike has been picked up.

    Iím less irritated about the delay in shipping (stuff happens) than I am about the lack of updates/communication from Spot. I understand they are new to the direct to consumer game and I am sure they are working their asses off trying to get bikes out the door. That said, only takes a minute to drop an email keeping customers in the loop.

    Iím still excited to ride my Mayhem, but have to say the buying/delivery/customer support process leaves something to be desired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Still waiting on mine.
    Honestly, itís been a bit of a sh*t show.
    Initially the bike was supposed to ship first week of February. Emailed mid week to get a status update. Was told frames werenít in yet but would be by Friday. Checked back in on Friday, frames were in and bike would ship Wednesday. Sweet!

    Hadnít heard anything by mid day Tuesday so checked in again. Was told it would be out by Friday.

    Sent emails both Thursday and Friday for a status check and got no response. At this point I was getting a little annoyed.

    Tuesday finally get a fed ex tracking number showing ď label createdĒ. By mid day Wednesday the tracking hadnít updated showing the package moving, still stuck at label created.

    By late yesterday, still hadnít heard anything from Spot so checked my account on Spotís website. It showed another (new) tracking number. That one finally updates and shows the bike has been picked up.

    Iím less irritated about the delay in shipping (stuff happens) than I am about the lack of updates/communication from Spot. I understand they are new to the direct to consumer game and I am sure they are working their asses off trying to get bikes out the door. That said, only takes a minute to drop an email keeping customers in the loop.

    Iím still excited to ride my Mayhem, but have to say the buying/delivery/customer support process leaves something to be desired.
    Be patient. You'll be happy in the end.

    My guess is they are growing and having a hard time keeping up demand and maybe have issues with staff to keep up with everything.

    If you want a different experience get a Santa Cruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    Be patient. You'll be happy in the end.

    My guess is they are growing and having a hard time keeping up demand and maybe have issues with staff to keep up with everything.

    If you want a different experience get a Santa Cruz.

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    Yep, I agree. Clearly some growing pains.

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    If anyone is in the market for a med red Mayhem hit me up.

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    Dang I need a Large..Anyone got a large for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    Dang I need a Large..Anyone got a large for sale.
    One on ebay right now. 5 days left. Seller has perfect feedback with over 1k transactions..https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spot-Mayhem...UAAOSw5Ztagh49

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    One on ebay right now. 5 days left. Seller has perfect feedback with over 1k transactions..https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spot-Mayhem...UAAOSw5Ztagh49
    I wonder what tires/size were used to cause the tire rub issue?



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    Just a quick update on my previous post. Paul reached out to me via email to apologize for the lack of communication. He didn't make excuses, just owned the error and committed to doing better going forward. Couldn't possibly ask for more than that. Reaffirms my decision to buy from Spot. Oh, and my bike will be here Wednesday. Ready to cause some Mayhem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Just a quick update on my previous post. Paul reached out to me via email to apologize for the lack of communication. He didn't make excuses, just owned the error and committed to doing better going forward. Couldn't possibly ask for more than that. Reaffirms my decision to buy from Spot. Oh, and my bike will be here Wednesday. Ready to cause some Mayhem!
    Nice! I was able to pick mine up last Friday since I'm local. Paul had, originally, told me I could pick up my frame the Monday of last week (12th), but had to push me back a couple days as well. They are definitely doing their best. When those frames arrive I believe there is some QC that has to take place and then build up with the shocks etc. When I was in there it was definitely a massive flurry of activity, so they are all running at mach chicken. Anyway, enjoy! Looking forward to building mine up shortly as well.

    One other thing - as far as communication goes I was primarily using the chat feature on the Spot website starting around the beginning of Feb. It keeps a history once you start using it, so all your chat history is kept in tact. Paul was responding to most my questions pretty quickly.

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    Ordered mine Wed and got an email Friday it was ready. Spot guys have been awesome answering questions through the whole process.

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    Ordered mine Wed and got an email Friday it was ready. Spot guys have been awesome answering questions through the whole process.

    That's good to hear. Sounds like they must be clearing their backlogged orders.

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    Anyone running a Vorsprung Corset with their Fox shock on their Mayhem?

    - The corset helps simulate a coil spring - for initial and mid stroke, wasn't sure if the living link would mitigate the effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swagner2 View Post
    Anyone running a Vorsprung Corset with their Fox shock on their Mayhem?

    - The corset helps simulate a coil spring - for initial and mid stroke, wasn't sure if the living link would mitigate the effect?
    Best to call Steve or at Vorsprung on this. He will tell you yes or no.

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    Does anybody know if 2.6 tires fit on the back of the 29er?

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    According to Spot 29 2.4 is the largest in the back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fndave View Post
    Does anybody know if 2.6 tires fit on the back of the 29er?
    One of the Spot guys is running 2.6 Schwalbe front and back on his 29er. Not sure what the id of his rims are but he was telling me how much he was liking em.


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    Any idea what size frame, the XL has longer chain stays

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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    One of the Spot guys is running 2.6 Schwalbe front and back on his 29er. Not sure what the id of his rims are but he was telling me how much he was liking em.


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    Could they be 27.5x2.6? You would think that would lower the bb to much

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    Itís on a 29er. Iíve chosen a tire size and now Iím a real dick about it. He was telling me I should try em out when my dhf/dhr combo wears out.

    You should give em a call or an email. Iíll probably go by there Friday and can see what model schwalbe they are, but they are 2.6x29.


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    Quote Originally Posted by poonamibaxter View Post
    Itís on a 29er. Iíve chosen a tire size and now Iím a real dick about it. He was telling me I should try em out when my dhf/dhr combo wears out.

    You should give em a call or an email. Iíll probably go by there Friday and can see what model schwalbe they are, but they are 2.6x29.


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    I tried out an ibis 945 with a 2.6 Nobby Nic on the back of my just unboxed medium Mayhem has about 5mm clearance at the closest point ( outside corners of tread ) about 6.5 at the centre of tread. Could be a bit troublesome in the mud but fortunately thatís not very common where I typically ride. Iíll just keep the Mavic wheels that come with the bike and load them with some smaller rubber for the mud.

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    Has anyone confirmed the BB height with 27.5 x 2.8 tires? I'm 334mm on my current 27.5+ bike and wouldn't want to go any lower. Spot websites lists 338mm estimated.

    Also an earlier post someone suggested that in the smallest cog the chain is rubbing on the chainstay? True story?

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    It rubs on the chainstay protector which is quite thick. You can trim it back and add some heli-copter tape. The clearance is very tight.

    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post

    Also an earlier post someone suggested that in the smallest cog the chain is rubbing on the chainstay? True story?

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    Hmmm....almost sounds like a design flaw.

    Maybe could be overcome with a 32t chainring?

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    I know when I switched to plus tires with my big ass backcountry 450 rims the chain would rub the tire in top gear...called spot and they suggested I flip my chairing around so it offset went the other direction. It fixed my problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rom3n View Post
    If anyone is in the market for a med red Mayhem hit me up.
    PM'ed you

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    Any confirmation on BB height with plus tires?

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    Mine is set up 27.5+ with Nobby Nic/RR 2.8 and it's right at 13.1 to 13.2 inches depending on tire pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I know when I switched to plus tires with my big ass backcountry 450 rims the chain would rub the tire in top gear...called spot and they suggested I flip my chairing around so it offset went the other direction. It fixed my problem
    Was this a bike you built or built up at their factory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugaskidawg View Post
    Mine is set up 27.5+ with Nobby Nic/RR 2.8 and it's right at 13.1 to 13.2 inches depending on tire pressure
    Thanks.

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    Rekon 27.5+/2.8 = 13.25in/336mm unloaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpath View Post
    Rekon 27.5+/2.8 = 13.25in/336mm unloaded.
    Good to know. That's close to what my bike is with Rekons

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Good to know. That's close to what my bike is with Rekons
    The solution to the lower bottom bracket is just run your fork at 150mm, I have tried fox 34 at 130 and 140 mm. Then I put on an older Pike at 160 and I knew I was onto something, Finally updated to the 2018 Pike at 150mm trust me itís the sweet spot for this bike. Iím also using the new torque caps that go with the new Pike really nice. The pike is so much better in my opinion and the fox 34, you can really feel the difference in the stiffness it rides a little bit higher in itís travel. The fox 36 I imagine will be even better. The new pike is only 67g more in weight than fox 34.

    I have 2 different sets of wheels for this bike 27 5+ and 29er so it makes it really easy without having to switch anything around except for the wheels. I now donít need to worry about Pedal strikes. I also run a 175mm crank which I prefer. The bike deserves a stiff front end. Having the luxury of trying different forks I realize 150 is the perfect size. The pike is a noticeable upgrade over the fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Was this a bike you built or built up at their factory?
    I built it.

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    The tires the Spot guy is running are Nobby Nicks. He said they are supposed to be 2.6 but they measure to 2.5. You have about 3-4mm clearance on the rear with it on.


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    I changed my rear from a Rocket Ron plus to Recon plus and there is more room now...I did a nice 14 mile ride today, all nontech singletrack and I really did not like the plus set up to much..lol trails were frozen and firm. Im going to play with it for a little while longer, but will probably go back to 29er in the spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastpath View Post
    Rekon 27.5+/2.8 = 13.25in/336mm unloaded.
    By the way...is this with 130mm fork?

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    Yup, Fox 34 130mm with the 12mm spacer under the head tube. I just got
    a 140mm air shaft so I'll be able to measure with that, but I expect the BB height to drop a little bit with the 140mm without the spacer. Having 170mm cranks helps with pedal strikes.

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    By the way...is this with 130mm fork?

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    Why do you have a 12mm spacer on it?

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    All 27.5+ setups come with a 12mm spacer to correct the geometry and B.B. height.

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    Why do you have a 12mm spacer on it?

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    Anybody protecting their frame? Invisiframe doesnt make a kit for it. So how you guys protect your frame?

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    I purchased a roll of helicopter tape (either 3 or 4Ē wide) and fairly long and made my own pieces. I used paper to make a template on the frame points that I wanted to cover and then cut them out of the tape with a scalpel and put them on the bike. I am slow and methodical and it took me a couple hours. I enjoyed doing it though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu808 View Post
    Anybody protecting their frame? Invisiframe doesnt make a kit for it. So how you guys protect your frame?

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    Anyone come to this bike after another bike?

    Prior to finding this bike I kind of had my heart set on purchasing an Ibis Mojo 3 or a Hightower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvbiker View Post
    I purchased a roll of helicopter tape (either 3 or 4Ē wide) and fairly long and made my own pieces. I used paper to make a template on the frame points that I wanted to cover and then cut them out of the tape with a scalpel and put them on the bike. I am slow and methodical and it took me a couple hours. I enjoyed doing it though.
    Looks like its the only option then.Now because our bike is Matte I found Xpel makes matte finish and they sell them by roll.I was looking on amazon and all those are gloss finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Anyone come to this bike after another bike?

    Prior to finding this bike I kind of had my heart set on purchasing an Ibis Mojo 3 or a Hightower.
    I'm coming from a 2017 Mach 429 Trail which is a pretty good bike. I was dead set on Ibis Ripley ls until this bike intrigued me. What I liked about it is the steeper ST angle than my Pivot.For a Mid travel bike it also has a tad longer wheelbase than most bikes that have the same size.Frame is on the way and can't wait to put it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu808 View Post
    I'm coming from a 2017 Mach 429 Trail which is a pretty good bike. I was dead set on Ibis Ripley ls until this bike intrigued me. What I liked about it is the steeper ST angle than my Pivot.For a Mid travel bike it also has a tad longer wheelbase than most bikes that have the same size.Frame is on the way and can't wait to put it together.

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    Guess I was looking for some comparative ride reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Anyone come to this bike after another bike?

    Prior to finding this bike I kind of had my heart set on purchasing an Ibis Mojo 3 or a Hightower.
    I had a M3 before they Mayhem and could never feel comfortable on that bike. It was good all around but I felt the M3 would get hung up in technical rocky stuff. The front end felt too steep. I even tried changing the fox 34 140mm to 150mm air shaft. I spent along time tuning the suspension but just never got along with the mojo.

    The Mayhem (I had it set up with 27.5+ wheels btw) is more stiff, climbs better, and handles rough stuff way better. I have the Mayhem with a 140mm Pike. For comparison I also have a Evil Insurgent with 150mm travel. The evil doesn't climb as well but is a blast to ride downhill.

    Hope that helps. I'm not very good at bike review type of summaries.

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    SPOT Brand MAYHEM 29

    Owned lots of different bikes. Most recently an OG Ibis Ripley. The Mayhem is really in a different class of bike than the Rip, even though the suspension travel is similar. The Spot is just burlier. The frame is WAY stiffer. Holds a line in rough terrain far better, is more stable at speed and loves going fast. My Ripley was a couple pounds lighter so it might have had a slight edge going uphill.

    I have a far amount of time on the Hightower as well (both regular and LT) and just not a fan. Nice bikes for sure, but I can never get SC's version of the VPP to ride the way I'd like. To me, they feel firm off the top, mushy in the middle and harsh at bottom out. Blah. Lots of people like them though.
    I have a couple demo rides on the Mojo 3. Pretty much felt like a Ripley with smaller wheels.
    Lots of great bikes out there. The Mayhem is one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Anyone come to this bike after another bike?

    Prior to finding this bike I kind of had my heart set on purchasing an Ibis Mojo 3 or a Hightower.
    Im coming from a Hightower, I liked it but for my trails it was to much bike, mine had a 150 up front and although it descended really well,I had a tough time on the climbs on it. I demoed a M3 but I felt to big on it for some reason,maybe if I was able to change out the stem it would of been different. It is a very short feeling bike

    As for other bikes comparable to the Mayhem I think the Intense Primer comes pretty close, just looking at the geometry, but I have never ridden one.
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    Hmmmm...Some encouraging reports here on the Mayhem vs. Hightower or Mojo 3.


    Front end easy enough to lift to get over obstacles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Hmmmm...Some encouraging reports here on the Mayhem vs. Hightower or Mojo 3.


    Front end easy enough to lift to get over obstacles?
    No issues lofting the front wheel. That said, probably not as good as a bike with super short chain stays.
    My only complaint with the Mayhem is I wish the frame was lighter. At a hair over 7lbs, (large frame) it is a half to a full pound heavier than many other bikes in its class. Without bringing a wheelbarrow full of cash, it isn't easy to get it below 28lbs.
    Mine is the 4 star build with the Fox 36 140mm upgrade. I swapped the wheels for my carbon Roval Fattie's (e13 TRS front tire, Spec Purgatory rear) and installed a nice Race Face Next carbon bar. With my crank bro pedals the bike was 29.25lbs. Not bad for a burly trail bike with the 36 out front, but can't help to wish for a little less heft.
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    I would be a medium and would probably go fox 34

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Not bad for a burly trail bike with the 36 out front, but can't help to wish for a little less heft.
    Agreed, the bike is a bit heavy when you pick it up, but it doesn't ride or pedal like it weighs close to 30 lbs. IMO after a handful of longer rides here in CO, it pedals better than bikes that weigh 2-4 lbs less, and it's way burlier than any other 5" travel 29er I've been on.

    And here's a Mayhem action shot I took yesterday during an afternoon photo shoot with the guys:

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Agreed, the bike is a bit heavy when you pick it up, but it doesn't ride or pedal like it weighs close to 30 lbs. IMO after a handful of longer rides here in CO, it pedals better than bikes that weigh 2-4 lbs less, and it's way burlier than any other 5" travel 29er I've been on.

    And here's a Mayhem action shot I took yesterday during an afternoon photo shoot with the guys:

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    Yep, I agree. It definately pedals light for its weight. The Hightower I've spent time on is probably in the 28 pound range and the Mayhem is leagues better going uphill. That said, it would climb even better if it were lighter.
    The bike is really unlike anything I've ridden before. The combo of an incredibly stiff frame, very firm pedaling platform on the ups, but still smooth, compliant suspension on the down is a winner. Can't wait to get the red beast into some bigger terrain this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Agreed, the bike is a bit heavy when you pick it up, but it doesn't ride or pedal like it weighs close to 30 lbs. IMO after a handful of longer rides here in CO, it pedals better than bikes that weigh 2-4 lbs less, and it's way burlier than any other 5" travel 29er I've been on.

    And here's a Mayhem action shot I took yesterday during an afternoon photo shoot with the guys:

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    What's your bike weigh in at with the Fox 34? Medium or Large?

    I would have to assume that those of you that have mentioned the weight have aluminum rims?

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    What's your bike weigh in at with the Fox 34? Medium or Large?

    I would have to assume that those of you that have mentioned the weight have aluminum rims?
    Mine has Roval carbon wheels. The Fox 34 saves around a half a pound over the 36.

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    Mine (Large, 4 star build) was ~30.5lbs. When I upgraded to a carbon wheel set it saved ~1lb.

    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    What's your bike weigh in at with the Fox 34? Medium or Large?

    I would have to assume that those of you that have mentioned the weight have aluminum rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    What's your bike weigh in at with the Fox 34? Medium or Large?

    I would have to assume that those of you that have mentioned the weight have aluminum rims?
    I have a med with a pike 140, xx1 and carbon wheels just over 28lbs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    What's your bike weigh in at with the Fox 34? Medium or Large?

    I would have to assume that those of you that have mentioned the weight have aluminum rims?
    I don't know exactly, I don't have a scale... it's all relative compared to the other bikes (Mojo 3, Ripley LS, BMC SpeedFox) I've owned recently. My large Mayhem feels a bit heavier than the Ripley LS, maybe a pound max.

    And yes, I've got Industry Nine Enduro-S wheels on the bike, which weigh 1900g. Plus a Maxxis DHF 2.5" up front and an Onza Ibex 2.4" rear, so I could easily shed a pound on the wheels/tires alone (it came with Arch MK3 and Nobby Nic 2.35" setup, which is lighter than what I have). That said, the bike doesn't feel heavy when I'm riding it, and it absolutely rips on the descents so I'll probably just leave it as-is.

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    For those guys who got bikes with the Magic Quest Pro tires,what did you think of them? They look like they would be a fast rolling tire,and I like the fact you can run them front and rear.

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    I'm not positive, but I believe they all come with the new Schwalbe Addix 2.35" Nobby Nics... I picked mine up a couple of weeks ago and that's what came stock. I would prefer the Mavic Quest Pro, though, since it would make a solid rear tire (and I'll put a Maxxis up front anyways).

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    Anyone try the DVO Topaz rear shock on the Mayham 29er. Thinking about the Fox DPX2 or the DVO as up grade stock shock. Seams harsh, then when lowing psi becomes to saggy and I bottom out!!

    Just sent my older Onyx hubs out for upgrade to boost, for about 300 I will basically have brand new boost hubs. Will have they re-laced to my Derby hoops.

    Also upgrade brakes to Shimano XTR Trail with 203 ice tech rotors front and 180mm rear rotors. I really like the stopping power now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Anyone try the DVO Topaz rear shock on the Mayham 29er. Thinking about the Fox DPX2 or the DVO as up grade stock shock. Seams harsh, then when lowing psi becomes to saggy and I bottom out!!

    Just sent my older Onyx hubs out for upgrade to boost, for about 300 I will basically have brand new boost hubs. Will have they re-laced to my Derby hoops.

    Also upgrade brakes to Shimano XTR Trail with 203 ice tech rotors front and 180mm rear rotors. I really like the stopping power now!!
    I have the Dpx2 tuned by Dirtlabs. Made a huge difference.

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    Yea I will have Ethan at Marverick Suspension tune my DPX2 if I go with Fox. Thanks!!
    Ethan is the Man!!

    Quick note about tires, Bontrager XR4 2.4 Team Issue and now they have the 29x2.6 and 27.5x2.8 for the + size. If you can find them they are my favorite tires, sidewalls are stiff and very puncture resistant, grippy in wet roots and rocks!!

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    Continental is coming out with a new line up of tires. I have been seeing a lot of there older tires drastically reduced. The problem I read with there tires are the sizing on them is crazy depending were they are manufactured. I want to stay in the 2.35 to 2.4, Im not a fan of this big wide tires coming out now. Im not an overly aggressive rider, so I dont need tires with huge tread. Thats why I asked about the Mavic tires, but I cant find them anywhere.

    For now since the trails in my area are on the softer side im going to run my HRII front and rear.
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    Fox Dpx2 with tune on the way, canít wait!! Should have my Onyx Hubs back next week. Adding some weight but sometimes you gotta do it.

    Never had good luck with continental tires and never been on the Mavicís!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Quick note about tires, Bontrager XR4 2.4 Team Issue and now they have the 29x2.6 and 27.5x2.8 for the + size. If you can find them they are my favorite tires, sidewalls are stiff and very puncture resistant, grippy in wet roots and rocks!!
    Now do you run the XR4 front and rear? or would you put the XR3 on the rear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Now do you run the XR4 front and rear? or would you put the XR3 on the rear?
    Right now I'm running XR4 2.4x29er front and rear, but summer I do run Xr3 in rear. Great combo!

    I just installed the tuned Fox DPX2, to muddy right now to go out.

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    So what fork travel is everyone running with the 29er setup and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    So what fork travel is everyone running with the 29er setup and why?

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    I have ran mine at 130,140 and 150 travel. Bike still road well at 150 travel even up the steep climbs. The front was not as planted as it was at 130 travel but having more travel was great. I have settled in at 140 for now and will probably run it at this travel for the summer. I am running a MRP Ribbon fork so the travel change is easy to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    So what fork travel is everyone running with the 29er setup and why?

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    Did the Fox 36 140mm upgrade on mine so I could run both wheel sizes. Interestingly, I ordered the bike in 27.5+ and it also had the lower cup spacer installed. Bike rode and climbed great even with the extra slack front end. Iíve since removed the spacer, but considering bumping the front travel to 150 as there didnít seem to be any downside to the taller/slacker front.

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    I wonder if they will be releasing anything new at sea otter .

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    Doubtful with the new Rollik a month ago.

    Only change I'm aware of is new carbon rocker link for Mayhem (source: Spot Instagram Comment)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    So what fork travel is everyone running with the 29er setup and why?

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    Started with 130mm Fox 34, then 140mm Fox, them 160mm Pike with 46 offset. Now new 2018 Pike at 150mm 51mm offset. I like the lower offset, just a must more natural feel to the front end. I may go back to 160mm, I love how it stacks it out and changes the seat tube angle more to my liking. Also raises the BB to over 14inches, I just like the 175mm crank arms. Problem going to get the new 2019 Pike at 160mm with 42mm off set. I still have my seat all the way back on my large frame and I only 5'10 with short 31 inseam legs and long upper body with long arms. If I hhad normal legs I would be 6 foot. XL would not work for me.

    Just got my Onyx hubs back with Alloy xd driver and Torque caps for Pike fork, Onyx have a great upgrade program, went from no-boost to boost on 35 Derby rims. Also just had a chance to ride the Fox DPX2 shock, This is the shock that should have came stock. Better small bump sensitivity and much better progressive ramp up for big hits.

    Anti Freeze green wil be the new theme, since the had My rear Triangle painted silver to match the Spot silver a while ago. I put carbon Vinyl on the down tube, you can see a piece of the vinyl I used on the down tube just above the water bottle cage. It also protects the down tube and light in weight!!

    Re-did the chain stays protection, much better in my opinion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Started with 130mm Fox 34, then 140mm Fox, them 160mm Pike with 46 offset. Now new 2018 Pike at 150mm 51mm offset. I like the lower offset, just a must more natural feel to the front end. I may go back to 160mm, I love how it stacks it out and changes the seat tube angle more to my liking. Also raises the BB to over 14inches, I just like the 175mm crank arms. Problem going to get the new 2019 Pike at 160mm with 42mm off set. I still have my seat all the way back on my large frame and I only 5'10 with short 31 inseam legs and long upper body with long arms. If I hhad normal legs I would be 6 foot. XL would not work for me.

    Just got my Onyx hubs back with Alloy xd driver and Torque caps for Pike fork, Onyx have a great upgrade program, went from no-boost to boost on 35 Derby rims. Also just had a chance to ride the Fox DPX2 shock, This is the shock that should have came stock. Better small bump sensitivity and much better progressive ramp up for big hits.

    Anti Freeze green wil be the new theme, since the had My rear Triangle painted silver to match the Spot silver a while ago. I put carbon Vinyl on the down tube, you can see a piece of the vinyl I used on the down tube just above the water bottle cage. It also protects the down tube and light in weight!!

    Re-did the chain stays protection, much better in my opinion!
    Very nice! Howíd you get the stem and chain ring to match the Onyx antifreeze hubs? I had some of those built to Nox rims a while back and they were awesome. Looking forward to seeing the bike built up.

    Iím thinking of getting a Mayhem and selling my pivot 5.5 but not sure of the frame color to choose. Like what youíre doing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wooly88 View Post
    Very nice! Howíd you get the stem and chain ring to match the Onyx antifreeze hubs? I had some of those built to Nox rims a while back and they were awesome. Looking forward to seeing the bike built up.

    Iím thinking of getting a Mayhem and selling my pivot 5.5 but not sure of the frame color to choose. Like what youíre doing!!
    Not a perfect match, The anti freeze color is a translucent paint, stem and ring are Anodized off-the-shelf components. No other hub on the planet pops like the anti-freeze and almost glows in the dark. Only drawback is they are heavy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmo View Post
    I sold my Mojo3 and replaced it with a mayhem with 27.5x2.8 wheels. It is much better IMO. Stiffer, climbs better, better trail manners and composure, more stable at speed. A bit longer front center maybe. Let me know if you have specific questions

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    Hey DMO. I actually have a small Mojo 3 and was thinking of moving to a Mayhem 29. The Mojo always felt a tad small and not as stable as I would like - how would you compare the fit between the two? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imasavagemonkey View Post
    Hey DMO. I actually have a small Mojo 3 and was thinking of moving to a Mayhem 29. The Mojo always felt a tad small and not as stable as I would like - how would you compare the fit between the two? Thanks!
    I got a medium Mayhem. It's more stretched out with longer reach. I put on a 40mm stem with some spacers under the stem. It feels more stable that way. If I need to get back I just use the dropper post and have no issues. I'll see if I have any old pics for comparing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imasavagemonkey View Post
    Hey DMO. I actually have a small Mojo 3 and was thinking of moving to a Mayhem 29. The Mojo always felt a tad small and not as stable as I would like - how would you compare the fit between the two? Thanks!
    I had a M3 too. Went small in each but went through an extensive fitting recently. Ended up putting a 66mm stem on and the seat slightly back to get angles and back position correct. Also lowered bars to get stack down. According to the fitter, I am proportional as a 5-2 should be, if that helps.

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    So I bought myself a eagle drive train, am I going to need any spacers on my bottom bracket or Raceface next crank to get it to shift properly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    So I bought myself a eagle drive train, am I going to need any spacers on my bottom bracket or Raceface next crank to get it to shift properly?
    I have eagle drivetrain too but my cranks are sram gxp.I didnt need spacers since the BB spacing is 73mm. hope that helps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu808 View Post
    I have eagle drivetrain too but my cranks are sram gxp.I didnt need spacers since the BB spacing is 73mm. hope that helps.


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    Thanks, The only reason I asked is two of my friends just bought Mojo 3's and they have one spacer on each side of there Bottom Bracket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Thanks, The only reason I asked is two of my friends just bought Mojo 3's and they have one spacer on each side of there Bottom Bracket.
    The mojo 3 is a 68mm bottom bracket. Hence the two spacers needed for a GXP bottom bracket.
    You will need one spacer under the drive side cup of your race face bottom bracket on your Mayhem to fit the race face next cranks.


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    I saw on Spot's Instagram feed there will be a carbon rocker arm available for the Mayhem. Anybody get one yet? Price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    I saw on Spot's Instagram feed there will be a carbon rocker arm available for the Mayhem. Anybody get one yet? Price?
    A few weeks from now

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogeydog View Post
    A few weeks from now

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    Any word on what it will cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripn View Post
    Any word on what it will cost?
    No. Just that is may be a little stiffer and 28g less in weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Started with 130mm Fox 34, then 140mm Fox, them 160mm Pike with 46 offset. Now new 2018 Pike at 150mm 51mm offset. I like the lower offset, just a must more natural feel to the front end. I may go back to 160mm, I love how it stacks it out and changes the seat tube angle more to my liking. Also raises the BB to over 14inches, I just like the 175mm crank arms. Problem going to get the new 2019 Pike at 160mm with 42mm off set. I still have my seat all the way back on my large frame and I only 5'10 with short 31 inseam legs and long upper body with long arms. If I hhad normal legs I would be 6 foot. XL would not work for me.

    Just got my Onyx hubs back with Alloy xd driver and Torque caps for Pike fork, Onyx have a great upgrade program, went from no-boost to boost on 35 Derby rims. Also just had a chance to ride the Fox DPX2 shock, This is the shock that should have came stock. Better small bump sensitivity and much better progressive ramp up for big hits.

    Anti Freeze green wil be the new theme, since the had My rear Triangle painted silver to match the Spot silver a while ago. I put carbon Vinyl on the down tube, you can see a piece of the vinyl I used on the down tube just above the water bottle cage. It also protects the down tube and light in weight!!

    Re-did the chain stays protection, much better in my opinion!
    OT, but did you order the frame with silver highlights instead of the red? Or is that some wrap of some sort? Looks nice!

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    Anyone try running 29x2.6 Rekons in their Mayhem or know if they will fit? I have some 29x2.4 Martellos now and it looks like there would be plenty of room for a 2.6. Maxxis tends to run small anyway.
    Thanks

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    Posting here before I post elsewhere.

    I have a Mayhem Size Large Black for sale.
    Own a shop and built it up as my dream bike, but with the transition from LBS to CD I need to replace the bike with something I sell. Really wish I didn't have too as these absolutely rip, it doesn't make sense for me to keep though. PM me for pictures and price.

    Open to Frame only or full build.
    Mayhem Build as follows:


    MRP Ribbon Air 140mm
    Ibis I9 935 Carbon Wheels
    E*13 Cassette 9-44
    XT shifter and Derailleur
    XT Brakes 180mm Front, 160 rear
    Saddle (I plan to keep mine but will install a brand new one)
    Grips (Everyone likes fresh ones so Iíll replace with new)
    Cane Creek 110 Headset
    Minion DHF Front tire, Minion SS Rear
    Raceface Cockpit:
    ó SIXC Bars 35mm
    ó Turbine Stem
    ó Turbine Dropper Post and remote
    EDC Tool installed in Steerer tube.


    Currently I have a Raceface Power meter paired with Raceface cranks. Iím willing to swap those out and knock down the price a bit if buyer would prefer that.

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    Has any current owner of the Mayhem had a chance to ride the new ibis ripmo yet? Just wanted to hear how they compare.
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    I know the Rollik was just updated so the Mayhem is only going to have the updated rocker arm and updated components? Iím guessing weíll all know more after Sea Otter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRdWarrior View Post
    I know the Rollik was just updated so the Mayhem is only going to have the updated rocker arm and updated components? Iím guessing weíll all know more after Sea Otter.
    I believe the Rollik 557 was released in early 2016, so it gets the major update here in 2018. Since the Mayhem was released in early 2017 I would suspect that it won't get a major update until early next year if they follow the same cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    I believe the Rollik 557 was released in early 2016, so it gets the major update here in 2018. Since the Mayhem was released in early 2017 I would suspect that it won't get a major update until early next year if they follow the same cycle.
    That would make sense. Iím here in Nc and want to ride a Rollik to compare with a new Mach 6 and not sure what lm going to do except get to a Pivot demo all . Just wish that new Rollik came in all black (no red). I culd just buy a Santa Cruz or other common brand bike ďoff the shelfĒ at a LBS. but not sure l would be happy.

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    Not sure if this was a Mayhem or Rollik, but either way it won't make you all warm and fuzzy....... impatient viewers can skip to 7:25

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw5QQyJSyso&t=1s

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Bone View Post
    Not sure if this was a Mayhem or Rollik, but either way it won't make you all warm and fuzzy....... impatient viewers can skip to 7:25

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw5QQyJSyso&t=1s
    Thatís really scary, how do I know itís not gonna happen to my bike? It was definitely the Mayham 29er.

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    Are you sure it wasn't a Rollik 607? None of the Mayhem builds come with DPX2s.

    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Thatís really scary, how do I know itís not gonna happen to my bike? It was definitely the Mayham 29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Bone View Post
    Not sure if this was a Mayhem or Rollik, but either way it won't make you all warm and fuzzy....... impatient viewers can skip to 7:25

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw5QQyJSyso&t=1s
    I asked Alex on the first video if they are spot and they are indeed.But I forgot to asked which model they are.After looking closely at the 2 videos he posted they are Mayhems but the Alex was on is 607

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    As far as l know after talking to Spot about a week ago was the Rollik 607 is the only one coming with the DPx2. Iím thinking the others riding the Spot may have been a little more precautious after witnessing his crash.

    I havent seen any updates on the Mayhem but l think the rear triangle changed but not sure bout the components.

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    And holy s#!t it broke right at the textreme logo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu808 View Post
    And holy s#!t it broke right at the textreme logo

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    Yes youíre right it does look like the New Rollik 607, It has the carbon rocker and DXP2 shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRdWarrior View Post
    As far as l know after talking to Spot about a week ago was the Rollik 607 is the only one coming with the DPx2. Iím thinking the others riding the Spot may have been a little more precautious after witnessing his crash.

    I havent seen any updates on the Mayhem but l think the rear triangle changed but not sure bout the components.
    Why do you think the rear triangle changed?

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    I honestly canít remember if l read that or the guys at Spot mentioned that. It could have been just the upper link now that itís carbon and retrofittbale on past Rolliks. I would anticipate at least some component refresh but not sure after checking on their site.

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    Holy cow that was a epic crash..his bars even broke....only thing I did not understand is how come he did not swap out his pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    Holy cow that was a epic crash..his bars even broke....only thing I did not understand is how come he did not swap out his pedals.
    I just ordered the carbon rocker from my mayhem 29, just received shipping information today. When I disassemble everything I will make sure to examine and check for any stress cracks, I just examined that area everything feels very solid no visible cracks seen at this point. I also have the DXP2 shock I recently added. Iíll give Spot a call tomorrow just to find out if thereís any information that I should be aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I just ordered the carbon rocker from my mayhem 29, just received shipping information today. When I disassemble everything I will make sure to examine and check for any stress cracks, I just examine that area everything feels very solid no visible cracks seen at this point. I also have the DXP2 shock I recently added. Iíll give Spot a call tomorrow just to find out if thereís any information that I should be aware of.
    wait what they already available?? how much is it??

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    150.00, it's under small parts!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    150.00, it's under small parts!!
    Thanks and keep us updated when u have it installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Bone View Post
    Not sure if this was a Mayhem or Rollik, but either way it won't make you all warm and fuzzy....... impatient viewers can skip to 7:25

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw5QQyJSyso&t=1s
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    Andrew Lumpkin from Spot here.

    First of all, weíre grateful that Alex is okay. Rider safety is our utmost concern and whenever anyone crashes, regardless of cause, it makes us all pause and hope that the rider is healthy.

    Regarding the break, we are currently investigating all possibilities of causality, which are manifold. We became aware of the situation on the same day of the crash. We take these situations extremely seriously so we called Alex and Steve immediately, even though we were very busy at Sea Otter. Alex gave us limited information so that he could protect his story and his sensational reveal.

    All of our bikes are tested to exceed ISO standards, EN standards and, in addition, meet our stringent in-house standards. Relating to this break, we test our frames to failure in a machine that puts over 3,000 lbf vertical force through the bottom bracket while allowing the axles to move in any directionóitís designed to replicate the worst-case huck-to-flat scenario. In addition to testing all of our frames to optimize structure, and ultimately, failure mode, we test many competitorsí frames in the same ASTM intended use levels to ensure that we exceed their results. Yes, we buy premium carbon frames (many brands mentioned in this thread) at retail and destroy them to study the results and better our frames. Itís an expensive exercise that is well worth the cost.

    In our initial analysis, one issue is apparentóthe shock was grossly under-pressured and the compression under-damped. It should have had approximately 60psi (33%) more pressure in the shock! Although it had been reported that he hadnít been bottoming out, many frames in the footage show that the o-ring was off or at least at the end of its travel. Only yesterday were we privy to this additional evidence. Itís up to the rider to notice and remedy such a setup issue. Alexís intuition was that something was wrong, but he continued to send it.

    The purpose of a spring-damper unit is to absorb the energy from the trail or the rider when riding in uneven terrain. If the spring-damper unit is under-inflated and under-damped, it prevents the spring damper unit from absorbing enough of the energy to protect the frame. With this inadequate setup/trail conditions, if you repeatedly deliver a high spike load to the frame, it will likely fail. We hereby explicitly state that if you ride any of our bikes with such inadequate setup, sooner or later expect the same result. Ask any other manufacturer/expert in the field, and they will tell you EXACTLY THE SAME THING. If the frame is not protected from severe bottom-out events, all bets are offóTHE FRAME WILL FAIL EVENTUALLY. Have we had a few broken frames since we started selling them two years ago? Of course. Who hasnít? Thereís nothing new here; this is basic physics. There is nothing inferior about our frames.

    Then thereís the next factor: the [at least] three crashes on rocky terrain. As we all learned with the famous Minnaar crash last year, crazy things happen in crashes, even to downhill bikes. To define this bike as brand new is misleading due to these crashes and entirely inadequate air pressure and damping setup with the severe riding conditions.

    Riding aggressive trails aggressively requires suspension adjustments to protect yourself and your equipment. One very important lesson thatís apparent is to always inspect your bike (frame and components) thoroughly, especially when you suspect that something is wrong. This final crash was avoidable. Again, we are extremely grateful that Alex is okay. We will report back when our investigation is complete.

    -Andrew
    Can't say the response makes me more of a fan. Granted the first crackly sound in the video should have warranted a stop and check of the bike by the rider.

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